The listing in your startup menu is a shortcut to C:\Windows\wupdmgr.exe. Find the file and create a new shortcut to it. You can find your way to the M$ update site with this link: http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp Ian Porter Computer Guys Inc. Arrowtown New Zealand [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "inwind" Subject: [PCSOFT] W98 update program PCSOFT Digest - 30 Apr 2003 to 1 May 2003 (#2003-122)with the recent discussions about the W98 updates, i suddenly realised my windows automatic update program had disappeared from my startup menu (W98). can anyone tell me where to look for it? (the one that has the on-line program telling you what updates you have already downloaded and which ones are supposed to be critical) thank you, laurence panon Do you want to signoff PCSOFT or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcsoft.shtml