Well, it looks like FS or the JAWS teams have more fixing to do. Earlier versions of JAWS (like 5x) do not appear to have such problems with the site. Current versions of Window-Eyes don't have a problem here either. Perhaps I ought to point out that it was the NY Times who gave out the notice to another blind person who had emailed them about the problem, and who subsequently forwarded it to a list, from where I got it and tried out its suggested first remedy. Admittedly, I'm not a 'regular' visitor to or reader of the NY Times; but I read a couple of articles and navigated successfully around on that occasion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie Montanez" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:39 PM Subject: Re: I.E. errors when accessing NY Times site Hi Flor Lynch and Listers, I changed the Style Sheet Processing to Ignore all and to top level style sheets and it still didn't work. I also went to the options of Internet Explorer and then into accessibility and checked the following: Ignore colors specified on Web pages, Ignore font styles specified on Web pages, and that also didn't work. Not sure what else to do. Very weird what is going on. Anyway, thanks to you and all of the other people who responded to my message! Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:26 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] I.E. errors when accessing NY Times site the following JAWS Technical Support Notice, from Freedom Scientifics' site, which does apply here, was posted to another list. It seems to offer a solution which works. responding (crashes). Problem: While using JAWS to read Web pages with cascading style sheets (CSS) in Internet Explorer, one of the following occurs: * The browser stops responding (crashes) * The page unloads * JAWS does not read all text that is visible on the screen These problems are often caused by imported cascading style sheets. The page's style sheet may also cause certain text or information to be unavailable to JAWS. Usually this occurs because the page displays text or other elements at some point after the page loads. Solution: JAWS 6.10 allows you to control how style sheets are processed. Do the following if you experience problems with a particular Web site: 1. In Internet Explorer, press INSERT+V. 2. Use the arrow keys to select "Style Sheet Processing." 3. Press the SPACEBAR to choose "Top Level Style Sheets." 4. Go to the Web page where you were experiencing problems. If the page is working correctly with JAWS, you can press INSERT+SHIFT+V and change the Style Sheet Processing option to "Top Level Style Sheets" as well. This applies the new setting to all pages in the Web site domain. The setting is saved so you do not have to change it each time you visit the Web site. 5. If the page still does not read correctly, press INSERT+V, select "Style Sheet Processing," and press the SPACEBAR until you choose "Ignore All." Return to Web site again and attempt to read the content. The "Ignore All" setting suppresses all style sheet information, so certain text attributes, layout information, and other details may be unavailable. If this setting allows you to read the page correctly, you can press INSERT+SHIFT+V to save it as described in step 4. ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rachel" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:19 PM Subject: I.E. errors when accessing NY Times site Someone posted to the list recently that they were getting errors from within I.E. when accessing links from the New York Times daily newsletter. I get this newsletter, too, but haven't accessed any links from it in a while. I do, though, sometimes get links to stories on the Times's Web site from a friend that I usually just access by clicking on the link in the e-mail. I just got one of these messages and wanted to read the story; but after bringing up at least part of the page, presumably containing the story, I got an error from I.E. and had to close it. I noticed, just before I got the error, that there was what appeared to be an ad on the page that I'd never seen there before. I tried repeatedly to access the story but couldn't. I'm wondering if the Times has done something to their site recently that may not work well with JAWS. (I'm using v6.10.) This happened once before with Citibank's site, and the solution, until things were fixed, was to temporarily close JAWS until you got past a certain screen. I don't know if this is what's going on with the Times site, but it might be. 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