That's what I meant to write but I put it wrong. It sounded ok at the time. Actually, now I think of it, I'm not sure about the ctrl key in win95 either, but I remember it works with win98. M.Sayer ctrl key does take you to the startup menu in win98 and ME (I'm not sure about win95). f5 in any of these operating systems will bypass the startup files and f8 in win98 and 98 will take you to the startup menu regards, Bill Ades Doctor Data Technology Solutions, inc. Brooklyn, NY www.drdata.com The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com