Soffie, thanks for adding your voice. A real life person went through this and is a member of this very Mighty Post, but I would rather protect his privacy. I too was baffled that this could happen, when I got the call. I hope we do not revisit this again, but like I said earlier, my cards are close to my chest. Please continue the good work. Chi Jaama Joe Sambou >From: "Ceesay, Soffie" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:36:19 -0700 > >Joe, > >I am still in disbelief over this matter. When I was apprised of their >intentions around the time of Yaya's trip here, I chucked it to scare >tactics to keep us from demonstrating. The fact that it has gained some >mileage and from country representatives, no less, is just unbelievable. >That we have a leadership that would sanction such acts, knowing full well >the reasons why people are leaving Gambia in droves, knowing fully well, >the >impoverished conditions that people are living under and that the token >sums >we send help alleviate this suffering a bit, leaves a bile taste in my >mouth. And remember, only a handful of families have children "hustling" >out here in order to help themselves and their families. What about the >suffering and impoverishment of the not-so-fortunate? If I sound >incoherent, please excuse me, my heart cries. > >Thank you for speaking to Tijan in a language that he and his handlers >understand but I was hoping that these were rumors, not actions that Lena >and Tijan intended to engage in. This is the apex of "sohorr"!!! Until >his >diplomatic status, Tijan was one of us, or those he now wants to report. >The lengths people will go to, destroying another human being for the sake >of what they themselves cannot even articulate. Why? > >Soffie > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joe Sambou [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:13 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals > > >Malamin, thanks for your observations. However, in this climate we are in >one will not be given a second chance to go to Canada. You will either >languish in some detension camp for months or deported straight home. >Currently, folks who overstay their visas are being nabbed at Greyhound bus >stations by the INS. Instead of waiting until one is nabbed, why don't we >nib this threat thing in the bud. I did just that and an agreement was >reached to cease and desist. That is the language they needed to hear, not >cuddling. Keep up the good work. > >Chi Jaama > >Joe Sambou > > > >From: Malamin Johnson <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals > >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:56:02 +0000 > > > >Someone made a very interesting point on the issue below. If our embassy >is > >informing on it's citizens for deportations, that could be grounds for > >filing for asylum for fear of torture from our impotent APRC. > >If the US won't grant asylum, head to canada. > > > >Regards, > >MJohnson > > > > > >>From: Malamin Johnson <[log in to unmask]> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > >><[log in to unmask]> > >>To: [log in to unmask] > >>Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals > >>Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:36:57 +0000 > >> > >>Joe, > >> > >>I hope the APRC people will NOT do anything stupid here. How can one > >>report > >>the same hard working people responsible for supporting their families >and > >>keeping the economy in Gambia afloat because of political intolerance. >Is > >>the APRC afraid of the steady drum beat emanting in the diaspora? I >think > >>they are better off trying to find a way to eleviate the suffering of >the > >>masses back home than trying to rob honest Gambians from making a decent > >>living. > >> > >>The thing that bothers me is Joe mentioned 2 employees of the Gambia > >>Embassy > >>who may be behind this threat. Can you imagine our own diplomatic > >>representatives feeding us to the INS as oppose to protecting us. > >>Diplomatic > >>missions that truely represent their citizens are lobbying congress and > >>the > >>Bush admin to ease the suffering/hardships caused by 911. Just remember > >>most > >>of us who are legal used to be illegal at some point. Besides being > >>illegal > >>does not make one a criminal > >> > >>Just my two cents. > >>MJohnson > >> > >> > >>>From: Jassey Conteh <[log in to unmask]> > >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > >>><[log in to unmask]> > >>>To: [log in to unmask] > >>>Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals > >>>Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:28:25 -0400 > >>> > >>>-------Original Message------- > >>>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> > >>>Sent: 07/24/03 12:51 PM > >>>To: [log in to unmask] > >>>Subject: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals > >>> > >>>Comrades: > >>> > >>>While we disagree with the APRC, we must rise above them in not >reporting > >>>any Gambian who is here illegally. We all know that things are tough >in > >>>The Gambia, and if we resort to vindictive attitudes, we may be >affecting > >>>innocent beneficiaries in The Gambia. > >>> > >>>Please let's refrain from reporting any Gambian. > >>> > >>>Naphiyo, > >>> > >>>Comrade Jassey-Conteh > >>> > > >>> > Folks, a while ago, the APRC sycophants threatened to report any > >>>Illegal > >>>Gambian opposed to their misrule to the Immigration Department for > >>>deportation. I had also promised them that I will do likewise to their > >>>supporters if they act on their bluff. Now, I heard from reliable > >>>sources > >>>that they are beginning to call folks to threaten them. I am asking > >>>folks > >>>to provide me names of their supporters, from "Yai/bai Compin" to the > >>>"Saat" > >>>that overstayed their visit. Please send me a private mail of the >names, > >>>addresses, tel. numbers, or work places of anyone that fits that > >>>description. Your privacy will not be compromised. So, I am appealing > >>>to > >>>all and sundry to act. We cannot be complacent with this threat. I >also > >>>want the names of any illegals that relate to anyone that works for the > >>>Embassy in DC. They also shall not be spared. Now, let's see if the >two > >>>slimes (Lena Manga and Tijan Ceesay) are going to proceed with their > >>>so-called dirty business. Act on your threat and you shall be hit hard > >>>too. > >>> If you live in a glass house you should not throw stones. So, >folks, > >>>keep > >>>them coming. > >>> > >>>Chi Jaama > >>> > >>>Joe Sambou > >>> > >>>_________________________________________________________________ > >>>MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. 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