Kerri, I know how humiliating it can be when you are looking for work. I have been turned down many times because of my disability. They even told me that was why I did not get the job. Keep the faith and try not to get discouraged. Huggs and blessings. Virgie At 01:49 AM 7/3/2005, you wrote: >bergie et al, I have never worked but have sought it in so many places, I >could write a novel. I've taken employment seeking and assistance courses >for people with disabilities, been subjected to degrading psychological >vocational assessments, but all to no avail. I've even tried volunteer work >seeking and nothing. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:22 PM >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse > > >Kerri, >I know what you mean. >I get frustrated with work sometimes and I think I would like to be >unemployed. >When I have a few days off, I realize I could not stand not working. >What kind of work have you done in the past? >Praying for you. >Huggs, Virgie At 01:42 PM 7/2/2005, you wrote: > > >Yes doing really well Bergie though getting tired of not working. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > >Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 4:06 AM > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse > > > > > >Kerri, > >Thanks. > >Hope you are doing well. > >Virgie At 09:56 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: > > > > >I think personally you did fine, Bergie and besides you ca't rectify it > > >now > > >and God knows yoru intent. > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > > >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:20 PM > > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse > > > > > > > > >Keri, > > >I was very young and very shy and scared. > > >I did tell him that it was not time for me to be healed. > > >I wanted to say to him that Jesus could heal me without his help, but I > > >was > > >afraid of getting a whipping when I got home. > > >I hope I did not misjudge that preacher. > > >Virgie At 01:46 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > >Wow Bergie, that preacher soounded awful and he wanted credit,instead > > > >of > > > >glorifying the lord. Whenever people ask if I believe in healing my > > > >answer > > > >is yes but I don't require it. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]> > > > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > > > >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:52 AM > > > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse > > > > > > > > > > > >Kerri, > > > >When I was a young girl, my step mother took me to a preacher who was > > > >said > > > >to have healing power through the Lord. > > > >First, he put his hand on my head so hard that it hurt. > > > >He kept pushing on my head until I thought I was going to fall. > > > >He asked if I had faith in God, and did I think he could heal me. > > > >I answered yes, I do have faith and I believe that Jesus could heal me. > > > >He prayed, it seemed to me quite a long time. > > > >He asked me can you see now? > > > >I said yes, but no better than I could before you prayed. > > > >He told me that it was my fault that I didn't get healed because I did > > > >not > > > >have the faith. > > > >I answered, that I did have faith, but that I did not think it was the > > > >time > > > >that Jesus Christ had chosen for me to see. > > > >I said that when it is time for me to be healed, Jesus will do it. > > > >What his comments did to me was to make me doubt my faith. > > > >It made me think for a while that it was my fault that I was not > > > >healed. > > > >I have prayed about this and have discovered that it was not my fault. > > > >I really believe that this preacher was looking for credit and glory > > > >for > > > >himself. > > > >I pray that Jesus will forgive me if I am wrong about that. > > > >I also pray that he will reveal the truth to me about this man if I am > > > >wrong. > > > >I know we are not suppose to judge others, and I try not to do that. > > > >I do not believe that it was abuse though. > > > >My step mother wanted to help me because she loved me. > > > >I can understand how you are feeling and why you feel that way. > > > >Please share with us any time. > > > >You will not be chastised here for your feelings and concerns. > > > >Huggs and blessings. > > > >Yours in Christ > > > >Virgie At 01:39 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Hello all. Is there usch a thing as spiritual abuse? I as this > > > > >because > > > > >an > > > > >issue occured when a child that I call abuse and wanted yor opinion > > > > >on > > > > >it. > > > > > My parents took me at a very young age to a healer probably in > > > > > 1979 > > > > > or > > > > >early eighties because they thought I was going to die of my bone > > > > >disease. > > > > >This man they told them, had the gift of discernment and that God > > > > >revealed > > > > >things about the people he prayed for. This man asked me if I had > > > > >spirits > > > > >in > > > > >me like spirits of anger or spirits of doubt. Now mind you I was > > > > >saved > > > > >by > > > > >the time I was 5 years old. He then plunked his hand on my head and > > > > >started > > > > >chanting leave leave to these spirits. I remember feeling really > > > > >nervous > > > > >but > > > > >said nohting thinking my parents knew best. the man also said maybe > > > > >I'd > > > > >see > > > > >soon which never happened. Well time passed, and what happened was > > > > >that > > > > >people ignored me a lot, I'd get rejected often, never had friends > > > > >and > > > > >then > > > > >couldn't find work. Last December, I was wondering why I never could > > > > >trust > > > > >God propperly, as I have a great relationship with my dad, when the > > > > >above > > > > >scene was revealed to me. I remembered everything in total detail, > > > > >most > > > > >of > > > > >which I'd forgotten. My questions are > > > > >1. Is this or was this abuse and > > > > >2. Do you think there is any corelation between my utter inability to > > > > >find > > > > >work and people ignoring me. Now please know, I dislike healing > > > > >intesnely, > > > > >it scares me, the holy spirit in fact I find unnerving and never knew > > > > >why. > > > > >What we think happened was that I subconsciously felt that since this > > > > >guy > > > > >asked if I had all these spirits in me, the holy spirit either was no > > > > >good > > > > >or thought ill of me. to top that all off, my parents took me to > > > > >these > > > > >types of things repeatedly not knowing this isn't good for a child. I > > > > >hope > > > > >you don't think this is utter haracy, was very very nervous to reveal > > > > >this > > > > >to anyone. Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient in > > > > >trouble, > > > > >and always be prayerful. > > > > > > > > > > Romans 12:12, NLT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: > > > > >6/30/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 > > > > > > > > >-- > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 > > > > > > > > >-- > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this outgoing message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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