----Original Message Follows---- From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: "St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Addressing an ad-hominm and asking for welcome... Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 08:23:08 -0700 scott, you are free to say anything you want. this is not a censored list. i have asbestos skin. i can take a flame or two along the way. actually i was out of line to just drob a one liner out there with no accompaning logic as to what i was trying to say. texas taxpayers now have to pay for a special session to bring back the inportant bills that died while these guys were "on vacation." --- Scott Sands <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Magenta: > > First, were his actions appropriate to someone who > can only know him for > what he has done in that person's view? > > Second, am I out of line in addressing his actions, > or have I ever addressed > his worth as a person, rather than his behavior? > > At no point in time have I knowingly addressed or > judged Ken as a person. I > have expressed private apologies to him in case I'm > in error, as I've been > careful to address only what he's done, and not who > he is. > > Those of you who know Ken can take what he says > along with that knowledge. > I can only take what I see of him, and I have not, > to my knowledge, applied > that to anything I don't know about him -- I've > basically said his behavior > was out of line. > > Perhaps I was out of line, abusing my welcome, or > otherwise callous in doing > that, or perhaps I unknowingly DID assault Ken's > character. I have > apologized, and I do so again, while once again > asking anyone who wishes to > to call my attention to any attacks I've made on Ken > personally. I'm not > kidding when I say I'll be grateful for it. > > Scott > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:21 PM > Subject: Re: Addressing an ad-hominm and asking for > welcome... > > > > Scott, > > > > Yes, Ken and I are very blunt and to the point > with each other. I call > > something violet, ken calls it reddish. He says > go north, I say go > east... > > > > In no way do I expect him to change. I just say > what I see as the truth, > and > > Kern says, I disagree. > > I know he has been undergoing tremendous pain > lately, and that is why I > more > > or less ignored his barb, and only hope he feels > better soon. This is > > friendship. Friendship understands and doesn't > yell back... > > doesn't retaliate. > > > > > > Mag > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > I am available to do writing, editing, reporting, > designing jobs, > including > > business cards, etc. I am also a disability rights > activist. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com