Lynn Tracy wrote: >if only I could find the dreaded & elusive sound card driver <Smile> I know the feeling. When a client brings me an older box and says fix it I sometimes pull out what little hair I gave trying to locate drivers. >Chips are Crystal & Opti. Crystal is one of several popular chip sets built in to boards by many manufacturers offering budget minded fare to the computing community. Not knowing the exact model or nomenclature on your chip, all I could come up with is a shotgun approach to your request. The link is a result of my "Google" search and it may help. On the other hand if you could read the chip and jot down its description, it would possibly help to zero in on the exact driver. There are times that there is no easy method to the mix. Trial and error install and uninstall until you hit upon a winner. In any case, for the life of and the duration of the unit, when you find the proper drivers for all of the components, put them on a disk for future use. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005- 06,GGLD:en&q=Crystal+sound+drivers Sincerely, Frank Suszka netTek Computers [log in to unmask] PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]>