I have not seen evidence strong enough that the software is good enough and stable enough. all three of the pachages that I know of have issues and they all seem to run on these high end platforms. When I find software that does what I have described for a simple cell phone, I will be happy to follow up if I am in the market for it. I am not even counting the combinations of assistive technology or devices adding assistive technology that can be interfaced with the cellular network. While I agree that there are wonders being performed, it seems we have a higher price to pay for them continually than most do. The issues will resolve themselves eventually as companies work to achieve accesibility from within and the first time a company puts out an accessible simple cell phone, that will be when it has been proven that it can be done and then action can be taken to widen the possibilities. So for now, I work with manufacturers to provide from within. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Pierce" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM Subject: Re: FW: Mobile Accessibility 2 - Released - Special Promotion till 31.12.2003 Section 255 is not enforced unless people file complaints. Have you requested from the major cell phone companies this software installed on a phone that they will provide at no additional charge? If so and they refused, have you filed complaints against each of the cell phone companies for its failure to provide access when clearly a solution is available that they could pay for and deploy that provides access and complies with the regulation? If not, why not? If you want accountability with an accessibility regulation, this is the primary means to accomplish such. Unfortunately, Section 255 does not allow one to sue so a federal court can decide if the company is ignoring the regulation and then order remedies to provide access. One can only complain to the FCC, who may do what they want with the complaint. Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:25 AM Subject: Re: FW: Mobile Accessibility 2 - Released - Special Promotion till 31.12.2003 > This is all very nice, but all I want is a simple cell phone with buttons I > can use that talks important things like signal strength, bat life and > caller id and log. I don't need all that other stuff, further, I don't want > all that other stuff. I've got enough ways to do the other stuff and I can > only do one thing at a time with one device so while I'm s m s ing, I can't > use the phone to talk on or while I am talking I cannot write etc and the > bat life must be horrendous! Also, here in the states, 255 tells us that we > should not have to pay extra for accessibility so I still wait for my phone > to meet the regs. > > > VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. > To join or leave the list, send a message to > [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type > "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. > VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html > VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. To join or leave the list, send a message to [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. To join or leave the list, send a message to [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html