Brad, no. It's kind of complicated. The pastor and pastor's wife are not involved except that before Gretchen came home, the women's home closed and so Gretchen and another lady moved into the pastor's house. There are some circumstances that perhaps we can share with you off list. When you go over some of these things in your mind, it is very obvious that the Lord changed Gretchen and not people. Sandy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/05