We can refer to homo sapiens. You can load grains with all sorts of antioxidants but they're still phytins..... There are multitudes of papers showing it. She lives on another planet in her head...... Oliva ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary French" <[log in to unmask]> Paleogal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:I really am getting so sick and tired of self appointed potentates She's so blasted full of it..... Oliva(ticked off) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dori Zook" Judi Adams, a registered dietitian who heads the Wheat Foods Council, said , you cannot blame it on carbohydrates," she said.grain foods are enriched with vitamins,