Brother Salieu

Thanks for yourgood  input . This reminds me of two sisters ( Amina and Pamela -both American muslimas ) who choose to lead jummah prayers here in the US and in Canada with mixed worshipers. They mis interpreted the hadith ( not even the Quran)that Um warakha to lead prayers in HER HOME leading only her family -sisters only- while the prophet was at the masjid on friday.

Such interpretations can lead to innovations and bidah can lead to more divisions in our deen. EG Visiting the graves and praying for the dead was done by our beloved prophet but yet you have some salafis who forbade what the final prophet of Islam did- making their own man made laws and call it Islamic just like those misguided sisters who went astray with one weak hadith.

the issue of four wives is also very delicate yet as you say it is better to marry another than commit adultery , I agree but it becomes a catch 22 because in Islam we also have to abide by the law of the land we dwell. May God help us do waht is best .

bottom line thanks, Salieu for the quotes of the Imam of mecca on  Islam. There are different interpretations which are simply becoming controversial because some of us  blindly follow our imams that is why we must be careful not to accept any thing that is not the exact words of the Quran .Yes we also have the sunnah and hadiths but we must studythem and use our  judgement. Allah knows best and may we be gauided to the right path.

Habib




>From: Sal Barry <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Question - Islam, Slavery
>Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 19:36:51 +0000
>
>Abdou wrote:
>
>“Slavery is one thing (of the past) but what about today's horrible
>gender
>inequality that is widely accepted - I'm thinking of the 4+ wives
>that a
>Muslim male can marry if he can provide (?) for all of them, the
>inheritance
>laws that does not favour women, the general acceptance of the
>superiority
>of man over woman, etc.
>
>This statement above is very sad and dangerous.  By uttering this
>statement,
>one is stripping Allaah  (the One free from imperfections) of His
>perfection
>and far removed is He from that. The One who is the All-Seer and
>All-Knower
>is being stripped of these attributes He Himself described Himself
>with.
>
>Allaah, the One who create the Heavens and the Earth in His Infinite
>wisdom
>said Muslim men can marry up to four wives, then who are we His
>creation to
>question that? Do we even know the wisdom behind this before we
>raise any
>objection(s). Here we are relying on our intellect as oppose to the
>text of
>the noble Qu’ran.
>
>Allah Says:
>Whoever contradicts and opposes the messenger (Muhammad sallallaahu
>alaihi
>was sallam) after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and
>follows
>other than the  believers’ way. We shall keep him in the path he has
>chosen,
>and burn him in hell, and what an evil destination. [Al-Quraan
>4:115]
>
>Allah also Says:
>Had We sent down this Quran on a mountain, you would surely have
>seen it
>humbling itself and rending asunder by the fear of Allah. Such are
>the
>parables which We put forward to mankind that they may reflect.
>(59:21)
>
>For those of us in most western countries, If we were to marry more
>than one
>wife at the same time, we will be prosecuted by the laws of these
>lands no
>doubt. Yet if we married one wife but fornicated with other women
>the
>authorities will have no business with us because we are not
>breaking the
>laws. How twisted is this logic.
>
>“the inheritance laws that does not favour women,”
>
>According to who? Do we know the wisdom behind the laws of
>inheritance? Here
>we are accusing  Allaah, the One free from imperfection of being
>unjust –
>refuge is sought from this. One of the attributes Allaah described
>Himself
>with is The Just (Al-Adl). Who is more Just than Allaah the One who
>will
>judge our affairs on the day of judgement?
>
>
>the general acceptance of the superiority of man over woman, etc”  
>Please
>refer to What Allaah says about man and woman in His book.
>
>“I know that I'm straying; my point is that the Koran is ripe for
>revision”
>
>Unlike the US constitution and all the other man-made constitutions
>that
>needs revisions from time to time due to changing times and the
>deficiencies
>of human beings, the Book of Allaah is for all times.
>
>Our practice and understanding of Islam is different from the Islam
>the
>Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi was sallam) brought. We (general) have
>strayed
>from our religion so we find ourselves adopting anything out there
>thinking
>it will correct our situation as oppose to returning back to correct
>path.
>
>“For each (person), there are angels in succession, before and
>behind him.[]
>They guard him by the command of Allah. Verily Allah will not change
>the
>good condition of a people as long as they do not change their state
>of
>goodness themselves (by committing sins and by being ungrateful and
>disobedient to Allah). But when Allah wills a people’s punishment,
>there can
>be no turning back of it, and they will find besides Him no
>protector [Ra'd
>13:11]
>
>Success lies with Allaah. I seek Allah's forgiveness if I have
>mispoken.
>
>Salieu
>
>
>
>For our benefit, see some of the things that can nullify our Islam
>below.
>Ten Things Which Nullify One's Islam
>
>By Shaikh Abdul Aziz ibn Abdullah ibn Baz
>
>All praise is due to Allah, Lord of the worlds. May peace and
>salutations be
>upon the Last Messenger of Allah, and upon all those who follow him
>until
>the Last day.
>
>To proceed: Brother and Sister Muslim, you must be aware that there
>are
>matters which nullify your Islam. Please be mindful of them.
>
>1. Associating partners with Allah (shirk). Allah Most High says (in
>the
>meaning):
>
>"Truly, whosoever sets up partners with Allah, then Allah has
>forbidden the
>Garden for him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the
>wrongdoers there
>are no helpers." (Soorah Al-Maa'ida 5:72)
>
>Calling upon the dead, asking their help, or offering them gifts or
>sacrifices are all forms of shirk.
>
>2. Setting up intermediaries between oneself and Allah, making
>supplication
>to them, asking their intercession with Allah, and placing ones
>trust in
>them is unbelief (kufr).
>
>3. Anyone who does not consider the polytheists (mushrikeen) to be
>unbelievers, or who has doubts concerning their unbelief, or
>considers their
>way to be correct, is himself/herself an unbeliever (kafir).
>
>4. Anyone who believes any guidance to be more perfect, or a
>decision other
>than the Prophets decision to be better, is an unbeliever. This
>applies to
>those who prefer the rule of Evil (Taghout) to the Prophets rule.
>Some
>examples of this are:
>
>(a) To believe that systems and laws made by human beings are better
>than
>the Shariah of Islam; for example,
>
>That the Islamic system is not suitable for the twentieth century.
>That Islam is the cause of the backwardness of the Muslims.
>Or that al-Islam is a relationship beween Allah and the Muslim. It
>should
>not interfere in other aspects of life.
>(b)To say that enforcing the punishments prescribed Allah, such as
>cutting
>of the hand of the thief or the stoning of an adulterer, is not
>suitable for
>this day and age.
>
>(c) To believe that it is permissible to give a rule from that which
>Allah
>did not reveal in Islamic transactions or matters of law,
>punishments or
>other affairs. Although one may not believe such things to be
>superior to
>the Shari'ah he in effect affirms such a stand by declaring a thing
>which
>Allah has totally prohibited, such as adultery, drinking alcohol or
>usury,
>to be permissible. According to the consensus of the Muslims, one
>who
>declares such things to be permissible is an unbeliever (Kafir)
>
>5. Anyone who hates any part of what the Messenger of Allah [saw]
>has
>declared to be lawful has nullified his Islam, even though he may
>act in
>accordance with it. Allah Most High says(in the meaning):
>
>"This is because they hate what Allah has sent down, so he has made
>their
>deeds fruitless" (Soorah Muhammad 47:9)
>
>6. Anyone who ridicules any aspect of the religion of the Messenger
>of Allah
>[saw], or any of its rewards or punishments, becomes an unbeliever.
>Allah
>Most High says (in the meaning):
>
>"Say: Was it Allah, and His signs and His Messenger that you were
>mocking?
>Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed."
>(Soorah
>At-Tawbah 9:65-66)
>
>7. The practice of magic. Included in this, for example, is causing
>a rift
>between a husband and wife by turning his love for her into hatred,
>or
>tempting a person to do things he dislikes using black arts. One who
>engages
>in such a thing or is pleased with it is outside the fold of Islam.
>Allah
>Most High says (in the meaning):
>
>"But neither of these two (angels, Harut and Marut) taught anyone
>(magic)
>till they had said, Indeed, we are a trial; then do not disbelieve."
>(Soorah
>Al-Baqarah 2:102)
>
>8. Supporting and aiding polytheists against the Muslims. Allah Most
>High
>says (in the meaning):
>
>"Whoever among you who takes them as allies is surely one of them.
>Truly,
>Allah does not guide the wrongdoers." (Soorah Al-Maaida 5:51)
>
>9. Anyone who believes that some people are permitted to deviate
>from the
>Shariah of Muhammad [saw] is an un believer by the word of Allah
>Most High
>(in the meaning):
>
>"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be
>accepted of
>him, and in the hereafter he will be from among the losers." (Soorah
>Aal-Imraan 3:85)
>
>10. To turn completely away from the religion of Allah neither
>learning its
>precepts nor acting upon it. Allah most high says (what means):
>
>"And who does greater wrong than he who is reminded of the
>revelations of
>his Lord and turns aside therefrom. Truly, We shall exact
>retribution from
>the guilty." (Soorah As-Sajdah 32:22)
>
>and He [Subhaanahu wa Ta'ala] also says (what means):
>
>"But those who disbelieve turn away from that about which they are
>warned."
>
>It makes no difference whether such violations are committed as a
>joke, in
>seriousness or out of fear, except when done under compulsion (i.e.
>from
>threat of loss of life). We seek refuge in Allah from such deeds as
>entail
>His wrath and severe punishment.
>
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