Well, Rick, something has had an effect!! I removed the battery, kept it out for 2-3 minutes and replaced it - now the fans just run for about 1 second and then they stop - New power supply is justified, I think, as suggested by Carol in a separate e-mail. I will let the list know the result Thanks John O'Regan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Dempsey #3" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] [PCBUIL] The fans are still working > okay before spending any money please do a little research and find out > where the CMOS jumper is on the motherboard. or simply remove the battery > for a few minutes and put it back in. this will reset the system's BIOS to > it's factory default state. i have had many people messing with bios > settings who came to me with their arms up "everything has power but it does > nothing". big causes of this are altered CPU/RAM timings, which will render > everything useless until they are reset. > > i've never had something wrong because it was "loose" and you seriously have > to fry a cpu before it wont work. if something has been zapped with enough > electricity it will be dead. test everything in another computer > (carefully) and try booting with different combinations of hardware (cpu + > ram only, cpu+ram+hdd, etc) > > just my 2 cents. > > PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download > visit our download web page at: > http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml