Thanks for trying Marilyn. I notice on Archive #573 posted by Ray Audette, he mentions that Voegtlin's dietary suggestions include apples, plums, peaches and apricots as the only allowed fruits. Anyone have any idea why he would not include berries??? There are certainly less carbs in berries than apples for instance. Also, aren't berries (cranberry, blues, raspberries) closer to being paleo than giant sweet apples?