Don, I'm curious about your last paragraph. Are you refering to the (incredimail) emails accumulating or something else accumulating? I am an OE6 user & have tried to filter posts that were created using incredimail but have not been successful. So, I have to either not receive mails from that user or open with caution. I had several people that swore by incredimail but now only one person writes me ocassionaly using it. The thing that irritated me most frequently re incredimail is that it is difficult to edit if one wants to fwd the post on to others.. BTW, I use html format because some that send in plain txt are so faint that my limited vision has difficulty seeing the posts. :-( Joyonya, Bonnie Rowley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Penlington" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 9:46 AM Subject: [PCSOFT] another incredimail query Sheryl writes: <<why would PCSOFT pass along your questions or mine?>> My guess is that formatted text is converted by PCSoft to plain text before it is transmitted to readers. This is fortified by the fact that (at least on mine) these letters get somewhat garbled by the conversion and can occasionally be quite difficult to read (as you may see from the following extract). Actually, I'm surprised that any formatted emails get through at all---most forums will only accept plain text. <<none of my friends or family,=0D who do not have Incredimail, but do have Spyware to check for such proble=OD ms, have never had any problem. >> Trojans can sometimes be extremely difficult to detect, and you are usually unaware of their existence. After all, that is their sole purpose in most cases---to transmit your browsing habits to their owners. So they are by design completely unobtrusive and harmless. There has never been any suggestion that Incredimail is destructive or harmful in any way, and you will not observe any harmful effects. Except perhaps a sudden large increase in spam. And you may not even see that if your ISP has decent spam filters. Some people just don't like their computers being compromised in this way. The possibility is there for any sort of personal information to be sent out of your computer. To many others, it's of no great consequence. The situation may have changed recently, but for a long time, the owners of Incredimail would never come clean about the exact purpose of this information-gathering, simply asserting that it was benign. That may well be the case, as it is with much spyware. But it does worry a lot of people. The suspicion is always that it might be on-sold to spammers. Fair enough, if they came clean and told you that was the price of the program. The fact that is has always been so secretive cannot but make one extremely suspicious. To be fair to Incredimail, it is probably no worse than many other freeware programs which contain spyware. I use some excellent ones myself, preferring that option to paying for the stuff. But the major (there are several) objection to Incredimail is the fact that it is not just your own computer that is affected. That's the one factor that makes it different from other potential spyware. Look up Fred Langa's archives for more details on Incredimail---he did a series of articles on it about a year or more ago. You'll also find details on several web-security sites (which I don't have at my fingertips right now---a Google search should reveal them). Whenever anyone used to send me Incredimails, I frequently had to clear Eudora's "Embedded" folder of a lot of junk. Not a problem, just a nuisance. It doesn't happen any more, because my email filters are set to reject all formatted mail. I don't know how OE handles them. I suspect they just accumulate unless users know how to clear them out, which many people don't. Don Penlington --- My outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 9/22/2004 The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml