A few years back our company decided to buy some flashy proposal folders from Nebbs, with the gold lettering on a glossy maroon folder (my high school colors oddly enough) with pockets and a slot for our business card. As soon as we started using them we noticed we weren't getting jobs. I guess we hadn't realized that our "folksy" hand written style was part of what our clients were buying. Whenever we sent a proposal in the flashy new folder it was like the kiss of death. At first we were dismayed that we had wasted money and now storage space, but soon realized they were very useful. From then on when we sent a proposal to a client we weren't all that excited about we sent it in a "kiss of death" folder. It was much better than having to fire them later. Signed: Glad the "hungry" days are past. Rudy