Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Gordon, You are not quite correct that no blind folks were able to have an accessible secret balot in that last circus. , Alameda county uses the Dibold touch screen voting machines and my city clerks office had and was able to activate the audible voting system. It worked nearly flawlessly and I was able to complete my balot nearly as fast as was my sighted wife on the visual touch screen. I could move "forward" through that idiotic list of "candidates" quickly by hitting the 6 key on the keypad as soon as I recognized that the name being spoken was not my selection. Of course the election didn't go my way but that's what is called "democracy" these days. There is serious question about the security of the Dibold systems, although my personal opinion is that it is just some computer geeks trying to make a fuss. considering how messed up most things humans do get, I think the progress we've had in this area is fairly remarkable. I just hope everyone gets to see these advantages before the truly critical primaries next spring. And then there's the election for the next king---oops I mean president! Tom Fowle Hayward, Alameda County CA. Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Registered VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. To join or leave the list, send a message to [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html