the stated reason for granada was to evacuate those med students (american) the real reason was that the cuban commonist were about to take it over. vietnam got out of hand when lbj took over. i do not think jfk had any intentions of getting past a few advisers. can't give nixon much, but, he knew we needed to not be there. and gee kat. even i don't check my email when only up for a bathroom run. i thought i was bad. -----Original Message----- From: K. Salkin To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 3/27/2003 4:02 AM Subject: Re: America At War Ah, that was Ken you were replying to, not Bobby. But he's right. We Americans are the most generous people in the world and our government is right up there with the private contributions. We shell out more in foreign aid per dollar than any other country in the world, and our humanitarian efforts are global. Sure, we're aggressive, and I'd be the first person to admit that. And we can be arrogant, and I don't agree with the majority of the military actions we take. For example, I still don't agree with us going down to Grenada (does anyone else remember that???) and still wonder what the hell we were doing down there after all these years. I still don't believe we belonged in Vietnam. That was a senseless war that dragged on far too long and cost us too much. But Iraq and Afghanistan is where I verge from my usual opinion. I don't think we should've gone over there in the first place but now we're there and we need to get the job done this time. As I'd feared, opposition is heavier than the Pentagon had planned for, and victory will not be as easy and swift as it was back in 1991. If this drags on for too long, then Bush will start losing support and he'll be in the same position Johnson was back in 1968. We support the war, true, but we're an impatient lot. Anyway off my soapbox and back to bed! I only got up to go to the bathroom... and came in here to check my email. I'm so pathetic! You'd think I'd know better as I've got an offsite meeting with a corporate web admin to talk about a setup we're trying to do on our HR area site tomorrow. 'Night! Kat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magenta Raine" <[log in to unmask]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:25 AM Subject: Re: America At War > In a message dated 3/26/03 8:41:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] > writes: > > > mag, did you know that the u.s. is giving 15 billion dollars to fight aids > > in africa? the cdc has a permanate office there in the ivory coast > > dedicated > > OK, no, I was not aware of this. Bobby, I apologies > mag > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > I am available to do writing, editing, reporting, designing jobs, including > business cards, etc. I am also a disability rights activist. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~