> > Oh, by the way, animal products -- meat, fat, cholesterol -- have > never been > shown to cause either heart disease or cancers or, as far as I am > aware, any > other disease (except from infected produce or man-made chemical > pollution). > Only processed plant material has. > > Barry Groves > http://www.second-opinions.co.uk Hi Barry what do you think about the correlation drawn by several studies, between a diet high in saturated fat and increased beta-glucuronidase activity, which leads to the (re)absorption of hormones and toxins in the bile, which in turn, is a caustive factor for disease, e.g. breast cancer? This is an oft cited reason to decrease dietary fat and increase fiber. I know this isn't a fair question because most research doesn't look at a high fat diet per se, only fat and fiber in greater or lesser volumes. 1: Goldin BR, Adlercreutz H, Gorbach SL, Warram JH, Dwyer JT, Swenson L, Woods MN. Estrogen excretion patterns and plasma levels in vegetarian and omnivorous women. N Engl J Med. 1982 Dec 16;307(25):1542-7. PMID: 7144835 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 2: Domellof L, Darby L, Hanson D, Mathews L, Simi B, Reddy BS. Fecal sterols and bacterial beta-glucuronidase activity: a preliminary metabolic epidemiology study of healthy volunteers from Umea, Sweden, and metropolitan New York. Nutr Cancer. 1982;4(2):120-7. PMID: 6298751 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 3: Indira M, Vijayammal PL, Menon PV, Kurup PA. Effect of dietary fiber on intestinal bacterial beta-glucuronidase activity in chicks fed a cholesterol-containing diet. Cancer. 1980 Dec 1;46(11):2430-2. PMID: 6254631 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 4: Reddy BS, Hanson D, Mangat S, Mathews L, Sbaschnig M, Sharma C, Simi B. Effect of high-fat, high-beef diet and of mode of cooking of beef in the diet on fecal bacterial enzymes and fecal bile acids and neutral sterols. J Nutr. 1980 Sep;110(9):1880-7. PMID: 7411244 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 5: Reddy BS, Hedges AR, Laakso K, Wynder EL. Metabolic epidemiology of large bowel cancer: fecal bulk and constituents of high-risk North American and low-risk Finnish population. Cancer. 1978 Dec;42(6):2832-8. PMID: 728877 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 6: Hambly RJ, Rumney CJ, Fletcher JM, Rijken PJ, Rowland IR. Effects of high- and low-risk diets on gut microflora-associated biomarkers of colon cancer in human flora-associated rats. Nutr Cancer. 1997;27(3):250-5. PMID: 9101554 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Todd Caldecott, Cl.H., AHG Clinical Herbalist Wild Rose Clinic ******************************************* Director of Clinical Herbal Studies Wild Rose College of Natural Healing ******************************************* 400 - 1228 Kensington Rd. NW Calgary, AB T2N 5P6 CANADA tel: (403) 270-0891 ext 315 fax: (403) 283-0799 email: [log in to unmask] http://www.wrc.net/phyto *******************************************