Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> I have no experience of, or opinions about those devices, but before you invest in such things, you need to see a true low vision specialist. This is an opthalmologist or optometrist who actually specializes in dealing with reduced vision. There are low vision clinics in some places, and this is even better as they may have lenses, and other gear you can try without buying. Unfortunately the only such clinic I know of is at the U.C. Berkeley dept of Optometry, but I am sure there are many others. Never depend on opinions of general practice ophthalmolgists and or other eye care professionals about how to deal with your low vision problems, just like total blindness issues, most of them know worse than nothing about coping with problems once they have done what they can medically. If your doc can't or won't send you to a low vision specialist, then call the nearest medical school with a dept of ophthalmology and ask if they have a low vision clinic. go there! No matter how hard it is. Never depend on sales literature, or opinions of nonprofessionals to find you the correct help! Low vision is so complex, and specialized knowledge is so absolutely necessary to deal with it correctly, that not finding a specialist with lots of real world experience in low vision is leaving your self out of ideas and technologies that may really do good things. getting bad advice from inexperienced people is sometimes worse than nothing at all. End diatribe Good luck tom Fowle Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Registered VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. To join or leave the list, send a message to [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html