Hi all, Well, don't worry about the onlineBiblemanual.txt because I found the rtf file and converted it into a .txt document and it's on a flopy right now. If anyone else needs to do this, if you have the online Bible on your computer, just go to http://www.onlinebible.net then click on manuals then click on the version that says manual.rtf then I ran the program and extracted it and it put it in the windows\temp folder. Then, just go to run then type c:\windows\temp\manual.rtf and it will bring up the manual and just save it as a text document on to a floppy disc or onto a CD Harry who is gonna have some kind of a *COOL*! time with my .txt manual on a floppy VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. To join or leave the list, send a message to [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html