-- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:20:47 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, because the victim certainly will. Have you ever spilled boiling syrup on your hand? Of course not, city folks don't sugar. I can tell you it burns like hell and you can't get it off. Think what tar would be like. Ruth At 7:58 PM -0500 2/1/03, Ralph Walter wrote: Our Spec writing teacher, while on the topic of workplace injuries, told us that if we ever had a job where a workman fell into an asphalt kettle, we should pray the the guy was killed rather than injured. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:24:16 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: jc's new mail program In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" jc, mail program is fine, just dump the vCard. Ruth At 8:33 PM -0600 2/1/03, John Callan wrote: >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/plain; > delsp=yes; > charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > >I'm not sure. I have started using a new mail program in that last >couple of weeks. Its called, "Mail". It comes with ".Mac". I've >attached a "vCard" also. That could be what you are seeing as an >attachment. If its a problem I suppose I could switch back to >Netscape, but I've really become quite fond of this program. > >-jc -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 21:31:18 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: jc's new mail program In-Reply-To: <a04310104ba6269cefe2c@[216.114.174.150]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-23--722514961 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-23--722514961 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Better? -jc On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 12:24 AM, Ruth Barton wrote: > jc, mail program is fine, just dump the vCard. Ruth > > > > At 8:33 PM -0600 2/1/03, John Callan wrote: >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Content-Type: text/plain; >> delsp=yes; >> charset=US-ASCII; >> format=flowed >> >> I'm not sure. I have started using a new mail program in that last >> couple of weeks. Its called, "Mail". It comes with ".Mac". I've >> attached a "vCard" also. That could be what you are seeing as an >> attachment. If its a problem I suppose I could switch back to >> Netscape, but I've really become quite fond of this program. >> >> -jc > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Westminster, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > --Apple-Mail-23--722514961 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0644; name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Callan\,AIA;John;;;=0D FN:John Callan\,AIA=0D ORG:John Callan\,Architect\,Inc.;=0D TITLE:Principal Architect=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:[log in to unmask] EMAIL;type=3DWORK:[log in to unmask] TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL:(651) 486-7579=0D TEL;type=3DFAX:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:(612) 817-1176=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;784 Deerwood Circle;Lino = Lakes;MN;55014-5433;United States=0D NOTE:Historic Preservation and Museum Services\nSusan=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:johncallanaia=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK:johncallanaia1=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-23--722514961 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-23--722514961-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 03:51:47 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Deb Bledsoe <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C2CA6E.691089A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C2CA6E.691089A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Met History=20 Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:23 PM Subject: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MAN BOILED TO DEATH IN TAR John, BOLAND, 34 years old, of 889 Grand street, was boiled to death early this morning at the plant of the Barber Asphalt Company on Stagg street and Varick avenue, while he was mixing asphalt. cheery news, from close to 100 years ago; the more things change, the more they stay the same..... Jan. 8, 2003, 12:16AM Danger, death at Tyler pipe plant Safety ignored in name of profit By DAVID BARSTOW and LOWELL BERGMAN New York Times=20 TYLER -- It is said that only the desperate seek work at Tyler Pipe, a = sprawling, rusting pipe foundry out on Route 69. Behind a metal fence = lies a dim, dirty, hellishly hot workplace where men are regularly = disfigured by amputations and burns, where turnover is so high that = convicts are recruited from local prisons, where some workers urinate in = their pants because their bosses refuse to let them step away from the = manufacturing line for even a few moments.=20 Rolan Hoskin was desperate. His life was a tailspin of unemployment, = debt and divorce. A master electrician, 48, he had taken an entry-level = maintenance job at Tyler Pipe.=20 He would come home drained and dreading the next shift. "I don't know if = I'm going to last another week," his twin brother recalls him saying. = The job scared him, but the pay was decent, just under $10 an hour.=20 On June 29, 2000, Hoskin descended into a pit under a huge molding = machine and set to work on a conveyor belt that carried sand.=20 Federal regulations require safety guards on conveyor belts to prevent = workers from getting caught and crushed.=20 But this belt was not protected by metal safety guards. It wasn't even = shut down. Hoskin had been trained to adjust the belt while it was still = running. Less downtime that way.=20 Hoskin was found on his knees. His left arm had been crushed first, the = skin torn off. His head had been pulled between belt and rollers. His = skull had split.=20 It was not just a conveyor belt that claimed Hoskin's life. He also fell = victim to a way of doing business that has produced vast profits and, as = the plant's owners have admitted in federal court, deliberate = indifference to the safety of workers at Tyler Pipe.=20 Hoskin worked for McWane Inc., a privately held company based in = Birmingham, Ala., that owns Tyler Pipe. It is one of the world's largest = manufacturers of cast-iron sewer and water pipe. It is also one of the = most dangerous employers in America, according to a nine-month = examination by The New York Times, the PBS television program Frontline = and the Canadian Broadcasting Corp.=20 Since 1995, at least 4,600 injuries have been recorded in McWane = foundries. Nine workers, including Hoskin, have been killed. McWane = plants, which employ about 5,000 workers, have been cited for more than = 400 federal health and safety violations.=20 McWane declined repeated requests for interviews. But in a series of = written responses, the company's president, G. Ruffner Page, = acknowledged "serious mistakes" and expressed deep regret for Hoskin's = death. "Our intensified focus on safety speaks to lessons learned," he = wrote.=20 Employees describe entering the plant as an overwhelming experience. = First is the heat, sometimes in excess of 130 degrees. Then the noise -- = pipe slamming into pipe, pneumatic tools that grind and cut. Dust and = fumes choke the lungs.=20 In late 1995, the Tyler Corp. sold the foundry to McWane. Within weeks, = senior executives flew in from Birmingham and cut nearly two-thirds of = the employees, yet insisted that production continue apace. They = eliminated quality control inspectors and safety inspectors, pollution = control personnel and relief workers.=20 Instead of three shifts of eight hours, everyone would work one of two = 12-hour shifts. But employees often worked 16-hour days, sometimes seven = days a week.=20 Men who operated one machine were ordered to operate three at a time. = Breaks were allowed only if a relief worker was available, but McWane = had reduced the number of relief workers. The policy hit hardest near = iron-pouring stations, where workers had to drink plenty of fluids to = withstand the heat. The humiliating result was that men were sometimes = forced to urinate in their pants.=20 But profits soared. Managers were told that Tyler Pipe earned more than = $50 million in 1996 -- double the profits for the five-year period = before McWane arrived.=20 Four years after the takeover, inspectors from the federal Occupational = Safety and Health Administration found more than 150 safety hazards. ***************************** don't like that one? try this one: = http://my.execpc.com/~wiscoshm/work.html or http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0149.pdf (or anything from = http://www.bls.gov/bls/safety.htm ) or http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5016a2.htm or one of my personal favorites, Gary Oak, may he rest in peace, a = workplace acquaintance of my husband: = http://wcpo.com/news/2002/local/11/15/train.html=20 and that's just in the US, where there are laws to protect workers and = the environment... just think what it must be like in China, or Myanmar, or any number of = places where adults and children labor for pennies a day without = protection, to produce inexpensive consumer goods for world trade got a revolution? it's probably going to take one..... deb ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C2CA6E.691089A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM><FONT size=3D3> <P><!--htdig_noindex--></P> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Met = History</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 01, = 2003 5:23=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> From Brooklyn Standard = Union,=20 June 7, 1907...</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>MAN BOILED TO DEATH IN TAR<BR><BR>John, = BOLAND, 34=20 years old, of 889 Grand street, was boiled to death<BR>early this = morning at=20 the plant of the Barber Asphalt Company on<BR>Stagg street and Varick = avenue,=20 while he was mixing=20 asphalt.<BR></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></EM></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM><FONT = size=3D3></FONT></EM></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT = size=3D3></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>cheery news, from = close to 100=20 years ago;</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>the more things change, = the more they=20 stay the same.....</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><EM>Jan. 8, 2003,=20 12:16AM</EM></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D4><STRONG>Danger, death at = Tyler pipe=20 plant</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <H3>Safety ignored in name of profit</H3> <DIV><B>By DAVID BARSTOW and LOWELL BERGMAN</B><BR><B>New York Times</B> = </DIV> <P>TYLER -- It is said that only the desperate seek work at Tyler Pipe, = a=20 sprawling, rusting pipe foundry out on Route 69. Behind a metal fence = lies a=20 dim, dirty, hellishly hot workplace where men are regularly disfigured = by=20 amputations and burns, where turnover is so high that convicts are = recruited=20 from local prisons, where some workers urinate in their pants because = their=20 bosses refuse to let them step away from the manufacturing line for even = a few=20 moments.=20 <P>Rolan Hoskin was desperate. His life was a tailspin of unemployment, = debt and=20 divorce. A master electrician, 48, he had taken an entry-level = maintenance job=20 at Tyler Pipe.=20 <P>He would come home drained and dreading the next shift. "I don't know = if I'm=20 going to last another week," his twin brother recalls him saying. The = job scared=20 him, but the pay was decent, just under $10 an hour.=20 <P>On June 29, 2000, Hoskin descended into a pit under a huge molding = machine=20 and set to work on a conveyor belt that carried sand.=20 <P>Federal regulations require safety guards on conveyor belts to = prevent=20 workers from getting caught and crushed.=20 <P>But this belt was not protected by metal safety guards. It wasn't = even shut=20 down. Hoskin had been trained to adjust the belt while it was still = running.=20 Less downtime that way.=20 <P>Hoskin was found on his knees. His left arm had been crushed first, = the skin=20 torn off. His head had been pulled between belt and rollers. His skull = had=20 split.=20 <P>It was not just a conveyor belt that claimed Hoskin's life. He also = fell=20 victim to a way of doing business that has produced vast profits and, as = the=20 plant's owners have admitted in federal court, deliberate indifference = to the=20 safety of workers at Tyler Pipe.=20 <P>Hoskin worked for McWane Inc., a privately held company based in = Birmingham,=20 Ala., that owns Tyler Pipe. It is one of the world's largest = manufacturers of=20 cast-iron sewer and water pipe. It is also one of the most dangerous = employers=20 in America, according to a nine-month examination by The New York Times, = the PBS=20 television program <I>Frontline</I> and the Canadian Broadcasting Corp.=20 <P>Since 1995, at least 4,600 injuries have been recorded in McWane = foundries.=20 Nine workers, including Hoskin, have been killed. McWane plants, which = employ=20 about 5,000 workers, have been cited for more than 400 federal health = and safety=20 violations.=20 <P>McWane declined repeated requests for interviews. But in a series of = written=20 responses, the company's president, G. Ruffner Page, acknowledged = "serious=20 mistakes" and expressed deep regret for Hoskin's death. "Our intensified = focus=20 on safety speaks to lessons learned," he wrote.=20 <P>Employees describe entering the plant as an overwhelming experience. = First is=20 the heat, sometimes in excess of 130 degrees. Then the noise -- pipe = slamming=20 into pipe, pneumatic tools that grind and cut. Dust and fumes choke the = lungs.=20 <P>In late 1995, the Tyler Corp. sold the foundry to McWane. Within = weeks,=20 senior executives flew in from Birmingham and cut nearly two-thirds of = the=20 employees, yet insisted that production continue apace. They eliminated = quality=20 control inspectors and safety inspectors, pollution control personnel = and relief=20 workers.=20 <P>Instead of three shifts of eight hours, everyone would work one of = two=20 12-hour shifts. But employees often worked 16-hour days, sometimes seven = days a=20 week.=20 <P>Men who operated one machine were ordered to operate three at a time. = Breaks=20 were allowed only if a relief worker was available, but McWane had = reduced the=20 number of relief workers. The policy hit hardest near iron-pouring = stations,=20 where workers had to drink plenty of fluids to withstand the heat. The=20 humiliating result was that men were sometimes forced to urinate in = their pants.=20 <P>But profits soared. Managers were told that Tyler Pipe earned more = than $50=20 million in 1996 -- double the profits for the five-year period before = McWane=20 arrived.=20 <P>Four years after the takeover, inspectors from the federal = Occupational=20 Safety and Health Administration found more than 150 safety hazards. <P>***************************** <P>don't like that one? try this one: <A=20 href=3D"http://my.execpc.com/~wiscoshm/work.html">http://my.execpc.com/~w= iscoshm/work.html</A> <P>or <A=20 href=3D"http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0149.pdf">http://www.bls.go= v/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0149.pdf</A> =20 (or anything from <A=20 href=3D"http://www.bls.gov/bls/safety.htm">http://www.bls.gov/bls/safety.= htm</A> ) <P>or <A=20 href=3D"http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5016a2.htm">http://www= .cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5016a2.htm</A> <P>or one of my personal favorites, Gary Oak, may he rest in peace, a=20 workplace acquaintance of my husband: <A=20 href=3D"http://wcpo.com/news/2002/local/11/15/train.html">http://wcpo.com= /news/2002/local/11/15/train.html</A> <P>and that's just in the US, where there are laws to protect workers = and the=20 environment... <DIV>just think what it must be like in China, or Myanmar, or any number = of=20 places where adults and children labor for pennies a day without = protection, to=20 produce inexpensive consumer goods for world trade</DIV> <P>got a revolution? it's probably going to take one..... <P> <P>deb <P> </P></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C2CA6E.691089A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:38:45 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: jc's new mail program In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It's still there. Ruth At 9:31 PM -0600 2/1/03, John Callan wrote: >Better? > >-jc > >On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 12:24 AM, Ruth Barton wrote: > >> jc, mail program is fine, just dump the vCard. Ruth >> >> >> >> At 8:33 PM -0600 2/1/03, John Callan wrote: >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>> delsp=yes; >>> charset=US-ASCII; >>> format=flowed >>> >>> I'm not sure. I have started using a new mail program in that last >>> couple of weeks. Its called, "Mail". It comes with ".Mac". I've >>> attached a "vCard" also. That could be what you are seeing as an >>> attachment. If its a problem I suppose I could switch back to >>> Netscape, but I've really become quite fond of this program. >>> >>> -jc >> -- >> Ruth Barton >> [log in to unmask] >> Westminster, VT >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >> >> > >Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" >Content-Type: text/directory; > x-unix-mode=0644; > name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" > >Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:John Callan, AIA.vcf 14 (TEXT/ttxt) >(0010D2BC) -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:43:35 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_78.3723ee25.2b6e96a7_boundary" --part1_78.3723ee25.2b6e96a7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/2/2003 3:52:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Four years after the takeover, inspectors from the federal Occupational > Safety and Health Administration found more than 150 safety hazards. > > Yeah, if you think the idiots at OSHA are going to help eliminate these problems you're sadly mistaken. That organization is nothing but a waste of taxpayers money. In 2001 I sent a letter to the local office here complaining of hazardous conditions in this chemical plant. Prior to this letter, a worker was burned with a 320 degrees acidic liquid, another employee received a chemical burn while walking past a scale tank holding sulfuric acid That had over flowed. The pump is supposed to stop pumping the acid at a predetermined weight. OSHA never showed up one time. They soon came out after my letter and conducted an audit of the plant that utilizes 96-98% sulfuric acid, 35-37% fuming hydrochloric acid and 50% caustic soda in the manufacturing process. Although some items were taken care of most were right back to normal soon after their visit. Also the fines levied against the company were all reduced substantially after OSHA's return visit. Screw corporate America and OSHA. I would like to say a couple of other things but we have been instructed to clean it up. So, I will refrain from speaking my mind. Well, is everyone having a nice day? Breathe in and out, it sure is beautiful outside today, breathe in and out. Hey, I'm okay know. Thanks Deb for the story. I needed something to give me that extra spark. Steve --part1_78.3723ee25.2b6e96a7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/2/2003 3:52:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Four years after the takeover, inspectors from the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration found more than 150 safety hazards. <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><BR> Yeah, if you think the idiots at OSHA are going to help eliminate these problems you're sadly mistaken. That organization is nothing but a waste of taxpayers money. In 2001 I sent a letter to the local office here complaining of hazardous conditions in this chemical plant. Prior to this letter, a worker was burned with a 320 degrees acidic liquid, another employee received a chemical burn while walking past a scale tank holding sulfuric acid That had over flowed. The pump is supposed to stop pumping the acid at a predetermined weight. OSHA never showed up one time. They soon came out after my letter and conducted an audit of the plant that utilizes 96-98% sulfuric acid, 35-37% fuming hydrochloric acid and 50% caustic soda in the manufacturing process. Although some items were taken care of most were right back to normal soon after their visit. Also the fines levied against the company were all reduced substantially after OSHA's return visit. Screw corporate America and OSHA. I would like to say a couple of other things but we have been instructed to clean it up. So, I will refrain from speaking my mind. Well, is everyone having a nice day? Breathe in and out, it sure is beautiful outside today, breathe in and out. Hey, I'm okay know. Thanks Deb for the story. I needed something to give me that extra spark. <BR> <BR> Steve </FONT></HTML> --part1_78.3723ee25.2b6e96a7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:17:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Mark W. James" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_144.9618841.2b6eacbc_boundary" --part1_144.9618841.2b6eacbc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/2/2003 12:52:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > and that's just in the US, where there are laws to protect workers and the > environment... just think what it must be like in China, or Myanmar, or any > number of places where adults and children labor for pennies a day without > protection, to produce inexpensive consumer goods for world trade > > > got a revolution? it's probably going to take one..... > > > > deb > > Yeah, it's a third Party called "We The People." Mark --part1_144.9618841.2b6eacbc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/2/2003 12:52:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">and that's just in the US, where there are laws to protect workers and the environment... just think what it must be like in China, or Myanmar, or any number of places where adults and children labor for pennies a day without protection, to produce inexpensive consumer goods for world trade<BR> <BR> <BR> got a revolution? it's probably going to take one..... <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> deb <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Yeah, it's a third Party called "We The People."<BR> <BR> Mark</FONT></HTML> --part1_144.9618841.2b6eacbc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:21:16 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Mark W. James" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: jc's new mail program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a2.32e8fd5a.2b6ead8c_boundary" --part1_a2.32e8fd5a.2b6ead8c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/1/2003 7:31:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Better? > > -jc > Much better. I got fooled, too. MJ --part1_a2.32e8fd5a.2b6ead8c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/1/2003 7:31:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Better?<BR> <BR> -jc<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Much better. I got fooled, too.<BR> MJ</FONT></HTML> --part1_a2.32e8fd5a.2b6ead8c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:25:43 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2CABE.96AE5680" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2CABE.96AE5680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Condensed version : ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... You ? In school? No wonder jaded! -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2CABE.96AE5680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Condensed version :</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John=20 Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 01, = 2003 6:38=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: From Brooklyn = Standard=20 Union, June 7, 1907...</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>You ? In school? No wonder jaded!<BR><BR> <HR> <P></P><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2CABE.96AE5680-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 03:14:32 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01C2CB32.5EEA1E40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C2CB32.5EEA1E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear historic woody people, I am currently rebuilding a floor in a pioneer building of 1877, = originally a store along a pack-horse trail leading to gold fields. = Some of the joists have started to collapse due to carpenter ant = intrusion and the induced rot. The floor was built totally detached = from the log walls of the building, apparently installed after the = building was up. The floor joists were laid right on the levelled = ground with only shimming rocks and no crawl space. The only way to = replace the joists has been to take the floor apart from the top down, = carefully removing several layers of flooring added over the years with = the intent of replacing them if appropriate at the end of the project. = When the original whipsawn floor boards were finally removed, well = packed earth revealed where the original entry door had been. Between = the packed earth and the wood floor above, in the 6" space created by = the squared joists, there was a pile of wood chips from the joist = hewing. Laying in the chips, centred right in front of the entry door = spot, was a horse shoe, neatly lined up with the entry alignment. It = looked as though it had been placed there before the new floorboards = were fastened down. Question: Does anyone know of a tradition of placing a Good Luck = Horseshoe below the threshold of a new building? cp in very rustic bc ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C2CB32.5EEA1E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear historic woody = people,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am currently rebuilding a floor in a = pioneer=20 building of 1877, originally a store along a pack-horse trail leading to = gold=20 fields. Some of the joists have started to collapse due to = carpenter=20 ant intrusion and the induced rot. The floor was built = totally=20 detached from the log walls of the building, apparently installed after = the=20 building was up. The floor joists were laid right on the = levelled=20 ground with only shimming rocks and no crawl space. The only way = to=20 replace the joists has been to take the floor apart from the top down, = carefully=20 removing several layers of flooring added over the years with the intent = of=20 replacing them if appropriate at the end of the project. = When the=20 original whipsawn floor boards were finally removed, well packed earth = revealed=20 where the original entry door had been. Between the packed = earth and=20 the wood floor above, in the 6" space created by the squared = joists,=20 there was a pile of wood chips from the joist hewing. = Laying in=20 the chips, centred right in front of the entry door spot, was a = horse shoe,=20 neatly lined up with the entry alignment. It looked as = though it had=20 been placed there before the new floorboards were fastened = down.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Question: Does anyone know of a = tradition of=20 placing a Good Luck Horseshoe below the threshold of a new=20 building?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp in very rustic = bc</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C2CB32.5EEA1E40-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:52:58 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? In-Reply-To: <005e01c2cb75$f5921940$d42134d1@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01C2CB61.A75B25F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C2CB61.A75B25F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Of course the horseshoe over the door is pretty common, but under the floor? I've also heard of placing the eye of an ox in a mortice by the door of the barn when it is raised. In the Black Forest area in Germany it was tradition to roast the ox that was used to haul the timbers for a new barn house, then hang it's head from the rafter peaks inside the barn for good luck and leave it there. They had no chimneys so the smoke from the fires would preserve it. Rudy -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cuyler Page Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:15 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Good Luck Horseshoes? Dear historic woody people, I am currently rebuilding a floor in a pioneer building of 1877, originally a store along a pack-horse trail leading to gold fields. Some of the joists have started to collapse due to carpenter ant intrusion and the induced rot. The floor was built totally detached from the log walls of the building, apparently installed after the building was up. The floor joists were laid right on the levelled ground with only shimming rocks and no crawl space. The only way to replace the joists has been to take the floor apart from the top down, carefully removing several layers of flooring added over the years with the intent of replacing them if appropriate at the end of the project. When the original whipsawn floor boards were finally removed, well packed earth revealed where the original entry door had been. Between the packed earth and the wood floor above, in the 6" space created by the squared joists, there was a pile of wood chips from the joist hewing. Laying in the chips, centred right in front of the entry door spot, was a horse shoe, neatly lined up with the entry alignment. It looked as though it had been placed there before the new floorboards were fastened down. Question: Does anyone know of a tradition of placing a Good Luck Horseshoe below the threshold of a new building? cp in very rustic bc ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C2CB61.A75B25F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2CB61.A66E2DE0"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:553679495 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body bgcolor=3Dwhite lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Of course the horseshoe over the = door is pretty common, but under the floor? I’ve also heard of placing the = eye of an ox in a mortice by the door of the barn when it is = raised.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In the Black Forest area in Germany = it was tradition to roast the ox that was used to haul the timbers for a new = barn house, then hang it’s head from the rafter peaks inside the barn = for good luck and leave it there. They had no chimneys so the smoke from the = fires would preserve it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rudy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> "Let us not = speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <b><span = style=3D'font-weight: bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Cuyler Page<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, February = 03, 2003 6:15 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> [log in to unmask]<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Good Luck = Horseshoes?</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dear historic woody = people,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am currently rebuilding a = floor in a pioneer building of 1877, originally a store along a pack-horse trail = leading to gold fields. Some of the joists have started to collapse = due to carpenter ant intrusion and the induced rot. The floor was = built totally detached from the log walls of the building, apparently = installed after the building was up. The floor joists were laid right on the levelled ground with only shimming rocks and no crawl space. The = only way to replace the joists has been to take the floor apart from the top = down, carefully removing several layers of flooring added over the years with = the intent of replacing them if appropriate at the end of the = project. When the original whipsawn floor boards were finally removed, well = packed earth revealed where the original entry door had been. Between the = packed earth and the wood floor above, in the 6" space created by the squared joists, there was a pile of wood chips from the = joist hewing. Laying in the chips, centred right in front of the = entry door spot, was a horse shoe, neatly lined up with the entry alignment. It looked as though it had been placed there = before the new floorboards were fastened down.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Question: Does anyone = know of a tradition of placing a Good Luck Horseshoe below the threshold of a = new building?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>cp in very rustic = bc</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C2CB61.A75B25F0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:02:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15e.1b236baa.2b6fd05b_boundary" --part1_15e.1b236baa.2b6fd05b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 2/3/2003 8:53:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes: > In the Black Forest area in Germany it was tradition to roast the ox that=20 > was used to haul the timbers for a new barn house, then hang it=E2=80=99s=20= head from=20 > the rafter peaks inside the barn for good luck and leave it there. They ha= d=20 > no chimneys so the smoke from the fires would preserve it. Do those Krauts know how to show their gratitude, or what? Ralph --part1_15e.1b236baa.2b6fd05b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/3/2003 8:53:48 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">In the Black Forest area in Germany it was tradition to roa= st the ox that was used to haul the timbers for a new barn house, then hang=20= it=E2=80=99s head from the rafter peaks inside the barn for good luck and le= ave it there. They had no chimneys so the smoke from the fires would preserv= e it.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:= #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Do those Krauts know how to show their gratitude, or what?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_15e.1b236baa.2b6fd05b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:57:40 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/3/2003 8:52:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > In the Black Forest area in Germany it was tradition to roast the ox that was used to haul the timbers for a new barn house, then hang it’s head from the rafter peaks inside the > barn for good luck and leave it there. And pray to the Gods that you didn't have to haul lumber anytime soon. Twyb. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:24:39 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "M. P. Edison" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Don't Blame OSHA... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I read Savannah Steve's searing remarks about OSHA, and while I am sympathetic to the cause, I would place the blame elsewhere. First of all, who among us is really shocked--SHOCKED!!-- to learn that there are government employees who are either too lazy to do their jobs properly or who are being prevented from doing their jobs properly due to political pressures from above? Second, just recently, wasn't it the consensus on this listserv that a person working for the State of Mississippi who suspected his boss of wrongdoing should shut up, eat crap and keep his job? My comment was and is that we deserve the system we get. If nobody sticks their neck out to fight when something is wrong, there are terrible repercussions. Just look at our headlines in 2002. The stock market frauds represent a looting of America by well-connected folks who paid to get rules rewritten in their interest at the expense of the public interest. If the public doesn't squawk, nothing will be changed. If we are individually lazy and allow them to feed us crap, crap will most certainly be the only item on the menu. Finally, a bit of balance from an employer's perspective. OSHA can be and should an agency protecting the safety and health of employees, but should not be punishing every employer for the malfeasance of a few rotten ones. There is an ideal balance to beachieved between protecting workers and not encumbering employers, particularly small employers, with tremendous amounts of paperwork. In our dealings with OSHA to date, we have found them reasonable. They have addressed specific questions with clarity and focus and we were able to respond in kind. The listserv may be shocked -- SHOCKED!! -- to learn that there are also government employees who do their jobs well and are able to maintain the balanced perspective which is the stated policy of their agency. Edison Coatings, Inc. M. P. Edison President 3 Northwest Drive Plainville, CT 06062 USA Phone: (860)747-2220 Fax: (860)747-2280 email: [log in to unmask] Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:14:28 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters X-To: [log in to unmask] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters The Preservation Trades Network is inviting all those engaged or interested in the preservation crafts and trades to submit proposals for being included on the program for the 7th annual International Preservation Trades Workshops (IPTW 2003), which will be held at at the Blandair Farm near Ellicott City, Maryland and is co-sponsored with PTN by the Howard County Department of Parks and Recreation. If you are interested in demonstrating a particular preservation-related trade skill or craft technique, please send a description of the demonstration and several photographs of yourself engaged in that work, as well as photographs of the finished product. Please include a copy of your resume, if you have one. If you would like to present a seminar or lead a workshop session, please provide the name of the topic, a brief outline or abstract of the presentation, and a copy of your resume. Preference will be given to seminars that feature hands-on componentg, strong visuals, or that relate specifically to the the needs of the preservation trades community. Proposals should be sent to PTN, at the address listed below, by June 1, 2003. Proposals (including photographs) will not be returned. More information about this year s IPTW is available at www.ptn.org, by e-mail at [log in to unmask], or by writing to Preservation Trades Network, Inc., PO Box 10236, Rockville, MD 20849-0236. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:15:20 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: PTN Website Updates X-To: PTN-M <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Updates have been made to the PTN website including information and photos of Blandair, the Maryland site for IPTW 2003 and a brief report on the 2003 PTN Strategic Retreat. Please visit www.ptn.org and check the New and Noteworthy page. Planned updates in the near future for the PTN website include a Member's Only section [PTN Toolbox] and a Bulletin Board for use of PTN members. Please bookmark and revisit the PTN website frequently. Ken Follett, Web Editor -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:36:05 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: PTN Website Updates In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gab, You might try downsizing the images before uploading to the site. Once they're downloaded, you have to scroll to view them and you can only see about 25% at a time. Great shots! Rude -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gabriel Orgrease Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:15 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: PTN Website Updates Updates have been made to the PTN website including information and photos of Blandair, the Maryland site for IPTW 2003 and a brief report on the 2003 PTN Strategic Retreat. Please visit www.ptn.org and check the New and Noteworthy page. Planned updates in the near future for the PTN website include a Member's Only section [PTN Toolbox] and a Bulletin Board for use of PTN members. Please bookmark and revisit the PTN website frequently. Ken Follett, Web Editor -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:54:21 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Hey, Brooklyn observers ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_191.14b1b9af.2b7014dd_boundary" --part1_191.14b1b9af.2b7014dd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...anyone know what's happening with the 1930 movie palace Loew's Pitkin Theater/later 3 Guys Furniture, 1501 Pitkin Ave. @NW cor. Saratoga? I have a report of substantial construction activity on the building, but am too busy reading all the posts about OSHA to go out there. Christopher --part1_191.14b1b9af.2b7014dd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">...anyone know what's happening with the 1930 mo= vie palace Loew's Pitkin Theater/later 3 Guys Furniture, 1501 Pitkin Ave. @N= W cor. Saratoga? I have a report of substantial construction activity=20= on the building, but am too busy reading all the posts about OSHA to go out=20= there. <BR> <BR>Christopher </FONT></HTML> --part1_191.14b1b9af.2b7014dd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:36:34 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? >Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:57:40 -0500 > >In a message dated 2/3/2003 8:52:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[log in to unmask] writes: > > > In the Black Forest area in Germany it was tradition to roast the ox >that was used to haul the timbers for a new barn house, then hang it’s >head from the rafter peaks inside the > > barn for good luck and leave it there. > >And pray to the Gods that you didn't have to haul lumber anytime soon. > >Twyb. > One thing about those Germans, when its "Miller Time", they know how to relax! Nick _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:50:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e2.fcfa9c.2b70221b_boundary" --part1_1e2.fcfa9c.2b70221b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/2003 2:37:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > One thing about those Germans, when its "Miller Time", they know how to > relax! > > You just want to be careful while they're looking around for something to throw on the Barbie, Klaus. Ralph --part1_1e2.fcfa9c.2b70221b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/3/2003 2:37:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">One thing about those Germans, when its "Miller Time", they know how to<BR> relax!<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> You just want to be careful while they're looking around for something to throw on the Barbie, Klaus.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e2.fcfa9c.2b70221b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:01:47 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > One thing about those Germans, when its "Miller Time", they know how to > > relax! > > > > > >You just want to be careful while they're looking around for something to >throw on the Barbie, Klaus. > >Ralph Ouch!! Nick _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:17:56 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E417E7EBEE112E7CE37F5EF6" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E417E7EBEE112E7CE37F5EF6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well I don't feel so dumb-- for years I've been nailing money to jobs- though I don't too much actual nailing anymore... I still try to see that on the first day we run track that some change- preferably from the current year is nailed down.... Yes I know that driving a concrete pin through a quarter kind of devalues it for future numismatics I also tend to toss some change into concrete pours... Picked the habit up from a furniture guy who screwed pennies from the year he mad a piece to the piece, being a furniture guy he was more careful and ran 3-4 screws around the perimiter of hte coin.. Years ago a partner of mine found a roll of uncirculated liberty dimes from the Denver Mint, in a bar we were remodelling in Denver- he was less than understanding of the whole partnership thing from that moment on.. He ended up w/ a new used pick-up.. and I ended up w/ his girlfriend... well at least he didn't have to borrow my truck when he moved out of her house... --------------E417E7EBEE112E7CE37F5EF6 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------E417E7EBEE112E7CE37F5EF6-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:34:02 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: The Once-Delicate Terra Cotta on the Vanderbilt Hotel at 34th & Park.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1f1.de8d31.2b702c3a_boundary" --part1_1f1.de8d31.2b702c3a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ..., designed by Warren & Wetmore and built in 1912, has been gradually stripped away over the last several decades. Is any B-P subscriber the guilty party? Or would you like to rat on your colleague? Christopher Gray "Streetscapes" Columnist, Sunday Real Estate Section The New York Times office: 246 West 80th Street New York City 10024 voice: 212-799-0520 fax: 212-799-0542 e: [log in to unmask] --part1_1f1.de8d31.2b702c3a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">..., designed by Warren & Wetmore and built in 1912, has been gradually stripped away over the last several decades. Is any B-P subscriber the guilty party? Or would you like to rat on your colleague? <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Christopher Gray <BR>"Streetscapes" Columnist, Sunday Real Estate Section <BR>The New York Times <BR>office: 246 West 80th Street <BR>New York City 10024 <BR>voice: 212-799-0520 <BR>fax: 212-799-0542 <BR>e: [log in to unmask]</FONT></HTML> --part1_1f1.de8d31.2b702c3a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:43:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: You've come a long way, baby... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_17b.157f0918.2b702e7b_boundary" --part1_17b.157f0918.2b702e7b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From the Brooklyn Union-Argus, Monday July 7, 1879: A Baby's Miraculous Escape -- Ellen ENGERMAN, thirteen months old, fell=20 yesterday afternoon from a third story window of No. 324 Myrtle avenue.=A0=20= On=20 the way down, she struck a cornice, and finally landed on the sidewalk.=A0=20= Dr.=20 KUHN pronounced Ellen unhurt but would not warrant her for a second fall. {Transcribed by Kathy Jost-Shouse } On a 1930's glass block apartment house at 83rd & Madison, a baby fell from=20= a=20 7th floor window around 1980. Because the infant hit the top of the angled=20 store window awning, it survived with only a bruise. The store replaced the= =20 awning about two weeks later - with the newer style awning - with fabric onl= y=20 on the vertical sides ... but no fabric on the top.=20 Sign me, Treat Your Children Well, Their Parents' Hell.... --part1_17b.157f0918.2b702e7b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>From the Brooklyn Union-Argus, Monday July 7, 1879: <BR> <BR>A Baby's Miraculous Escape -- Ellen ENGERMAN, thirteen month= s old, fell yesterday afternoon from a third story window of No. 324 M= yrtle avenue.=A0 On the way down, she struck a cornice, and finally la= nded on the sidewalk.=A0 Dr. KUHN pronounced Ellen unhurt but would no= t warrant her for a second fall. <BR>{Transcribed by Kathy Jost-Shouse } <BR> <BR>On a 1930's glass block apartment house at 83rd & Madison, a baby fe= ll from a 7th floor window around 1980. Because the infant hit the top of th= e angled store window awning, it survived with only a bruise. The stor= e replaced the awning about two weeks later - with the newer style awning -=20= with fabric only on the vertical sides ... but no fabric on the top.=20 <BR> <BR>Sign me, Treat Your Children Well, Their Parents' Hell....</FONT><= /HTML> --part1_17b.157f0918.2b702e7b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:02:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_144.9792aaf.2b7032f9_boundary" --part1_144.9792aaf.2b7032f9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/2003 3:02:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ouch!! > > Nick > That's why they call you Nick, huh? Ralph --part1_144.9792aaf.2b7032f9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/3/2003 3:02:22 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ouch!!<BR> <BR> Nick<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> That's why they call you Nick, huh?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_144.9792aaf.2b7032f9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:05:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Once-Delicate Terra Cotta on the Vanderbilt Hotel at 34th & Park.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1f1.dfcd02.2b7033ae_boundary" --part1_1f1.dfcd02.2b7033ae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/2003 3:34:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > ..., designed by Warren &Wetmore and built in 1912, has been gradually > stripped away over the last several decades. Is any B-P subscriber the > guilty party? Or would you like to rat on your colleague? > Chrif, Chalk it up to Progress. Ralph --part1_1f1.dfcd02.2b7033ae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/3/2003 3:34:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">..., designed by Warren &Wetmore and built in 1912, has been gradually stripped away over the last several decades. Is any B-P subscriber the guilty party? Or would you like to rat on your colleague? <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"><BR> Chrif,<BR> <BR> Chalk it up to Progress.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1f1.dfcd02.2b7033ae_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:09:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: You've come a long way, baby... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_25.33be86a4.2b703497_boundary" --part1_25.33be86a4.2b703497_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/2003 3:44:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Dr. KUHN pronounced Ellen unhurt but would not warrant her for a second > fall. > Yes, indeed, doctors' fears of malpractice claims are an entirely new phenomenon arising directly out of the rapacious malpractice bar. How come nobody said not to try this at home? Ralph --part1_25.33be86a4.2b703497_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/3/2003 3:44:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Dr. KUHN pronounced Ellen unhurt but would not warrant her for a second fall. <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Yes, indeed, doctors' fears of malpractice claims are an entirely new phenomenon arising directly out of the rapacious malpractice bar.<BR> <BR> How come nobody said not to try this at home?<BR> <BR> Ralph </FONT></HTML> --part1_25.33be86a4.2b703497_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:20:12 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Leland Torrence <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZlM97ZOgMfiipwntcBoKHw)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_ZlM97ZOgMfiipwntcBoKHw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT And we all remember the October Horse. In Rome they used to parade the two best warrior stallions. The most magnificent and fastest steed was then sacrificed. Best, Leland -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ralph Walter Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:02 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? In a message dated 2/3/2003 8:53:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: In the Black Forest area in Germany it was tradition to roast the ox that was used to haul the timbers for a new barn house, then hang it's head from the rafter peaks inside the barn for good luck and leave it there. They had no chimneys so the smoke from the fires would preserve it. Do those Krauts know how to show their gratitude, or what? Ralph --Boundary_(ID_ZlM97ZOgMfiipwntcBoKHw) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=296321823-03022003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>And we all remember the October Horse. In Rome they used to parade the two best warrior stallions. The most magnificent and fastest steed was then sacrificed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=296321823-03022003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=296321823-03022003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Leland</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ralph Walter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 03, 2003 9:02 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Good Luck Horseshoes?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/3/2003 8:53:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000080 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In the Black Forest area in Germany it was tradition to roast the ox that was used to haul the timbers for a new barn house, then hang it’s head from the rafter peaks inside the barn for good luck and leave it there. They had no chimneys so the smoke from the fires would preserve it.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Do those Krauts know how to show their gratitude, or what?<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_ZlM97ZOgMfiipwntcBoKHw)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:05:59 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cc.18b2667.2b707a07_boundary" --part1_1cc.18b2667.2b707a07_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit K- I'm thinking od demonstrating, but just can't think of anything that I'm too strongly against at the moment. Twybil Cinque --part1_1cc.18b2667.2b707a07_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">K-<BR> <BR> I'm thinking od demonstrating, but just can't think of anything that I'm too strongly against at the moment.<BR> <BR> Twybil Cinque</FONT></HTML> --part1_1cc.18b2667.2b707a07_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:16:24 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? In-Reply-To: <000301c2cbda$cdd2ab80$6501a8c0@Leland> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--554208596 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-10--554208596 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Sometimes I think we do that with people. -jc On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 05:20 PM, Leland Torrence wrote: > And we all remember the October Horse.=A0 In Rome they used to parade=20= > the two best warrior stallions. The most magnificent and fastest steed=20= > was then sacrificed. > Best, > Leland > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit=20 > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ralph=20= > Walter > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:02 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? > > In a message dated 2/3/2003 8:53:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > In the Black Forest area in Germany it was tradition to roast the ox=20= > that was used to haul the timbers for a new barn house, then hang it=92s= =20 > head from the rafter peaks inside the barn for good luck and leave it=20= > there. They had no chimneys so the smoke from the fires would preserve=20= > it. > > > > Do those Krauts know how to show their gratitude, or what? > > Ralph > --Apple-Mail-10--554208596 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Sometimes I think we do that with people. -jc On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 05:20 PM, Leland Torrence wrote: <excerpt><color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</param><smaller>And we all remember the October Horse.=A0 In Rome they used to parade the two best warrior stallions. The most magnificent and fastest steed was then sacrificed.</smaller></color> <color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</param><smaller>Best,</smaller></color> <color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</param><smaller>Leland</smaller></color> <smaller>-----Original Message----- <bold>From:</bold> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <bold>On Behalf Of </bold>Ralph Walter <bold>Sent:</bold> Monday, February 03, 2003 9:02 AM <bold>To:</bold> [log in to unmask] <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? <fontfamily><param>Arial</param>In a message dated 2/3/2003 8:53:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <color><param>0000,0000,8080</param>In the Black Forest area in Germany it was tradition to roast the ox that was used to haul the timbers for a new barn house, then hang it=92s head from the rafter peaks inside the barn for good luck and leave it there. They had no chimneys so the smoke from the fires would preserve it.</color> <color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Do those Krauts know how to show their gratitude, or what? Ralph</color></fontfamily></smaller> </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-10--554208596-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:31:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b4.17ce9648.2b707feb_boundary" --part1_b4.17ce9648.2b707feb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:06:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I'm thinking od demonstrating, but just can't think of anything that I'm too > strongly against at the moment. > > Twybil Cinque > Twy, If Patty Hearst told you you had a nice body, would you hold it against her? Symbionic Ralph --part1_b4.17ce9648.2b707feb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:06:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm thinking od demonstrating, but just can't think of anything that I'm too strongly against at the moment.<BR> <BR> Twybil Cinque</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Twy,<BR> <BR> If Patty Hearst told you you had a nice body, would you hold it against her?<BR> <BR> Symbionic Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_b4.17ce9648.2b707feb_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:37:27 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12--552945389 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-12--552945389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Ralph, would you believe her? On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 08:31 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:06:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > I'm thinking od demonstrating, but just can't think of anything that > I'm too strongly against at the moment. > > Twybil Cinque > > > Twy, > > If Patty Hearst told you you had a nice body, would you hold it > against her? > > Symbionic Ralph --Apple-Mail-12--552945389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Ralph, would you believe her? On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 08:31 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:06:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>I'm thinking od demonstrating, but just can't think of anything that I'm too strongly against at the moment. Twybil Cinque <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>Twy, If Patty Hearst told you you had a nice body, would you hold it against her? Symbionic Ralph</smaller></color></fontfamily></excerpt> --Apple-Mail-12--552945389-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:42:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1eb.e74a0e.2b7082aa_boundary" --part1_1eb.e74a0e.2b7082aa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:37:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ralph, would you believe her? > John, I think she'd have to prove her love, but now that she's older (and we're not) I'd be inclined to take Twybil's word for it. As opposed to monitoring the proceedings myself. Don't you think that's reasonable? Or maybe we could just arrange for them both to be on a crowded subway train at the same time. Probably even more reasonable. Ralph --part1_1eb.e74a0e.2b7082aa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:37:33 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ralph, would you believe=20= her?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> John,<BR> <BR> I think she'd have to prove her love, but now that she's older (and we're no= t) I'd be inclined to take Twybil's word for it. As opposed to monitoring th= e proceedings myself. Don't you think that's reasonable? <BR> <BR> Or maybe we could just arrange for them both to be on a crowded subway train= at the same time. Probably even <U>more</U> reasonable.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1eb.e74a0e.2b7082aa_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:54:52 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14--551900312 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-14--551900312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed She's always been too old for me. But if Twybil is so inclined, I'll=20 try to smother my giggles and look real sincere as he tells us all=20 about it. -jc On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 08:42 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:37:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Ralph,=A0 would you believe her? > > > John, > > I think she'd have to prove her love, but now that she's older (and=20 > we're not) I'd be inclined to take Twybil's word for it. As opposed to=20= > monitoring the proceedings myself.=A0 Don't you think that's > = reasonable?=A0 > > Or maybe we could just arrange for them both to be on a crowded subway=20= > train at the same time.=A0 Probably even more reasonable. > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-14--551900312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 She's always been too old for me. But if Twybil is so inclined, I'll try to smother my giggles and look real sincere as he tells us all about it. -jc On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 08:42 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:37:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>Ralph,=A0 would you believe her? John, I think she'd have to prove her love, but now that she's older (and we're not) I'd be inclined to take Twybil's word for it. As opposed to monitoring the proceedings myself.=A0 Don't you think that's = reasonable?=A0 Or maybe we could just arrange for them both to be on a crowded subway train at the same time.=A0 Probably even <underline>more</underline> reasonable. Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-14--551900312-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:04:30 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_84.8fb623d.2b7087be_boundary" --part1_84.8fb623d.2b7087be_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:55:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > She's always been too old for me. Even with the gun and the flag? I thought she was kinda hot. Ya know, Young Mike Edison is in CT, and she's in CT. Maybe he can give us a recent update on her hottitude. Mike? Ralph --part1_84.8fb623d.2b7087be_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:55:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">She's always been too old for me. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Even with the gun and the flag? I thought she was kinda hot. <BR> <BR> Ya know, Young Mike Edison is in CT, and she's in CT. Maybe he can give us a recent update on her hottitude. Mike?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_84.8fb623d.2b7087be_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:36:33 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > Ouch!! > > > > Nick > > > >That's why they call you Nick, huh? > >Ralph Mr. Ralph: I got this name as a result of my habit of "Nicking" all the stones I carved. Others have called me "Spall" and "Chip" on occasion. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 02:28:33 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f6.28285843.2b70c5a1_boundary" --part1_f6.28285843.2b70c5a1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 1:44:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > > > >>Ouch!! > >> > >>Nick > >> > > > >That's why they call you Nick, huh? > > > >Ralph > > Mr. Ralph: > > I got this name as a result of my habit of "Nicking" all the stones I > carved. Others have called me "Spall" and "Chip" on occasion. > Brother Nick, And if the stones could talk (whether or not the walls have ears, and we know some architraves have them), wouldn't they say "ouch?" Ralph PS-- Why do you think I gave up shaving? I now leave it to my barber, another unfortunately-named Nick. But my Nick's a spaghetti bender, unlike you Greeks who'll bend anything. On the other hand, Mr. Kay, who used to be my barber, was Greek. But he's dead. And now I'm not the concierge, the barber, or a madam. But I have seen The Producers (both versions); the movie was better. --part1_f6.28285843.2b70c5a1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 1:44:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">><BR> >>Ouch!!<BR> >><BR> >>Nick<BR> >><BR> ><BR> >That's why they call you Nick, huh?<BR> ><BR> >Ralph<BR> <BR> Mr. Ralph:<BR> <BR> I got this name as a result of my habit of "Nicking" all the stones I<BR> carved. Others have called me "Spall" and "Chip" on occasion.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Brother Nick,<BR> <BR> And if the stones could talk (whether or not the walls have ears, and we know some architraves have them), wouldn't they say "ouch?"<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> PS-- Why do you think I gave up shaving? I now leave it to my barber, another unfortunately-named Nick. But my Nick's a spaghetti bender, unlike you Greeks who'll bend anything. On the other hand, Mr. Kay, who used to be my barber, was Greek. But he's dead. And now I'm not the concierge, the barber, or a madam. But I have seen The Producers (both versions); the movie was better.</FONT></HTML> --part1_f6.28285843.2b70c5a1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 06:59:46 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--515606875 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2--515606875 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed She may be part of why my admiration for 60's radicals is limited to so=20= few. If she's hot now, its something she gained along the way. It could=20 happen. Perhaps she's become a preservationeer! -jc On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 09:04 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:55:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > She's always been too old for me. > > > > Even with the gun and the flag?=A0 I thought she was kinda hot.=A0 > > Ya know, Young Mike Edison is in CT, and she's in CT.=A0 Maybe he can=20= > give us a recent update on her hottitude.=A0 Mike? > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-2--515606875 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 She may be part of why my admiration for 60's radicals is limited to so few. If she's hot now, its something she gained along the way. It could happen. Perhaps she's become a preservationeer! =20 -jc On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 09:04 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:55:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>She's always been too old for me. Even with the gun and the flag?=A0 I thought she was kinda hot.=A0 Ya know, Young Mike Edison is in CT, and she's in CT.=A0 Maybe he can give us a recent update on her hottitude.=A0 Mike? Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2--515606875-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:32:15 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------81C41D415E9E22ED331A72FE" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------81C41D415E9E22ED331A72FE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A07B08E7FE4C355EFE0A07F7" --------------A07B08E7FE4C355EFE0A07F7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ralph Walter wrote: > Even with the gun and the flag? I thought she was kinda hot. > > Ralph Yes but that beret looked as dumb on her as it did on Monica DD --------------A07B08E7FE4C355EFE0A07F7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <p>Ralph Walter wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Even with the gun and the flag? I thought she was kinda hot.</font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Ralph</font></font></blockquote> <p><br>Yes but that beret looked as dumb on her as it did on Monica <p>DD <br> </html> --------------A07B08E7FE4C355EFE0A07F7-- --------------81C41D415E9E22ED331A72FE Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------81C41D415E9E22ED331A72FE-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:50:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11d.1e1f294f.2b713b5c_boundary" --part1_11d.1e1f294f.2b713b5c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What do you think the Firewire port they invented is for? Give it up Dan... the raging ATEC PC motherboard we got recently for home consumption comes w/ Firewire... we left off one step south of Blue Tooth -- nothing like a LITTLE bit of protection! The good news??? The Mboard won't play games published by MS due to some bios conflict or other. I suppose 10 hours and two weeks and we might figure out how to install the correct patch. ][<en --part1_11d.1e1f294f.2b713b5c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">What do you think the Firewire port they invented is for?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Give it up Dan... the raging ATEC PC motherboard we got recently for home consumption comes w/ Firewire... we left off one step south of Blue Tooth -- nothing like a LITTLE bit of protection! The good news??? The Mboard won't play games published by MS due to some bios conflict or other. I suppose 10 hours and two weeks and we might figure out how to install the correct patch.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_11d.1e1f294f.2b713b5c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:54:16 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c5.48f7c68.2b713c28_boundary" --part1_1c5.48f7c68.2b713c28_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 10:51:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The Mboard won't play games published by MS due to some bios conflict or > other. Ken, You shouldn't be playing games, anyway. Corresponding with one's nearest and dearest Pinpals should be enough for anyone. Ralph --part1_1c5.48f7c68.2b713c28_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 10:51:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The Mboard won't play games published by MS due to some bios conflict or other.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Ken,<BR> <BR> You shouldn't be playing games, anyway. Corresponding with one's nearest and dearest Pinpals should be enough for anyone.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c5.48f7c68.2b713c28_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:55:29 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d.9051fb8.2b713c71_boundary" --part1_d.9051fb8.2b713c71_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you ever spilled boiling syrup on your hand? Ruth: Been there, done that. Early yout, pre-urban. ][<en --part1_d.9051fb8.2b713c71_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Have you ever spilled boiling syrup on your hand?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Ruth: Been there, done that. Early yout, pre-urban. ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_d.9051fb8.2b713c71_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:15:31 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: See, this is what all this water-cooler talk gets us!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9d.340918a1.2b714123_boundary" --part1_9d.340918a1.2b714123_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attritional lurkers? --part1_9d.340918a1.2b714123_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Attritional lurkers?</FONT></HTML> --part1_9d.340918a1.2b714123_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:55:29 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4e.172ea84c.2b714a81_boundary" --part1_4e.172ea84c.2b714a81_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm thinking od demonstrating, but just can't think of anything that I'm too strongly against at the moment. Bagpipe burning? I don't think we can handle it, though we are talking about axe throwing, rock throwing, and hanging people from the trees. You are also free to bring an ox and roast it. ][<en --part1_4e.172ea84c.2b714a81_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I'm thinking od demonstrating, but just can't think of anything that I'm too strongly against at the moment.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Bagpipe burning? I don't think we can handle it, though we are talking about axe throwing, rock throwing, and hanging people from the trees. You are also free to bring an ox and roast it.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_4e.172ea84c.2b714a81_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:20:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ee.f616dd.2b715067_boundary" --part1_1ee.f616dd.2b715067_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 11:59:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Bagpipe burning? I don't think we can handle it, though we are talking about > axe throwing, rock throwing, and hanging people from the trees. You are > also free to bring an ox and roast it. > Burning is too good for any bagpipe I ever heard. Axe throwing is not on the list of activities approved when I got my Tote N Chip, and I don't think that even in this permissive age, it would be now. Rock throwing, however, is an honorable activity in which I engaged regularly as a yout'. Hanging people from trees should also be omitted from the honeydew list. And now we come to the bringing and roasting of an ox. If the ox were shod, the Feds would want it to take off it's shoes, and on some airlines, one would have to buy more than one seat, if it were a large (or even standard, and maybe even just a small) one, which might make for a certain ineconomy. Plus there's the matter of shrinkage, in which you would have to pay for a certain amount of weight which wouldn't be included in the "final" roastable weight. Then there are the problems of butchering an ox, in which case one should consult that lady in the New Yorker who designs humane slaughterhouses. And lastly, who has a barn in which to hang the roasted ox head? I think you should forget about this activity, but since I probably won't come anyway, do what you want. Ralph --part1_1ee.f616dd.2b715067_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 11:59:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Bagpipe burning? I don't think we can handle it, though we are talking about axe throwing, rock throwing, and hanging people from the trees. You are also free to bring an ox and roast it.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Burning is too good for any bagpipe I ever heard. Axe throwing is not on the list of activities approved when I got my Tote N Chip, and I don't think that even in this permissive age, it would be now. Rock throwing, however, is an honorable activity in which I engaged regularly as a yout'. Hanging people from trees should also be omitted from the honeydew list. <BR> <BR> And now we come to the bringing and roasting of an ox. If the ox were shod, the Feds would want it to take off it's shoes, and on some airlines, one would have to buy more than one seat, if it were a large (or even standard, and maybe even just a small) one, which might make for a certain ineconomy. Plus there's the matter of shrinkage, in which you would have to pay for a certain amount of weight which wouldn't be included in the "final" roastable weight. Then there are the problems of butchering an ox, in which case one should consult that lady in the New Yorker who designs humane slaughterhouses. And lastly, who has a barn in which to hang the roasted ox head? I think you should forget about this activity, but since I probably won't come anyway, do what you want. <BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1ee.f616dd.2b715067_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:32:58 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 12:20:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > And now we come to the bringing and roasting of an ox. If the ox were shod, the Feds would want it to take off it's shoes, and on some airlines, one would have to buy more than one seat, if it were a large (or even standard, and maybe even just a small) one, which might make for a certain ineconomy. Plus there's the matter of shrinkage, in which you would have to pay for a certain amount of weight which wouldn't be included in the "final" roastable weight. Then there are the problems of butchering an ox, in which case one should consult that lady in the New Yorker who designs humane slaughterhouses. And lastly, who has a barn in which to hang the roasted ox head? Ralph, you want fries with that? V.I. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:36:25 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_64.2c1dbbca.2b715419_boundary" --part1_64.2c1dbbca.2b715419_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 12:33:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ralph, you want fries with that? Curly fries, with a lot of salt. Things a little slow down at Pokorny's, that you're taking lunch orders? Ralph --part1_64.2c1dbbca.2b715419_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 12:33:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ralph, you want fries with that?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Curly fries, with a lot of salt. Things a little slow down at Pokorny's, that you're taking lunch orders?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_64.2c1dbbca.2b715419_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:44:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a3.393b0881.2b7155fc_boundary" --part1_a3.393b0881.2b7155fc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And lastly, who has a barn in which to hang the roasted ox head? They got barns on site... check the ptn website for kool barns. As to tree hanging... it will be via rope excess technology... we are restricted to not do inspections -- so please refrain from asking us what we are looking at -- but we are allowed to plug a few woodpecker holes. ][<en --part1_a3.393b0881.2b7155fc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">And lastly, who has a barn in which to hang the roaste= d ox head? </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-= COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> They got barns on site... check the ptn website for kool barns. As to tree h= anging... it will be via rope excess technology... we are restricted to not=20= do inspections -- so please refrain from asking us what we are looking at --= but we are allowed to plug a few woodpecker holes.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_a3.393b0881.2b7155fc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:46:17 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:31:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Twy, > > If Patty Hearst told you you had a nice body, would you > hold it against her? > > Symbionic Ralph Is this the beginning of a soap joke? Symbiotic Mike -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:49:03 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:54:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > She's always been too old for me. Yeah, John, but have your ever seen the shot of her with the AK47? O-o-o-o-h, better than the RIDGID catalogue. Twy. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:53:31 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 7:59:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Perhaps she's become a preservationeer! Funny you should ask. We're restoring a mill for the Open Space Institute (has nothing to do with my cranial real estate) near Garrison, and I have personally had two Tanya sitings. First I thought I was going nuts, then was informed by a local that she has purchased a house nearby. Get the Cybercam! Herb Caen -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:55:58 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 11:55:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Bagpipe burning? May you be struck down by a herds-worth of Midlothian oysters. O'Twybil -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:00:30 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_19b.104ba917.2b7159be_boundary" --part1_19b.104ba917.2b7159be_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 12:47:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >Twy, > > > >If Patty Hearst told you you had a nice body, would you > >hold it against her? > > > >Symbionic Ralph > > Is this the beginning of a soap joke? > > Symbiotic Mike > SyMike, No. And I didn't get the soap joke reference, either. Maybe I'm having another ministroke, or they cut more than my throat. Ralph --part1_19b.104ba917.2b7159be_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 12:47:05 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">>Twy,<BR> ><BR> >If Patty Hearst told you you had a nice body, would you<BR> >hold it against her?<BR> ><BR> >Symbionic Ralph<BR> <BR> Is this the beginning of a soap joke?<BR> <BR> Symbiotic Mike<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> SyMike,<BR> <BR> No. And I didn't get the soap joke reference, either. Maybe I'm=20= having another ministroke, or they cut more than my throat.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_19b.104ba917.2b7159be_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:10:32 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_40.2b2321fb.2b715c18_boundary" --part1_40.2b2321fb.2b715c18_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 12:54:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Funny you should ask. We're restoring a mill for the Open Space Institute > (has nothing to do with my cranial real estate) near Garrison, and I have > personally had two Tanya sitings. Did she have the AK 47 and the beret? > First I thought I was going nuts , then was informed by a local that she > has purchased a house nearby Didn't it occur to you that maybe the local > was just trying to make you feel better? Get the Cybercam! No thanks. > She's got enough money that she can get her own. Ralph --part1_40.2b2321fb.2b715c18_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 12:54:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Funny you should ask. We're restoring a mill for the Open Space Institute (has nothing to do with my cranial real estate) near Garrison, and I have personally had two Tanya sitings. <B>Did she have the AK 47 and the beret?</B> First I thought I was going nuts , then was informed by a local that she has purchased a house nearby <B>Didn't it occur to you that maybe the local was just trying to make you feel better?</B> Get the Cybercam! <B>No thanks. She's got enough money that she can get her own.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><B>Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_40.2b2321fb.2b715c18_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:20:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: I feel like I'm at a desert outpost in the French Foreign ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_185.165457e7.2b715e80_boundary" --part1_185.165457e7.2b715e80_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...Legion. Gradually, like Arabs sweeping over colonial outposts in the Sahara, New York Telephone (or whatever it is now) is gradually blocking access to local numbers by just using the conventional seven digits. One by one, any attempt to call the old way is met by an fast, angry beep. Now I'm down to just a few exchanges - 556-, 427-, LE4-, 799- and a handful of others. Soon, it will be all over - there will be no one left. Tell them ... tell them we died gallantly. This may be my last transm --part1_185.165457e7.2b715e80_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">...Legion. Gradually, like Arabs sweeping over colonial outposts in the Sahara, New York Telephone (or whatever it is now) is gradually blocking access to local numbers by just using the conventional seven digits. One by one, any attempt to call the old way is met by an fast, angry beep. <BR> <BR>Now I'm down to just a few exchanges - 556-, 427-, LE4-, 799- and a handful of others. Soon, it will be all over - there will be no one left. Tell them ... tell them we died gallantly. <BR> <BR>This may be my last transm </FONT></HTML> --part1_185.165457e7.2b715e80_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:42:59 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I feel like I'm at a desert outpost in the French Foreign ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c.90c29e1.2b7163b3_boundary" --part1_c.90c29e1.2b7163b3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 1:21:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Tell them ... tell them we died gallantly. > Howzabout we just tell them you stopped dialing several years ago, and have just been pushing buttons and more buttons, until their scabrous digits overwhelmed your leprous digits. Talk about studying dramatics with Douglas Macarthur. I'd rather have my throat slit and my heart ripped out. Ralph --part1_c.90c29e1.2b7163b3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 1:21:27 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> Tell them ... tell them we died gallantly. <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Howzabout we just tell them you stopped dialing several years ago, and have=20= just been pushing buttons and more buttons, until their scabrous digit= s overwhelmed your leprous digits.<BR> <BR> Talk about studying dramatics with Douglas Macarthur. I'd rather have=20= my throat slit and my heart ripped out.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_c.90c29e1.2b7163b3_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:52:10 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed " > >Ralph > >PS-- Why do you think I gave up shaving? I now leave it to my barber, >another unfortunately-named Nick. But my Nick's a spaghetti bender, unlike >you Greeks who'll bend anything. On the other hand, Mr. Kay, who used to >be >my barber, was Greek. But he's dead. And now I'm not the concierge, the >barber, or a madam. But I have seen The Producers (both versions); the >movie >was better. Mr. Ralph: I come from a long line of benders so you better watch your NJ ass! Oh, and by the way, I heard just who appeared to you in a dream. This sent shivers down my spine. What did he actually say and do? Was he naked? If I were a praying man, I would pray for you. Nick _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:54:06 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters >Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:55:29 EST > >I'm thinking od demonstrating, but just can't think of anything that I'm >too >strongly against at the moment. > >Bagpipe burning? I don't think we can handle it, though we are talking >about >axe throwing, rock throwing, and hanging people from the trees. You are >also >free to bring an ox and roast it. > >][<en I would like to give a demonstration on how to give a demonstration. Nick _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:58:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c6.17e06d04.2b71673b_boundary" --part1_c6.17e06d04.2b71673b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If Patty Hearst told you you had a nice body, would you hold it against her? If you all want to know how Patty Hearst looks these days then pick up a DVD of John Water's film Cecil B. Demented. Though, seriously, if I had to hold close I'd pick Alicia Witt, though Melanie is a close second. Patty is just a bit TOO much middle class and matronly for my taste. Then again, Ralph only likes Mozart and Twybill w/ his pipe & bags really needs a utili-kilt and a box of chocolates. ][<en --part1_c6.17e06d04.2b71673b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">If Patty Hearst told you you had a nice body, would yo= u hold it against her?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> If you all want to know how Patty Hearst looks these days then pick up a DVD= of John Water's film Cecil B. Demented. Though, seriously, if I had to hold= close I'd pick Alicia Witt, though Melanie is a close second. Patty is just= a bit TOO much middle class and matronly for my taste. Then again, Ralph on= ly likes Mozart and Twybill w/ his pipe & bags really needs a utili-kilt= and a box of chocolates.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_c6.17e06d04.2b71673b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:59:33 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_178.1639a79c.2b716795_boundary" --part1_178.1639a79c.2b716795_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First I thought I was going nuts... They do say first thing to a cure is recognition of a problem. ;-) --part1_178.1639a79c.2b716795_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">First I thought I was going nuts...</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> They do say first thing to a cure is recognition of a problem. ;-)</FONT></H= TML> --part1_178.1639a79c.2b716795_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:02:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I feel like I'm at a desert outpost in the French Foreign ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12f.222bcfaf.2b716844_boundary" --part1_12f.222bcfaf.2b716844_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This may be my last transm Shapshooter experiences a Columbia moment? --part1_12f.222bcfaf.2b716844_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">This may be my last transm </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><= FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Shapshooter experiences a Columbia moment?</FONT></HTML> --part1_12f.222bcfaf.2b716844_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:04:08 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e0.1168ecd.2b7168a8_boundary" --part1_1e0.1168ecd.2b7168a8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, and by the way, I heard just who appeared to you in a dream. No need to fear... the spectre was allergic to the blade and could not shave. ][<en --part1_1e0.1168ecd.2b7168a8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Oh, and by the way, I heard just who appeared to you i= n a dream. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> No need to fear... the spectre was allergic to the blade and could not shave= . ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e0.1168ecd.2b7168a8_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:12:32 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ab.28f80498.2b716aa0_boundary" --part1_ab.28f80498.2b716aa0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 1:54:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I come from a long line of benders so you better watch your NJ ass! I'm not worried. It's nearly as distateful as the dream ass. > > Oh, and by the way, I heard just who appeared to you in a dream. Nothing > like spreading the good word, huh? This sent shivers down my spine. That's > pretty good: a dream that occurred in New Jersey sends shivers down > somebody else's spine in Switzerland, several days later. What did he > actually say and do? I don't remember that he said anything, and all he did > (other than ignoring my attempted greeting [who says dreams have to make > sense?] ) was to walk away from me down a long corridor. Was he naked? No, > thank God. Wearing a black suit was disturbing enough. If I were a praying > man, I would pray for you. Thanks. I feel better now. I'm not sure I > want anybody praying for me, especially Greeks. Ralph PS--I think this should be retitled horseshit in my soup. --part1_ab.28f80498.2b716aa0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 1:54:34 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I come from a long line of bend= ers so you better watch your NJ ass!</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000= 000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>I'm not worried. It= 's nearly as distateful as the dream ass.</B><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> Oh, and by the way, I heard just who appeared to you in a dream. <B>Nothing=20= like spreading the good word, huh? </B>This sent shivers down my spine. <B>T= hat's pretty good: a dream that occurred in New Jersey sends shivers down so= mebody else's spine in Switzerland, several days later.</B> What did he actu= ally say and do? <B>I don't remember that he said anything, and all he did (= other than ignoring my attempted greeting [who says dreams have to make sens= e?] ) was to walk away from me down a long corridor. </B>Was he naked? <B>No= , thank God. Wearing a black suit was disturbing enough.</B> If I were= a praying man, I would pray for you. <B>Thanks. I feel better n= ow. I'm not sure I want anybody praying for me, especially Greeks.</BL= OCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"= SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Ralph<BR> <BR> PS--I think this should be retitled horseshit in my soup.</B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_ab.28f80498.2b716aa0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:14:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f6.282ef606.2b716b20_boundary" --part1_f6.282ef606.2b716b20_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 1:58:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I would like to give a demonstration on how to give a demonstration. > We could show these pro-Iraq whippersnappers a thing or two, couldn't we? Love Europe or stay there, I always say. Ralph --part1_f6.282ef606.2b716b20_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 1:58:28 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I would like to give a demonstr= ation on how to give a demonstration.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> We could show these pro-Iraq whippersnappers a thing or two, couldn't we?<BR= > <BR> Love Europe or stay there, I always say.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_f6.282ef606.2b716b20_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:15:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_180.15a8ee34.2b716b6d_boundary" --part1_180.15a8ee34.2b716b6d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 1:59:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Then again, Ralph only likes Mozart and Twybill w/ his pipe &bags really > needs a utili-kilt and a box of chocolates. > Hey, I like chocolate, too! Ralph --part1_180.15a8ee34.2b716b6d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 1:59:10 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Then again, Ralph only likes Mo= zart and Twybill w/ his pipe &bags really needs a utili-kilt and a box o= f chocolates.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Hey, I like chocolate, too!<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_180.15a8ee34.2b716b6d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:15:54 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? >Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:04:08 EST > >Oh, and by the way, I heard just who appeared to you in a dream. > >No need to fear... the spectre was allergic to the blade and could not >shave. >][<en Poetry cuts like a knife _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:18:43 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >We could show these pro-Iraq whippersnappers a thing or two, couldn't we? > >Love Europe or stay there, I always say. > >Ralph You think its easy bein an Ameriken ova here or what! Listen, its 8:17 PM here and I gotta go to sleep _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:19:19 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_97.33a4dacb.2b716c37_boundary" --part1_97.33a4dacb.2b716c37_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to give a demonstration on how to give a demonstration. Nick: Seriously? I brought this up at our recent meeting, the need for a demonstration on demonstrations. We have a policy of whomever brings up a need has to take care of their own suggestion. I think I was asked if I would volunteer to demonstrate on myself. Besides, I'm now known as the official "disseminator". Problem is they won't let me change my clothes, though we will have a mud pit, I think. Officially there will be no drinking of beer so I'm not sure why there will be so many beer tents and what all the kegs are for. Possibly one of my fellow disseminators will be able to clarify the point back channel. I suggested we hold a Yokel Ono bed-in, "We won't get out of bed until all of the developers are hung and the old buildings are satisfied!" There is always room for two or one more. Let me know if you are volunteering. I'd rather spend my time working on a business session, "Dilbert and the 36 Strategems". ][<en --part1_97.33a4dacb.2b716c37_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I would like to give a demonstration on how to give a=20= demonstration.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Nick: Seriously? I brought this up at our recent meeting, the need for a dem= onstration on demonstrations. We have a policy of whomever brings up a need=20= has to take care of their own suggestion. I think I was asked if I would vol= unteer to demonstrate on myself. Besides, I'm now known as the official "dis= seminator". Problem is they won't let me change my clothes, though we will h= ave a mud pit, I think. Officially there will be no drinking of beer so I'm=20= not sure why there will be so many beer tents and what all the kegs are for.= Possibly one of my fellow disseminators will be able to clarify the point b= ack channel. I suggested we hold a Yokel Ono bed-in, "We won't get out of be= d until all of the developers are hung and the old buildings are satisfied!"= There is always room for two or one more. Let me know if you are volunteeri= ng. I'd rather spend my time working on a business session, "Dilbert and the= 36 Strategems". ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_97.33a4dacb.2b716c37_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:27:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_117.1e9ec219.2b716e35_boundary" --part1_117.1e9ec219.2b716e35_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:16:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Poetry cuts like a knife > Does it leave spalls and chips? Or fish and chips? Or nicks in knickers? Ralph --part1_117.1e9ec219.2b716e35_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:16:35 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Poetry cuts like a knife<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Does it leave spalls and chips? Or fish and chips? Or nicks in knicker= s?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_117.1e9ec219.2b716e35_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:29:37 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_28.32fe94ea.2b716ea1_boundary" --part1_28.32fe94ea.2b716ea1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:19:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You think its easy bein an Ameriken ova here or what! Listen, its 8:17 PM > here and I gotta go to sleep > Nick, We appreciate the fine work you do on our behalf. Don't we, boys and girls? Whassamatta, they roll up the streets on you? It's 2:29 and I think I'll take a nap. Ralph --part1_28.32fe94ea.2b716ea1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:19:27 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You think its easy bein an Amer= iken ova here or what! Listen, its 8:17 PM<BR> here and I gotta go to sleep<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Nick,<BR> <BR> We appreciate the fine work you do on our behalf. Don't we, boys and girls?=20= Whassamatta, they roll up the streets on you?<BR> <BR> It's 2:29 and I think I'll take a nap.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_28.32fe94ea.2b716ea1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:32:54 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a8.17d8a638.2b716f66_boundary" --part1_a8.17d8a638.2b716f66_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:19:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > "We won't get out of bed until all of the developers are hung and the old > buildings are satisfied!" Whether the developers are hung or not, they always seem to behave like they have big clanging brass balls. But I'd like to see them seriously squeezed sometime. Ralph --part1_a8.17d8a638.2b716f66_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:19:44 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">"We won't get out of bed until=20= all of the developers are hung and the old buildings are satisfied!" </BLOCK= QUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SI= ZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Whether the developers are hung or not, they always seem to behave like they= have big clanging brass balls. But I'd like to see them seriously squ= eezed sometime.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_a8.17d8a638.2b716f66_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:35:22 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_104.26767756.2b716ffa_boundary" --part1_104.26767756.2b716ffa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PS--I think this should be retitled horseshit in my soup. Ralph, We REALLY are having a problem w/ the anti-spam & anti-filthy language filters. Please use a lot of creative license and invent previously unthought of phrases. This should be retitled: Good Luck Horsepatties in my soup? ][<en --part1_104.26767756.2b716ffa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>PS--I think this should be retitled horseshit in my= soup.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR= : #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ralph,<BR> <BR> We REALLY are having a problem w/ the anti-spam & anti-filthy language f= ilters. Please use a lot of creative license and invent previously unthought= of phrases.<BR> <BR> This should be retitled: Good Luck Horsepatties in my soup?<BR> <BR> ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_104.26767756.2b716ffa_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:36:46 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1f1.f7d0f6.2b71704e_boundary" --part1_1f1.f7d0f6.2b71704e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, I like chocolate, too! Talk about weird dreams! --part1_1f1.f7d0f6.2b71704e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Hey, I like chocolate, too!<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Talk about weird dreams!<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1f1.f7d0f6.2b71704e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:39:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_18c.15ae0041.2b717107_boundary" --part1_18c.15ae0041.2b717107_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:35:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > We REALLY are having a problem w/ the anti-spam &anti-filthy language > filters. Please use a lot of creative license and invent previously > unthought of phrases. > > This should be retitled: Good Luck Horsepatties in my soup? > Will do. Do I need to worry about York peppermint patties? Ralph --part1_18c.15ae0041.2b717107_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:35:56 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">We REALLY are having a problem=20= w/ the anti-spam &anti-filthy language filters. Please use a lot of crea= tive license and invent previously unthought of phrases.<BR> <BR> This should be retitled: Good Luck Horsepatties in my soup?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Will do. Do I need to worry about York peppermint patties?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_18c.15ae0041.2b717107_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:41:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Chocolate Puckey Patties MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_67.9094350.2b717180_boundary" --part1_67.9094350.2b717180_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:37:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Hey, I like chocolate, too! > > > Talk about weird dreams! > Compared to Marty, there's nothing weird about chocolate. In any sense. Ralph --part1_67.9094350.2b717180_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:37:34 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hey, I like chocolate, too!<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Talk about weird dreams!<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Compared to Marty, there's n= othing weird about chocolate. In any sense.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_67.9094350.2b717180_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:50:07 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >We appreciate the fine work you do on our behalf. Don't we, boys and girls? >Whassamatta, they roll up the streets on you? > >It's 2:29 and I think I'll take a nap. > >Ralph Ralph: No problem, its the least I can do for my country. Your keepin me awake, the fresh mountain air puts you to bed early. PS Living about 30 minutes from the home base of old Dr. Carl Jung, and my blessed GREEK grandma being a bonafied dream interpreter, I feel bold enough to venture a guess that the scurvy contractor who disturbed your good nights sleep, and gave me the transcontinental time delayed shivers, symbolized non other than the grim reaper himself. Yes thats right, the blacksuited, no talking, hall walking sonofab was mortality's twin. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:09:11 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_75.90c20ea.2b7177e7_boundary" --part1_75.90c20ea.2b7177e7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:52:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > PS Living about 30 minutes from the home base of old Dr. Carl Jung, and my > blessed GREEK grandma being a bonafied dream interpreter, I feel bold > enough > to venture a guess that the scurvy contractor who disturbed your good > nights > sleep, and gave me the transcontinental time delayed shivers, symbolized > non > other than the grim reaper himself. Yes thats right, the blacksuited, no > talking, hall walking sonofab was mortality's twin. > Nick, Most interesting. However, my nights' sleep have not been good for a long time. On the other hand, they haven't been so bad as to include him, which I have to admit is a new low in sleep disorders. What are we to make of the fact (so to speak) that I was excited to hear that he was nearby, and I wanted to greet him; that he turned his back on me and walked away, and I was disappointed that he wouldn't acknowledge me? Do you think I should stop taking long walks on dark railroad tracks when I can't sleep? It really is a most interesting interpretation. Maybe you should quick nicking, spalling and chipping stone and go over to something really lucrative, if slightly less dishonest. Ralph --part1_75.90c20ea.2b7177e7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 2:52:32 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">PS Living about 30 minutes from= the home base of old Dr. Carl Jung, and my<BR> blessed GREEK grandma being a bonafied dream interpreter, I feel bold enough= <BR> to venture a guess that the scurvy contractor who disturbed your good nights= <BR> sleep, and gave me the transcontinental time delayed shivers, symbolized non= <BR> other than the grim reaper himself. Yes thats right, the blacksuited, no<BR> talking, hall walking sonofab was mortality's twin.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Nick,<BR> <BR> <U>Most</U> interesting. However, my nights' sleep have not been good=20= for a long time. On the other hand, they haven't been so bad as to inc= lude <U>him,</U> which I have to admit is a new low in sleep disorders.<BR> <BR> What are we to make of the fact (so to speak) that I was excited to hear tha= t he was nearby, and I wanted to greet him; that he turned his back on me an= d walked away, and I was disappointed that he wouldn't acknowledge me? = Do you think I should stop taking long walks on dark railroad tracks=20= when I can't sleep?<BR> <BR> It really is a most interesting interpretation. Maybe you should quick= nicking, spalling and chipping stone and go over to something really lucrat= ive, if slightly less dishonest.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_75.90c20ea.2b7177e7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:14:18 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C2CC60.17707D50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C2CC60.17707D50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Does it leave spalls and chips? Or fish and chips? Or nicks in knickers? Ralph<< Is THAT what they sell at Long John Slivers? Rude ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C2CC60.17707D50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2CC60.16680E00"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial = FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><br> <font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>>></span></font>Does = it leave spalls and chips? Or fish and chips? Or nicks in knickers?<br> <br> Ralph<font color=3Dnavy><span = style=3D'color:navy'><<</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is THAT what they sell at Long John Slivers?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rude<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C2CC60.17707D50-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:39:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ed.f98ff7.2b717f0b_boundary" --part1_1ed.f98ff7.2b717f0b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 3:15:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Is THAT what they sell at Long John Slivers? > > > Rude > I don't think you want to know what they sell at Long John Salivers, as Dead John Lennon used to say. Meanwhile, I just saw you (all right, it was your name, but what the heck) in the Histo Presto Balto thingie that came in the mail! Ralph --part1_1ed.f98ff7.2b717f0b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 3:15:33 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Is THAT what they sell at Long John Slivers?</FONT><FONT C= OLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANS= SERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SI= ZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Rude</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#= 000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FA= CE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I don't think you want to know what they sell at Long John Salivers, as Dead= John Lennon used to say. Meanwhile, I just saw you (all right, it was= your name, but what the heck) in the Histo Presto Balto thingie that came i= n the mail!<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1ed.f98ff7.2b717f0b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:38:52 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crazy women with guns are a real turn off. But hey, that's just me. I remember the shot well. Consistancy is not my strong point, but the interveneing years do not seem to have changed my opinion. She and her friends, (including Mrs. Olsen from down the road a piece), were self centered thrill seeking lunatics. Murder, bank robbery and kidnapping was not a promising avenue for growing a Revolution...or even for making some worthwhile changes. But hey! You go right ahead! Do your thing man! -jc On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 11:49 AM, Mike Devonshire wrote: > In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:54:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > >> She's always been too old for me. > > Yeah, John, but have your ever seen the shot of her with the AK47? > O-o-o-o-h, better than the RIDGID catalogue. > > Twy. > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:40:40 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Hammarberg, Eric" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Masonry Cement or PCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Folks, I am trying to find out why masonry cement (MC) is on the market when portland cement / lime (PCL) mortars appear, at least to me, to perform better and more reliably? As many of us know, MC is typically a mix of portland cement, pulverized limestone and "proprietary admixtures" which manufacturers seldom (never) will divulge. PCL is portland cement and lime, period. Can anybody shed light on this for me? Thanks, Eric Hammarberg Still Director of Preservation Associate Still at LZA Technology 641 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10011-2014 Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct) Mobile: 917.439.3537 Fax: 917.661.8161 (Direct) email: [log in to unmask] <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The information in this email and any attachments may contain confidential information that is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this message. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:10:06 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes in my soup? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2CC70.45221460" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2CC70.45221460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Meanwhile, I just saw you (all right, it was your name, but what the heck) in the Histo Presto Balto thingie that came in the mail! Ralph<< Yep. Time to baffle 'em wif BS in Balto! Rudy ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2CC70.45221460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2CC70.43AD27A0"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial = FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;background:white'>= >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black;background:white'>Meanwhile, I just saw you (all right, it = was your name, but what the heck) in the Histo Presto Balto thingie that came in = the mail!<br> <br> Ralph</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;background:white'><<<o:p></o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yep. Time to baffle ‘em wif = BS in Balto!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rudy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2CC70.45221460-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:14:49 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2CC70.ED359370" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2CC70.ED359370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Have you ever spilled boiling syrup on your hand? Ruth: Been there, done that. Early yout, pre-urban. ][<en<< Worse yet when you spill it on your sweetheart's hand while she's holding the jar, cheesecloth and funnel! Talk about feeling like a real fecal formation! Rudy ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2CC70.ED359370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2CC70.EC2BC490"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman" FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>>></span></= font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Have you ever spilled boiling syrup on your hand?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><br> Ruth: Been there, done that. Early yout, pre-urban. <span = class=3DGramE>][</span><en<font color=3Dnavy><span = style=3D'color:navy'><<</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Worse yet when you spill it on your sweetheart’s hand while she’s = holding the jar, cheesecloth and funnel!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Talk about feeling like a real fecal formation!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Rudy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2CC70.ED359370-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:01:44 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_196.152d8b32.2b71ae68_boundary" --part1_196.152d8b32.2b71ae68_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 12:36:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Things a little slow down at Pokorny's, that you're taking lunch orders? > Nope, just becoming a full service firm. --part1_196.152d8b32.2b71ae68_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 12:36:48 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> Things a little slow down at P= okorny's, that you're taking lunch orders?<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Nope, just becoming a full service firm.<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_196.152d8b32.2b71ae68_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:04:17 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Leeke <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cuyler writes: "Question: Does anyone know of a tradition of placing a Good Luck = Horseshoe below the threshold of a new building? " No, but I did learn a certian good luck doorway charm from the old Czech carpenters of northern Nebraska prairie settlement days. (Well, maybe I actually learned it from their sons.) : You take a little handful of winter wheat from the shock, soak it in the stock tank for a few minutes and braid six stocks into a little plait with three heads of grain sticking out on each end, the whole affair is about 6-8" long. Then you say a little verse as every one at hand touches the plait and then you tuck it in the space above the door frame header just before you nail on the casings. Wish I could remember the verse. It was in Czech, and the only Czech I remember is what's for dinner. John Leeke -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:05:27 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_20.919d08c.2b71d977_boundary" --part1_20.919d08c.2b71d977_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 8:04:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Wish I could remember the verse. It was in Czech, > and the only Czech I remember is what's for dinner. > John, Did it include the word "Nantucket?" Trying to be helpful, as always. Ralph --part1_20.919d08c.2b71d977_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 8:04:57 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Wish I could remember the verse= . It was in Czech,<BR> and the only Czech I remember is what's for dinner.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> John,<BR> <BR> Did it include the word "Nantucket?"<BR> <BR> Trying to be helpful, as always.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_20.919d08c.2b71d977_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:51:17 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, Sounds like a wonderful appeasement to the mice. cp in bc where we use electronic pest chasers with great success ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Leeke" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: Good Luck Horseshoes? > Cuyler writes: > "Question: Does anyone know of a tradition of placing a Good Luck = > Horseshoe below the threshold of a new building? > " > > No, but I did learn a certian good luck doorway charm from the old Czech > carpenters of northern Nebraska prairie settlement days. (Well, maybe I > actually learned it from their sons.) : > > You take a little handful of winter wheat from the shock, soak it in the > stock tank for a few minutes and braid six stocks into a little plait with > three heads of grain sticking out on each end, the whole affair is about > 6-8" long. Then you say a little verse as every one at hand touches the > plait and then you tuck it in the space above the door frame header just > before > you nail on the casings. Wish I could remember the verse. It was in Czech, > and the only Czech I remember is what's for dinner. > > John Leeke > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:18:10 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4c.17a916c0.2b71dc72_boundary" --part1_4c.17a916c0.2b71dc72_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 10:11:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > John, > Sounds like a wonderful appeasement to the mice. > A much better use of resources than throwing virgins into volcanoes, too. Ralph --part1_4c.17a916c0.2b71dc72_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 10:11:15 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">John,<BR> Sounds like a wonderful appeasement to the mice.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> A much better use of resources than throwing virgins into volcanoes, too.<BR= > <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_4c.17a916c0.2b71dc72_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:40:38 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Well, Ralph, I guess.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a3.394699f5.2b71e1b6_boundary" --part1_a3.394699f5.2b71e1b6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 10:19:04 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: > A much better use of resources than throwing virgins into volcanoes, too. > Ralph ...you would know. Sign me, Krakatoa --part1_a3.394699f5.2b71e1b6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 10:19:04 PM, [log in to unmask] OM writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A much better use of resources=20= than throwing virgins into volcanoes, too. Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> ...you would know. Sign me, Krakatoa</FO= NT></HTML> --part1_a3.394699f5.2b71e1b6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:50:44 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Well, Ralph, I guess.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_de.338be187.2b71e414_boundary" --part1_de.338be187.2b71e414_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 10:41:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >> A much better use of resources than throwing virgins into volcanoes, too. >> Ralph > > ...you would know. Sign me, Krakatoa I was speaking on a theoretical basis, but even then, when you're right, you're right. Ralph --part1_de.338be187.2b71e414_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 10:41:24 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style= =3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PAD= DING-LEFT: 5px">A much better use of resources than throwing virgins into vo= lcanoes, too. Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND= -COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </= BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> ...you would know. Sign me, Krakatoa</FO= NT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAM= ILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I was speaking on a theoreti= cal basis, but even then, when you're right, you're right.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_de.338be187.2b71e414_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:52:15 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "S. Stokowski" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Masonry Cement or PCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_36.385ccf68.2b71e46f_boundary" --part1_36.385ccf68.2b71e46f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric: Masonry cement is a mixture of Portland cement, mineral filler, and other components. The mineral filler is usually limestone powder. It can be other things, such as diatomaceous earth, ground basalt, ground feldspar, ground quartz, etc. The "other components" that I allude to, if included, are usually hydrated lime, an air-entraining agent, and in some situations an anti-cake agent. Calcined bentonite and calcined kaolin clays have also been used. During the manufacture of masonry cement the Portland cement and the limestone powder are usually mixed and interground in a ball mill. The Portland cement becomes finer, more reactive, and more effective. Limestone is the usual mineral filler because it does not cause excessive wear on the ball mill. The approximate proportions for Type N masonry cement are 45% Portland cement, 45% pulverized limestone, and 10% hydrated lime. In manufacturing practice, the proportions are adjusted to a happy medium between workability, ASTM C-270 strength, and RMC (raw materials cost). It has not been my experience that the manufacturers will not divulge the composition of their product. However, the sales force usually does not have this information in their memory, although if you read the MSDS you can get a good qualitative idea. The MSDS usually doesn't tell you the admixtures, but they really aren't that difficult to identify with $10 worth of labor and $20,000 worth of knowledge. The quantitative proportions are usually only known to the lab and production guys. And to guys like me who reverse engineer and develop these products. Masonry cement is on the market because it is a profitable product that performs well. It is primarily a bagged product. As such, it has a major advantage over bagged Portland cement/hydrated lime mixtures; it cakes less. That is primarily because of the interground mineral filler. Masonry cement is also less expensive and has a couple of purely technical advantages. If an air entrainer is used, the resulting mortar has enhanced frost resistance. If the mineral filler is limestone, the masonry-cement mortar also has more acid resistance because of the reactivity of the pulverized limestone with acids. There are also more nebulous advantages related to masonry cement being a relatively "Green" product. Steve Stokowski Stone Products Consultants Building Products Microscopy 10 Clark St., Ste. A Ashland, Mass. 01721-2145 508-881-6364 (ph. & fax) <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm">http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm</A> ****************************************************** In a message dated 2/4/03 4:41:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I am trying to find out why masonry cement (MC) is on the market when > portland cement / lime (PCL) mortars appear, at least to me, to perform > better and more reliably? > > As many of us know, MC is typically a mix of portland cement, pulverized > limestone and "proprietary admixtures" which manufacturers seldom (never) > will divulge. PCL is portland cement and lime, period. > > Can anybody shed light on this for me? > > --part1_36.385ccf68.2b71e46f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Eric:<BR> <BR> Masonry cement is a mixture of Portland cement, mineral filler, and other co= mponents. The mineral filler is usually limestone powder. It can= be other things, such as diatomaceous earth, ground basalt, ground feldspar= , ground quartz, etc. The "other components" that I allude to, if incl= uded, are usually hydrated lime, an air-entraining agent, and in some situat= ions an anti-cake agent. Calcined bentonite and calcined kaolin clays=20= have also been used. During the manufacture of masonry cement the Port= land cement and the limestone powder are usually mixed and interground in a=20= ball mill. The Portland cement becomes finer, more reactive, and more=20= effective. Limestone is the usual mineral filler because it does not c= ause excessive wear on the ball mill. The approximate proportions for=20= Type N masonry cement are 45% Portland cement, 45% pulverized limestone, and= 10% hydrated lime. In manufacturing practice, the proportions are adj= usted to a happy medium between workability, ASTM C-270 strength, and RMC (r= aw materials cost).<BR> <BR> It has not been my experience that the manufacturers will not divulge the co= mposition of their product. However, the sales force usually does not=20= have this information in their memory, although if you read the MSDS you can= get a good qualitative idea. The MSDS usually doesn't tell you the ad= mixtures, but they really aren't that difficult to identify with $10 worth o= f labor and $20,000 worth of knowledge. The quantitative proportions a= re usually only known to the lab and production guys. And to guys like= me who reverse engineer and develop these products.<BR> <BR> Masonry cement is on the market because it is a profitable product that perf= orms well. It is primarily a bagged product. As such, it has a m= ajor advantage over bagged Portland cement/hydrated lime mixtures; it cakes=20= less. That is primarily because of the interground mineral filler.&nbs= p; Masonry cement is also less expensive and has a couple of purely technica= l advantages. If an air entrainer is used, the resulting mortar has en= hanced frost resistance. If the mineral filler is limestone, the mason= ry-cement mortar also has more acid resistance because of the reactivity of=20= the pulverized limestone with acids. There are also more nebulous adva= ntages related to masonry cement being a relatively "Green" product.<BR> <BR> Steve Stokowski<BR> Stone Products Consultants<BR> Building Products Microscopy<BR> 10 Clark St., Ste. A<BR> Ashland, Mass. 01721-2145</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND= -COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR= > </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">508-881-6364 (ph. &= fax)<BR> <A HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm">http://members.aol.c= om/crushstone/petro.htm</A><BR> <BR> ******************************************************<BR> In a message dated 2/4/03 4:41:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, EHammarberg@LZAT= ECHNOLOGY.COM writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">I am trying to find out why masonry cement (MC) is on the m= arket when<BR> portland cement / lime (PCL) mortars appear, at least to me, to perform<BR> better and more reliably?<BR> <BR> As many of us know, MC is typically a mix of portland cement, pulverized<BR> limestone and "proprietary admixtures" which manufacturers seldom (never)<BR= > will divulge. PCL is portland cement and lime, period.<BR> <BR> Can anybody shed light on this for me?<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_36.385ccf68.2b71e46f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:00:18 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Well, Ralph, I guess.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1eb.103355d.2b71e652_boundary" --part1_1eb.103355d.2b71e652_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 10:41:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > A much better use of resources than throwing virgins into volcanoes, too. Depends on your perspective. Vesuvius --part1_1eb.103355d.2b71e652_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 10:41:24 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A much better use of resources=20= than throwing virgins into volcanoes, too. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000= 000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Depends on your perspective.<BR> <BR> Vesuvius</FONT></HTML> --part1_1eb.103355d.2b71e652_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:07:48 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Masonry Cement or PCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C2CCA2.3BE496C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C2CCA2.3BE496C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the info Steve. Being a basic wood guy, I now feel $19,999 = richer. cp in woody bc ----- Original Message -----=20 From: S. Stokowski=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: Re: Masonry Cement or PCL $20,000 worth of knowledge. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C2CCA2.3BE496C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the info Steve. = Being a=20 basic wood guy, I now feel $19,999 richer.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp in woody bc</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">S. = Stokowski</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 04, = 2003 7:52=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Masonry Cement or = PCL</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT">$20,000 worth of=20 knowledge.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C2CCA2.3BE496C0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:16:53 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, I'll probably be doing it again in a few weeks. Ruth At 10:55 AM -0500 2/4/03, Ken Follett wrote: Have you ever spilled boiling syrup on your hand? Ruth: Been there, done that. Early yout, pre-urban. ][<en -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:16:49 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Tap, tap, tap (was Brooklyn Standard Union) In-Reply-To: <a0431010dba665cab739b@[216.114.180.218]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ruth hopes: >>Well, I'll probably be doing it again in a few weeks.<< It sure makes it feel like winter is finally loosening its grip when its time to boil the spiles and find the really poorly made mallet from my high school shop class. It's our little tradition to use it to tap in the spiles. We started sugaring as a home school project (math, chemistry, botany and American history all rolled into one!) and never stopped. Can't wait! Rudy -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:28:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_19e.1075a1e5.2b7279a4_boundary" --part1_19e.1075a1e5.2b7279a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit where we use electronic pest chasers with great success cp, On a project for a house museum I was told about termite stations buried in the ground around the house that are somehow checked for activity & when there is activity the exterminators put poisons in the stations that are carried back to the nest. Do you know if these are electronic sensors, or does someone have to actually look in them? I'm curious... not looking for lunch. ][<en --part1_19e.1075a1e5.2b7279a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">where we use electronic pest chasers with great succes= s</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> cp,<BR> On a project for a house museum I was told about termite stations buried in=20= the ground around the house that are somehow checked for activity & when= there is activity the exterminators put poisons in the stations that are ca= rried back to the nest. Do you know if these are electronic sensors, or does= someone have to actually look in them? I'm curious... not looking for lunch= .<BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_19e.1075a1e5.2b7279a4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:37:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Masonry Cement or PCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ab.29017adb.2b727b93_boundary" --part1_ab.29017adb.2b727b93_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2003 7:53:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > During the manufacture of masonry cement the Portland cement and the > limestone powder are usually mixed and interground in a ball mill. As Portland cement is manufactured from limestone there is also apt to be a ready supply of limestone at hand to intermix at this stage of the process (quite likely from a nearby hole in the ground), the Portland having been already fired... correct me if I am wrong... prior to the addition of the unfired limestone. At $.02 per pound for Portland cement, as I believe is what I heard last I toured a plant, the margins are VERY tight and the need for efficiency of the manufacturing system very high. A great deal of computerized and automatic systems with concerns for energy consumption being a top priority. Every ounce of Portland cement directly represents BTU's expended in manufacture. The plant I toured used old tires as a fuel source. They also had a lot of state-of-the-art scrubbers on their chimneys. ][<en --part1_ab.29017adb.2b727b93_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/4/2003 7:53:06 PM Pacific Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">During the manufacture of masonry cement the Portland=20= cement and the limestone powder are usually mixed and interground in a ball=20= mill. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR= : #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> As Portland cement is manufactured from limestone there is also apt to be a=20= ready supply of limestone at hand to intermix at this stage of the process (= quite likely from a nearby hole in the ground), the Portland having been alr= eady fired... correct me if I am wrong... prior to the addition of the unfir= ed limestone. At $.02 per pound for Portland cement, as I believe is what I=20= heard last I toured a plant, the margins are VERY tight and the need for eff= iciency of the manufacturing system very high. A great deal of computerized=20= and automatic systems with concerns for energy consumption being a top prior= ity. Every ounce of Portland cement directly represents BTU's expended in ma= nufacture. The plant I toured used old tires as a fuel source. They also had= a lot of state-of-the-art scrubbers on their chimneys. ][<en</FONT></HTM= L> --part1_ab.29017adb.2b727b93_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:40:36 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Follett > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:29 AM >=20 >=20 > On a project for a house museum I was told about termite=20 > stations buried in the ground around the house that are=20 > somehow checked for activity & when there is activity the=20 > exterminators put poisons in the stations that are carried=20 > back to the nest. Do you know if these are electronic=20 > sensors, or does someone have to actually look in them?=20 I'll usurp this one. We have lots of experience with termites round about these southern parts. Not electronic...manual. Filled with regular tasty wood. Untreated. When you find that termites are gnawing on it, you put not so regular nasty to termites wood in the station. They take that stuff into the colony and decimate it. It's a dual system...you treat the building with chemicals as typical, then establish a perimeter early warning DEW line (cp in bc may know something about that too) to detect future incursions and repel them before they reach the building. Sign me,=20 Robot ants, robot ants They go up and down my pants With a knick-knack paddy-whack Give the dog a bone... Robot ants go marching home.=20 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:46:15 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tap, tap, tap (was Brooklyn Standard Union) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_28.330abe67.2b727db7_boundary" --part1_28.330abe67.2b727db7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We started sugaring as a home school project I suppose all the weird adventures my stepfather set us on may have comprised home schooling... though nobody said that at the time. My ONE adventure consisted of a season of work to produce one quart of syrup, and that on the backyard masonry barbeque pit. My preference, though, was when out on the paper route to simply take a sip of sap out of someone else's bucket. A nice cold sweet drink. Not that I would do so nowadays, a skinny kid will take advantages when it comes to sucking on trees. Farmer Locken eventually sold out to a housing developer and my favorite walking around land got taken over. ][<en --part1_28.330abe67.2b727db7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">We started sugaring as a home school project</BLOCKQUO= TE><BR> <BR> I suppose all the weird adventures my stepfather set us on may have comprise= d home schooling... though nobody said that at the time. My ONE adventure co= nsisted of a season of work to produce one quart of syrup, and that on the b= ackyard masonry barbeque pit. My preference, though, was when out on the pap= er route to simply take a sip of sap out of someone else's bucket. A nice co= ld sweet drink. Not that I would do so nowadays, a skinny kid will take adva= ntages when it comes to sucking on trees. Farmer Locken eventually sold out=20= to a housing developer and my favorite walking around land got taken over. ]= [<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_28.330abe67.2b727db7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:49:41 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6.9253ea0.2b727e85_boundary" --part1_6.9253ea0.2b727e85_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Untreated. When you find that termites are gnawing on it, you put not so regular nasty to termites wood in the station. Dan: On a purely personal need to know, as in, for my house and future houses, how are these stations constructed? ][<en --part1_6.9253ea0.2b727e85_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Untreated. When you find that termites are gnawing on=20= it, you put not so regular nasty to termites wood in the station.</BLOCKQUOT= E><BR> Dan: On a purely personal need to know, as in, for my house and future house= s, how are these stations constructed? ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_6.9253ea0.2b727e85_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:50:18 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mary Krugman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12c.224960c9.2b727eaa_boundary" --part1_12c.224960c9.2b727eaa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone out there had any experience with tankless hot water heaters? I am working on upgrading the plumbing systems in my tiny 1880s NJ camp meeting cottage. The previous owners kept a standard hot water heater in an attached unheated shed and drained it before winter arrived, but I want to use it in the winter. The January freeze burst the exterior pipes, in spite of all my efforts to keep them warm with space heaters in strategic areas. I'm trying not to expand the building footprint, which would probably be necessary to accommodate the standard unit. I hope to gradually introduce sustainable systems as I rehab. A tankless system seems to offer a solution -- it provides hot water on demand so a large hot water storage tank isn't necessary, it saves energy, and seems small enough to fit into existing spaces. The plumbing contractor, however, says he has had bad experiences with them and mumbled something about refusing to service them. Another thought was solar heat/HW, but I have no experience with that kind of system. It might be more $ than I can handle. Any thoughts? Here are some links I found below. Julep <A HREF="http://www.cetsolar.com/tankless.htm"> http://www.cetsolar.com/tankless.htm</A> <A HREF="http://www.eren.doe.gov/consumerinfo/energy_savers/sourcelist.html">http://www.eren.doe.gov/consumerinfo/energy_savers/sourcelist.html</A> <A HREF="http://www.eren.doe.gov/erec/factsheets/solrwatr.html">http://www.eren.doe.gov/erec/factsheets/solrwatr.html</A> --part1_12c.224960c9.2b727eaa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Has anyone out there had any experience with tankless=20= hot water heaters? I am working on upgrading the plumbing systems in my tiny= 1880s NJ camp meeting cottage. The previous owners kept a standard hot wate= r heater in an attached unheated shed and drained it before winter arrived,=20= but I want to use it in the winter. The January freeze burst the exterior pi= pes, in spite of all my efforts to keep them warm with space heaters in stra= tegic areas.<BR> <BR> I'm trying not to expand the building footprint, which would probably be nec= essary to accommodate the standard unit. I hope to gradually introduce susta= inable systems as I rehab. A tankless system seems to offer a solution -- it= provides hot water on demand so a large hot water storage tank isn't necess= ary, it saves energy, and seems small enough to fit into existing spaces. <B= R> <BR> The plumbing contractor, however, says he has had bad experiences with them=20= and mumbled something about refusing to service them.<BR> <BR> Another thought was solar heat/HW, but I have no experience with that kind o= f system. It might be more $ than I can handle.<BR> <BR> Any thoughts? Here are some links I found below.<BR> <BR> Julep<BR> <A HREF=3D"http://www.cetsolar.com/tankless.htm"> http://www.cetsolar.com/tankless.htm</A><BR> <BR> <A HREF=3D"http://www.eren.doe.gov/consumerinfo/energy_savers/sourcelist.htm= l">http://www.eren.doe.gov/consumerinfo/energy_savers/sourcelist.html</A><BR= > <BR> <A HREF=3D"http://www.eren.doe.gov/erec/factsheets/solrwatr.html">http://www= .eren.doe.gov/erec/factsheets/solrwatr.html</A><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_12c.224960c9.2b727eaa_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:53:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Graffiti Improves the View (was the SheeHee thread) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_de.339133ea.2b727f7e_boundary" --part1_de.339133ea.2b727f7e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This leads me to believe that the cars must be stored somewhere at night where the artists cannot find them. They try that, sometimes it works. What cannot be put away at night is masonry walls and historic stoops. ][<en --part1_de.339133ea.2b727f7e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">This leads me to believe that the cars must be stored=20= somewhere at night where the artists cannot find them.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><F= ONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> They try that, sometimes it works. What cannot be put away at night is mason= ry walls and historic stoops.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_de.339133ea.2b727f7e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:53:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: PCs & typewriters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_172.161c31fd.2b727f7d_boundary" --part1_172.161c31fd.2b727f7d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Electric typewriters were few and far between - none at all in the school classroom I took typing in HS for one week... then chose metal shop. I wanted to be a writer and typing seemed essential. Metal shop was more interesting. The first significant purchase I ever made was a Smith-Corona electric. I taught myself to almost type on it. I don't know where the machine is. When I got a used Selectric I published a book with it. Though I have lost many old tools, I do have manuscripts that go back 35 years. I also have our Timex-Sinclair computer, a machine that nobody in their right mind would ever want to use for word processing. Histo presto content: applied technology of communications. ][<en --part1_172.161c31fd.2b727f7d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Electric typewriters were few and far between - none a= t all in the school classroom</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGR= OUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"= ><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I took typing in HS for one week... then chose metal shop. I wanted to be a=20= writer and typing seemed essential. Metal shop was more interesting. The fir= st significant purchase I ever made was a Smith-Corona electric. I taught my= self to almost type on it. I don't know where the machine is. When I got a u= sed Selectric I published a book with it. Though I have lost many old tools,= I do have manuscripts that go back 35 years. I also have our Timex-Sinclair= computer, a machine that nobody in their right mind would ever want to use=20= for word processing.<BR> <BR> Histo presto content: applied technology of communications.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_172.161c31fd.2b727f7d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:53:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Once-Delicate Terra Cotta on the Vanderbilt Hotel at 34th & Park.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_19d.1076ef3c.2b727f7f_boundary" --part1_19d.1076ef3c.2b727f7f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is any B-P subscriber the guilty party? Sharpshooter: Not me! I recently saw a facade where the TC was stripped & was told that the building is the future home of the sex industry museum. This is true that I saw this and was told this, though I realize that you have been conditioned to not believe me. Neither, I suppose, should I tell you about the guy in the hotel pulling the 3 AM fire alarm with only his underwear on in the hall in MD this last weekend -- an histo presto event I was attending. It was not me, it was David GIbney's brother, a former rugby player. ][<en (1st Annual recipient PTN BVD Award) --part1_19d.1076ef3c.2b727f7f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Is any B-P subscriber the guilty party?</FONT><F= ONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Sharpshooter: Not me! I recently saw a facade where the TC was strippe= d & was told that the building is the future home of the sex industry mu= seum. This is true that I saw this and was told this, though I realize that=20= you have been conditioned to not believe me. Neither, I suppose, should I te= ll you about the guy in the hotel pulling the 3 AM fire alarm with only his=20= underwear on in the hall in MD this last weekend -- an histo presto event I=20= was attending. It was not me, it was David GIbney's brother, a former rugby=20= player. ][<en (1st Annual recipient PTN BVD Award)</FONT></HTML> --part1_19d.1076ef3c.2b727f7f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:53:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Playing Games, was Burning Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cc.17ec1af9.2b727f80_boundary" --part1_cc.17ec1af9.2b727f80_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You shouldn't be playing games, anyway. Corresponding with one's nearest and dearest Pinpals should be enough for anyone. Ralph: I was discussing just this morning with my son my wanting to purchase the super-complicated WW2 strategy game that will allow replication of all sorts of atrocities and resource allocations and the option of changing the course of HISTORY as it includes a map of the entire planet... and his query if I thought myself up to the complexity of the task. I find the complex games relaxing and they sure as hell beat the Yoga vacuity of hours and hours of commuting. If you want torture, listen to a philosophy of history lecture tape while driving... I have 11 more to go and I tend to listen to them 3 or 4 times before I catch on that Gab is not absorbing anything that makes sense. Has it occured to anyone here that without a philosophy of history that there would be no need for histo presto, why... we could just burn all the old buildings down and never even notice? Probably a good reason to avoid listening to lectures on the philosophy of history. On another note, the lecturer got his undergraduate, graduate and doctoral from Columbia U. ][<en --part1_cc.17ec1af9.2b727f80_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">You shouldn't be playing games, anyway. Correspo= nding with one's nearest and dearest Pinpals should be enough for anyone.</B= LOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff= " SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ralph: I was discussing just this morning with my son my wanting to purchase= the super-complicated WW2 strategy game that will allow replication of all=20= sorts of atrocities and resource allocations and the option of changing the=20= course of HISTORY as it includes a map of the entire planet... and his query= if I thought myself up to the complexity of the task. I find the complex ga= mes relaxing and they sure as hell beat the Yoga vacuity of hours and hours=20= of commuting. <BR> <BR> If you want torture, listen to a philosophy of history lecture tape while dr= iving... I have 11 more to go and I tend to listen to them 3 or 4 times befo= re I catch on that Gab is not absorbing anything that makes sense. Has it oc= cured to anyone here that without a philosophy of history that there would b= e no need for histo presto, why... we could just burn all the old buildings=20= down and never even notice? Probably a good reason to avoid listening to lec= tures on the philosophy of history. On another note, the lecturer got his un= dergraduate, graduate and doctoral from Columbia U. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_cc.17ec1af9.2b727f80_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:53:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Progress of the OSHA Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_178.16457978.2b727f7e_boundary" --part1_178.16457978.2b727f7e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One of them songs I knew...and did not know. Guess I was in the basement at the time. Sadly to say, I was fusing w/ DD's bag 24-7 and by day busting stone at the pre-OSHA salt mine. Happy to say those days did not last long and that I did not fall down the vertical shaft -- story is if you did fall down the shaft they would put what they could find of you in a shoe box. I, for one, like OSHA. Without it I figure I would be dead. For halfways decent employers it works towards leveling the field, that safety is not always an expense over and beyond what the competition will do. As to hard regulation, fines & inspections, the world is a busy place and there is a limit to time and energy. ][<en --part1_178.16457978.2b727f7e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">One of them songs I knew...and did not know. Gue= ss I was in the basement at the time.<BR> <BR> Sadly to say, I was fusing w/ DD's bag 24-7 and by day busting stone at the=20= pre-OSHA salt mine. Happy to say those days did not last long and that I did= not fall down the vertical shaft -- story is if you did fall down the shaft= they would put what they could find of you in a shoe box. I, for one, like=20= OSHA. Without it I figure I would be dead. For halfways decent employers it=20= works towards leveling the field, that safety is not always an expense over=20= and beyond what the competition will do. As to hard regulation, fines &=20= inspections, the world is a busy place and there is a limit to time and ener= gy. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_178.16457978.2b727f7e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:54:40 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Good Luck Horseshoes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------12348EEA9DCDE3E94A785C9E" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------12348EEA9DCDE3E94A785C9E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cuyler Page wrote > > cp in bc > where we use electronic pest chasers with great success > Really? suspected that the squirrels & raccoon in my garage became inured to the electronic pest chaser within 6 weeks- even took the 1st one back and replaced it- eventually resorted to rat bait, mothballs, plaster lathe, a pellet gun & had to finish the raccoon off w/ a 22 after it gnawed a bottle of CitrusStrip and was foaming at the mouth one morning when I went out to the shop... DD --------------12348EEA9DCDE3E94A785C9E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------12348EEA9DCDE3E94A785C9E-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:00:55 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Follett > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:50 AM >=20 >=20 > Dan: On a purely personal need to know, as in, for my house=20 > and future houses, how are these stations constructed? ][<en=20 Vertical plastic tubes set flush with ground surface with cute little hinged lids in a flanged top ring. The tube has slots that allow the lil buggers to come in. Very welcoming. I don't know off hand what the spacing of the stations is from each other and from the foundation of the house. Pyrate should be well informed on these things...they're really used a lot in Nawlins. ________________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Dagnabit Muskie, who dropped Raleigh Historic the cotton pickin' curtain on Districts Commission my toe bone?" =20 [log in to unmask] - Deputy Dawg 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:03:05 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--421807814 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2--421807814 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Even for people who have spent a lot of time dealing with termites have been known to not see the tunnels and other evidence of activity even from 8" with a flash light pointed at it. So any kind of early warning would be helpful, but not a substitute for training folks to observe and making sure that they are spending the time observing. This concept and several others that take advantage of the termites lack of creative behavior and predictability are promising. Certainly worth a try. Having said that, there is an awful lot of bull shit being sold as termite treatments. If you live where the frost goes down 3-4', you ain't got termites. Maybe something, but not termites. Of course there are exceptions. You can infest a heated building by importing termites and if you maintain heated access to the water and the ground you can keep the little buggers happy and alive. They probably won't expand much beyond the building...their expansion work confined to warmer seasons. In termite zones an interesting feature is that they don't show up for about 4 years after new construction is complete. They spend those years eating the stuff the builders threw in the builders trench and don't get started on the building until they've finished the builders trench. That's their favorite place to work...and I suppose their favorite food. Construction your building high on a dry rocky hill works real good. They like wet buildings. Watch where you bring your downspouts down and grade away from your building. It seems to me that if you use poison to kill critters who are following water into your building...you may be bringing the poisen in too. Anything that can kill a termite is mighty nasty stuff, for a termite is a formidable opponent. -jc On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:28 AM, Ken Follett wrote: > where we use electronic pest chasers with great success > cp, > On a project for a house museum I was told about termite stations > buried in the ground around the house that are somehow checked for > activity & when there is activity the exterminators put poisons in the > stations that are carried back to the nest. Do you know if these are > electronic sensors, or does someone have to actually look in them? I'm > curious... not looking for lunch. > ][<en > --Apple-Mail-2--421807814 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Even for people who have spent a lot of time dealing with termites have been known to not see the tunnels and other evidence of activity even from 8" with a flash light pointed at it. So any kind of early warning would be helpful, but not a substitute for training folks to observe and making sure that they are spending the time observing. This concept and several others that take advantage of the termites lack of creative behavior and predictability are promising. Certainly worth a try. Having said that, there is an awful lot of bull shit being sold as termite treatments. If you live where the frost goes down 3-4', you ain't got termites. Maybe something, but not termites. Of course there are exceptions. You can infest a heated building by importing termites and if you maintain heated access to the water and the ground you can keep the little buggers happy and alive. They probably won't expand much beyond the building...their expansion work confined to warmer seasons. In termite zones an interesting feature is that they don't show up for about 4 years after new construction is complete. They spend those years eating the stuff the builders threw in the builders trench and don't get started on the building until they've finished the builders trench. That's their favorite place to work...and I suppose their favorite food. Construction your building high on a dry rocky hill works real good. They like wet buildings. Watch where you bring your downspouts down and grade away from your building. It seems to me that if you use poison to kill critters who are following water into your building...you may be bringing the poisen in too. Anything that can kill a termite is mighty nasty stuff, for a termite is a formidable opponent. -jc On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:28 AM, Ken Follett wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>where we use electronic pest chasers with great success cp, On a project for a house museum I was told about termite stations buried in the ground around the house that are somehow checked for activity & when there is activity the exterminators put poisons in the stations that are carried back to the nest. Do you know if these are electronic sensors, or does someone have to actually look in them? I'm curious... not looking for lunch. ][<<en</smaller></fontfamily> </excerpt> --Apple-Mail-2--421807814-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:05:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_146.9a84bc6.2b728220_boundary" --part1_146.9a84bc6.2b728220_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone out there had any experience with tankless hot water heaters? Mary: We have a small unit that we have been using for several years in our office kitchen. In-Sink-Erator, .5 gal, 750 watt, 60 cup hour recovery, adjustable thermostat. 800-556-5700 You cannot take a shower w/ it, but for a cup of tea it is a blessing. I suppose it would work for washing a sink of dishes as well. We have had NO problem with our unit ever... which is probably why your plumber is grumbling. If you do not want the hot water, since it is electric, you pull the plug. ][<en --part1_146.9a84bc6.2b728220_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Has anyone out there had any experience with tankless=20= hot water heaters?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Mary: We have a small unit that we have been using for several years in our=20= office kitchen. In-Sink-Erator, .5 gal, 750 watt, 60 cup hour recovery, adju= stable thermostat. 800-556-5700 You cannot take a shower w/ it, but for a cu= p of tea it is a blessing. I suppose it would work for washing a sink of dis= hes as well. We have had NO problem with our unit ever... which is probably=20= why your plumber is grumbling. If you do not want the hot water, since it is= electric, you pull the plug. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_146.9a84bc6.2b728220_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:18:57 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EFDD61FE41478490B8932C31" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EFDD61FE41478490B8932C31 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------AA5FDA5FC27C006F1714801D" --------------AA5FDA5FC27C006F1714801D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mary Krugman wrote: > Has anyone out there had any experience with tankless hot water > heaters? I am working on upgrading the plumbing systems in my tiny > 1880s NJ camp meeting cottage. Is this a full time of weekend place- have used electric flash heaters extensively in NYC office pantries both for hot tap water & Dishwashers & my experience is if they don't burn out in the 1st 60 days I never hear about them... Also back in the dawn of time installed higher capacity units on weekend places for showers, washing machine etc- also Electric, gas units may or may not have venting issues. Believe and again my info is maybe out of date that for a full time occupancy house standard hw tank is more energy efficient. > The previous owners kept a standard hot water heater in an attached > unheated shed and drained it before winter arrived, but I want to use > it in the winter. The January freeze burst the exterior pipes, in > spite of all my efforts to keep them warm with space heaters in > strategic areas. Would suggest electric heat tape/ Heat trace cable @ the pipes would be a better investment & much more effective.. > > > I'm trying not to expand the building footprint, which would probably > be necessary to accommodate the standard unit. I hope to gradually > introduce sustainable systems as I rehab. A tankless system seems to > offer a solution -- it provides hot water on demand so a large hot > water storage tank isn't necessary, it saves energy, and seems small > enough to fit into existing spaces. > > The plumbing contractor, however, says he has had bad experiences with > them and mumbled something about refusing to service them. > > Another thought was solar heat/HW, but I have no experience with that > kind of system. It might be more $ than I can handle. 1-NJ doesn't offer all that much sun- which is one of the reasons you don't see all that many Solar collectors as you drive the neighborhood. 2- is the roof oriented to take advantage of the sun 3- is the roof structure up to carrying collectors. dd --------------AA5FDA5FC27C006F1714801D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <p>Mary Krugman wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Has anyone out there had any experience with tankless hot water heaters? I am working on upgrading the plumbing systems in my tiny 1880s NJ camp meeting cottage.</font></font></blockquote> Is this a full time of weekend place- <br>have used electric flash heaters extensively in NYC office pantries both for hot tap water & Dishwashers & my experience is if they don't burn out in the 1st 60 days I never hear about them... <br>Also back in the dawn of time installed higher capacity units on weekend places for showers, washing machine etc- also Electric, gas units may or may not have venting issues. Believe and again my info is maybe out of date that for a full time occupancy house standard hw tank is more energy efficient. <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>The previous owners kept a standard hot water heater in an attached unheated shed and drained it before winter arrived, but I want to use it in the winter. The January freeze burst the exterior pipes, in spite of all my efforts to keep them warm with space heaters in strategic areas.</font></font></blockquote> Would suggest electric heat tape/ Heat trace cable @ the pipes would be a better investment & much more effective.. <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1></font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I'm trying not to expand the building footprint, which would probably be necessary to accommodate the standard unit. I hope to gradually introduce sustainable systems as I rehab. A tankless system seems to offer a solution -- it provides hot water on demand so a large hot water storage tank isn't necessary, it saves energy, and seems small enough to fit into existing spaces.</font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>The plumbing contractor, however, says he has had bad experiences with them and mumbled something about refusing to service them.</font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Another thought was solar heat/HW, but I have no experience with that kind of system. It might be more $ than I can handle.</font></font></blockquote> 1-NJ doesn't offer all that much sun- which is one of the reasons you don't see all that many Solar collectors as you drive the neighborhood. <br>2- is the roof oriented to take advantage of the sun <br>3- is the roof structure up to carrying collectors. <p>dd</html> --------------AA5FDA5FC27C006F1714801D-- --------------EFDD61FE41478490B8932C31 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------EFDD61FE41478490B8932C31-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:27:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8.33c0ffdf.2b728777_boundary" --part1_8.33c0ffdf.2b728777_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 7:27:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Well, I'll probably be doing it again in a few weeks. Ruth > Ruth, Advise you attempt to avoid it. Ditto falling into tar kettles. Ralph --part1_8.33c0ffdf.2b728777_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 7:27:33 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Well, I'll probably be do= ing it again in a few weeks. Ruth<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ruth,<BR> <BR> Advise you attempt to avoid it. Ditto falling into tar kettles.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_8.33c0ffdf.2b728777_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:48:32 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ef.110bfc0.2b728c50_boundary" --part1_1ef.110bfc0.2b728c50_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Missy Julep, Nice to hear from youse. I'd been wondering where you were, and now we know. You might give a call to Public Service or whoever your gas company is downtheshore; they probably have all sorts of programs to subsidize green (or even greenish) stuff. I would think that solar panels (and the attendant piping all over the place, particularly in the upper reaches of the house) wouldn't be good idea this far north, but I could be, ah, shall we say, mistaken. Ralph --part1_1ef.110bfc0.2b728c50_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Missy Julep,<BR> <BR> Nice to hear from youse. I'd been wondering where you were, and now we= know. You might give a call to Public Service or whoever your gas com= pany is downtheshore; they probably have all sorts of programs to subsidize=20= green (or even greenish) stuff. I would think that solar panels (and t= he attendant piping all over the place, particularly in the upper reaches of= the house) wouldn't be good idea this far north, but I could be, ah, shall=20= we say, mistaken. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1ef.110bfc0.2b728c50_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:50:33 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the OSHA Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c1.2e2dabcf.2b728cc9_boundary" --part1_c1.2e2dabcf.2b728cc9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 9:55:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > For halfways decent employers it works towards leveling the field, that > safety is not always an expense over and beyond what the competition will > do. Good pernt, as we say in Joisey, Ken. Ralph --part1_c1.2e2dabcf.2b728cc9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 9:55:06 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">For halfways decent employers i= t works towards leveling the field, that safety is not always an expense ove= r and beyond what the competition will do.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Good pernt, as we say in Joisey, Ken. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_c1.2e2dabcf.2b728cc9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:53:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Once-Delicate Terra Cotta on the Vanderbilt Hotel at 34th & Park.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_149.98eee3f.2b728d8c_boundary" --part1_149.98eee3f.2b728d8c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 9:55:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I recently saw a facade where the TC was stripped &was told that the > building is the future home of the sex industry museum. Is this the current Museum of Sex down on 5th Av or Broadway or someplace, which had a rather stripped-down look when I passed it recently, or have they screwed up another building? Or is this another building being screwed up by someone else entirely? Apologies for the reproductive metaphors. Ralph --part1_149.98eee3f.2b728d8c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 9:55:09 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I recently saw a facade where t= he TC was stripped &was told that the building is the future home of the= sex industry museum. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"= BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Is this the current Museum of Sex down on 5th Av or Broadway or someplace, w= hich had a rather stripped-down look when I passed it recently, or have they= screwed up another building? Or is this another building being screwe= d up by someone else entirely?<BR> <BR> Apologies for the reproductive metaphors.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_149.98eee3f.2b728d8c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:56:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Playing Games, was Burning Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1de.12f49cc.2b728e2c_boundary" --part1_1de.12f49cc.2b728e2c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken, Philosophy of History can't possibly be any more boring than Modern Architectural History. Ralph --part1_1de.12f49cc.2b728e2c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Ken,<BR> <BR> Philosophy of History can't possibly be any more boring than Modern Architec= tural History.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1de.12f49cc.2b728e2c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:57:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Graffiti Improves the View (was the SheeHee thread) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_120.1d5ffcd6.2b728e7e_boundary" --part1_120.1d5ffcd6.2b728e7e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 9:55:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > What cannot be put away at night is masonry walls and historic stoops. > And that's why Drew keeps a .22 out in the wilds of Lawn Gisland, where life is nasty, brutish and short. Ralph --part1_120.1d5ffcd6.2b728e7e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 9:55:14 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What cannot be put away at nigh= t is masonry walls and historic stoops.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> And that's why Drew keeps a .22 out in the wilds of Lawn Gisland, where life= is nasty, brutish and short.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_120.1d5ffcd6.2b728e7e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:25:25 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Krugman > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:50 AM >=20 >=20 > The plumbing contractor, however, says he has had bad=20 > experiences with them and mumbled something about refusing to=20 > service them. I agree with Ken about the plumber's motives. These things are the norm in Europe, I understand. I'd guess it to be pretty tried and true. So maybe you should shop Grohe or Bosch or Volvo or something. Try Euro 555-5555. ___________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "What's this? Fan mail Raleigh Historic from some flounder?" Districts Commission - Bullwinkle J. Moose [log in to unmask] 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:34:05 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Hammarberg, Eric" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Masonry Cement or PCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for the responses so far, but it seams to me, clumping issues aside, that PCL makes a much better mortar - better plastic deformation and autogeneous healing of cracks. What purpose does the pulverized limestone have (powdered aggregate?) and isn't hydrated lime better? Also the technical notes from the Brick Institute of America and the Portland Cement Association "qualify" the heck out of describing what masonry cement is - there is no good info provided. The primary aspects mentioned are job site ease - one bag for cement, a pile of sand and water. How is one supposed to confidently specify mortar when you can't find out what is in it? Mike E, can you shed some of your wisdom? Thanks, Eric Hammarberg Director of Preservation Associate LZA Technology 641 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10011-2014 Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct) Mobile: 917.439.3537 Fax: 917.661.8161 (Direct) email: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: S. Stokowski [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:52 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Masonry Cement or PCL Eric: Masonry cement is a mixture of Portland cement, mineral filler, and other components. The mineral filler is usually limestone powder. It can be other things, such as diatomaceous earth, ground basalt, ground feldspar, ground quartz, etc. The "other components" that I allude to, if included, are usually hydrated lime, an air-entraining agent, and in some situations an anti-cake agent. Calcined bentonite and calcined kaolin clays have also been used. During the manufacture of masonry cement the Portland cement and the limestone powder are usually mixed and interground in a ball mill. The Portland cement becomes finer, more reactive, and more effective. Limestone is the usual mineral filler because it does not cause excessive wear on the ball mill. The approximate proportions for Type N masonry cement are 45% Portland cement, 45% pulverized limestone, and 10% hydrated lime. In manufacturing practice, the proportions are adjusted to a happy medium between workability, ASTM C-270 strength, and RMC (raw materials cost). It has not been my experience that the manufacturers will not divulge the composition of their product. However, the sales force usually does not have this information in their memory, although if you read the MSDS you can get a good qualitative idea. The MSDS usually doesn't tell you the admixtures, but they really aren't that difficult to identify with $10 worth of labor and $20,000 worth of knowledge. The quantitative proportions are usually only known to the lab and production guys. And to guys like me who reverse engineer and develop these products. Masonry cement is on the market because it is a profitable product that performs well. It is primarily a bagged product. As such, it has a major advantage over bagged Portland cement/hydrated lime mixtures; it cakes less. That is primarily because of the interground mineral filler. Masonry cement is also less expensive and has a couple of purely technical advantages. If an air entrainer is used, the resulting mortar has enhanced frost resistance. If the mineral filler is limestone, the masonry-cement mortar also has more acid resistance because of the reactivity of the pulverized limestone with acids. There are also more nebulous advantages related to masonry cement being a relatively "Green" product. Steve Stokowski Stone Products Consultants Building Products Microscopy 10 Clark St., Ste. A Ashland, Mass. 01721-2145 508-881-6364 (ph. & fax) http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm <http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm> ****************************************************** In a message dated 2/4/03 4:41:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I am trying to find out why masonry cement (MC) is on the market when portland cement / lime (PCL) mortars appear, at least to me, to perform better and more reliably? As many of us know, MC is typically a mix of portland cement, pulverized limestone and "proprietary admixtures" which manufacturers seldom (never) will divulge. PCL is portland cement and lime, period. Can anybody shed light on this for me? <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The information in this email and any attachments may contain confidential information that is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this message. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:37:45 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EE06A904200F064E49A375D4" --------------EE06A904200F064E49A375D4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken: Check out Dow Chemical http://www.dowagro.com/sentricon/us/story/ask.htm Once the untreated wood in the plastic termite bait station is found by worker termites as they forage, then the untreated wood is replaced with wood treated with growth inhibitor. The termites can not shed their exo-skeleton and as a result die. Bryan ======== Ken Follett wrote: > where we use electronic pest chasers with great success cp, On a project for a house museum I was told about termite stations buried in the ground around the house that are somehow checked for activity & when there is activity the exterminators put poisons in the stations that are carried back to the nest. Do you know if these are electronic sensors, or does someone have to actually look in them? I'm curious... not looking for lunch. ][<en --------------EE06A904200F064E49A375D4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <font color="#000099">Ken:</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">Check out Dow Chemical</font> <br><font color="#000099"><A HREF="http://www.dowagro.com/sentricon/us/story/ask.htm">http://www.dowagro.com/sentricon/us/story/ask.htm</A></font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">Once the untreated wood in the plastic termite bait station is found by worker termites as they forage, then the untreated wood is replaced with wood treated with growth inhibitor. The termites can not shed their exo-skeleton and as a result die.</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">Bryan</font> <br><font color="#000099">========</font> <p>Ken Follett wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>where we use electronic pest chasers with great success</font></font></blockquote> <p><br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>cp,</font></font> <br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>On a project for a house museum I was told about termite stations buried in the ground around the house that are somehow checked for activity & when there is activity the exterminators put poisons in the stations that are carried back to the nest. Do you know if these are electronic sensors, or does someone have to actually look in them? I'm curious... not looking for lunch.</font></font> <br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>][<en</font></font></html> --------------EE06A904200F064E49A375D4-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:10:56 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B5E49FCD27E766AD2430CCC6" --------------B5E49FCD27E766AD2430CCC6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Termites Course 101. The termites' initial search is for a good neighborhood to live in. To them, a good neighborhood is one with damp soil. Once the neighborhood is picked, then they go shopping in the neighborhood. The shopper termites (workers) go out and hunt for the local mall. (Mall = wood near moist soil conditions. The best malls also offer a wood selection with just a hint of fungi activity. Yum-yum, now that's some fine eating.) Once a good shopping mall is found, these little 'shop till they drop' termites tell their shopping friends of the good bargains to be found. Soon everyone is shopping there. In dealing with Termites, the trick is to keep the soil dry and easily drained of surface water (not French drains that introduce water down into the soil). If they do not like the neighborhood they will not do their shopping there either. Termites have rights too. ================= John Callan wrote: > Even for people who have spent a lot of time dealing with termites have been known to not see the tunnels and other evidence of activity even from 8" with a flash light pointed at it. So any kind of early warning would be helpful, but not a substitute for training folks to observe and making sure that they are spending the time observing. > > This concept and several others that take advantage of the termites lack of creative behavior and predictability are promising. Certainly worth a try. Having said that, there is an awful lot of bull shit being sold as termite treatments. If you live where the frost goes down 3-4', you ain't got termites. Maybe something, but not termites. Of course there are exceptions. You can infest a heated building by importing termites and if you maintain heated access to the water and the ground you can keep the little buggers happy and alive. They probably won't expand much beyond the building...their expansion work confined to warmer seasons. > > In termite zones an interesting feature is that they don't show up for about 4 years after new construction is complete. They spend those years eating the stuff the builders threw in the builders trench and don't get started on the building until they've finished the builders trench. That's their favorite place to work...and I suppose their favorite food. > > Construction your building high on a dry rocky hill works real good. They like wet buildings. Watch where you bring your downspouts down and grade away from your building. It seems to me that if you use poison to kill critters who are following water into your building...you may be bringing the poisen in too. Anything that can kill a termite is mighty nasty stuff, for a termite is a formidable opponent. > > -jc > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:28 AM, Ken Follett wrote: > > where we use electronic pest chasers with great success > cp, > On a project for a house museum I was told about termite stations buried in the ground around the house that are somehow checked for activity & when there is activity the exterminators put poisons in the stations that are carried back to the nest. Do you know if these are electronic sensors, or does someone have to actually look in them? I'm curious... not looking for lunch. > ][<en --------------B5E49FCD27E766AD2430CCC6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <font color="#3333FF">Termites Course 101. The termites' initial search is for a good neighborhood to live in. To them, a good neighborhood is one with damp soil. Once the neighborhood is picked, then they go shopping in the neighborhood. The shopper termites (workers) go out and hunt for the local mall. (Mall = wood near moist soil conditions. The best malls also offer a wood selection with just a hint of fungi activity. Yum-yum, now that's some fine eating.) Once a good shopping mall is found, these little 'shop till they drop' termites tell their shopping friends of the good bargains to be found. Soon everyone is shopping there.</font><font color="#3333FF"></font> <p><font color="#3333FF">In dealing with Termites, the trick is to keep the soil dry and easily drained of surface water (not French drains that introduce water down into the soil). If they do not like the neighborhood they will not do their shopping there either.</font><font color="#3333FF"></font> <p><font color="#3333FF">Termites have rights too.</font><font color="#3333FF"></font> <p><font color="#3333FF">=================</font> <p>John Callan wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Even for people who have spent a lot of time dealing with termites have been known to not see the tunnels and other evidence of activity even from 8" with a flash light pointed at it. So any kind of early warning would be helpful, but not a substitute for training folks to observe and making sure that they are spending the time observing. <p>This concept and several others that take advantage of the termites lack of creative behavior and predictability are promising. Certainly worth a try. Having said that, there is an awful lot of bull shit being sold as termite treatments. If you live where the frost goes down 3-4', you ain't got termites. Maybe something, but not termites. Of course there are exceptions. You can infest a heated building by importing termites and if you maintain heated access to the water and the ground you can keep the little buggers happy and alive. They probably won't expand much beyond the building...their expansion work confined to warmer seasons. <p>In termite zones an interesting feature is that they don't show up for about 4 years after new construction is complete. They spend those years eating the stuff the builders threw in the builders trench and don't get started on the building until they've finished the builders trench. That's their favorite place to work...and I suppose their favorite food. <p>Construction your building high on a dry rocky hill works real good. They like wet buildings. Watch where you bring your downspouts down and grade away from your building. It seems to me that if you use poison to kill critters who are following water into your building...you may be bringing the poisen in too. Anything that can kill a termite is mighty nasty stuff, for a termite is a formidable opponent. <p>-jc <p>On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:28 AM, Ken Follett wrote: <p> where we use electronic pest chasers with great success <br> cp, <br> On a project for a house museum I was told about termite stations buried in the ground around the house that are somehow checked for activity & when there is activity the exterminators put poisons in the stations that are carried back to the nest. Do you know if these are electronic sensors, or does someone have to actually look in them? I'm curious... not looking for lunch. <br> ][<en</blockquote> </html> --------------B5E49FCD27E766AD2430CCC6-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:20:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11b.1dc83c15.2b72cc18_boundary" --part1_11b.1dc83c15.2b72cc18_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 2:35:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The termites can not shed their exo-skeleton and as a result die. Bryan, I'm shocked and dismayed. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered. Do the PETA people know about this? Isn't this every bit as bad as (or maybe even worse than) rectal electricution of our furry friends? Ralph --part1_11b.1dc83c15.2b72cc18_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 2:35:34 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">The termites can not shed their exo-skeleton and as a resul= t die.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SI= ZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Bryan,<BR> <BR> I'm shocked and dismayed. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered. Do the PETA pe= ople know about this? Isn't this every bit as bad as (or maybe even wo= rse than) rectal electricution of our furry friends? <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_11b.1dc83c15.2b72cc18_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:38:10 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cb.1bb6a5f.2b72d032_boundary" --part1_1cb.1bb6a5f.2b72d032_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 3:09:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Termites have rights too. Bryan, I bet they have three of 'em, and three lefts, too. The little out-of-wedlock offspring. Is the above a sufficiently sanitized euphemism, Ken? Can we acronymize it [Chrif: call Fafire and tell him to hold the preffef for thif new locution; I think it'f pretty good, if I do fay fo myfelf] into OOWO to go with HTH [which I guess doesn't mean "how the heck"). Ralph --part1_1cb.1bb6a5f.2b72d032_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 3:09:48 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#3333ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Termites have rights too.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" st= yle=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Aria= l" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Bryan,<BR> <BR> I bet they have three of 'em, and three lefts, too. The little out-of-= wedlock offspring.<BR> <BR> Is the above a sufficiently sanitized euphemism, Ken? Can we acronymiz= e it <B>[Chrif: call Fafire and tell him to hold the preffef for thif new lo= cution; I think it'f pretty good, if I do fay fo myfelf] </B>into OOWO to go= with HTH [which I guess doesn't mean "how the heck").<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1cb.1bb6a5f.2b72d032_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:42:31 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <BULLAMANK[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------7239357E5570D8036AAA3BCE" --------------7239357E5570D8036AAA3BCE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ralph: You must keep in mind that when these little wood eating buggers go to meet their maker, its underground and unseen. So it like it doesn't even happen. Now sneaking up and sticking electrodes in the south end of a north facing furry friend is a completely different story. I know that our rabbit would not take kindly to this type of procedure. Shocked and hemroidaled, Bryan ====== Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/5/2003 2:35:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > >> The termites can not shed their exo-skeleton and as a result die. > > Bryan, > > I'm shocked and dismayed. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered. Do the PETA > people know about this? Isn't this every bit as bad as (or maybe even > worse than) rectal electricution of our furry friends? > > Ralph --------------7239357E5570D8036AAA3BCE Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <font color="#000099">Ralph:</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">You must keep in mind that when these little wood eating buggers go to meet their maker, its underground and unseen. So it like it doesn't even happen. Now sneaking up and sticking electrodes in the south end of a north facing furry friend is a completely different story. I know that our rabbit would not take kindly to this type of procedure.</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">Shocked and hemroidaled,</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">Bryan</font> <br><font color="#000099">======</font> <p>Ralph Walter wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>In a message dated 2/5/2003 2:35:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font> <br> <blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="Arial"><font color="#000099"><font size=-1>The termites can not shed their exo-skeleton and as a result die.</font></font></font></blockquote> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Bryan,</font></font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>I'm shocked and dismayed. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered. Do the PETA people know about this? Isn't this every bit as bad as (or maybe even worse than) rectal electricution of our furry friends?</font></font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Ralph</font></font></font></blockquote> </html> --------------7239357E5570D8036AAA3BCE-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:27:42 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_OcpcYLBxOr5VFJ0+jAfipA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_OcpcYLBxOr5VFJ0+jAfipA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Do they have lawyers, as well? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: Re: cp termite stations? In a message dated 2/5/2003 3:09:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Termites have rights too. Bryan, I bet they have three of 'em, and three lefts, too. The little out-of-wedlock offspring. Is the above a sufficiently sanitized euphemism, Ken? Can we acronymize it [Chrif: call Fafire and tell him to hold the preffef for thif new locution; I think it'f pretty good, if I do fay fo myfelf] into OOWO to go with HTH [which I guess doesn't mean "how the heck"). Ralph --Boundary_(ID_OcpcYLBxOr5VFJ0+jAfipA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Do they have lawyers, as well?</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:38 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cp termite stations?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/5/2003 3:09:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#3333ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Termites have rights too.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Bryan,<BR><BR>I bet they have three of 'em, and three lefts, too. The little out-of-wedlock offspring.<BR><BR>Is the above a sufficiently sanitized euphemism, Ken? Can we acronymize it <B>[Chrif: call Fafire and tell him to hold the preffef for thif new locution; I think it'f pretty good, if I do fay fo myfelf] </B>into OOWO to go with HTH [which I guess doesn't mean "how the heck").<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_OcpcYLBxOr5VFJ0+jAfipA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:29:40 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Playing Games, was Burning Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How incestuous! I was led to believe that was a sign of someone who didn't reach very far for new ideas, something to be avoided in higher learning. But hey, maybe he/she got a good deal on tuition... Signed, only got a BS but it took me 8-1/2 years (off and on) -----Original Message----- From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:54 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Playing Games, was Burning Things On another note, the lecturer got his undergraduate, graduate and doctoral from Columbia U. ][<en -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:47:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Burning Man, Redux... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c8.4a4b6a8.2b72e08d_boundary" --part1_1c8.4a4b6a8.2b72e08d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was disappointed that I couldn't set off fireworks in the mud and burn piles of dry leaves after I moved to New York in 1959. But my 1956 sawtooth-design apartment house, designed [here comes the preservation content] for the Doelger family by Boak & Raad, did have an incinerator, fed by a chute. From the 7th floor, you could stick a mirror out into the shaft and look down when they lit the fire every few days. Sometime later, I discovered that, by dropping a waxed-paper milk carton as a torch, I could put "fire in the hole" whenever I wanted. That was fun. I also used to drop sparklers out the back window into the garden. One summer, it was kind of dry, and I looked about twenty minutes later and saw 3 maintenance staff fighting a steadily expanding ring of fire in the over-dry ground ivy. Sign me, 451 --part1_1c8.4a4b6a8.2b72e08d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">I was disappointed that I couldn't set off firew= orks in the mud and burn piles of dry leaves after I moved to New York in 19= 59. But my 1956 sawtooth-design apartment house, designed [here comes=20= the preservation content] for the Doelger family by Boak & Raad, did hav= e an incinerator, fed by a chute. From the 7th floor, you could stick=20= a mirror out into the shaft and look down when they lit the fire every few d= ays. Sometime later, I discovered that, by dropping a waxed-paper milk= carton as a torch, I could put "fire in the hole" whenever I wanted. = That was fun. <BR> <BR>I also used to drop sparklers out the back window into the garden.  = ;One summer, it was kind of dry, and I looked about twenty minutes later and= saw 3 maintenance staff fighting a steadily expanding ring of fire in the o= ver-dry ground ivy. <BR> <BR>Sign me, 451 </FONT></HTML> --part1_1c8.4a4b6a8.2b72e08d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:00:14 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Once-Delicate Terra Cotta on the Vanderbilt Hotel at 34th & Park.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cc.1bd23c7.2b72e36e_boundary" --part1_1cc.1bd23c7.2b72e36e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Or is this another building being screwed up by someone else entirely? Ralph: I think I took a picture... I'll look and see. I think it was on 5th in the 70's. (I have a tendency of not remembering where I have been... comes in handy for the occasional deposition when the grim reaper squoinks up the job.) At first I thought it was a fairly aggressive cornice removal campaign, then realized it was all of the water tables as well. The faces chopped off and the cores exposed. A terracotectomy? ][<en --part1_1cc.1bd23c7.2b72e36e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Or is this another building being screwed up by someon= e else entirely?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Ralph: I think I took a picture... I'll look and see. I think i= t was on 5th in the 70's. (I have a tendency of not remembering where I have= been... comes in handy for the occasional deposition when the grim reaper s= quoinks up the job.) At first I thought it was a fairly aggressive cornice r= emoval campaign, then realized it was all of the water tables as well. The f= aces chopped off and the cores exposed. A terracotectomy? ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1cc.1bd23c7.2b72e36e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:03:06 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mary- Friends of ours upstate (Medusa)have been using an AquaStar for their full time residence for at least 12 years and have had no problems with it. I've seen it in action and it's great (I feared a slow gpm rate during shower time, but no discernable difference). Twybil -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:05:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Playing Games, was Burning Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_193.153b34d1.2b72e4bc_boundary" --part1_193.153b34d1.2b72e4bc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Philosophy of History can't possibly be any more boring than Modern Architectural History. Ralph: At least something happens during the Philosophy of History. ][<en --part1_193.153b34d1.2b72e4bc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Philosophy of History can't possibly be any more borin= g than Modern Architectural History.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000= 000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Ralph: At least something ha= ppens during the Philosophy of History. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_193.153b34d1.2b72e4bc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:23:32 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mary Krugman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_161.1b4eec7b.2b72e8e4_boundary" --part1_161.1b4eec7b.2b72e8e4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gee, tanks for all the input, guys. Love all the good experiences. I'll keep poking around the web and ask in OCNJ for some distributors. Jule --part1_161.1b4eec7b.2b72e8e4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Gee, tanks for all the input, guys. Love all the good=20= experiences. I'll keep poking around the web and ask in OCNJ for some distri= butors. <BR> <BR> Jule</FONT></HTML> --part1_161.1b4eec7b.2b72e8e4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:29:46 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Once-Delicate Terra Cotta on the Vanderbilt Hotel at 34th & Park.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 5:00:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ralph: I think I took a picture... I'll look and see. I > think it was on 5th in the 70's. Ken, This is definfitely another building than the one I saw. Wonder if Sidney Biddle Barrows is in on this Cooz (is that an OK euphemism?) Industry Museum on the Upper East Side. Also interesting that this is, uh, coming out at the same time as Heidi Fleiss' new book, "Pandering" which I learned all about on the Today Show this AM, while doing cardiac rehab. Heidi (F, not our Heidi H) looks a little too preserved and artificially enhanced, BTW. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:36:26 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 5:03:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Friends of ours upstate (Medusa)have been using an AquaStar for their full time residence for at least 12 years and have had no problems with it. I've seen it in action and it's great (I feared a slow gpm rate during shower time, but no > discernable difference). Mr. T, Please tell us more. Who is Aquastar? Does one want this exemplary product even if one could have a regular water heater? Like f'rinstance me, who keeps finding little white crumb-like thingies clogging the strainer on the kitchen sink (I thought they were dishwasher detergent remnants) and the other day in the strainer on the hot water feed for the washing machine. Sign me, This Could Be Urgent -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:38:29 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Playing Games, was Burning Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 5:05:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Philosophy of History can't possibly be any more boring than Modern Architectural History. > > Ralph: At least something happens during the Philosophy of > History. ][<en Sleep counts as "something [that] happens" in this case? Or did you mean driving on the LIE? Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:35:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: The Once-Delicate Ralph MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_fb.371a9715.2b72f9d6_boundary" --part1_fb.371a9715.2b72f9d6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/03 5:31:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > which I learned all about on the Today Show this AM, while doing cardiac > Hey, do you have a pacemaker/defibrillator like my daughter got in January? Nice scar, hunh? Yr frnd, I Hear They Cost $50,000 Apiece, But I Haven't Seen The Bill --part1_fb.371a9715.2b72f9d6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/03 5:31:39 PM Eastern Sta= ndard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">which I learned all about o= n the Today Show this AM, while doing cardiac rehab</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Hey, do you have a pacemaker/defibrillator like my daughter got in Janua= ry? Nice scar, hunh? Yr frnd, I Hear They Cost $50,0= 00 Apiece, But I Haven't Seen The Bill</FONT></HTML> --part1_fb.371a9715.2b72f9d6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:26:36 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: olgoat <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C2CD4C.7F93B3B0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C2CD4C.7F93B3B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable aquastar is electric boche is gas. local home depot carry both. = however they will freeze in unheated spaces. ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C2CD4C.7F93B3B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>aquastar is electric boche = is gas. =20 local home depot carry both. however they</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will freeze in unheated=20 spaces.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C2CD4C.7F93B3B0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:30:58 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mary Krugman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c7.4a4f69f.2b7306c2_boundary" --part1_1c7.4a4f69f.2b7306c2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 7:27:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > aquastar is electric boche is gas. local home depot carry both. however > they > will freeze in unheated spaces. > So I still need my space heaters, right? Jule --part1_1c7.4a4f69f.2b7306c2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 7:27:35 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">aquastar is electric boch= e is gas. local home depot carry both. however they</FONT><FONT=20= COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SA= NSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">will freeze in unheated=20= spaces.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" S= IZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> So I still need my space heaters, right?<BR> <BR> Jule</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c7.4a4f69f.2b7306c2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:39:23 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: olgoat <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FF_01C2CD4E.48F47A40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01C2CD4E.48F47A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yup. or drain them when not occupied. ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01C2CD4E.48F47A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yup. or drain them when not = occupied.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01C2CD4E.48F47A40-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:56:46 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tap, tap, tap that maple tree In-Reply-To: <000601c2cd18$d813ca40$0000fea9@mainframe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Rudy, Apparently you are not one of the city crowd on this list, or the trees in the park are getting tapped. If that were the case I imagine I'd see it on TV even way up here. So where do you do all this sugaring? Ruth At 8:16 AM -0500 2/5/03, Rudy Christian wrote: >Ruth hopes: > >>>Well, I'll probably be doing it again in a few weeks.<< > >It sure makes it feel like winter is finally loosening its grip when its >time to boil the spiles and find the really poorly made mallet from my >high school shop class. It's our little tradition to use it to tap in >the spiles. > >We started sugaring as a home school project (math, chemistry, botany >and American history all rolled into one!) and never stopped. > >Can't wait! -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:41:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ef.11d074b.2b731754_boundary" --part1_1ef.11d074b.2b731754_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 3:40:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You must keep in mind that when these little wood eating buggers go to meet > their maker, its underground and unseen. So it like it doesn't even happen. > Now sneaking up and sticking electrodes in the south end of a north facing > furry friend is a completely different story. I know that our rabbit would > not take kindly to this type of procedure. > > Shocked and hemroidaled, > > Bryan > > > Bryan, Although it hadn't occurred to me that the conversion of our cellulose-eating relatives from a living to post-living status occurs in a below-grade environment, I hardly see why that should make it preferable that these fellow creatures, put by God or by Evolution, as you prefer, on (and in!) this Earth to help keep our natural resource areas clean are put to death using slow-acting toxins that disrupt the natural growth cycles, as opposed to using a natural (and renewable, in the case of hydroelectric generation) energy resource to induce the far more rapid (which I understand is generally considered an important element of what ordinarily constitutes a relatively "humane") transition to permanent membership in the deceased community of hirsute varmints. Would it not be more offensive to you were termites brought to meet their Maker between the sheets of your bed, than underground? Awaiting your euphemistic response, I remain, Ralph --part1_1ef.11d074b.2b731754_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 3:40:34 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">You must keep in mind that when these little wood eating bu= ggers go to meet their maker, its underground and unseen. So it like it does= n't even happen. Now sneaking up and sticking electrodes in the south end of= a north facing furry friend is a completely different story. I know t= hat our rabbit would not take kindly to this type of procedure.</FONT><FONT=20= COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SA= NSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Shocked and hemroidaled,</FO= NT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAM= ILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Bryan</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"= #000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" F= ACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Bryan,<BR> <BR> Although it hadn't occurred to me that the conversion of our cellulose-eatin= g relatives from a living to post-living status occurs in a below-grade envi= ronment, I hardly see why that should make it preferable that these fellow c= reatures, put by God or by Evolution, as you prefer, on (and in!) this Earth= to help keep our natural resource areas clean are put to death using slow-a= cting toxins that disrupt the natural growth cycles, as opposed to using a n= atural (and renewable, in the case of hydroelectric generation) energy resou= rce to induce the far more rapid (which I understand is generally considered= an important element of what ordinarily constitutes a relatively "humane")=20= transition to permanent membership in the deceased community of hirsute varm= ints.<BR> <BR> Would it not be more offensive to you were termites brought to meet th= eir Maker between the sheets of your bed, than underground?<BR> <BR> Awaiting your euphemistic response, I remain,<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1ef.11d074b.2b731754_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:55:31 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: john <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Masonry Cement or PCL In-Reply-To: <7DA995B56263D6118A9E00065B3929D9023415FB@NY1POST> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Masonry cement mortars (masonry cement + sand+water) are made from proprietary mortar mixes called masonry cement. The manufacturer combines into one bag portland cement with such materials materials as natural cement, finely ground limestone or hydrated lime, an air-entraining agent and gypsum to regulate the time of set. The principal advantage of of masonry cement mortar is its convenience in mixing, and generally good working properties. However, since the masonry cement standard ASTM C-91 does not limit the additives, ad does the portland cement standard, each manufacturer has the option of varying the types and extent of additives. This makes it difficult to predict the performance of masonry assemblies erected with masonry cements in general, although laboratory test results from individual manufactures for specific cements can serve as a guide. The short answer is that it is easy to use masonry cements. If individual components had to be blended on the job site the results would be even harder to predict. The materials work well for new construction. I do not recommend masonry cements for very soft old brick lime and sand would be safer. On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 04:40 PM, Hammarberg, Eric wrote: > Folks, > > I am trying to find out why masonry cement (MC) is on the market when > portland cement / lime (PCL) mortars appear, at least to me, to perform > better and more reliably? > > As many of us know, MC is typically a mix of portland cement, > pulverized > limestone and "proprietary admixtures" which manufacturers seldom > (never) > will divulge. PCL is portland cement and lime, period. > > Can anybody shed light on this for me? > > Thanks, > > Eric Hammarberg > Still Director of Preservation > Associate > Still at LZA Technology > 641 Avenue of the Americas > New York, NY 10011-2014 > Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct) > Mobile: 917.439.3537 > Fax: 917.661.8161 (Direct) > email: [log in to unmask] > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > The information in this email and any attachments may contain > confidential information that is intended solely for the > attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or > any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or > retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. > If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender > immediately, and delete this message. > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > John N. Fugelso, Editor Preservation Trades News Letter "PTNEWS" 530 State Street Lancaster, PA 17601 [log in to unmask] -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:50:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b9.2df5df1f.2b73196f_boundary" --part1_b9.2df5df1f.2b73196f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 3:21:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Do the PETA people know about this? Hopefully they will find out and maybe eat the baited wood in order to save the termites. Steve --part1_b9.2df5df1f.2b73196f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 3:21:24 PM Eastern= Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Do the PETA people know about this?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FON= T COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"= SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Hopefully they will find out and maybe eat the baited wood in order to save=20= the termites.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_b9.2df5df1f.2b73196f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:01:23 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Once-Delicate Ralph MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a6.33975d6a.2b731bf3_boundary" --part1_a6.33975d6a.2b731bf3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 6:36:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Hey, do you have a pacemaker/defibrillator like my daughter got in January? > Nice scar, hunh? Yr frnd, I Hear They Cost $50,000 Apiece, But I Haven't > Seen The Bill Negatory, just a scar. Defects were repaired successfully (to date, anyway) without permanent installation of non-original equipment. Hope hers was equally successful. Also saw no bills. Sign me, Keeps on Tickin' --part1_a6.33975d6a.2b731bf3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 6:36:22 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Hey, do you have a pacemaker/defibrillator like my da= ughter got in January? Nice scar, hunh? Yr frnd, I H= ear They Cost $50,000 Apiece, But I Haven't Seen The Bill</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Negatory, just a scar. Defects were repaired successfully (to date, an= yway) without permanent installation of non-original equipment. Hope h= ers was equally successful.<BR> <BR> Also saw no bills.<BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> <BR> Keeps on Tickin'</FONT></HTML> --part1_a6.33975d6a.2b731bf3_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:13:26 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tap, tap, tap that maple tree MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_198.152d5581.2b731ec6_boundary" --part1_198.152d5581.2b731ec6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/03 8:35:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Apparently you are not one of the city crowd on this list, or the > trees in the park are getting tapped. Hey, Ruth can we tap regular old mapletrees in central park? Or is theremoreto it than that? Yrs, Buttermilk --part1_198.152d5581.2b731ec6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/03 8:35:39 PM Eastern Sta= ndard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Apparently you are not one of t= he city crowd on this list, or the<BR> trees in the park are getting tapped. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Hey, Ruth can we tap regular old mapletrees in central park? Or is theremore= to it than that?<BR> Yrs, Buttermilk</FONT></HTML> --part1_198.152d5581.2b731ec6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:17:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_108.1eede817.2b732ddd_boundary" --part1_108.1eede817.2b732ddd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 7:27:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > aquastar is electric boche is gas. local home depot carry both. however > they > will freeze in unheated spaces. > Dear Goat Person, Although I don't believe we've met, thank you for the above. Do I want one, and can I rely on one to provide copious amounts of hot water NOW (but not necessarily instantly) in lieu of the standard 75 gal Rheem which appears to be on its way to Water Heater Heaven after about 15 years? Kweeping in mind that my detached 3 story residence is located in northern Noo Joisey, and that said residence is occupied full time, year-round by 6 people, 5 of whom complain incessantly. Thanking you in advance, I remain, Ralph --part1_108.1eede817.2b732ddd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 7:27:35 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">aquastar is electric boch= e is gas. local home depot carry both. however they</FONT><FONT=20= COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SA= NSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">will freeze in unheated=20= spaces.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" S= IZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Dear Goat Person,<BR> <BR> Although I don't believe we've met, thank you for the above. <BR> <BR> Do I want one, and can I rely on one to provide copious amounts of hot water= NOW (but not necessarily instantly) in lieu of the standard 75 gal Rheem wh= ich appears to be on its way to Water Heater Heaven after about 15 years?&nb= sp; <BR> <BR> Kweeping in mind that my detached 3 story residence is located in northern N= oo Joisey, and that said residence is occupied full time, year-round b= y 6 people, 5 of whom complain incessantly. <BR> <BR> Thanking you in advance, I remain,<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_108.1eede817.2b732ddd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:21:16 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_5f.3484e647.2b732eac_boundary" --part1_5f.3484e647.2b732eac_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 8:51:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Hopefully they will find out and maybe eat the baited wood in order to save > the termites. > Now you're talking. Or they could insert the electrodes into their own recta (recti?) by way of proving the cruelties they allege. Ralph --part1_5f.3484e647.2b732eac_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 8:51:24 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Hopefully they will find out and maybe eat the baited=20= wood in order to save the termites.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Now you're talking. Or they could insert the electrodes into their own= recta (recti?) by way of proving the cruelties they allege.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_5f.3484e647.2b732eac_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:25:46 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tap, tap, tap that maple tree MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_181.166c13c1.2b732fba_boundary" --part1_181.166c13c1.2b732fba_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 9:14:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Hey, Ruth can we tap regular old mapletrees in central park? Or is > theremoreto it than that? > Chris, If Henry Kissinger could tap telephones, you can tap maple trees in Central Park. But I can't tap dance. Ralph PS-- So what did Safire have to say about the new coinage, huh? Well? He didn't call yet, or anything. He better not try to ignore me the way he did when I pointed out his erroneous reference to "cement sidewalks." --part1_181.166c13c1.2b732fba_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 9:14:03 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Hey, Ruth can we tap regular old mapletrees in centra= l park? Or is theremoreto it than that?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Chris,<BR> <BR> If Henry Kissinger could tap telephones, you can tap maple trees in Central=20= Park.<BR> But I can't tap dance.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> PS-- So what did Safire have to say about the new coinage, huh? Well?=20= He didn't call yet, or anything. He better not try to ignore me the wa= y he did when I pointed out his erroneous reference to "cement sidewalks."</= FONT></HTML> --part1_181.166c13c1.2b732fba_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:49:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: No, the plural is "rectangles"... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_84.932ef2e.2b733533_boundary" --part1_84.932ef2e.2b733533_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 10:21:54 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: > Now you're talking. Or they could insert the electrodes into their own > recta (recti?) --part1_84.932ef2e.2b733533_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 10:21:54 PM, [log in to unmask] OM writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Now you're talking. Or th= ey could insert the electrodes into their own recta (recti?) </FONT></HTML> --part1_84.932ef2e.2b733533_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:31:56 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" No tar kettles here Ralph. When I was a kid my Dad had a 5 gal bucket of tar he got somewhere cheap. I used to play with it in summer when it would get to the stage where I could scoop out a handful and stretch it out. Ruth PS: We didn't have many toys At 10:27 AM -0500 2/5/03, Ralph Walter wrote: In a message dated 2/5/2003 7:27:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Well, I'll probably be doing it again in a few weeks. Ruth Ruth, Advise you attempt to avoid it. Ditto falling into tar kettles. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:58:28 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DB6497D5E387DF20028259A5" --------------DB6497D5E387DF20028259A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ralph Walter wrote: > > Would it not be more offensive to you were termites brought to meet > their Maker between the sheets of your bed, than underground? > AMEN, you got that right. ..... .. .. .... hey .. wait a darn minute ... Are you talking about Toxic Vapors?? No need to bring the U.N. in on this O.K.? I. Rack --------------DB6497D5E387DF20028259A5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <p>Ralph Walter wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE> <br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Would it not be more offensive to you were termites brought to meet their Maker between the sheets of your bed, than underground?</font></font></font> <br> </blockquote> <p><br><font color="#000099">AMEN, you got that right. ..... .. .. .... hey .. wait a darn minute ... Are you talking about Toxic Vapors?? No need to bring the U.N. in on this O.K.?</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">I. Rack</font></html> --------------DB6497D5E387DF20028259A5-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:01:48 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tap, tap, tap that maple tree In-Reply-To: <a04310103ba678ce4ed84@[216.114.180.218]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Hi Rudy, Apparently you are not one of the city crowd on this list, or the trees in the park are getting tapped. If that were the case I imagine I'd see it on TV even way up here. So where do you do all this sugaring? Ruth<< We have 54 acres of fallow land and woods in north central Ohio. Those who have been here or have known us for long call it the center of the universe. Ohio was heavily logged and what we have now is re-growth forest in two stages. The older is beyond the old property line and has never been grazed or planted as far as we can tell. The rest is where fields were "squared off" to accommodate tractors with multiple bottom plows. That's were the best sugar maples are. We are currently reconstructing an 1815 timber frame church here (required content) for a home. It will be a shame to leave shack sweet shack. Rudy -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:07:32 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tap, tap, tap that maple tree In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2CDB6.CDC18930" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2CDB6.CDC18930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Hey, Ruth can we tap regular old mapletrees in central park? Or is theremoreto it than that? Yrs, Buttermilk<< Rudy here. Any maple tree will work, but the true "sugar maple" gets its name from the high sugar content in the sap. It still takes about 50 gallons of sap to get a gallon of syrup, but it's a great way to get moisture back in the house. We just take the tea kettle off and put the sap pan on. In the great white north, they also make birch syrup. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2CDB6.CDC18930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2CDB6.CCDC5950"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial = FAMILY=3DSERIF><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;background: white'>>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;color:black;background:white'>Hey, Ruth can we tap regular old mapletrees in central park? Or is theremoreto it than that?<br> Yrs,<span class=3DGramE> Buttermilk</span></span></font><font = size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;background:white'><<<o:p></o:p= ></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span = class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'>Rudy here.</span></font></span><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> Any maple tree = will work, but the true “sugar maple” gets its name from the high = sugar content in the sap. It still takes about 50 gallons of sap to get a = gallon of syrup, but it’s a great way to get moisture back in the house. We = just take the tea kettle off and put the sap pan = on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In the great = white north, they also make birch syrup.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2CDB6.CDC18930-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:18:37 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: No, the plural is "rectangles"... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6.93d2f8c.2b73baad_boundary" --part1_6.93d2f8c.2b73baad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2003 10:49:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >> Now you're talking. Or they could insert the electrodes into their own >> recta (recti?) > Speak for yourself, John. --part1_6.93d2f8c.2b73baad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/5/2003 10:49:44 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style= =3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PAD= DING-LEFT: 5px">Now you're talking. Or they could insert the electrode= s into their own recta (recti?) </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Speak for yourself, John.</F= ONT></HTML> --part1_6.93d2f8c.2b73baad_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:31:41 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_153.1b680d9b.2b73bdbd_boundary" --part1_153.1b680d9b.2b73bdbd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 7:44:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > No tar kettles here Ralph. When I was a kid my Dad had a 5 gal bucket of > tar he got somewhere cheap. I used to play with it in summer when it would > get to the stage where I could scoop out a handful and stretch it out. > Ruth > > PS: We didn't have many toys > Ruth, I wouldn't expect you to have your own, unless Da was a roofing contractor. Does seem rather strange to me that they'd let you play with the stuff (even the just-warm-in summer stuff, as opposed to the boiling stuff from a kettle) from a can. Pretty sticky and messy and hard to clean off for anybody, much less a little girl. No doubt you had better things to occupy yourselves with than toys. My mother (the South GA farm girl who moved to Los Angeles and married the Hebe) once said that when her mother came from GA to visit us in CA, that Granny was horrified (well, less than approving, ) that we had so MANY toys. Could explain a lot of things about Mrs. Ralph Seniorette. Ralph --part1_153.1b680d9b.2b73bdbd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 7:44:16 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">No tar kettles here Ralph. = ; When I was a kid my Dad had a 5 gal bucket of<BR> tar he got somewhere cheap. I used to play with it in summer when it w= ould<BR> get to the stage where I could scoop out a handful and stretch it out. = Ruth<BR> <BR> PS: We didn't have many toys<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ruth,<BR> <BR> I wouldn't expect you to have your own, unless Da was a roofing contractor.&= nbsp; Does seem rather strange to me that they'd let you play with the stuff= (even the just-warm-in summer stuff, as opposed to the boiling stuff from a= kettle) from a can. Pretty sticky and messy and hard to clean off for= anybody, much less a little girl.<BR> <BR> No doubt you had better things to occupy yourselves with than toys. My mothe= r (the South GA farm girl who moved to Los Angeles and married the Hebe) onc= e said that when her mother came from GA to visit us in CA, that Grann= y was horrified (well, less than approving, ) that we had so MANY toys. = ; Could explain a lot of things about Mrs. Ralph Seniorette.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_153.1b680d9b.2b73bdbd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:39:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_133.1aafe4c4.2b73bfa5_boundary" --part1_133.1aafe4c4.2b73bfa5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Once a good shopping mall is found, these little 'shop till they drop' termites tell their shopping friends of the good bargains to be found. Soon everyone is shopping there. OK Bryan... now please please please connect this lovely little fable in with Martha Stewart and Ralph Loren! I'm looking forward to "World According to Termite". ][<en --part1_133.1aafe4c4.2b73bfa5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#3333ff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Once a good shopping mall is found,= these little 'shop till they drop' termites tell their shopping friends of=20= the good bargains to be found. Soon everyone is shopping there.</FONT><FONT=20= COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SA= NSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> OK Bryan... now please please please connect this lovely little fable in wit= h Martha Stewart and Ralph Loren! I'm looking forward to "World According to= Termite". ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_133.1aafe4c4.2b73bfa5_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:40:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_10c.1f0c13ef.2b73bfe0_boundary" --part1_10c.1f0c13ef.2b73bfe0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 7:56:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > AMEN, you got that right. ..... .. .. .... hey .. wait a darn minute ... > Are you talking about Toxic Vapors?? No need to bring the U.N. in on this > O.K.? > > I. Rack > > I don't see that the means by which you premedititatively deprive God's Own Termites of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness in your bed makes any difference. The Frogs and all those other candy-frassed, lily-livered foreigners at the UN would....well, who knows what they'd do? [I know what they'd do: talk about it and then do nothing, but it would still be wrong]. You get my drift. And you better not give any termites YOUR drift, or we'll be calling John Ashcroft. Wait: does that word need an apostrophe? Ralph (not sure the drugs have kicked in yet) --part1_10c.1f0c13ef.2b73bfe0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 7:56:48 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">AMEN, you got that right. ..... .. .. .... hey .. wai= t a darn minute ... Are you talking about Toxic Vapors?? No need to bring th= e U.N. in on this O.K.?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-C= OLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I. Rack</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I don't see that the means by which you premedititatively deprive God's Own=20= Termites of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness in your bed makes a= ny difference. The Frogs and all those other candy-frassed, lily-liver= ed foreigners at the UN would....well, who knows what they'd do? [I kn= ow what they'd do: talk about it and then do nothing, but it would still be=20= wrong].<BR> <BR> You get my drift. And you better not give any termites YOUR drift, or we'll=20= be calling John Ashcroft. Wait: does that word need an apostrophe?<BR> <BR> Ralph (not sure the drugs have kicked in yet)</FONT></HTML> --part1_10c.1f0c13ef.2b73bfe0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:44:17 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_zWYWqmaNrtwLC4kDv+lgTg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_zWYWqmaNrtwLC4kDv+lgTg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT But what about all the poor sweet little innocent Iraqi termites? I mean, they live like us already, don't they? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini In a message dated 2/6/2003 7:56:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: AMEN, you got that right. ..... .. .. .... hey .. wait a darn minute ... Are you talking about Toxic Vapors?? No need to bring the U.N. in on this O.K.? I. Rack I don't see that the means by which you premedititatively deprive God's Own Termites of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness in your bed makes any difference. The Frogs and all those other candy-frassed, lily-livered foreigners at the UN would....well, who knows what they'd do? [I know what they'd do: talk about it and then do nothing, but it would still be wrong]. You get my drift. And you better not give any termites YOUR drift, or we'll be calling John Ashcroft. Wait: does that word need an apostrophe? Ralph (not sure the drugs have kicked in yet) --Boundary_(ID_zWYWqmaNrtwLC4kDv+lgTg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>But what about all the poor sweet little innocent Iraqi termites? I mean, they live like us already, don't they? </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:40 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: frass in cp termite termini</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/6/2003 7:56:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000099 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">AMEN, you got that right. ..... .. .. .... hey .. wait a darn minute ... Are you talking about Toxic Vapors?? No need to bring the U.N. in on this O.K.?</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000099 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I. Rack</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I don't see that the means by which you premedititatively deprive God's Own Termites of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness in your bed makes any difference. The Frogs and all those other candy-frassed, lily-livered foreigners at the UN would....well, who knows what they'd do? [I know what they'd do: talk about it and then do nothing, but it would still be wrong].<BR><BR>You get my drift. And you better not give any termites YOUR drift, or we'll be calling John Ashcroft. Wait: does that word need an apostrophe?<BR><BR>Ralph (not sure the drugs have kicked in yet)</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_zWYWqmaNrtwLC4kDv+lgTg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:44:16 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_18a.15c75466.2b73c0b0_boundary" --part1_18a.15c75466.2b73c0b0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You must keep in mind that when these little wood eating buggers go to meet their maker I, for one, think that we should bring this all to the attention of PETA. I would not be shocked if termites do not want to have more quality time with their familes and live longer lives. Hopefully Ralph will go first on calling PETA, that is, since he is already a TV person. ][<en --part1_18a.15c75466.2b73c0b0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">You must keep in mind that when the= se little wood eating buggers go to meet their maker</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I, for one, think that we should bring this all to the attention of PETA. I=20= would not be shocked if termites do not want to have more quality time with=20= their familes and live longer lives. Hopefully Ralph will go first on callin= g PETA, that is, since he is already a TV person. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_18a.15c75466.2b73c0b0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:45:41 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tap, tap, tap that maple tree MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c8.332f99fc.2b73c105_boundary" --part1_c8.332f99fc.2b73c105_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:02:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > north central Ohio. Those who have been here or have known us for long call > it the center of the universe. > Rudy, There are a lot of Manhattanites (and probably some sodomites, and Saddamites, too) who consider the center of the universe to be elsewhere. Ralph --part1_c8.332f99fc.2b73c105_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:02:19 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">north central Ohio. Those who h= ave been here or have known us for long call it the center of the universe.<= BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Rudy,<BR> <BR> There are a lot of Manhattanites (and probably some sodomites, and Saddamite= s, too) who consider the center of the universe to be elsewhere.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_c8.332f99fc.2b73c105_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:46:55 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Playing Games, was Burning Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1da.1cdb4ad.2b73c14f_boundary" --part1_1da.1cdb4ad.2b73c14f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How incestuous! I was led to believe that was a sign of someone who didn't reach very far for new ideas How far back do you want them to reach? Making it possibly worse, he is a prof at CUNY... meaning he did not reach very far away from the nest, either. Termite U anyone? ][<en --part1_1da.1cdb4ad.2b73c14f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">How incestuous! I was led to believe that was a=20= sign of someone who didn't<BR> reach very far for new ideas</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> How far back do you want them to reach? Making it possibly worse, he is a pr= of at CUNY... meaning he did not reach very far away from the nest, either.=20= Termite U anyone? ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_1da.1cdb4ad.2b73c14f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:47:44 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+Ek/TvE4XAq4ipfIKx27Jg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_+Ek/TvE4XAq4ipfIKx27Jg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Personally, I have a very fine termite skin coat at home, and I don't want some yellow bellied sapsucker PETA person spray painting me! ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Follett To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: Re: cp termite stations? You must keep in mind that when these little wood eating buggers go to meet their maker I, for one, think that we should bring this all to the attention of PETA. I would not be shocked if termites do not want to have more quality time with their familes and live longer lives. Hopefully Ralph will go first on calling PETA, that is, since he is already a TV person. ][<en --Boundary_(ID_+Ek/TvE4XAq4ipfIKx27Jg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Personally, I have a very fine termite skin coat at home, and I don't want some yellow bellied sapsucker PETA person spray painting me!</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:44 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cp termite stations?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000099 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">You must keep in mind that when these little wood eating buggers go to meet their maker <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>I, for one, think that we should bring this all to the attention of PETA. I would not be shocked if termites do not want to have more quality time with their familes and live longer lives. Hopefully Ralph will go first on calling PETA, that is, since he is already a TV person. ][<en</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_+Ek/TvE4XAq4ipfIKx27Jg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:51:22 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Burning Man, Redux... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_143.9c07f65.2b73c25a_boundary" --part1_143.9c07f65.2b73c25a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was disappointed that I couldn't set off fireworks in the mud and burn piles of dry leaves Sharpshooter: So, are you interested in an expedition to Burning Man? I see it as one of those things possibly we will later feel we need to have done, like Woodstock. On another note, Burbank, Ohio is know for raging bonfires. Or is it the EXPLOSION that you covet? Or rockets, we can do rockets in NYC in Brooklyn. ][<en --part1_143.9c07f65.2b73c25a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">I was disappointed that I couldn't set off firew= orks in the mud and burn piles of dry leaves</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Sharpshooter: So, are you interested in an expedition to Burning Man? I see=20= it as one of those things possibly we will later feel we need to have done,=20= like Woodstock. On another note, Burbank, Ohio is know for raging bonfires.=20= Or is it the EXPLOSION that you covet? Or rockets, we can do rockets in NYC=20= in Brooklyn. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_143.9c07f65.2b73c25a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:52:24 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_93.2a28b902.2b73c298_boundary" --part1_93.2a28b902.2b73c298_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:45:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > But what about all the poor sweet little innocent Iraqi termites? I mean, > they live like us already, don't they? > Pam, I'd like to think that we Americans live even BETTER than Iraqi termites, even the sweet ones. Besides, Saddam's probably already had uncaring sex (or another fate worse than death) with them. The bugger. Ralph --part1_93.2a28b902.2b73c298_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:45:22 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">But what about all the poor swe= et little innocent Iraqi termites? I mean, they live like us already,=20= don't they? </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:= #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Pam,<BR> <BR> I'd like to think that we Americans live even BETTER than Iraqi termites, ev= en the sweet ones. Besides, Saddam's probably already had uncaring sex= (or another fate worse than death) with them. The bugger.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_93.2a28b902.2b73c298_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:55:12 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_34.34bdd010.2b73c340_boundary" --part1_34.34bdd010.2b73c340_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:45:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Hopefully Ralph will go first on calling PETA, that is, since he is already > a TV person. Ken, I watch WETA (especially the shows with the models in fur coats). Somebody else will have to call PETA. But remember to send your Pinhead dues to me, before contributing to either -ETA. Ralph --part1_34.34bdd010.2b73c340_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:45:47 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hopefully Ralph will go first o= n calling PETA, that is, since he is already a TV person.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT= ><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMIL= Y=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ken,<BR> <BR> I <U>watch</U> WETA (especially the shows with the models in fur coats).&nbs= p; Somebody else will have to <U>call</U> PETA.<BR> <BR> But remember to send your Pinhead dues to me, before contributing to either=20= -ETA.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_34.34bdd010.2b73c340_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:57:51 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D06380379B2F6233F059C66D" --------------D06380379B2F6233F059C66D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Image]"Yum-yum dead stinky stuff." ========================= Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/6/2003 7:56:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > >> AMEN, you got that right. ..... .. .. .... hey .. wait a darn minute >> ... Are you talking about Toxic Vapors?? No need to bring the U.N. in >> on this O.K.? >> >> I. Rack >> > > I don't see that the means by which you premedititatively deprive God's > Own Termites of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness in your bed makes > any difference. The Frogs and all those other candy-frassed, > lily-livered foreigners at the UN would....well, who knows what they'd > do? [I know what they'd do: talk about it and then do nothing, but it > would still be wrong]. > > You get my drift. And you better not give any termites YOUR drift, or > we'll be calling John Ashcroft. Wait: does that word need an apostrophe? > > Ralph (not sure the drugs have kicked in yet) --------------D06380379B2F6233F059C66D Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------67D4A444F7187180D003FA9B" --------------67D4A444F7187180D003FA9B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <img SRC="cid:part1.3E4269DF.7CBCFBF9@PRGinc.com" BORDER=0 height=79 width=82><font color="#009900">"Yum-yum dead stinky stuff."</font> <p>========================= <p>Ralph Walter wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>In a message dated 2/6/2003 7:56:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font> <br> <blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="Arial"><font color="#000099"><font size=-1>AMEN, you got that right. ..... .. .. .... hey .. wait a darn minute ... Are you talking about Toxic Vapors?? No need to bring the U.N. in on this O.K.?</font></font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000099"><font size=-1>I. Rack</font></font></font> <br> </blockquote> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>I don't see that the means by which you premedititatively deprive God's Own Termites of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness in your bed makes any difference. The Frogs and all those other candy-frassed, lily-livered foreigners at the UN would....well, who knows what they'd do? [I know what they'd do: talk about it and then do nothing, but it would still be wrong].</font></font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>You get my drift. And you better not give any termites YOUR drift, or we'll be calling John Ashcroft. 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--------------67D4A444F7187180D003FA9B-- --------------D06380379B2F6233F059C66D-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:00:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4b.2a6182bb.2b73c494_boundary" --part1_4b.2a6182bb.2b73c494_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:47:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Personally, I have a very fine termite skin coat at home, and I don't want > some yellow bellied sapsucker PETA person spray painting me! > Pam, Then you must have LOVED the article in the Times the other day about some Frog (or wog, at least) who decorated the interior of a reception room in some palace in Brussels with the carapaces of Asian beetles. LOTS of them. On second thought, maybe Rudy's really does have a better handle on the center of the universe than the New Yorkers. Ralph --part1_4b.2a6182bb.2b73c494_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:47:48 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Personally, I have a very fine=20= termite skin coat at home, and I don't want some yellow bellied sapsucker PE= TA person spray painting me!</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGRO= UND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">= <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Pam,<BR> <BR> Then you must have LOVED the article in the Times the other day about some F= rog (or wog, at least) who decorated the interior of a reception room in som= e palace in Brussels with the carapaces of Asian beetles. LOTS of them.<BR> <BR> On second thought, maybe Rudy's really does have a better handle on the cent= er of the universe than the New Yorkers.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_4b.2a6182bb.2b73c494_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:01:35 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_U8+UOQ55mWKtaiK79+SE8A)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_U8+UOQ55mWKtaiK79+SE8A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Considering the size of the termite queen compared to all the sweet sticky ones, I wouldn't be surprized if the man has a harem of termite queens. - Pam PS - too bad I couldn't draw a tongue in cheek on that last one. ;-^) might do it! ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:52 AM Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:45:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: But what about all the poor sweet little innocent Iraqi termites? I mean, they live like us already, don't they? Pam, I'd like to think that we Americans live even BETTER than Iraqi termites, even the sweet ones. Besides, Saddam's probably already had uncaring sex (or another fate worse than death) with them. The bugger. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_U8+UOQ55mWKtaiK79+SE8A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Considering the size of the termite queen compared to all the sweet sticky ones, I wouldn't be surprized if the man has a harem of termite queens.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>PS - too bad I couldn't draw a tongue in cheek on that last one. ;-^) might do it!</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:52 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: frass in cp termite termini</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:45:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">But what about all the poor sweet little innocent Iraqi termites? I mean, they live like us already, don't they? </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Pam,<BR><BR>I'd like to think that we Americans live even BETTER than Iraqi termites, even the sweet ones. Besides, Saddam's probably already had uncaring sex (or another fate worse than death) with them. The bugger.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_U8+UOQ55mWKtaiK79+SE8A)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:02:46 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mSErsplKTgNkSGD9XzcVIQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_mSErsplKTgNkSGD9XzcVIQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ralph - Didn't see that one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the last few days. They've actually been keeping me busy at work. Something Xerox never understood how to do. DOH - did I type that outloud? - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: Re: cp termite stations? In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:47:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Personally, I have a very fine termite skin coat at home, and I don't want some yellow bellied sapsucker PETA person spray painting me! Pam, Then you must have LOVED the article in the Times the other day about some Frog (or wog, at least) who decorated the interior of a reception room in some palace in Brussels with the carapaces of Asian beetles. LOTS of them. On second thought, maybe Rudy's really does have a better handle on the center of the universe than the New Yorkers. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_mSErsplKTgNkSGD9XzcVIQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Ralph -</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Didn't see that one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the last few days. They've actually been keeping me busy at work. Something Xerox never understood how to do. DOH - did I type that outloud?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:00 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cp termite stations?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:47:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">Personally, I have a very fine termite skin coat at home, and I don't want some yellow bellied sapsucker PETA person spray painting me!</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Pam,<BR><BR>Then you must have LOVED the article in the Times the other day about some Frog (or wog, at least) who decorated the interior of a reception room in some palace in Brussels with the carapaces of Asian beetles. LOTS of them.<BR><BR>On second thought, maybe Rudy's really does have a better handle on the center of the universe than the New Yorkers.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_mSErsplKTgNkSGD9XzcVIQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:07:56 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1f1.1283215.2b73c63c_boundary" --part1_1f1.1283215.2b73c63c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:02:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Considering the size of the termite queen compared to all the sweet sticky > ones, I wouldn't be surprized if the man has a harem of termite queens. > Termite queens, termite queens..... maybe, after Saddam is out of the picture, they'd like to be introduced to Pyrate King. Think of the poetry that could ensue. Omar Khayyam would be eclipsed. Or was that Omar Sharif? Ralph --part1_1f1.1283215.2b73c63c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:02:01 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Considering the size of the ter= mite queen compared to all the sweet sticky ones, I wouldn't be surprized if= the man has a harem of termite queens.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"=20= LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Termite queens, termite queens..... maybe, after Saddam is out of the pictur= e, they'd like to be introduced to Pyrate King. Think of the poe= try that could ensue. Omar Khayyam would be eclipsed. Or was tha= t Omar Sharif?<BR> <BR> Ralph </FONT></HTML> --part1_1f1.1283215.2b73c63c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:09:55 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Playing Games, was Burning Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_120.1d6ae5e9.2b73c6b3_boundary" --part1_120.1d6ae5e9.2b73c6b3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sleep counts as "something [that] happens" in this case? Or did you mean driving on the LIE? Ralph: My irreverent implication was meant that nothing happens in Modern Architectural History. ][<en --part1_120.1d6ae5e9.2b73c6b3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Sleep counts as "something [that] happens" in this cas= e? Or did you mean driving on the LIE?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Ralph: My irreverent implication was meant that nothing happens in Modern Ar= chitectural History. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_120.1d6ae5e9.2b73c6b3_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:12:24 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_49.2a82fe32.2b73c748_boundary" --part1_49.2a82fe32.2b73c748_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:03:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ralph - > Pam, > Didn't see that one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the last few days. I > suppose one could characterize it as tasteful and distasteful at the same > time. They've actually been keeping me busy at work. So I guess today isn't > one of "those" days, huh? Something Xerox never understood how to do. You > showed them, didn't you! DOH - did I type that outloud? In my capacity as > a Laurel and Hardy fan, I think Dan Castellanetta deserves great credit for > reviving that expression. > > - Pam -Ralph --part1_49.2a82fe32.2b73c748_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:03:27 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ralph -</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#= 000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FA= CE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <B>Pam,</B> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Didn't see that one, and I'v= e been a bit of a lurker the last few days. <B>I suppose one could character= ize it as tasteful and distasteful at the same time.</B> They've actually be= en keeping me busy at work. <B>So I guess today isn't one of "those" days, h= uh?</B> Something Xerox never understood how to do. <B>You showed them= , didn't you! </B> DOH - did I type that outloud? <B>In my capaci= ty as a Laurel and Hardy fan</B>, <B>I think Dan Castellanetta deserves grea= t credit for reviving that expression.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"=20= LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">- Pam</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FO= NT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>-Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_49.2a82fe32.2b73c748_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:15:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Playing Games, was Burning Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_124.1dfafad1.2b73c80b_boundary" --part1_124.1dfafad1.2b73c80b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:11:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > My irreverent implication was meant that nothing happens in Modern > Architectural History. ][<en Ken, Oh. [Terse enough for ya, Sharpshooter?] Ralph --part1_124.1dfafad1.2b73c80b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:11:04 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My irreverent implication was m= eant that nothing happens in Modern Architectural History. ][<en</FONT><F= ONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ken,<BR> <BR> Oh. [Terse enough for ya, Sharpshooter?]<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_124.1dfafad1.2b73c80b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:17:00 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_nno3ZjETaOwN8hgiyczCcA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_nno3ZjETaOwN8hgiyczCcA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:12 AM Subject: Re: cp termite stations? In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:03:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ralph - Pam, Ralph - Didn't see that one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the last few days. I suppose one could characterize it as tasteful and distasteful at the same time. Only if you get caught. They've actually been keeping me busy at work. So I guess today isn't one of "those" days, huh? The brain just hasn't kicked in yet. Something Xerox never understood how to do. You showed them, didn't you! Better to officially quit than wait around for the layoff date. DOH - did I type that outloud? In my capacity as a Laurel and Hardy fan, I think Dan Castellanetta deserves great credit for reviving that expression. That's another fine mess you've gotten us into, Ralph. - Pam -Ralph --Boundary_(ID_nno3ZjETaOwN8hgiyczCcA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:12 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cp termite stations?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:03:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"> <DIV>Ralph -</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><B>Pam,</B> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><STRONG><FONT color=#008000>Ralph -</FONT></STRONG><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Didn't see that one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the last few days. <B>I suppose one could characterize it as tasteful and distasteful at the same time.</B> <FONT color=#008000><STRONG>Only if you get caught. </STRONG></FONT>They've actually been keeping me busy at work. <B>So I guess today isn't one of "those" days, huh? <FONT color=#008000>The brain just hasn't kicked in yet.</FONT></B> Something Xerox never understood how to do. <B>You showed them, didn't you! <FONT color=#008000>Better to officially quit than wait around for the layoff date. </FONT></B> DOH - did I type that outloud? <B>In my capacity as a Laurel and Hardy fan</B>, <B>I think Dan Castellanetta deserves great credit for reviving that expression. <FONT color=#008000>That's another fine mess you've gotten us into, Ralph.</FONT></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B><BR> <BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">- Pam</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><B>-Ralph</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_nno3ZjETaOwN8hgiyczCcA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:19:32 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6d.936925c.2b73c8f4_boundary" --part1_6d.936925c.2b73c8f4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PS: We didn't have many toys Ruth: I spent a great deal of time playing with rocks, sticks, dirt and leaves. We had an abundance of "found" toys. ][<en --part1_6d.936925c.2b73c8f4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">PS: We didn't have many toys</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ruth: I spent a great deal of time playing with rocks, sticks, dirt and leav= es. We had an abundance of "found" toys. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_6d.936925c.2b73c8f4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:20:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c.93bd8f5.2b73c938_boundary" --part1_c.93bd8f5.2b73c938_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you talking about Toxic Vapors?? No need to bring the U.N. in on this O.K.? Oh, I get it... mobile chemical warfare plants... --part1_c.93bd8f5.2b73c938_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Are you talking about Toxic Vapors?= ? No need to bring the U.N. in on this O.K.?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"=20= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Oh, I get it... mobile chemical warfare plants...</FONT></HTML> --part1_c.93bd8f5.2b73c938_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:27:02 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+3F6g3BvcvTvuaEq7Nc3wA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_+3F6g3BvcvTvuaEq7Nc3wA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The dirt pile was the best, especially with the lego parts and tonka trucks. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Follett To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... PS: We didn't have many toys Ruth: I spent a great deal of time playing with rocks, sticks, dirt and leaves. We had an abundance of "found" toys. ][<en --Boundary_(ID_+3F6g3BvcvTvuaEq7Nc3wA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>The dirt pile was the best, especially with the lego parts and tonka trucks.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:19 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907...</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">PS: We didn't have many toys <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Ruth: I spent a great deal of time playing with rocks, sticks, dirt and leaves. We had an abundance of "found" toys. ][<en</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_+3F6g3BvcvTvuaEq7Nc3wA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:50:47 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Dirt Piles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ba.36c2ab62.2b73d047_boundary" --part1_ba.36c2ab62.2b73d047_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The dirt pile was the best, especially with the lego parts and tonka trucks. My entire life is structured around playing in a dirt pile. The models of social order that a child imposes on a collection of pebbles hand sifted from the dirt suddenly becomes a BP community. My first recognition of building fences was pushing sticks into the ground. My first constructions of buildings were mounds, with a stick for a chimney, later morphed into flat rocks with supporting walls of smaller stones. Yes, there were commercial additions, Tonka and Lego, but they always took a back role to the fabrications of the imagination that a plenitude of natural objects found in the woods provided. It was where we congregated and held our community of children free of the structure of school and free of adults. And then there were the wars. When we would get bored or tired of each other we would drop the biggest rocks on our communities to wipe them out. Sometimes we got carried away and threw rocks and dirt at each other. When the pile was wiped clean we would start over and rebuild a new world. I find the feel of dirt in my hair comforting. Let the pebbles speak. ][<en --part1_ba.36c2ab62.2b73d047_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">The dirt pile was the best, especially with the lego p= arts and tonka trucks.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> My entire life is structured around playing in a dirt pile. The models of so= cial order that a child imposes on a collection of pebbles hand sifted from=20= the dirt suddenly becomes a BP community. My first recognition of building f= ences was pushing sticks into the ground. My first constructions of building= s were mounds, with a stick for a chimney, later morphed into flat rocks wit= h supporting walls of smaller stones. Yes, there were commercial additions,=20= Tonka and Lego, but they always took a back role to the fabrications of the=20= imagination that a plenitude of natural objects found in the woods provided.= It was where we congregated and held our community of children free of the=20= structure of school and free of adults. And then there were the wars. When w= e would get bored or tired of each other we would drop the biggest rocks on=20= our communities to wipe them out. Sometimes we got carried away and threw ro= cks and dirt at each other. When the pile was wiped clean we would start ove= r and rebuild a new world. I find the feel of dirt in my hair comforting. Le= t the pebbles speak.<BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_ba.36c2ab62.2b73d047_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:51:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tap, tap, tap that maple tree MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d3.1ce66df.2b73d058_boundary" --part1_1d3.1ce66df.2b73d058_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, Ruth can we tap regular old mapletrees in central park? Or is theremoreto it than that? Sharpshooter: If you don't get hanged for it you can tap any maples. ][<en --part1_1d3.1ce66df.2b73d058_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Hey, Ruth can we tap regular old mapletrees in c= entral park? Or is theremoreto it than that?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Sharpshooter: I= f you don't get hanged for it you can tap any maples. ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1d3.1ce66df.2b73d058_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:56:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c6.17fb62f2.2b73d1ab_boundary" --part1_c6.17fb62f2.2b73d1ab_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:17:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >> Ralph - >> Pam, >> Ralph - >> Pam, > >> Didn't see that one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the last few days. I >> suppose one could characterize it as tasteful and distasteful at the same >> time. Only if you get caught. I didn't mean that YOU were doing anything >> that could be characterized as tasteful and distasteful. I meant the idea >> of covering, by an interior decorator, of architectural surfaces >> (including a chandelier) with dead bugs. They've actually been keeping me >> busy at work. So I guess today isn't one of "those" days, huh? The brain >> just hasn't kicked in yet. Tell me about it. Something Xerox never >> understood how to do. You showed them, didn't you! Better to officially >> quit than wait around for the layoff date. Especially if you have another >> job lined up, but if Unemployment looms as one's source of income, one >> doesn't want to jeopardize one's immediate future. DOH - did I type that >> outloud? In my capacity as a Laurel and Hardy fan, I think Dan >> Castellanetta deserves great credit for reviving that expression. That's >> another fine mess you've gotten us into, Ralph. Why don't you do >> something to help me? >> >> - Pam >> > > --part1_c6.17fb62f2.2b73d1ab_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:17:03 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style= =3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PAD= DING-LEFT: 5px">Ralph -</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-C= OLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <B>Pam,</B> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Ralph -<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Pam,</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT= E></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style= =3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PAD= DING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #= ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Didn't see t= hat one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the last few days. <B>I suppose one= could characterize it as tasteful and distasteful at the same time.</B> </F= ONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FA= MILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Only if you get caught. </FO= NT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAM= ILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I didn't mean that YOU were doin= g anything that could be characterized as tasteful and distasteful. I meant=20= the idea of covering, by an interior decorator, of architectural surfaces (i= ncluding a chandelier) with dead bugs. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"=20= LANG=3D"0"></B>They've actually been keeping me busy at work. <B>So I guess=20= today isn't one of "those" days, huh? </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008000" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"=20= LANG=3D"0">The brain just hasn't kicked in yet.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00000= 0" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff8040" style=3D"BACKGROU= ND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><= B>Tell me about it. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND= -COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B= > Something Xerox never understood how to do. <B>You showed them, didn't you= ! </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Better to officially qui= t than wait around for the layoff date. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0"></B> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-CO= LOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Esp= ecially if you have another job lined up, but if Unemployment looms as one's= source of income, one doesn't want to jeopardize one's immediate future. </= FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 F= AMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B>DOH - did I type that outl= oud? <B>In my capacity as a Laurel and Hardy fan</B>, <B>I think Dan C= astellanetta deserves great credit for reviving that expression. </FONT><FON= T COLOR=3D"#008000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"= SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">That's another fine mess you've gotten=20= us into, Ralph. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COL= OR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> Why do= n't you do something to help me?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BAC= KGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"></B><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">- Pam<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_c6.17fb62f2.2b73d1ab_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:57:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: frass in cp termite termini MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_43.17c343cf.2b73d1e7_boundary" --part1_43.17c343cf.2b73d1e7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:21:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Oh, I get it... mobile chemical warfare plants... Beans, beans, the musical fruit..... Smart Fellow --part1_43.17c343cf.2b73d1e7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:21:29 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Oh, I get it... mobile chemical= warfare plants...</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:= #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQU= OTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Beans, beans, the musical fruit.....<BR> <BR> Smart Fellow</FONT></HTML> --part1_43.17c343cf.2b73d1e7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:00:33 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_127.21be8f83.2b73d291_boundary" --part1_127.21be8f83.2b73d291_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:29:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The dirt pile was the best, especially with the lego parts and tonka trucks. > Give me scrap wood any day. Ralph (Termite's Friend, Plumber's Helper, Master of Nuns) --part1_127.21be8f83.2b73d291_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:29:01 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The dirt pile was the best, esp= ecially with the lego parts and tonka trucks.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Give me scrap wood any day.<= BR> <BR> Ralph (Termite's Friend, Plumber's Helper, Master of Nuns)</FONT></HTML> --part1_127.21be8f83.2b73d291_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:03:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2b.37fe4800.2b73d324_boundary" --part1_2b.37fe4800.2b73d324_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:51:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I find the feel of dirt in my hair comforting. Let the pebbles speak. > Eeewww. Don't hold your breath, Demosthenes. --Euripides Pants. Yes, Eumenides. --part1_2b.37fe4800.2b73d324_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:51:13 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I find the feel of dirt in my h= air comforting. Let the pebbles speak.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Eeewww. Don't hold=20= your breath, Demosthenes.<BR> <BR> --Euripides Pants. Yes, Eumenides.</B><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_2b.37fe4800.2b73d324_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:26:25 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles, Straw Piles & Dams In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2CDCA.35FBD6A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2CDCA.35FBD6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As ][<en reveals: >>My first recognition of building fences was pushing sticks into the ground. My first constructions of buildings were mounds, with a stick for a chimney, later morphed into flat rocks with supporting walls of smaller stones.<< For me it was learning how to navigate all the tunnels, passages, ladders and secret places that where serendipitously created by over a century of farm activity in Mr. Formaneck's barn. He was a pretty gruff old character, but I got along really well with his son's and worked for them in the summer and on weekends. My other friends were the kids whose parents had bought a spec house on Formaneck Lane. It was the small community created by developing the "frontage" and it was made up of folks with very diverse backgrounds and origins. The houses were typical post WWII ranches that had a very bizarre architectural relationship with the century farmhouse, barn and outbuildings. Directly across the road was the Gahagan estate. A large brick house overgrown by once majestic landscaping giving the front porch a dark and forbidding appearance. That combined with the musty smells from beyond the Victorian style screen door was enough to keep the most curious adventurer from having any interest in going inside. The barn had been lost many years (centuries? Millennia?) before to fire, and by the time we moved away the farmland had become a sod farm. My earliest construction memories are of the hydro dynamic. Great fun could be had damming up the slow meandering flow of French Creek in the summer. We would build communities along the edges of the flow and then flood them by damming the creek. Little did I realize then that I would make friends in later life with Crow Indians whose past relationship with our government had yielded the same results with their long houses and sacred lands. Funny how it comes and goes. 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My = first constructions of buildings were mounds, with a stick for a chimney, = later morphed into flat rocks with supporting walls of smaller = stones.<<<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>For me it was learning how to navigate all the tunnels, passages, ladders = and secret places that where serendipitously created by over a century of = farm activity in Mr. <span class=3DSpellE>Formaneck’s</span> barn. He = was a pretty gruff old character, but I got along really well with his = son’s and worked for them in the summer and on weekends. My other friends were = the kids whose parents had bought a spec house on = </span></font><st1:Street><st1:address><span class=3DSpellE><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Formaneck</span></font></span><font = size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'> Lane</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font = size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'>. It was the small community created by developing the = “frontage” and it was made up of folks with very diverse backgrounds and origins. = The houses were typical post WWII ranches that had a very bizarre = architectural relationship with the century farmhouse, barn and outbuildings. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Directly across = the road was the <span class=3DSpellE>Gahagan</span> estate. <span = class=3DGramE>A large brick house overgrown by once majestic landscaping giving the front = porch a dark and forbidding appearance.</span> That combined with the musty = smells from beyond the Victorian style screen door was enough to keep the most = curious adventurer from having any interest in going inside. The barn had been = lost many years (centuries? <span class=3DGramE>Millennia?)</span> <span = class=3DGramE>before</span> to fire, and by the </span></font><st1:PersonName><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>tim</span></font>= </st1:PersonName><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'>e we moved away the farmland had become a sod = farm.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>My earliest construction memories are of the hydro dynamic. Great fun could = be had damming up the slow meandering flow of French Creek in the summer. We = would build communities along the edges of the flow and then flood them by = damming the creek. Little did I realize then that I would make friends in later = life with Crow Indians whose past relationship with our government had = yielded the same results with their long houses and sacred <span = class=3DGramE>lands.</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span><span class=3DGramE>Funny how it comes and = goes.</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Rudy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2CDCA.35FBD6A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:29:35 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Follett > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:51 AM >=20 >=20 > The models of social order that a child imposes on a=20 > collection of pebbles hand sifted from the dirt suddenly=20 > becomes a BP community.=20 I've been called a rock head before, but never so elegantly. Thanks! ___________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "What's this? Fan mail Raleigh Historic from some flounder?" Districts Commission - Bullwinkle J. Moose [log in to unmask] 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:44:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles, Straw Piles & Dams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_17a.1617a389.2b73dcc0_boundary" --part1_17a.1617a389.2b73dcc0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 10:27:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > My earliest construction memories are of the hydro dynamic. Great fun could > be had damming up the slow meandering flow of French Creek in the summer. > We would build communities along the edges of the flow and then flood them > by damming the creek. Little did I realize then that I would make friends > in later life with Crow Indians whose past relationship with our government > had yielded the same results with their long houses and sacred lands. I, too, engaged in hydrodynamic activities in my yout', in La Ballona ("the whale, for our non-Spanish speaking friends) creek behind our house in LA. What had been a natural creek with banks probably 25' high (which is to say the creek bed was about 25' below grade on either side had had its banks paved (but not it's bed) before I toddled on the scene. We made dams, built walkable bridges, threw large numbers of rocks, etc. Then when I was probably about 10, they decided to pave the creek bed and it was never so much fun anymore. Sometime's we'd take fluorescent lamps (not the fixture, just the lamp) and hurl them, Zeus-like downhill. THAT was fun; didn't have no damn EPA telling you what little boys could throw in them days, no sir. L ooks like the Los Angeles River now, which is to say a large concrete-lined trench, with a little water down there somewhere. Sigh. Ralph --part1_17a.1617a389.2b73dcc0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 10:27:07 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">My earliest construction memories are of the hydro dynamic.= Great fun could be had damming up the slow meandering flow of French Creek=20= in the summer. We would build communities along the edges of the flow and th= en flood them by damming the creek. Little did I realize then that I would m= ake friends in later life with Crow Indians whose past relationship with our= government had yielded the same results with their long houses and sacred l= ands.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:= #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I, too, engaged in hydrodynamic activities in my yout', in La Ballona ("the=20= whale, for our non-Spanish speaking friends) creek behind our house in LA.&n= bsp; What had been a natural creek with banks probably 25' high (which is to= say the creek bed was about 25' below grade on either side had had its bank= s paved (but not it's bed) before I toddled on the scene. We made dams= , built walkable bridges, threw large numbers of rocks, etc. The= n when I was probably about 10, they decided to pave the creek bed and it wa= s never so much fun anymore. Sometime's we'd take fluorescent lamps (n= ot the fixture, just the lamp) and hurl them, Zeus-like downhill. THAT was f= un; didn't have no damn EPA telling you what little boys could throw in them= days, no sir. Looks like the Los Angeles River now, which is to say a large= concrete-lined trench, with a little water down there somewhere. Sigh= .<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_17a.1617a389.2b73dcc0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:58:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Burning Man, Redux... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c5.3031efcc.2b73e00f_boundary" --part1_c5.3031efcc.2b73e00f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/03 8:52:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Or rockets, we can do rockets in NYC in Brooklyn. ][<en Can't go to Burning Man until the kids are grown and pay for their own pacemaker batteries, but I did used to set off bottle rockets out of my 11th floor window of my West End Avenue apartment (Preservation Content: designed by Gaetan Ajello, 1914). In retrospect, that was unwise. Sign me, Always Wanted to See What A Cherry Bomb REALLY Did When Flushed Down a Commode --part1_c5.3031efcc.2b73e00f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/03 8:52:01 AM Eastern Sta= ndard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Or rockets, we can do rocke= ts in NYC in Brooklyn. ][<en</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMI= LY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </XMP></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00= 0000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQ= UOTE> <BR> <BR>Can't go to Burning Man until the kids are grown and pay for their own p= acemaker batteries, but I did used to set off bottle rockets out of my 11th=20= floor window of my West End Avenue apartment (Preservation Content: designed= by Gaetan Ajello, 1914). In retrospect, that was unwise. <BR> <BR>Sign me, Always Wanted to See What A Cherry Bomb REALLY Did When Flushed= Down a Commode</FONT></HTML> --part1_c5.3031efcc.2b73e00f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:02:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Burning Man, Redux... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_195.15335570.2b73e12a_boundary" --part1_195.15335570.2b73e12a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 10:58:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > but I did used to set off bottle rockets out of my 11th floor window Didn't have the Super do it for you? I'm impressed. Ralph --part1_195.15335570.2b73e12a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 10:58:54 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">but I did used to set off bottle rockets out of my 11= th floor window </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGR= OUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"= ><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Didn't have the Super do it for you? I'm impressed.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_195.15335570.2b73e12a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:03:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Playing Games, was Burning Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_142.9c34b9b.2b73e138_boundary" --part1_142.9c34b9b.2b73e138_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/03 9:16:20 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ken, > > Oh. [Terse enough for ya, Sharpshooter?] > > Ralph YES BUT IT WOULD BE MORE CONSIDERATE TO ELIMINATE WASTEFUL DOUBLE SPACING AND PRESERVE BANDWIDTH SO ST. JOHN'S DOESN'T DUMP OUR ARCHIVE ANY FASTER. Yrs, Would Make The Trains Run On Time If You'd Let Me --part1_142.9c34b9b.2b73e138_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/03 9:16:20 AM, RLWALTR@On= eSyllable.COM writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ken, <BR> <BR>Oh. [Terse enough for ya, Sharpshooter?] <BR> <BR>Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>YES BUT IT WOULD BE MORE CONSIDERATE TO ELIMINATE WASTEFUL DOUBLE SPACIN= G AND PRESERVE BANDWIDTH SO ST. JOHN'S DOESN'T DUMP OUR ARCHIVE ANY FASTER.=20= Yrs, Would Make The Trains Run On Time I= f You'd Let Me </FONT></HTML> --part1_142.9c34b9b.2b73e138_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:04:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: I believe this is the high type of discourse BP should aim for... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_31.338cd6b0.2b73e192_boundary" --part1_31.338cd6b0.2b73e192_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...cross posted from SAH-L: From: "Thomas Beischer" <[log in to unmask]> Eric- If you look in Annette Cire and Haila Ochs's Die Zeitschrift als Manifest, there is a fairly extensive list of journals in the back with brief explanations. One of yours is listed (p. 206), Contimporanul.=A0 It reads: Bukarest 1922-32. Hg. Marcel Janco und Ion Vinea. May I also suggest that your "pasmoll" might be "pasmo" listed on p. 207. It is listed under Tschechoslowakei and reads: Pasmo, Brunn 1924-26, Hg. Artus Cernik Cheers, Tom Thomas G. Beischer PhD Candidate in History, Theory and Criticism of Art and Architecture at MIT 3348 Scott Street San Francisco, CA 94123 USA --part1_31.338cd6b0.2b73e192_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">...cross posted from SAH-L: <BR> <BR>From: "Thomas Beischer" <[log in to unmask]> <BR> <BR>Eric- <BR> <BR>If you look in Annette Cire and Haila Ochs's Die Zeitschrift als Manifes= t, <BR>there is a fairly extensive list of journals in the back with brief <BR>explanations. <BR> <BR>One of yours is listed (p. 206), Contimporanul.=A0 It reads: Bukarest <BR>1922-32. <BR>Hg. Marcel Janco und Ion Vinea. <BR> <BR>May I also suggest that your "pasmoll" might be "pasmo" listed on p. 207= . <BR>It is listed under Tschechoslowakei and reads: <BR> <BR>Pasmo, Brunn 1924-26, Hg. Artus Cernik <BR> <BR>Cheers, <BR> <BR>Tom <BR> <BR>Thomas G. Beischer <BR>PhD Candidate in History, Theory <BR>and Criticism of Art and Architecture at MIT <BR>3348 Scott Street <BR>San Francisco, CA 94123 USA <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_31.338cd6b0.2b73e192_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:40:59 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Playing Games, was Burning Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_155.1b5ede2d.2b73ea1b_boundary" --part1_155.1b5ede2d.2b73ea1b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 11:03:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > YES BUT IT WOULD BE MORE CONSIDERATE TO ELIMINATE WASTEFUL DOUBLE SPACING > AND PRESERVE BANDWIDTH SO ST. JOHN'S DOESN'T DUMP OUR ARCHIVE ANY FASTER. > Yrs, Would Make The Trains Run On Time If You'd Let Me You don't have to scream. ee cummings & archie --part1_155.1b5ede2d.2b73ea1b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 11:03:34 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">YES BUT IT WOULD BE MORE CONSIDERATE TO ELIMINATE WAS= TEFUL DOUBLE SPACING AND PRESERVE BANDWIDTH SO ST. JOHN'S DOESN'T DUMP OUR A= RCHIVE ANY FASTER. Yrs, Would Make The T= rains Run On Time If You'd Let Me </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00000= 0" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> You don't have to scream.<BR> <BR> ee cummings & archie</FONT></HTML> --part1_155.1b5ede2d.2b73ea1b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:11:22 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LEmV+UGqzpLlA7Ragdsktw)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_LEmV+UGqzpLlA7Ragdsktw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable My other favourite thing was building grass structures between the 2 = tall maples that grew about 1' apart. Usually sticks were also involved = in the base. Army men loved these for their camoflague effect. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: Dirt Piles The dirt pile was the best, especially with the lego parts and tonka = trucks. My entire life is structured around playing in a dirt pile. The models = of social order that a child imposes on a collection of pebbles hand = sifted from the dirt suddenly becomes a BP community. My first = recognition of building fences was pushing sticks into the ground. My = first constructions of buildings were mounds, with a stick for a = chimney, later morphed into flat rocks with supporting walls of smaller = stones. Yes, there were commercial additions, Tonka and Lego, but they = always took a back role to the fabrications of the imagination that a = plenitude of natural objects found in the woods provided. It was where = we congregated and held our community of children free of the structure = of school and free of adults. And then there were the wars. When we = would get bored or tired of each other we would drop the biggest rocks = on our communities to wipe them out. Sometimes we got carried away and = threw rocks and dirt at each other. When the pile was wiped clean we = would start over and rebuild a new world. I find the feel of dirt in my = hair comforting. Let the pebbles speak. ][<en=20 --Boundary_(ID_LEmV+UGqzpLlA7Ragdsktw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>My other favourite thing was building grass structures between the 2 tall maples that grew about 1' apart. Usually sticks were also involved in the base. Army men loved these for their camoflague effect.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:50 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Dirt Piles</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">The dirt pile was the best, especially with the lego parts and tonka trucks. <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>My entire life is structured around playing in a dirt pile. The models of social order that a child imposes on a collection of pebbles hand sifted from the dirt suddenly becomes a BP community. My first recognition of building fences was pushing sticks into the ground. My first constructions of buildings were mounds, with a stick for a chimney, later morphed into flat rocks with supporting walls of smaller stones. Yes, there were commercial additions, Tonka and Lego, but they always took a back role to the fabrications of the imagination that a plenitude of natural objects found in the woods provided. It was where we congregated and held our community of children free of the structure of school and free of adults. And then there were the wars. When we would get bored or tired of each other we would drop the biggest rocks on our communities to wipe them out. Sometimes we got carried away and threw rocks and dirt at each other. When the pile was wiped clean we would start over and rebuild a new world. I find the feel of dirt in my hair comforting. Let the pebbles speak.<BR>][<en</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_LEmV+UGqzpLlA7Ragdsktw)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:55:54 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KG42F5UN4Lu3mL0Wbjmq0A)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_KG42F5UN4Lu3mL0Wbjmq0A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ralph Walter=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: Re: cp termite stations? In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:17:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Ralph - Pam,=20 Ralph - Pam, Ralph - Didn't see that one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the last few = days. I suppose one could characterize it as tasteful and distasteful at = the same time. Only if you get caught. I didn't mean that YOU were doing = anything that could be characterized as tasteful and distasteful. I = meant the idea of covering, by an interior decorator, of architectural = surfaces (including a chandelier) with dead bugs. Better than wearing = live ones, I suppose.They've actually been keeping me busy at work. So I = guess today isn't one of "those" days, huh? The brain just hasn't kicked = in yet. Tell me about it. So the brain finally kicked in, but now I'm = bored. Maybe I should slow down. Something Xerox never understood how = to do. You showed them, didn't you! Better to officially quit than wait = around for the layoff date. Especially if you have another job lined = up, but if Unemployment looms as one's source of income, one doesn't = want to jeopardize one's immediate future. Been there. Done that. = Standing in line begging for money can be lots-o-fun. DOH - did I type = that outloud? In my capacity as a Laurel and Hardy fan, I think Dan = Castellanetta deserves great credit for reviving that expression. That's = another fine mess you've gotten us into, Ralph. Why don't you do = something to help me? What sort of help do you need, Ralph, or shouldn't = I ask that? - Pam --Boundary_(ID_KG42F5UN4Lu3mL0Wbjmq0A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:56 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cp termite stations?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:17:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"> <DIV>Ralph -</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><B>Pam,</B> <BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#008000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><B>Ralph -<BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#ff0080 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Pam,</FONT></B></DIV> <DIV><B><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#ff0080 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><EM><FONT color=#800080>Ralph -</FONT></EM></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Didn't see that one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the last few days. <B>I suppose one could characterize it as tasteful and distasteful at the same time.</B> </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#008000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><B>Only if you get caught. </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I didn't mean that YOU were doing anything that could be characterized as tasteful and distasteful. I meant the idea of covering, by an interior decorator, of architectural surfaces (including a chandelier) with dead bugs.<EM><FONT color=#808000> Better than wearing live ones, I suppose.</FONT></EM></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B>They've actually been keeping me busy at work. <B>So I guess today isn't one of "those" days, huh? </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#008000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">The brain just hasn't kicked in yet.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B> </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#ff8040 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><B>Tell me about it. <EM><FONT color=#008080>So the brain finally kicked in, but now I'm bored. Maybe I should slow down.</FONT></EM> </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B> Something Xerox never understood how to do. <B>You showed them, didn't you! </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#008000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Better to officially quit than wait around for the layoff date. </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B> </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#ff0080 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><B>Especially if you have another job lined up, but if Unemployment looms as one's source of income, one doesn't want to jeopardize one's immediate future. <EM><FONT color=#00ff00>Been there. Done that. Standing in line begging for money can be lots-o-fun. </FONT></EM></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B>DOH - did I type that outloud? <B>In my capacity as a Laurel and Hardy fan</B>, <B>I think Dan Castellanetta deserves great credit for reviving that expression. </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#008000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">That's another fine mess you've gotten us into, Ralph. </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#ff0080 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> Why don't you do something to help me? <EM><FONT color=#800000>What sort of help do you need, Ralph, or shouldn't I ask that?</FONT></EM></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">- Pam<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_KG42F5UN4Lu3mL0Wbjmq0A)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:25:11 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16d.18bf8ddc.2b740287_boundary" --part1_16d.18bf8ddc.2b740287_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 12:56:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >> >>> Ralph - >>> Pam, >>> Ralph - >>> Pam, >>> Ralph - >>> Pam, > > >> >>> Didn't see that one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the last few >>> days. I suppose one could characterize it as tasteful and distasteful at >>> the same time. Only if you get caught. I didn't mean that YOU were doing >>> anything that could be characterized as tasteful and distasteful. I meant >>> the idea of covering, by an interior decorator, of architectural surfaces >>> (including a chandelier) with dead bugs. . Better than wearing live ones, >>> I suppose. I would say so, but that Silence of the Lambs guy might >>> disagree. They've actually been keeping me busy at work. So I guess today >>> isn't one of "those" days, huh? The brain just hasn't kicked in yet. Tell >>> me about it. So the brain finally kicked in, but now I'm bored. Maybe I >>> should slow down. You could help me drafting alterations to a bridal >>> salon, and buying binoculars on Ebay. But then what would I do? Something >>> Xerox never understood how to do. You showed them, didn't you! Better to >>> officially quit than wait around for the layoff date. Especially if you >>> have another job lined up, but if Unemployment looms as one's source of >>> income, one doesn't want to jeopardize one's immediate future. Been >>> there. Done that. Standing in line begging for money can be lots-o-fun. >>> I, too have been there and did that. However, keep in mind that it's >>> your (well, half, anyway) damn money in the first place, and the other >>> half is your scumbag weasel ex-employers. That might make the attempt to >>> collect it more enjoyable. DOH - did I type that outloud? In my capacity >>> as a Laurel and Hardy fan, I think Dan Castellanetta deserves great >>> credit for reviving that expression. That's another fine mess you've >>> gotten us into, Ralph. Why don't you do something to help me? What sort >>> of help do you need, Ralph, or shouldn't I ask that? For starters, you >>> could try to help me remember another Oliver Hardyism with which to >>> respond to "Why don't you do something to help me?" On second thought, >>> and as you noted first, Fin said it best: "DOH!" > >> >> > --part1_16d.18bf8ddc.2b740287_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 12:56:36 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style= =3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PAD= DING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px so= lid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ralph -</FONT><= FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <B>Pam,</B> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Ralph -<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Pam,</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#= 000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FA= CE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#800080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Ralph -</FONT><FONT =20= COLOR=3D"#ff0080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SAN= SSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Baskerville Old Face" LANG=3D"0"></B>= <I> Pam,</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0= 00000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FAC= E=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></I><BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style= =3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PAD= DING-LEFT: 5px">Didn't see that one, and I've been a bit of a lurker the las= t few days. <B>I suppose one could characterize it as tasteful and distastef= ul at the same time.</B> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008000" style=3D"BACKGROUND= -COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>= Only if you get caught. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-= COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I di= dn't mean that YOU were doing anything that could be characterized as tastef= ul and distasteful. I meant the idea of covering, by an interior decorator,=20= of architectural surfaces (including a chandelier) with dead bugs.</FONT><FO= NT COLOR=3D"#808000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff8040" st= yle=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Baskervi= lle Old Face" LANG=3D"0"></B><I>. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#808000" style=3D"B= ACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"><B></I>Better than wearing live ones, I suppose. </FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#ff8040" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" F= ACE=3D"Baskerville Old Face" LANG=3D"0"><I>I would say so, but that Silence=20= of the Lambs guy might disagree</B>. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"=20= LANG=3D"0"></I>They've actually been keeping me busy at work. <B>So I guess=20= today isn't one of "those" days, huh? </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008000" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"=20= LANG=3D"0">The brain just hasn't kicked in yet.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00000= 0" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff8040" style=3D"BACKGROU= ND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><= B>Tell me about it. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008080" style=3D"BACKGROUN= D-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">So= the brain finally kicked in, but now I'm bored. Maybe I should slow d= own.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff8040" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </FONT><FONT COLO= R=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSER= IF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff8040" style=3D"= BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Baskerville Old= Face" LANG=3D"0"><B><I>You could help me drafting alterations to a bridal s= alon, and buying binoculars on Ebay. But then what would I do? </FONT><FONT=20= COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SA= NSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B></I>Something Xerox never understood=20= how to do. <B>You showed them, didn't you! </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008000" s= tyle=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ari= al" LANG=3D"0">Better to officially quit than wait around for the layoff dat= e. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20= SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B> </FONT><FONT C= OLOR=3D"#ff0080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANS= SERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Especially if you have another job lined= up, but if Unemployment looms as one's source of income, one doesn't want t= o jeopardize one's immediate future. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00ff00" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"=20= LANG=3D"0">Been there. Done that. Standing in line begging for m= oney can be lots-o-fun. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff8040" style=3D"BACKGROUND-= COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Baskerville Old Face" LANG= =3D"0"><I>I, too have been there and did that. However, keep in mind t= hat it's your (well, half, anyway) damn money in the first place, and the ot= her half is your scumbag weasel ex-employers. That might make the atte= mpt to collect it more enjoyable. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"B= ACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"></B></I>DOH - did I type that outloud? <B>In my capacity as a L= aurel and Hardy fan</B>, <B>I think Dan Castellanetta deserves great credit=20= for reviving that expression. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008000" style=3D"BACKG= ROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0= ">That's another fine mess you've gotten us into, Ralph. </FONT><FONT =20= COLOR=3D"#ff0080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SAN= SSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> Why don't you do something to help me? </= FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#800000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 F= AMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">What sort of help do you need,= Ralph, or shouldn't I ask that? </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff8040" style=3D"BA= CKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Baskerville Old F= ace" LANG=3D"0"><I>For starters, you could try to help me remember another O= liver Hardyism with which to respond to "Why don't you do something to help=20= me?" 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d2.1d27e68.2b74033d_boundary" --part1_1d2.1d27e68.2b74033d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sign me, Always Wanted to See What A Cherry Bomb REALLY Did When Flushed Down a Commode We can fix this. Make a wish! --part1_1d2.1d27e68.2b74033d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Sign me, Always Wanted to See What A Cherry Bomb= REALLY Did When Flushed Down a Commode</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial"=20= LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> We can fix this. Make a wish!<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1d2.1d27e68.2b74033d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:32:45 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles, Straw Piles & Dams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_122.1e72f16d.2b74044d_boundary" --part1_122.1e72f16d.2b74044d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I, too, engaged in hydrodynamic activities A common thread... my early construction experience included some rather dramatic getting hit in the head with rocks episodes. ][<en --part1_122.1e72f16d.2b74044d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I, too, engaged in hydrodynamic activities</BLOCKQUOTE= ></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> A common thread... my early construction experience included some rather dra= matic getting hit in the head with rocks episodes. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_122.1e72f16d.2b74044d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:32:44 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles, Straw Piles & Dams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6d.93b0dfa.2b74044c_boundary" --part1_6d.93b0dfa.2b74044c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My earliest construction memories are of the hydro dynamic. Rudy, The dirt pile predates the dam era... the dam era was certainly a hydraulic project and went on for several seasons, summer into winter. We had blue clay, skeeters, crayfish, pollywogs, mayflies and algae to look after. A great deal of canal building and excavation of springs. Spring storms would usually wipe out all our work. The dam work was where I got started piling stones atop other stones. > ...whose past relationship with our government had yielded the same results > with their long houses and sacred lands. Yes, seems I have several indirect relatives, western NY Seneca, who were displaced from their homes from like flooding. ][<en --part1_6d.93b0dfa.2b74044c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">My earliest construction memories a= re of the hydro dynamic. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"=20= LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> Rudy,<BR> <BR> The dirt pile predates the dam era... the dam era was certainly a hydraulic=20= project and went on for several seasons, summer into winter. We had blue cla= y, skeeters, crayfish, pollywogs, mayflies and algae to look after. A great=20= deal of canal building and excavation of springs. Spring storms would usuall= y wipe out all our work. The dam work was where I got started piling stones=20= atop other stones.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:= #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">...whose past relationship with= our government had yielded the same results with their long houses and sacr= ed lands.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-CO= LOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Yes, seems I have several indirect relatives, western NY Seneca, who were di= splaced from their homes from like flooding.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_6d.93b0dfa.2b74044c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:52:41 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------5BCC1E7DFF1876E23D56CE51" --------------5BCC1E7DFF1876E23D56CE51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry Ken, but the termites have better taste than that and wood knot get involved with the likes of Martha Stewart. They like slightly moldy stuff not haughty stuffy stuff. The Termite .... by Oden Nash An ancient termite knocked on wood tasted it and found it good and that is why your Cousin May fell through the cellar floor today. =============== Ken Follett wrote: > Once a good shopping mall is found, these little 'shop till they drop' > termites tell their shopping friends of the good bargains to be found. > Soon everyone is shopping there. OK Bryan... now please please please connect this lovely little fable in with Martha Stewart and Ralph Loren! I'm looking forward to "World According to Termite". ][<en --------------5BCC1E7DFF1876E23D56CE51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <font color="#006600">Sorry Ken, but the termites have better taste than that and wood knot get involved with the likes of Martha Stewart. They like slightly moldy stuff not haughty stuffy stuff.</font> <p><font color="#3333FF"><b>The Termite</b> .... by Oden Nash</font><font color="#3333FF"></font> <p><font color="#3333FF">An ancient termite knocked on wood</font> <br><font color="#3333FF">tasted it and found it good</font> <br><font color="#3333FF">and that is why your Cousin May</font> <br><font color="#3333FF">fell through the cellar floor today.</font> <p>=============== <p>Ken Follett wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font color="#3333FF"><font size=-1>Once a good shopping mall is found, these little 'shop till they drop' termites tell their shopping friends of the good bargains to be found. Soon everyone is shopping there.</font></font></font></blockquote> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>OK Bryan... now please please please connect this lovely little fable in with Martha Stewart and Ralph Loren! I'm looking forward to "World According to Termite". ][<en</font></font></font></html> --------------5BCC1E7DFF1876E23D56CE51-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:01:37 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D425A574B937E6C55F15D93A" --------------D425A574B937E6C55F15D93A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CORRECTION: not cellar floor PARLOR FLOOR "J. Bryan Blundell" wrote: > Sorry Ken, but the termites have better taste than that and wood knot get > involved with the likes of Martha Stewart. They like slightly moldy stuff > not haughty stuffy stuff. > > The Termite .... by Oden Nash > > An ancient termite knocked on wood > tasted it and found it good > and that is why your Cousin May > fell through the cellar floor today. > > =============== > > Ken Follett wrote: > >> Once a good shopping mall is found, these little 'shop till they drop' >> termites tell their shopping friends of the good bargains to be found. >> Soon everyone is shopping there. > > OK Bryan... now please please please connect this lovely little fable in > with Martha Stewart and Ralph Loren! I'm looking forward to "World > According to Termite". ][<en --------------D425A574B937E6C55F15D93A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <font color="#009900"><b>CORRECTION</b>:</font> <font color="#CC0000">not cellar floor</font> <b><font color="#3333FF">PARLOR FLOOR</font></b> <p>"J. Bryan Blundell" wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font color="#006600">Sorry Ken, but the termites have better taste than that and wood knot get involved with the likes of Martha Stewart. They like slightly moldy stuff not haughty stuffy stuff.</font> <p><font color="#3333FF"><b>The Termite</b> .... by Oden Nash</font> <p><font color="#3333FF">An ancient termite knocked on wood</font> <br><font color="#3333FF">tasted it and found it good</font> <br><font color="#3333FF">and that is why your Cousin May</font> <br><font color="#3333FF">fell through the cellar floor today.</font> <p>=============== <p>Ken Follett wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font color="#3333FF"><font size=-1>Once a good shopping mall is found, these little 'shop till they drop' termites tell their shopping friends of the good bargains to be found. Soon everyone is shopping there.</font></font></font></blockquote> <font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>OK Bryan... now please please please connect this lovely little fable in with Martha Stewart and Ralph Loren! I'm looking forward to "World According to Termite". ][<en</font></font></font></blockquote> </html> --------------D425A574B937E6C55F15D93A-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:10:20 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_196.154a1588.2b741b2c_boundary" --part1_196.154a1588.2b741b2c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 12:00:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > CORRECTION: not cellar floor PARLOR FLOOR correction Ogden Nash in writerly parlance, "nits", small insignificant errors -- we don't want no nits in our finish, let alone termites. Some primal termite knocked on wood And tasted it, and found it good! And that is why your Cousin May Fell through the parlor floor today. NOTE: Thomas Lipps left BP in high spirits, needing to focus on his upcomming stone mason's event, and left off by letting Gabriel Orgrease know that his name includes a sea ogre. Way cool! ][<en --part1_196.154a1588.2b741b2c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 12:00:07 PM Pacific Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#009900"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0"><B>CORRECTION</B>:</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"= BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#cc0000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20= SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">not cellar floor</FO= NT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAM= ILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#3333ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0"><B>PARLOR FLOOR</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BAC= KGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"></B> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c0c0c0" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">correction O</FONT><FONT CO= LOR=3D"#ffff80" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c0c0c0" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSS= ERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">g</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BA= CKGROUND-COLOR: #c0c0c0" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0">den Nash</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f= fffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> =20= in writerly parlance, "nits", small insignificant errors -- we don't want no= nits in our finish, let alone termites.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" styl= e=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c0c0c0" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"= LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Some primal termite knocked=20= on wood <BR> And tasted it, and found it good! <BR> And that is why your Cousin May <BR> Fell through the parlor floor today.<BR> <BR> NOTE: Thomas Lipps left BP in high spirits, needing to focus on his upcommin= g stone mason's event, and left off by letting Gabriel Orgrease know that hi= s name includes a </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:= #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">sea ogre</= FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 F= AMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">. Way cool! ][<en</FONT></H= TML> --part1_196.154a1588.2b741b2c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:21:29 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------412B70B1A27AB41BFA854B14" --------------412B70B1A27AB41BFA854B14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As usual, I stand corrected. Bryan ========= Ken Follett wrote: > In a message dated 2/6/2003 12:00:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > >> CORRECTION: not cellar floor PARLOR FLOOR > > correction Ogden Nash in writerly parlance, "nits", small insignificant > errors -- we don't want no nits in our finish, let alone termites. > > Some primal termite knocked on wood > And tasted it, and found it good! > And that is why your Cousin May > Fell through the parlor floor today. > > NOTE: Thomas Lipps left BP in high spirits, needing to focus on his > upcomming stone mason's event, and left off by letting Gabriel Orgrease > know that his name includes a sea ogre. Way cool! ][<en --------------412B70B1A27AB41BFA854B14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <font color="#000099">As usual, I stand corrected.</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">Bryan</font> <br><font color="#000099">=========</font> <p>Ken Follett wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>In a message dated 2/6/2003 12:00:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font> <br> <blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><font color="#009900"><b>CORRECTION</b>:</font><font color="#000000"> </font><font color="#CC0000">not cellar floor</font><font color="#000000"> </font><b><font color="#3333FF">PARLOR FLOOR</font></b></font></font></blockquote> <p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><font color="#000000">correction O</font><font color="#FFFF80">g</font><font color="#000000">den Nash in writerly parlance, "nits", small insignificant errors -- we don't want no nits in our finish, let alone termites.</font></font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Some primal termite knocked on wood</font></font></font> <br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>And tasted it, and found it good!</font></font></font> <br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>And that is why your Cousin May</font></font></font> <br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Fell through the parlor floor today.</font></font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><font color="#000000">NOTE: Thomas Lipps left BP in high spirits, needing to focus on his upcomming stone mason's event, and left off by letting Gabriel Orgrease know that his name includes a </font><font color="#008080">sea ogre</font><font color="#000000">. Way cool! ][<en</font></font></font></blockquote> </html> --------------412B70B1A27AB41BFA854B14-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:28:28 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2CDF4.66DB7D50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2CDF4.66DB7D50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As usual, I stand corrected. Bryan ========= Byproduct of all that spam offering bigger corrections probably. 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MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Bptn/py25LaPYxCxowZZuA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Bptn/py25LaPYxCxowZZuA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Actually, I'd like to see what happens when one falls through the basement floor. Has an Alice in Wonderland kind of ring to you, don't you think? - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Bryan Blundell To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: Re: cp termite stations? CORRECTION: not cellar floor PARLOR FLOOR "J. Bryan Blundell" wrote: Sorry Ken, but the termites have better taste than that and wood knot get involved with the likes of Martha Stewart. They like slightly moldy stuff not haughty stuffy stuff. The Termite .... by Oden Nash An ancient termite knocked on wood tasted it and found it good and that is why your Cousin May fell through the cellar floor today. =============== Ken Follett wrote: Once a good shopping mall is found, these little 'shop till they drop' termites tell their shopping friends of the good bargains to be found. Soon everyone is shopping there. OK Bryan... now please please please connect this lovely little fable in with Martha Stewart and Ralph Loren! I'm looking forward to "World According to Termite". ][<en --Boundary_(ID_Bptn/py25LaPYxCxowZZuA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Actually, I'd like to see what happens when one falls through the basement floor. Has an Alice in Wonderland kind of ring to you, don't you think?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">J. Bryan Blundell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:01 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cp termite stations?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT color=#009900><B>CORRECTION</B>:</FONT> <FONT color=#cc0000>not cellar floor</FONT> <B><FONT color=#3333ff>PARLOR FLOOR</FONT></B> <P>"J. Bryan Blundell" wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT color=#006600>Sorry Ken, but the termites have better taste than that and wood knot get involved with the likes of Martha Stewart. They like slightly moldy stuff not haughty stuffy stuff.</FONT> <P><FONT color=#3333ff><B>The Termite</B> .... by Oden Nash</FONT> <P><FONT color=#3333ff>An ancient termite knocked on wood</FONT> <BR><FONT color=#3333ff>tasted it and found it good</FONT> <BR><FONT color=#3333ff>and that is why your Cousin May</FONT> <BR><FONT color=#3333ff>fell through the cellar floor today.</FONT> <P>=============== <P>Ken Follett wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#3333ff><FONT size=-1>Once a good shopping mall is found, these little 'shop till they drop' termites tell their shopping friends of the good bargains to be found. Soon everyone is shopping there.</FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>OK Bryan... now please please please connect this lovely little fable in with Martha Stewart and Ralph Loren! I'm looking forward to "World According to Termite". ][<en</FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_Bptn/py25LaPYxCxowZZuA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:39:08 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_148.9b0bcc9.2b7421ec_boundary" --part1_148.9b0bcc9.2b7421ec_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As usual, I stand corrected. We all stand corrected... a self-correcting team we is. --part1_148.9b0bcc9.2b7421ec_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">As usual, I stand corrected.</FONT>= <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> We all stand corrected... a self-correcting team we is.</FONT></HTML> --part1_148.9b0bcc9.2b7421ec_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:41:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_128.22632730.2b742265_boundary" --part1_128.22632730.2b742265_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 12:30:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > As usual, I stand corrected. > > Bryan > ========= > > Byproduct of all that spam offering bigger corrections probably. > On second thought... since Rudy seems to have the universal answer here... forget about the self-correcting parts. ][<en --part1_128.22632730.2b742265_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 12:30:00 PM Pacific Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">As usual, I stand corrected.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0= 00000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FAC= E=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Bryan</FONT><FONT COL= OR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSE= RIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000099" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<= /FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3=20= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> &nbs= p; Byproduct of all that spam offering b= igger corrections probably.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROU= ND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><= BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">On second thought... since R= udy seems to have the universal answer here... forget about the self-correct= ing parts. ][<en</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR= : #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_128.22632730.2b742265_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:29 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------79D3AD9501EC1DA528368D96" --------------79D3AD9501EC1DA528368D96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you're one sick puppy ... you are implying that Ken without spamming can give someone a big correction. ================= Ken Follett wrote: > In a message dated 2/6/2003 12:30:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > >> As usual, I stand corrected. >> >> Bryan >> ========= >> >> Byproduct of all that spam offering bigger corrections >> probably. > > > > > On second thought... since Rudy seems to have the universal answer > here... forget about the self-correcting parts. ][<en --------------79D3AD9501EC1DA528368D96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <br><font color="#009900">you're one sick puppy ... you are implying that Ken without spamming can give someone a big correction.</font> <p>================= <p>Ken Follett wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>In a message dated 2/6/2003 12:30:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font> <br> <blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000099"><font size=+0>As usual, I stand corrected.</font></font></font> <p><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000099"><font size=+0>Bryan</font></font></font> <br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000099"><font size=+0>=========</font></font></font> <p><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000080"><font size=+0> Byproduct of all that spam offering bigger corrections probably.</font></font></font></blockquote> <br> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>On second thought... since Rudy seems to have the universal answer here... forget about the self-correcting parts. ][<en</font></font></font></blockquote> </html> --------------79D3AD9501EC1DA528368D96-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:01:08 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_128.22632754.2b742714_boundary" --part1_128.22632754.2b742714_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you're one sick puppy ... you are implying that Ken without spamming can give someone a big correction. Hey... guys... you keep this up and one of you is going to have to go stand in the hall and play with the fire alarm... ALONE! ][<en --part1_128.22632754.2b742714_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#009900" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">you're one sick puppy ... you are i= mplying that Ken without spamming can give someone a big correction.</FONT><= FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Hey... guys... you keep this up and one of you is going to have to go stand=20= in the hall and play with the fire alarm... ALONE! ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_128.22632754.2b742714_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:26:34 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2CDFC.84933DD0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2CDFC.84933DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you're one sick puppy ... you are implying that Ken without spamming can give someone a big correction. Hey... guys... you keep this up and one of you is going to have to go stand in the hall and play with the fire alarm... ALONE! ][<en Got a spare pair of preservation briefs I can borrow? ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2CDFC.84933DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2CDFC.83941D50"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial = FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#009900" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#009900'>you're one sick puppy ... you are implying that Ken without spamming can give = someone a big correction.</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; background:white'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; background:white'><br> <br> Hey... guys... you keep this up and one of you is going to have to go = stand in the hall and play with the fire alarm... ALONE! <span = class=3DGramE>][</span><en</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;background: white'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Got a spare pair of preservation briefs I can = borrow?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2CDFC.84933DD0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:29:48 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2CDFC.F80A4330" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2CDFC.F80A4330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you're one sick puppy ... you are implying that Ken without spamming can give someone a big correction. ================= How do you think he got his nick name? The disseminator calls the shots from what I hear. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2CDFC.F80A4330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2CDFC.F729A730"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <br> <span class=3DGramE><font color=3D"#009900"><span = style=3D'color:#009900'>you're</span></font></span><font color=3D"#009900"><span style=3D'color:#009900'> one sick puppy ... you = are implying that Ken without spamming can give someone a big = correction.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>How do you think he got his nick = name? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>The disseminator calls the shots = from what I hear.</span></font><br> <o:p></o:p></p> <p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2CDFC.F80A4330-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:05:29 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f4.28bceff4.2b743629_boundary" --part1_f4.28bceff4.2b743629_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 3:11:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Gabriel Orgrease know that his name includes a sea ogre. Il barge sea, roger. Ralph --part1_f4.28bceff4.2b743629_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 3:11:30 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Gabriel Orgrease know that his=20= name includes a </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #= ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">sea ogre</FO= NT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAM= ILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COL= OR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSE= RIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Il barge sea, roger.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_f4.28bceff4.2b743629_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:36:28 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: olgoat <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0110_01C2CE0E.A944AF30" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0110_01C2CE0E.A944AF30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dear ralph, the hicap gas units will produce hot water continusly. no recovery = time. do you want one? eeh dont know. but concider--said rheem can only produce somuch hot water. consumers complain but when shower goes cold water is turned off. everybody, more or less,gets along. = unlimited hot water gives bill payer great pain and public service gas great joy. = anywhy de aint cheap! how much is fractional reduction in complaining=20 worth? =20 with great empathy, i remain, olgoat ------=_NextPart_000_0110_01C2CE0E.A944AF30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>dear ralph,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the hicap gas units will produce hot = water=20 continusly. no recovery time.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>do you want one? eeh dont = know. but=20 concider--said rheem can only</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>produce somuch hot water. = consumers complain=20 but when shower goes</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cold water is turned off. = everybody, more or=20 less,gets along. unlimited</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hot water gives bill payer great pain = and public=20 service gas great joy. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>anywhy de aint cheap! how much is = fractional=20 reduction in complaining </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>worth? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with great empathy, i = remain, =20 olgoat</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0110_01C2CE0E.A944AF30-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:37:37 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Brooklyn Standard Union, June 7, 1907... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ralph, Just goes to show how little you know about Vermont farmers. Dad either got the bucket of tar at an auction or at the grain store on sale for little or nothing. He had, still has, all kinds of stuff that, "might come in handy sometime." He did all his own repairs, building as well as mechanical. Probably wouldn't meet preservation standards but preserved us, our home and Dad's meager income. I didn't say they "let" me play with it. I was not supervised closely on a farm with much acreage. I remember putting a ball of tar in the pocket of my pants and couldn't get it out so I cut the pocket off and no questions were ever asked as no one knew the pocket was missing. I had a great childhood. Ruth At 8:31 AM -0500 2/6/03, Ralph Walter wrote: Ruth, I wouldn't expect you to have your own, unless Da was a roofing contractor. Does seem rather strange to me that they'd let you play with the stuff (even the just-warm-in summer stuff, as opposed to the boiling stuff from a kettle) from a can. Pretty sticky and messy and hard to clean off for anybody, much less a little girl. No doubt you had better things to occupy yourselves with than toys. My mother (the South GA farm girl who moved to Los Angeles and married the Hebe) once said that when her mother came from GA to visit us in CA, that Granny was horrified (well, less than approving, ) that we had so MANY toys. Could explain a lot of things about Mrs. Ralph Seniorette. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:47:45 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Burning Man, Redux... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You don't want to know, trust me!!!!!!! I know a fella who ended his high school career with that great rumble of H20 and flying pieces of porcelein. He was unceremoniously escorted out the door by the ear. Ruth At 10:58 AM -0500 2/6/03, Met History wrote: In a message dated 2/6/03 8:52:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Sign me, Always Wanted to See What A Cherry Bomb REALLY Did When Flushed Down a Commode -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:45:37 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless hot water heaters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d0.1dc4fb6.2b7469c1_boundary" --part1_1d0.1dc4fb6.2b7469c1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 6:37:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > dear ralph, > Esteemed olgoat > the hicap gas units will produce hot water continusly. no recovery time. > do you want one? eeh dont know. but concider--said rheem can only > produce somuch hot water. consumers not to mention wives and children > complain but when shower goes cold water is turned off. Sounds good if you > like truly HOT showers, one assumes less good for merely warm. everybody, > more or less, gets along. This is desirable goal. unlimited hot water > gives bill payer great pain this is undesirable result. and public service > gas great joy 2x undesirable result, as Chinese peoples say. anywhy de > aint cheap! what is? how much is fractional reduction in complaining worth? > doubt complaint reduction, taken in toto [too] would amount to > "fractional." Most certainly not measurable. The Heck (as we now have to > say, with Pinhead Decency Police breathing down our unwashed necks) with > it. Will call Mr. Rheem, request delivery of new model. Your advice much > appreciated. Pleasure to meet you. Will give you month's free membership in > Pinheads, accordingly; your first payment not due til March 6. Enjoy. And > save up. > > with great empathy, i remain, olgoat Ralph --part1_1d0.1dc4fb6.2b7469c1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 6:37:53 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">dear ralph,</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <B>Esteemed olgoat</B> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">the hicap gas units will pro= duce hot water continusly. no recovery time.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00= 0000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">do you want one? e= eh dont know. but concider--said rheem can only</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"= #000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" F= ACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">produce somuch hot water= . consumers <B>not to mention wives and children </B>complain bu= t when shower goes cold water is turned off. <B>Sounds good if you like trul= y HOT showers, one assumes less good for merely warm.</B> everybody, more or= less, gets along. <B>This is desirable goal. </B> unlimited </FON= T><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMI= LY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"=20= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0">hot water gives bill payer great pain <B>this is undesirable= result. </B>and public service gas great joy <B>2x undesirable result, as C= hinese peoples say</B>. anywhy de aint cheap! <B>what is?</B> how much= is fractional reduction in complaining worth? <B>doubt complain= t reduction, taken in toto [too] would amount to "fractional." Most ce= rtainly not measurable. The Heck (as we now have to say, with Pinhead=20= Decency Police breathing down our unwashed necks) with it. Will call M= r. Rheem, request delivery of new model. Your advice much appreciated.= </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff= ffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <B> Pleasure to=20= meet you. Will give you month's free membership in </FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Pinheads, accordingly; your first payment not due til Ma= rch 6. Enjoy. And save up.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"=20= LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">with great empathy, i remain= , olgoat</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial"=20= LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1d0.1dc4fb6.2b7469c1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:00:06 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: From Vermont Standard Union, June 7, 1907... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_102.25ceb323.2b746d26_boundary" --part1_102.25ceb323.2b746d26_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:42:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ralph, Just goes to show how little you know about Vermont farmers. Ruth, > you could put all I know about Vermont farmers in the navel of a flea and > have room left over for several mustard seeds and 3 units of termite frass. > Dad > either got the bucket of tar at an auction or at the grain store on sale > for little or nothing. I have not a bad word to say about frugality. > Perhaps you missed the story about how the piano in my parlor, not to > mention the furniture in my wife's office, and much of our mountains of > computer and stereo equipment, came from The Summit Mall. He had, still > has, all kinds of stuff that, "might come in handy sometime." Tell me about > it. My basement is filled with projects that will keep me busy in my > retirement. If I live. He did all his own repairs, building as well as > mechanical. Good for him, and good for his offspring. They have a father > who knew, and was able to show them, how to do useful things. No doubt > your mother was the same. Probably wouldn't meet preservation standards but > preserved us, our home and Dad's meager income. Don't tell anybody, but > there are some things I do that don't meet Histo Presto standards, and even > worse, and more often than I would prefer, don't meet Ralph standards, > either. > > I didn't say they "let" me play with it. Ahhhh. An inquisitive child not > afraid to take matters into her own hands. An unequalled asset in one's > mental makeup. was not supervised closely on a farm with much acreage. I > remember putting a ball of tar in the pocket of my pants NOT smart, but I guess you found that out for yourself and couldn't get it out so I cut the pocket off Also a child able to creatively (and destructively, in this case) solve unforeseen problems; another excellent attribute and no questions > were > ever asked as no one knew the pocket was missing. But you never fixed the > pocket? > > I had a great childhood. Ruth Me, too, despite an excessively cautious > nature. Like when I told my grandfather that it was not possible to eat > cornflakes with water on them instead of milk. Ralph > --part1_102.25ceb323.2b746d26_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/6/2003 8:42:21 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ralph, Just goes to show=20= how little you know about Vermont farmers. <B>Ruth, you could put all I know= about Vermont farmers in the navel of a flea and have room left over for se= veral mustard seeds and 3 units of termite frass.</B> Dad<BR> either got the bucket of tar at an auction or at the grain store on sale<BR> for little or nothing. <B>I have not a bad word to say about frugality. = ; Perhaps you missed the story about how the piano in my parlor, not to ment= ion the furniture in my wife's office, and much of our mountains of computer= and stereo equipment, came from The Summit Mall.</B> He had, still has, all= kinds of stuff that, "might come in handy sometime." <B>Tell me about it.&n= bsp; My basement is filled with projects that will keep me busy in my retire= ment. If I live.</B> He did all his own repairs, building as well as m= echanical. <B>Good for him, and good for his offspring. They have a fa= ther who knew, and was able to show them, how to do useful things.&nbs= p; No doubt your mother was the same.</B> Probably wouldn't meet preservatio= n standards but preserved us, our home and Dad's meager income. <B>Don= 't tell anybody, but there are some things I do that don't meet Histo Presto= standards, and even worse, and more often than I would prefer, don't meet R= alph standards, either.</B><BR> <BR> I didn't say they "let" me play with it. <B>Ahhhh. An inquisitive chil= d not afraid to take matters into her own hands. An unequalled asset i= n one's mental makeup.</B> was not supervised closely on a farm with m= uch acreage. I remember putting a ball of tar in the pocket of </BLOCK= QUOTE>my pants <B>NOT smart, but I guess you found that out for yourself </B= >and couldn't get it out so I cut the pocket off <B>Also a child able to cre= atively (and destructively, in this case) solve unforeseen problems; another= excellent attribute </B>and no questions <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"B= ORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-= LEFT: 5px">were ever asked as no one knew the pocket was missing. <B>B= ut you never fixed the pocket?</B><BR> <BR> I had a great childhood. Ruth <B>Me, too, despite an excessively= cautious nature. Like when I told my grandfather that it was not poss= ible to eat cornflakes with water on them instead of milk. Ralph</B><B= R> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_102.25ceb323.2b746d26_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:04:25 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: "a new suit of clothes and $5" -- Castle Williams on Governors Island, 1907 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cc.18095606.2b74ecb9_boundary" --part1_cc.18095606.2b74ecb9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Transcribed from Brooklyn Standard Union, June 9, 1907, cross posted from Brooklyn-L UNCLE SAM'S PRISONERS IN CASTLE WILLIAMS Tuesday's Jail Delivery Attracts Attention to Historic Old Fortress on Governor's Island -- Every-Day Life of the Military Prisoners Confined There Attention is once more attracted to Castle Williams, the military prison on Governor's Island, as a result of the successful break for liberty made last Tuesday by three prisoners. The escape was one of the most daring in the history of the old fortress, which for over a century has overlooked the waters of New York Harbor. Of late years there have been an unusual number of escapes from the old prison, which have been planned and carried out in the face of tremendous odds. In several cases it was necessary for jail breakers to swim across the channel to the Brooklyn shore, a feat which has been accomplished on several occasions, the last time in midwinter, with the water freezing cold. The majority of escapes, however, have been effected as in the case last week, with the aid of confederates outside, who supplied saws, etc., as well as a boat to take the fugitives across the channel. Castle Williams itself is an imposing structure, built in the style of the old Spanish architecture. It is circular in shape, with a large garden in the center, above which is flanked two rows of cells. The garden is covered with closely cut grass and decorated with pyramids of cannon balls. Everything about the place shines with the appearance of militant care and were it not for the sordid life within, with its compulsory obedience and its counted hours, the lines (as printed) of a military prisoner at Castle Williams would be far from a punishment. The ground floor of the castle is used entirely for offices of the prison sergeant, the dining room, the carpenter shop, laundry, bake shop and kitchen. The dining room has been enlarged to accommodate the growing capacity of the newcomers and now has been extended to include three rooms connected by huge archways. Castle Williams has a physiognomy of its own and its boarders, while not enjoying table luxuries, have many of the comforts of big hotels to cater to human needs. The cells throughout are heated by steam and lighted by electricity. The baths are in excellent condition, and the prison fare, which is always wholesome, is made a special feature at holiday festivities. The menu for each meal is posted on the dining room wall and the following is a sample of the every day fare. Castle Williams, Monday, May 19, 1907: Menu: Breakfast -- Fried bacon, fried potatoes, bread and coffee. Dinner -- roast young pork, brown gravy, mashed potatoes, mashed turnips, rice pudding, with milk and eggs. Supper -- Baked pork and beans, pickles, bread and coffee. The dining room is not large enough to accommodate the present number of boarders at one time, and so the prisoners eat in first and second calls to mess. The kitchen is a continuation of these rooms and the bake shop opens off the kitchen. When a prisoner enters Castle Williams, he is asked what trade or occupation he pursued prior to entering the army and he is then put to work in a position in which he can do the most good with his time to serve. The overseer, Sergeant Lorenzo BELL, lives in the prison and his office work is creditably transacted, bookkeeping and clerical work being done with the accuracy and despatch that obtain in large legal concerns anywhere, and all this efficiency is the work of the prisoners. There are carpenters who are at present turning out furniture which is used only by officers at the military post; there are shoemakers who are skilled in their trade; tailors who are put to work on the prison clothing; and each one at his trade as in some big industrial school. For the most part, the men are set to work about the grounds of the reservation and some of the boys are at work in the officers' homes, for which they are paid not only in money but in clothes when their terms of imprisonment expires. The boys are always anxious to be attached to duty in an officer's house; their food is better and, take it all in all, they have more privileges than they would enjoy while at work outside. There are 235 at the prison at the present time and the great common cause of their desertion is drink. Whenever the prisoners show rebellion to the order of discipline they are put to work on the rock pile and a few of the obstreperous ones are confined to the solitary cells or dungeons on the top terrace, which are reached by a winding stair, in the tower. The general cells are all built large enough to furnish twelve beds and are perfect in ventilation and sanitation. Each cell opens upon the inner garden, in true Spanish fashion. Each prisoner is furnished with a roughly made cupboard for books and clothes and the little keepsakes from home, and are all well decorated with photographs. Castle Williams is now the proud possessor of a military prison band that practices regularly every evening and frequently gives concerts on the grounds. On Sunday the prisoners in a body attend the services at the Episcopal Church at 3 P.M., and enter into the song services with keen enjoyment. They are not compelled to attend church but do so voluntarily, and the close communion which exists between Chaplain SMITH and the prisoners has helped to make many a hard place smooth. There are stories of hardships, severe discipline and suffering that only a sympathetic servant of God can relieve, and thus many of these soldiers who have served with military distinction are reconciled to the life made melancholy by what might have been. Many of them are under the ban of military crimes that would be called misdemeanors in common law, and sometimes the army is more merciful than civil justice. One man must serve two years for killing a Chinaman, and he was glad that he was tried by the army; another went to sleep at his post and for two years he will regret that civil law could not try him. When the prisoner has served his time, allowing a deduction for good behavior, he is given a new suit of clothes and $5 when he leaves Castle Williams. Transcribed for the Brooklyn info pages by S. Anderson --part1_cc.18095606.2b74ecb9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Transcribed from Brooklyn Standard Union, June 9, 1907= , cross posted from Brooklyn-L<BR> <BR> <BR> UNCLE SAM'S PRISONERS IN CASTLE WILLIAMS<BR> <BR> Tuesday's Jail Delivery Attracts Attention to Historic Old Fortress<BR> on Governor's Island -- Every-Day Life of the Military Prisoners<BR> Confined There<BR> <BR> Attention is once more attracted to Castle Williams, the military<BR> prison on Governor's Island, as a result of the successful break for<BR> liberty made last Tuesday by three prisoners.<BR> <BR> The escape was one of the most daring in the history of the old<BR> fortress, which for over a century has overlooked the waters of New<BR> York Harbor. Of late years there have been an unusual number of<BR> escapes from the old prison, which have been planned and carried out<BR> in the face of tremendous odds. In several cases it was necessary<BR> for jail breakers to swim across the channel to the Brooklyn shore,<BR> a feat which has been accomplished on several occasions, the last<BR> time in midwinter, with the water freezing cold. The majority of<BR> escapes, however, have been effected as in the case last week, with<BR> the aid of confederates outside, who supplied saws, etc., as well as<BR> a boat to take the fugitives across the channel.<BR> <BR> Castle Williams itself is an imposing structure, built in the style<BR> of the old Spanish architecture. It is circular in shape, with a<BR> large garden in the center, above which is flanked two rows of<BR> cells.<BR> <BR> The garden is covered with closely cut grass and decorated with<BR> pyramids of cannon balls. Everything about the place shines with the<BR> appearance of militant care and were it not for the sordid life<BR> within, with its compulsory obedience and its counted hours, the<BR> lines (as printed) of a military prisoner at Castle Williams would<BR> be far from a punishment.<BR> <BR> The ground floor of the castle is used entirely for offices of the<BR> prison sergeant, the dining room, the carpenter shop, laundry, bake<BR> shop and kitchen.<BR> <BR> The dining room has been enlarged to accommodate the growing<BR> capacity of the newcomers and now has been extended to include three<BR> rooms connected by huge archways.<BR> <BR> Castle Williams has a physiognomy of its own and its boarders, while<BR> not enjoying table luxuries, have many of the comforts of big hotels<BR> to cater to human needs.<BR> <BR> The cells throughout are heated by steam and lighted by electricity.<BR> The baths are in excellent condition, and the prison fare, which is<BR> always wholesome, is made a special feature at holiday festivities.<BR> The menu for each meal is posted on the dining room wall and the<BR> following is a sample of the every day fare.<BR> <BR> Castle Williams, Monday, May 19, 1907:<BR> <BR> Menu: Breakfast -- Fried bacon, fried potatoes, bread and coffee.<BR> Dinner -- roast young pork, brown gravy, mashed potatoes, mashed<BR> turnips, rice pudding, with milk and eggs. Supper -- Baked pork and<BR> beans, pickles, bread and coffee.<BR> <BR> The dining room is not large enough to accommodate the present<BR> number of boarders at one time, and so the prisoners eat in first<BR> and second calls to mess. The kitchen is a continuation of these<BR> rooms and the bake shop opens off the kitchen.<BR> <BR> When a prisoner enters Castle Williams, he is asked what trade or<BR> occupation he pursued prior to entering the army and he is then put<BR> to work in a position in which he can do the most good with his time<BR> to serve. The overseer, Sergeant Lorenzo BELL, lives in the prison<BR> and his office work is creditably transacted, bookkeeping and<BR> clerical work being done with the accuracy and despatch that obtain<BR> in large legal concerns anywhere, and all this efficiency is the<BR> work of the prisoners. There are carpenters who are at present<BR> turning out furniture which is used only by officers at the military<BR> post; there are shoemakers who are skilled in their trade; tailors<BR> who are put to work on the prison clothing; and each one at his<BR> trade as in some big industrial school.<BR> <BR> For the most part, the men are set to work about the grounds of the<BR> reservation and some of the boys are at work in the officers' homes,<BR> for which they are paid not only in money but in clothes when their<BR> terms of imprisonment expires. The boys are always anxious to be<BR> attached to duty in an officer's house; their food is better and,<BR> take it all in all, they have more privileges than they would enjoy<BR> while at work outside. There are 235 at the prison at the present<BR> time and the great common cause of their desertion is drink.<BR> Whenever the prisoners show rebellion to the order of discipline<BR> they are put to work on the rock pile and a few of the obstreperous<BR> ones are confined to the solitary cells or dungeons on the top<BR> terrace, which are reached by a winding stair, in the tower.<BR> <BR> The general cells are all built large enough to furnish twelve beds<BR> and are perfect in ventilation and sanitation. Each cell opens upon<BR> the inner garden, in true Spanish fashion.<BR> <BR> Each prisoner is furnished with a roughly made cupboard for books<BR> and clothes and the little keepsakes from home, and are all well<BR> decorated with photographs. Castle Williams is now the proud<BR> possessor of a military prison band that practices regularly every<BR> evening and frequently gives concerts on the grounds.<BR> <BR> On Sunday the prisoners in a body attend the services at the<BR> Episcopal Church at 3 P.M., and enter into the song services with<BR> keen enjoyment. They are not compelled to attend church but do so<BR> voluntarily, and the close communion which exists between Chaplain<BR> SMITH and the prisoners has helped to make many a hard place smooth.<BR> There are stories of hardships, severe discipline and suffering that<BR> only a sympathetic servant of God can relieve, and thus many of<BR> these soldiers who have served with military distinction are<BR> reconciled to the life made melancholy by what might have been. Many<BR> of them are under the ban of military crimes that would be called<BR> misdemeanors in common law, and sometimes the army is more merciful<BR> than civil justice. One man must serve two years for killing a<BR> Chinaman, and he was glad that he was tried by the army; another<BR> went to sleep at his post and for two years he will regret that<BR> civil law could not try him. When the prisoner has served his time,<BR> allowing a deduction for good behavior, he is given a new suit of<BR> clothes and $5 when he leaves Castle Williams.<BR> <BR> <BR> Transcribed for the Brooklyn info pages by S. Anderson<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_cc.18095606.2b74ecb9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:52:16 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Leland Torrence <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "a new suit of clothes and $5" -- Castle Williams on Governors Island, 1907 In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_eyZ0HcAlpiYAjJk8gaWtaA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_eyZ0HcAlpiYAjJk8gaWtaA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey, sign me up. What sorts of "criminals" and "obstreperous" fellows got to go? Best, Leland -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Met History Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 6:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: "a new suit of clothes and $5" -- Castle Williams on Governors Island, 1907 Transcribed from Brooklyn Standard Union, June 9, 1907, cross posted from Brooklyn-L UNCLE SAM'S PRISONERS IN CASTLE WILLIAMS Tuesday's Jail Delivery Attracts Attention to Historic Old Fortress on Governor's Island -- Every-Day Life of the Military Prisoners Confined There Attention is once more attracted to Castle Williams, the military prison on Governor's Island, as a result of the successful break for liberty made last Tuesday by three prisoners. The escape was one of the most daring in the history of the old fortress, which for over a century has overlooked the waters of New York Harbor. Of late years there have been an unusual number of escapes from the old prison, which have been planned and carried out in the face of tremendous odds. In several cases it was necessary for jail breakers to swim across the channel to the Brooklyn shore, a feat which has been accomplished on several occasions, the last time in midwinter, with the water freezing cold. The majority of escapes, however, have been effected as in the case last week, with the aid of confederates outside, who supplied saws, etc., as well as a boat to take the fugitives across the channel. Castle Williams itself is an imposing structure, built in the style of the old Spanish architecture. It is circular in shape, with a large garden in the center, above which is flanked two rows of cells. The garden is covered with closely cut grass and decorated with pyramids of cannon balls. Everything about the place shines with the appearance of militant care and were it not for the sordid life within, with its compulsory obedience and its counted hours, the lines (as printed) of a military prisoner at Castle Williams would be far from a punishment. The ground floor of the castle is used entirely for offices of the prison sergeant, the dining room, the carpenter shop, laundry, bake shop and kitchen. The dining room has been enlarged to accommodate the growing capacity of the newcomers and now has been extended to include three rooms connected by huge archways. Castle Williams has a physiognomy of its own and its boarders, while not enjoying table luxuries, have many of the comforts of big hotels to cater to human needs. The cells throughout are heated by steam and lighted by electricity. The baths are in excellent condition, and the prison fare, which is always wholesome, is made a special feature at holiday festivities. The menu for each meal is posted on the dining room wall and the following is a sample of the every day fare. Castle Williams, Monday, May 19, 1907: Menu: Breakfast -- Fried bacon, fried potatoes, bread and coffee. Dinner -- roast young pork, brown gravy, mashed potatoes, mashed turnips, rice pudding, with milk and eggs. Supper -- Baked pork and beans, pickles, bread and coffee. The dining room is not large enough to accommodate the present number of boarders at one time, and so the prisoners eat in first and second calls to mess. The kitchen is a continuation of these rooms and the bake shop opens off the kitchen. When a prisoner enters Castle Williams, he is asked what trade or occupation he pursued prior to entering the army and he is then put to work in a position in which he can do the most good with his time to serve. The overseer, Sergeant Lorenzo BELL, lives in the prison and his office work is creditably transacted, bookkeeping and clerical work being done with the accuracy and despatch that obtain in large legal concerns anywhere, and all this efficiency is the work of the prisoners. There are carpenters who are at present turning out furniture which is used only by officers at the military post; there are shoemakers who are skilled in their trade; tailors who are put to work on the prison clothing; and each one at his trade as in some big industrial school. For the most part, the men are set to work about the grounds of the reservation and some of the boys are at work in the officers' homes, for which they are paid not only in money but in clothes when their terms of imprisonment expires. The boys are always anxious to be attached to duty in an officer's house; their food is better and, take it all in all, they have more privileges than they would enjoy while at work outside. There are 235 at the prison at the present time and the great common cause of their desertion is drink. Whenever the prisoners show rebellion to the order of discipline they are put to work on the rock pile and a few of the obstreperous ones are confined to the solitary cells or dungeons on the top terrace, which are reached by a winding stair, in the tower. The general cells are all built large enough to furnish twelve beds and are perfect in ventilation and sanitation. Each cell opens upon the inner garden, in true Spanish fashion. Each prisoner is furnished with a roughly made cupboard for books and clothes and the little keepsakes from home, and are all well decorated with photographs. Castle Williams is now the proud possessor of a military prison band that practices regularly every evening and frequently gives concerts on the grounds. On Sunday the prisoners in a body attend the services at the Episcopal Church at 3 P.M., and enter into the song services with keen enjoyment. They are not compelled to attend church but do so voluntarily, and the close communion which exists between Chaplain SMITH and the prisoners has helped to make many a hard place smooth. There are stories of hardships, severe discipline and suffering that only a sympathetic servant of God can relieve, and thus many of these soldiers who have served with military distinction are reconciled to the life made melancholy by what might have been. Many of them are under the ban of military crimes that would be called misdemeanors in common law, and sometimes the army is more merciful than civil justice. One man must serve two years for killing a Chinaman, and he was glad that he was tried by the army; another went to sleep at his post and for two years he will regret that civil law could not try him. When the prisoner has served his time, allowing a deduction for good behavior, he is given a new suit of clothes and $5 when he leaves Castle Williams. Transcribed for the Brooklyn info pages by S. Anderson --Boundary_(ID_eyZ0HcAlpiYAjJk8gaWtaA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=577484911-07022003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Hey, sign me up. What sorts of "criminals" and "obstreperous" fellows<BR>got to go?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=577484911-07022003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=577484911-07022003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Leland</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Met History<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 07, 2003 6:04 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> "a new suit of clothes and $5" -- Castle Williams on Governors Island, 1907<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Transcribed from Brooklyn Standard Union, June 9, 1907, cross posted from Brooklyn-L<BR><BR><BR>UNCLE SAM'S PRISONERS IN CASTLE WILLIAMS<BR><BR>Tuesday's Jail Delivery Attracts Attention to Historic Old Fortress<BR>on Governor's Island -- Every-Day Life of the Military Prisoners<BR>Confined There<BR><BR>Attention is once more attracted to Castle Williams, the military<BR>prison on Governor's Island, as a result of the successful break for<BR>liberty made last Tuesday by three prisoners.<BR><BR>The escape was one of the most daring in the history of the old<BR>fortress, which for over a century has overlooked the waters of New<BR>York Harbor. Of late years there have been an unusual number of<BR>escapes from the old prison, which have been planned and carried out<BR>in the face of tremendous odds. In several cases it was necessary<BR>for jail breakers to swim across the channel to the Brooklyn shore,<BR>a feat which has been accomplished on several occasions, the last<BR>time in midwinter, with the water freezing cold. The majority of<BR>escapes, however, have been effected as in the case last week, with<BR>the aid of confederates outside, who supplied saws, etc., as well as<BR>a boat to take the fugitives across the channel.<BR><BR>Castle Williams itself is an imposing structure, built in the style<BR>of the old Spanish architecture. It is circular in shape, with a<BR>large garden in the center, above which is flanked two rows of<BR>cells.<BR><BR>The garden is covered with closely cut grass and decorated with<BR>pyramids of cannon balls. Everything about the place shines with the<BR>appearance of militant care and were it not for the sordid life<BR>within, with its compulsory obedience and its counted hours, the<BR>lines (as printed) of a military prisoner at Castle Williams would<BR>be far from a punishment.<BR><BR>The ground floor of the castle is used entirely for offices of the<BR>prison sergeant, the dining room, the carpenter shop, laundry, bake<BR>shop and kitchen.<BR><BR>The dining room has been enlarged to accommodate the growing<BR>capacity of the newcomers and now has been extended to include three<BR>rooms connected by huge archways.<BR><BR>Castle Williams has a physiognomy of its own and its boarders, while<BR>not enjoying table luxuries, have many of the comforts of big hotels<BR>to cater to human needs.<BR><BR>The cells throughout are heated by steam and lighted by electricity.<BR>The baths are in excellent condition, and the prison fare, which is<BR>always wholesome, is made a special feature at holiday festivities.<BR>The menu for each meal is posted on the dining room wall and the<BR>following is a sample of the every day fare.<BR><BR>Castle Williams, Monday, May 19, 1907:<BR><BR>Menu: Breakfast -- Fried bacon, fried potatoes, bread and coffee.<BR>Dinner -- roast young pork, brown gravy, mashed potatoes, mashed<BR>turnips, rice pudding, with milk and eggs. Supper -- Baked pork and<BR>beans, pickles, bread and coffee.<BR><BR>The dining room is not large enough to accommodate the present<BR>number of boarders at one time, and so the prisoners eat in first<BR>and second calls to mess. The kitchen is a continuation of these<BR>rooms and the bake shop opens off the kitchen.<BR><BR>When a prisoner enters Castle Williams, he is asked what trade or<BR>occupation he pursued prior to entering the army and he is then put<BR>to work in a position in which he can do the most good with his time<BR>to serve. The overseer, Sergeant Lorenzo BELL, lives in the prison<BR>and his office work is creditably transacted, bookkeeping and<BR>clerical work being done with the accuracy and despatch that obtain<BR>in large legal concerns anywhere, and all this efficiency is the<BR>work of the prisoners. There are carpenters who are at present<BR>turning out furniture which is used only by officers at the military<BR>post; there are shoemakers who are skilled in their trade; tailors<BR>who are put to work on the prison clothing; and each one at his<BR>trade as in some big industrial school.<BR><BR>For the most part, the men are set to work about the grounds of the<BR>reservation and some of the boys are at work in the officers' homes,<BR>for which they are paid not only in money but in clothes when their<BR>terms of imprisonment expires. The boys are always anxious to be<BR>attached to duty in an officer's house; their food is better and,<BR>take it all in all, they have more privileges than they would enjoy<BR>while at work outside. There are 235 at the prison at the present<BR>time and the great common cause of their desertion is drink.<BR>Whenever the prisoners show rebellion to the order of discipline<BR>they are put to work on the rock pile and a few of the obstreperous<BR>ones are confined to the solitary cells or dungeons on the top<BR>terrace, which are reached by a winding stair, in the tower.<BR><BR>The general cells are all built large enough to furnish twelve beds<BR>and are perfect in ventilation and sanitation. Each cell opens upon<BR>the inner garden, in true Spanish fashion.<BR><BR>Each prisoner is furnished with a roughly made cupboard for books<BR>and clothes and the little keepsakes from home, and are all well<BR>decorated with photographs. Castle Williams is now the proud<BR>possessor of a military prison band that practices regularly every<BR>evening and frequently gives concerts on the grounds.<BR><BR>On Sunday the prisoners in a body attend the services at the<BR>Episcopal Church at 3 P.M., and enter into the song services with<BR>keen enjoyment. They are not compelled to attend church but do so<BR>voluntarily, and the close communion which exists between Chaplain<BR>SMITH and the prisoners has helped to make many a hard place smooth.<BR>There are stories of hardships, severe discipline and suffering that<BR>only a sympathetic servant of God can relieve, and thus many of<BR>these soldiers who have served with military distinction are<BR>reconciled to the life made melancholy by what might have been. Many<BR>of them are under the ban of military crimes that would be called<BR>misdemeanors in common law, and sometimes the army is more merciful<BR>than civil justice. One man must serve two years for killing a<BR>Chinaman, and he was glad that he was tried by the army; another<BR>went to sleep at his post and for two years he will regret that<BR>civil law could not try him. When the prisoner has served his time,<BR>allowing a deduction for good behavior, he is given a new suit of<BR>clothes and $5 when he leaves Castle Williams.<BR><BR><BR>Transcribed for the Brooklyn info pages by S. Anderson<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_eyZ0HcAlpiYAjJk8gaWtaA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:30:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "a new suit of clothes and $5" -- Castle Williams on Governors Island, 1... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a7.2e077db5.2b750f03_boundary" --part1_a7.2e077db5.2b750f03_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/7/2003 6:52:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Hey, sign me up. What sorts of "criminals" and "obstreperous" fellows > got to go? > Leland, Of the two guys noted as "in" for 2 years, one "killed a Chinaman," and the other slept on guard duty. How's that for uniform sentencing? Seemed to me that the diet was a little heavy on pork, and I bet it wasn't "the new white meat" variety we have today, either. Ralph --part1_a7.2e077db5.2b750f03_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/7/2003 6:52:54 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Hey, sign me up. What sorts of "criminals" and "obstr= eperous" fellows<BR> got to go?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff= " SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Leland,<BR> <BR> Of the two guys noted as "in" for 2 years, one "killed a Chinaman," and the=20= other slept on guard duty. How's that for uniform sentencing?<BR> <BR> Seemed to me that the diet was a little heavy on pork, and I bet it wasn't "= the new white meat" variety we have today, either.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_a7.2e077db5.2b750f03_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:17:23 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles, Straw Piles & Dams In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We built dams in the brook so we could have a place to swim. We didn't have no "cement pond" to swim in, if we wanted to swim we had to find a good place in the brook to dam up and swim there. There is still on place in Putney where they swim at a dammed up brook. You should see those millionaires sons at the school where I work, they love to go there to swim. I no longer care for it as it's too cold. Ruth At 1:32 PM -0500 2/6/03, Ken Follett wrote: My earliest construction memories are of the hydro dynamic. Rudy, The dirt pile predates the dam era... the dam era was certainly a hydraulic project and went on for several seasons, summer into winter. We had blue clay, skeeters, crayfish, pollywogs, mayflies and algae to look after. A great deal of canal building and excavation of springs. Spring storms would usually wipe out all our work. The dam work was where I got started piling stones atop other stones. ...whose past relationship with our government had yielded the same results with their long houses and sacred lands. Yes, seems I have several indirect relatives, western NY Seneca, who were displaced from their homes from like flooding. ][<en -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:12:49 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles, Straw Piles & Dams In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ralph, They paved the creek bed?????? Why? Isn't that illegal??? Did the fish like it that way?? Ruth At 10:44 AM -0500 2/6/03, Ralph Walter wrote: In a message dated 2/6/2003 10:27:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: My earliest construction memories are of the hydro dynamic. Great fun could be had damming up the slow meandering flow of French Creek in the summer. We would build communities along the edges of the flow and then flood them by damming the creek. Little did I realize then that I would make friends in later life with Crow Indians whose past relationship with our government had yielded the same results with their long houses and sacred lands. I, too, engaged in hydrodynamic activities in my yout', in La Ballona ("the whale, for our non-Spanish speaking friends) creek behind our house in LA. What had been a natural creek with banks probably 25' high (which is to say the creek bed was about 25' below grade on either side had had its banks paved (but not it's bed) before I toddled on the scene. We made dams, built walkable bridges, threw large numbers of rocks, etc. Then when I was probably about 10, they decided to pave the creek bed and it was never so much fun anymore. Sometime's we'd take fluorescent lamps (not the fixture, just the lamp) and hurl them, Zeus-like downhill. THAT was fun; didn't have no damn EPA telling you what little boys could throw in them days, no sir. Looks like the Los Angeles River now, which is to say a large concrete-lined trench, with a little water down there somewhere. Sigh. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:20:41 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I believe this is the high type of discourse BP should aim for... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If you all start using that high falutin' sort of talk on here this ol' country gal is outta here. I like the good old garden variety English we all speak--even that with a New Jersey accent. Ruth At 11:04 AM -0500 2/6/03, Met History wrote: ...cross posted from SAH-L: From: "Thomas Beischer" <[log in to unmask]> Eric- If you look in Annette Cire and Haila Ochs's Die Zeitschrift als Manifest, there is a fairly extensive list of journals in the back with brief explanations. One of yours is listed (p. 206), Contimporanul. It reads: Bukarest 1922-32. Hg. Marcel Janco und Ion Vinea. May I also suggest that your "pasmoll" might be "pasmo" listed on p. 207. It is listed under Tschechoslowakei and reads: Pasmo, Brunn 1924-26, Hg. Artus Cernik Cheers, Tom Thomas G. Beischer PhD Candidate in History, Theory and Criticism of Art and Architecture at MIT 3348 Scott Street San Francisco, CA 94123 USA -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:23:26 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles, Straw Piles & Dams, and Prince Charles in the Tube MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4a.17d075e3.2b75377e_boundary" --part1_4a.17d075e3.2b75377e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/7/2003 10:46:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ralph, They paved the creek bed?????? Why? Isn't that illegal??? Did > the fish like it that way?? Ruth Well, see, it started out as a creek bed, but was used for a flood control channel. Weren't no fish to speak of that I ever saw in there, although as I remember there may once or twice have been what mah granny would have called "minners," and I definitely remember pollywogs (not them other kinda wogs like Pyrate hangs around with) and millions of frogs one summer (maybe 1958). Weren't no PETM or PETP then, much less an EPA, and nobody'd even dreamed up the notion of an EIS. Plus, Prince Charles didn't come to visit and ask the little buggers if they liked the proposed paving, or tell them he aspired to become a feminine hygiene product. Simpler days, indeed. Ralph --part1_4a.17d075e3.2b75377e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/7/2003 10:46:52 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ralph, They paved the cre= ek bed?????? Why? Isn't that illegal??? Did<BR> the fish like it that way?? Ruth</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Well, see, it started out as a creek bed, but was used for a flood control c= hannel. Weren't no fish to speak of that I ever saw in there, although= as I remember there may once or twice have been what mah granny would have=20= called "minners," and I definitely remember pollywogs (not them other kinda=20= wogs like Pyrate hangs around with) and millions of frogs one summer (maybe=20= 1958).<BR> <BR> Weren't no PETM or PETP then, much less an EPA, and nobody'd even dreamed up= the notion of an EIS. Plus, Prince Charles didn't come to visit and a= sk the little buggers if they liked the proposed paving, or tell them he asp= ired to become a feminine hygiene product.<BR> <BR> Simpler days, indeed.<BR> <BR> Ralph </FONT></HTML> --part1_4a.17d075e3.2b75377e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:31:42 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Needed ... a good wine/liquor store in Detroit. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d.9562f1e.2b75396e_boundary" --part1_d.9562f1e.2b75396e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any ideas? Thoughtfully single-spaced by, Christopher --part1_d.9562f1e.2b75396e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Any ideas? &n= bsp; Thoughtfully single-spaced by, Christopher </FONT></HTML> --part1_d.9562f1e.2b75396e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:45:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Needed ... a good wine/liquor store in Detroit. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_143.9dee5aa.2b753c93_boundary" --part1_143.9dee5aa.2b753c93_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/7/2003 11:32:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Any ideas? Thoughtfully single-spaced by, Christopher NightTrainExpress,Boone'sFarm,Manischewitzprobablyavailablemostlocations; ChateauThamesEmbankmentmaybehardertofind;beyond that,adviseBYOB. 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Whaddaya,tryi= ngtoavoidNYCsalestaxesagain?Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_143.9dee5aa.2b753c93_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:17:44 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: (no subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_5b.35594e55.2b754438_boundary" --part1_5b.35594e55.2b754438_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aviation Week & Space Technology > USAF Imagery Confirms Columbia Wing Damaged By Craig Covault > High-resolution images taken from a ground-based Air Force tracking camera in the southwestern U.S. show serious structural damage to the inboard leading edge of Columbia's left wing, as the crippled orbiter flew overhead about 60 sec. before the vehicle broke up over Texas killing the seven astronauts on board Feb. 1. According to sources close to the investigation, the images, under analysis at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, show a jagged edge on the left inboard wing structure near where the wing begins to intersect the fuselage. They also show the orbiter's right aft yaw thrusters firing, trying to correct the vehicle's attitude that was being adversely affected by the left wing damage. Columbia's fuselage and right wing appear normal. Unlike the damaged and jagged left wing section, the right wing appears smooth along its entire length. The imagery is consistent with telemetry. The ragged edge on the left leading edge, indicates that either a small structural breach--such as a crack--occurred, allowing the 2,500F reentry heating to erode additional structure there, or that a small portion of the leading edge fell off at that location. Either way, the damage affected the vehicle's flying qualities as well as allowed hot gases to flow into critical wing structure--a fatal combination. It is possible, but yet not confirmed, that the impact of foam debris from the shuttle's external tank during launch could have played a role in damage to the wing leading edge, where the deformity appears in USAF imagery. If that is confirmed by the independent investigation team, it would mean that, contrary to initial shuttle program analysis, the tank debris event at launch played a key role in the root cause of the accident. Another key factor is that the leading edge of the shuttle wing, where the jagged shape was photographed, transitions from black thermal protection tiles to a much different mechanical system made of reinforced carbon-carbon material that is bolted on, rather than glued on as the tiles are. This means that in addition to the possible failure of black tile at the point where the wing joins the fuselage, a failure involving the attachment mechanisms for the leading edge sections could also be a factor, either related or not to the debris impact. The actual front structure of a shuttle wing is flat. To provide aerodynamic shape and heat protection, each wing is fitted with 22 U-shaped reinforced carbon-carbon (RCC) leading-edge structures. The carbon material in the leading edge, as well as the orbiter nose cap, is designed to protect the shuttle from temperatures above 2,300F during reentry. Any breach of this leading-edge material would have catastrophic consequences. The U-shaped RCC sections are attached to the wing "with a series of floating joints to reduce loading on the panels due to wing deflections," according to Boeing data on the attachment mechanism. "The [critical heat protection] seal between each wing leading-edge panel is referred to as a 'tee' seal," according to Boeing, and is also made of a carbon material. The tee seals allow lateral motion and thermal expansion differences between the carbon sections and sections of the orbiter wing that remain much cooler during reentry. In addition to debris impact issues, investigators will likely examine whether any structural bending between the cooler wing structure and the more-than-2,000F leading edge sections could have played a role in the accident. There is insulation packed between the cooler wing structure and the bowl-shaped cavity formed by the carbon leading-edge sections. The RCC leading-edge structures are bolted to the wing using Inconel fittings that attach to aluminum flanges on the front of the wing. The initial NASA Mission Management Team (MMT) assessment of the debris impact--made on Jan. 18, two days after launch--noted "The strike appears to have occurred on or relatively close to the "wing glove" near the orbiter fuselage. The term "wing glove" generally refers to the area where the RCC bolt-on material is closest to the fuselage. This is also the general area where USAF imagery shows structural damage. The second MMT summary analyzing the debris hit was made on Jan. 20 and had no mention of the leading-edge wing glove area. That report was more focused on orbiter black tiles on the vehicle's belly. The third and final summary issued on Jan. 27 discusses the black tiles again, but also specifically says "Damage to the RCC [wing leading edge] should be limited to [its] coating only and have no mission impact." Investigators in Houston are trying to match the location of the debris impact with the jagged edge shown in the Air Force imagery. Columbia reentry accident investigators are also trying to determine if, as in the case of Challenger's accident 17 years ago, an undesirable materials characteristic noted on previous flights--in this case the STS-112 separation of external tank insulation foam debris--was misjudged by engineers as to its potential for harm, possibly by using analytical tools and information inadequate to truly identify and quantify the threat to the shuttle. As of late last week, NASA strongly asserted this was not the case, but intense analysis on that possibility continues. The shuttle is now grounded indefinitely and the impact on major crew resupply and assembly flights to the International Space Station remains under intense review. Killed in the accident were STS-107 mission commander USAF Col. Rick Husband; copilot Navy Cdr. William McCool; flight engineer Kalpana Chawla; payload commander USAF Lt. Col. Michael Anderson; mission specialist physician astronauts Navy Capt. Laurel Clark and Navy Capt. David Brown; and Israel Air Force Col. Ilan Ramon. "We continue to recover crew remains and we are handling that process with the utmost care, the utmost respect and dignity," said Ronald Dittemore, shuttle program manager. No matter what the investigations show, there are no apparent credible crew survival options for the failure Columbia experienced. With the ISS out of reach in a far different orbit, there were no credible rescue options even if wing damage had been apparent before reentry--which it was not. If, in the midst of its 16-day flight, wing damage had been found to be dire, the only potential--but still unlikely--option would have been the formulation over several days by Mission Control of a profile that could have, perhaps, reduced heating on the damaged wing at the expense of the other wing for an unguided reentry, with scant hope the vehicle would remain controllable to about 40,000 ft., allowing for crew bailout over an ocean. Reentry is a starkly unforgiving environment where three out of the four fatal manned space flight accidents during the last 35 years have occurred. These include the Soyuz 1 reentry accident that killed cosmonaut Vladimir Komarov in 1967 and the 1971 Soyuz 11 reentry accident that killed three cosmonauts returning after the first long-duration stay on the Salyut 1 space station. The only fatal launch accident has been Challenger in 1986, although Apollo astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee were killed when fire developed in their spacecraft during a launch pad test not involving launch. No other accident in aviation history has been seen by so many eyewitnesses than the loss of Columbia--visible in five states. Telemetry and photographic analysis indicate the breakup of the historic orbiter took place as she slowed from Mach 20-to-18 across California, Nevada, Arizona and New Mexico with the loss of structural integrity 205,000 ft. over north-central Texas where most of the debris fell. The science-driven STS-107 crew was completing 16 days of complex work in their Spacehab Research Double module and were 16 min. from landing at Kennedy when lost. Landing was scheduled for 8:16 a.m. CST. Abnormal telemetry events in the reentry began at 7:52 a.m. CST as the vehicle was crossing the coast north of San Francisco at 43 mi. alt., about Mach 20. The orbiter at this time was in a 43-deg. right bank completing its initial bank maneuver to the south for initial energy dissipation and ranging toward the Kennedy runway still nearly 3,000 mi. away. That initial bank had been as steep as about 80 deg. between Hawaii and the California coast, a normal flight path angle for the early part of the reentry. The abnormal events seen on orbiter telemetry in Houston indicate a slow penetration of reentry heat into the orbiter and damage on the wing, overpowering the flight control system. Key events were: * 7:52 a.m. CST: Three left main landing gear brakeline temperatures show an unusual rise. "This was the first occurrence of a significant thermal event in the left wheel well," Dittemore said. Engineers do not believe the left wheel well was breached, but rather that hot gases were somehow finding a flow path within the wing to reach the wheel well. * 7:53 a.m. CST: A fourth left brakeline strut temperature measurement rose significantly--about 30-40 deg. in 5 min. * 7:54 a.m. CST: With the orbiter over eastern California and western Nevada, the mid-fuselage mold line where the left wing meets the fuselage showed an unusual temperature rise. The 60F rise over 5 min. was not dramatic, but showed that something was heating the wing fuselage interface area at this time. Wing leading edge and belly temperatures were over 2,000F. While the outside fuselage wall was heating, the inside wall remained cool as normal. * 7:55 a.m. CST: A fifth left main gear temperature sensor showed an unusual rise. * 7:57 a.m. CST: As Columbia was passing over Arizona and New Mexico, the orbiter's upper and lower left wing temperature sensors failed, probably indicating their lines had been cut. The orbiter was also rolling back to the left into about a 75-deg. left bank angle, again to dissipate energy and for navigation and guidance toward Runway 33 at Kennedy, then about 1,800 mi. away. * 7:58 a.m. CST: Still over New Mexico, the elevons began to move to adjust orbiter roll axis trim, indicating an increase in drag on the left side of the vehicle. That could be indicative of "rough tile or missing tile but we are not sure," Dittemore said. At the same time, the elevons were reacting to increased drag on the left side of the vehicle, the left main landing gear tire pressures and wheel temperature measurements failed. This was indicative of a loss of the sensor, not the explosion or failure of the left main gear tires, Dittemore believes. The sensors were lost in a staggered fashion. * 7:59 a.m. CST: Additional elevon motion is commanded by the flight control system to counteract left side drag. The drag was trying to roll the vehicle to the left, while the flight control system was commanding the elevons to roll it back to the right. But the rate of left roll was beginning to overpower the elevons, so the control system fired two 870-lb.-thrust right yaw thrusters to help maintain the proper flight path angle. The firing lasted 1.5 sec. and, along with the tire pressure data and elevon data, would have been noted by the pilots. At about this time, the pilots made a short transmission that was clipped and essentially unintelligible. In Mission Control, astronaut Marine Lt. Col. Charles Hobaugh, the spacecraft communicator on reentry flight director Leroy Cain's team, radioed "Columbia, we see your tire pressure [telemetry] messages and we did not copy your last transmission." One of the pilots then radioed "Roger," but appeared to be cut off in mid-transmission by static. For a moment there were additional static and sounds similar to an open microphone on Columbia but no transmissions from the crew. All data from the orbiter then stopped and the position plot display in Mission Control froze over Texas, although an additional 30 sec. of poor data may have been captured. Controllers in Mission Control thought they were experiencing an unusual but non-critical data drop-out. But they had also taken notice of the unusual buildup of sensor telemetry in the preceding few minutes. About 3 min. after all data flow stopped, Hobaugh in Mission Control began transmitting in the blind to Columbia on the UHF backup radio system. "Columbia, Houston, UHF comm. check" he repeated every 15-30 sec., but to no avail. In central Texas, thousands of people at that moment were observing the orbiter break up at Mach 18.3 and 207,000 ft. Milt Heflin, chief of the flight director's office, said he looked at the frozen data plots. "I and others stared at that for a long time because the tracking ended over Texas. It just stopped. It was then that I reflected back on what I saw [in Mission Control] with Challenger." The loss of Challenger occurred 17 years and four days before the loss of Columbia. "Our landscape has changed," Heflin said. "The space flight business today is going to be much different than yesterday. "It was different after the Apollo fire, it was different after Challenger." Columbia, the first winged reusable manned spacecraft first launched in April 1981, was lost on her 28th mission on the 113th shuttle flight. --part1_5b.35594e55.2b754438_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Aviation Week & Space Technology =20 <BR><IMG SRC=3D"http://www.aviationnow.com/media/images/x.gif" WIDTH=3D"1"=20= HEIGHT=3D"20" BORDER=3D"0"> =20 <BR>USAF Imagery Confirms Columbia Wing Damaged <I>By Craig Covault </I>= =20 <BR><IMG SRC=3D"http://www.aviationnow.com/media/images/x.gif" WIDTH=3D"1"=20= HEIGHT=3D"20" BORDER=3D"0"> =20 <BR> High-resolution images taken from a ground-based Air Force tracking cam= era in the southwestern U.S. show serious structural damage to the inboard l= eading edge of Columbia's left wing, as the crippled orbiter flew overhead a= bout 60 sec. before the vehicle broke up over Texas killing the seven astron= auts on board Feb. 1.=20 <BR> <BR> <BR>According to sources close to the investigation, the images, under analy= sis at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, show a jagged edge on the left i= nboard wing structure near where the wing begins to intersect the fuselage.=20= They also show the orbiter's right aft yaw thrusters firing, trying to corre= ct the vehicle's attitude that was being adversely affected by the left wing= damage. Columbia's fuselage and right wing appear normal. Unlike the damage= d and jagged left wing section, the right wing appears smooth along its enti= re length. The imagery is consistent with telemetry.=20 <BR> <BR>The ragged edge on the left leading edge, indicates that either a small=20= structural breach--such as a crack--occurred, allowing the 2,500F reentry he= ating to erode additional structure there, or that a small portion of the le= ading edge fell off at that location.=20 <BR> <BR>Either way, the damage affected the vehicle's flying qualities as well a= s allowed hot gases to flow into critical wing structure--a fatal combinatio= n.=20 <BR> <BR>It is possible, but yet not confirmed, that the impact of foam debris fr= om the shuttle's external tank during launch could have played a role in dam= age to the wing leading edge, where the deformity appears in USAF imagery.=20 <BR> <BR>If that is confirmed by the independent investigation team, it would mea= n that, contrary to initial shuttle program analysis, the tank debris event=20= at launch played a key role in the root cause of the accident.=20 <BR> <BR>Another key factor is that the leading edge of the shuttle wing, where t= he jagged shape was photographed, transitions from black thermal protection=20= tiles to a much different mechanical system made of reinforced carbon-carbon= material that is bolted on, rather than glued on as the tiles are.=20 <BR> <BR>This means that in addition to the possible failure of black tile at the= point where the wing joins the fuselage, a failure involving the attachment= mechanisms for the leading edge sections could also be a factor, either rel= ated or not to the debris impact. The actual front structure of a shuttle wi= ng is flat. To provide aerodynamic shape and heat protection, each wing is f= itted with 22 U-shaped reinforced carbon-carbon (RCC) leading-edge structure= s. The carbon material in the leading edge, as well as the orbiter nose cap,= is designed to protect the shuttle from temperatures above 2,300F during re= entry. Any breach of this leading-edge material would have catastrophic cons= equences.=20 <BR> <BR>The U-shaped RCC sections are attached to the wing "with a series of flo= ating joints to reduce loading on the panels due to wing deflections," accor= ding to Boeing data on the attachment mechanism.=20 <BR> <BR>"The [critical heat protection] seal between each wing leading-edge pane= l is referred to as a 'tee' seal," according to Boeing, and is also made of=20= a carbon material.=20 <BR> <BR>The tee seals allow lateral motion and thermal expansion differences bet= ween the carbon sections and sections of the orbiter wing that remain much c= ooler during reentry.=20 <BR> <BR>In addition to debris impact issues, investigators will likely examine w= hether any structural bending between the cooler wing structure and the more= -than-2,000F leading edge sections could have played a role in the accident.= There is insulation packed between the cooler wing structure and the bowl-s= haped cavity formed by the carbon leading-edge sections.=20 <BR> <BR>The RCC leading-edge structures are bolted to the wing using Inconel fit= tings that attach to aluminum flanges on the front of the wing.=20 <BR> <BR>The initial NASA Mission Management Team (MMT) assessment of the debris=20= impact--made on Jan. 18, two days after launch--noted "The strike appears to= have occurred on or relatively close to the "wing glove" near the orbiter f= uselage.=20 <BR> <BR>The term "wing glove" generally refers to the area where the RCC bolt-on= material is closest to the fuselage. This is also the general area where US= AF imagery shows structural damage.=20 <BR> <BR>The second MMT summary analyzing the debris hit was made on Jan. 20 and=20= had no mention of the leading-edge wing glove area. That report was more foc= used on orbiter black tiles on the vehicle's belly. The third and final summ= ary issued on Jan. 27 discusses the black tiles again, but also specifically= says "Damage to the RCC [wing leading edge] should be limited to [its] coat= ing only and have no mission impact." Investigators in Houston are trying to= match the location of the debris impact with the jagged edge shown in the A= ir Force imagery.=20 <BR> <BR>Columbia reentry accident investigators are also trying to determine if,= as in the case of Challenger's accident 17 years ago, an undesirable materi= als characteristic noted on previous flights--in this case the STS-112 separ= ation of external tank insulation foam debris--was misjudged by engineers as= to its potential for harm, possibly by using analytical tools and informati= on inadequate to truly identify and quantify the threat to the shuttle. As o= f late last week, NASA strongly asserted this was not the case, but intense=20= analysis on that possibility continues.=20 <BR> <BR>The shuttle is now grounded indefinitely and the impact on major crew re= supply and assembly flights to the International Space Station remains under= intense review.=20 <BR> <BR>Killed in the accident were STS-107 mission commander USAF Col. Rick Hus= band; copilot Navy Cdr. William McCool; flight engineer Kalpana Chawla; payl= oad commander USAF Lt. Col. Michael Anderson; mission specialist physician a= stronauts Navy Capt. Laurel Clark and Navy Capt. David Brown; and Israel Air= Force Col. Ilan Ramon.=20 <BR> <BR>"We continue to recover crew remains and we are handling that process wi= th the utmost care, the utmost respect and dignity," said Ronald Dittemore,=20= shuttle program manager.=20 <BR> <BR>No matter what the investigations show, there are no apparent credible c= rew survival options for the failure Columbia experienced. With the ISS out=20= of reach in a far different orbit, there were no credible rescue options eve= n if wing damage had been apparent before reentry--which it was not.=20 <BR> <BR>If, in the midst of its 16-day flight, wing damage had been found to be=20= dire, the only potential--but still unlikely--option would have been the for= mulation over several days by Mission Control of a profile that could have,=20= perhaps, reduced heating on the damaged wing at the expense of the other win= g for an unguided reentry, with scant hope the vehicle would remain controll= able to about 40,000 ft., allowing for crew bailout over an ocean.=20 <BR> <BR>Reentry is a starkly unforgiving environment where three out of the four= fatal manned space flight accidents during the last 35 years have occurred.= =20 <BR> <BR>These include the Soyuz 1 reentry accident that killed cosmonaut Vladimi= r Komarov in 1967 and the 1971 Soyuz 11 reentry accident that killed three c= osmonauts returning after the first long-duration stay on the Salyut 1 space= station.=20 <BR> <BR>The only fatal launch accident has been Challenger in 1986, although Apo= llo astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee were killed when fire= developed in their spacecraft during a launch pad test not involving launch= .=20 <BR> <BR>No other accident in aviation history has been seen by so many eyewitnes= ses than the loss of Columbia--visible in five states.=20 <BR> <BR>Telemetry and photographic analysis indicate the breakup of the historic= orbiter took place as she slowed from Mach 20-to-18 across California, Neva= da, Arizona and New Mexico with the loss of structural integrity 205,000 ft.= over north-central Texas where most of the debris fell.=20 <BR> <BR>The science-driven STS-107 crew was completing 16 days of complex work i= n their Spacehab Research Double module and were 16 min. from landing at Ken= nedy when lost. Landing was scheduled for 8:16 a.m. CST.=20 <BR> <BR>Abnormal telemetry events in the reentry began at 7:52 a.m. CST as the v= ehicle was crossing the coast north of San Francisco at 43 mi. alt., about M= ach 20.=20 <BR> <BR>The orbiter at this time was in a 43-deg. right bank completing its init= ial bank maneuver to the south for initial energy dissipation and ranging to= ward the Kennedy runway still nearly 3,000 mi. away.=20 <BR> <BR>That initial bank had been as steep as about 80 deg. between Hawaii and=20= the California coast, a normal flight path angle for the early part of the r= eentry. The abnormal events seen on orbiter telemetry in Houston indicate a=20= slow penetration of reentry heat into the orbiter and damage on the wing, ov= erpowering the flight control system. Key events were:=20 <BR> <BR>* 7:52 a.m. CST: Three left main landing gear brakeline temperatures sho= w an unusual rise. "This was the first occurrence of a significant thermal e= vent in the left wheel well," Dittemore said. Engineers do not believe the l= eft wheel well was breached, but rather that hot gases were somehow finding=20= a flow path within the wing to reach the wheel well.=20 <BR> <BR>* 7:53 a.m. CST: A fourth left brakeline strut temperature measurement r= ose significantly--about 30-40 deg. in 5 min.=20 <BR> <BR>* 7:54 a.m. CST: With the orbiter over eastern California and western Ne= vada, the mid-fuselage mold line where the left wing meets the fuselage show= ed an unusual temperature rise. The 60F rise over 5 min. was not dramatic, b= ut showed that something was heating the wing fuselage interface area at thi= s time. Wing leading edge and belly temperatures were over 2,000F. While the= outside fuselage wall was heating, the inside wall remained cool as normal.= =20 <BR> <BR>* 7:55 a.m. CST: A fifth left main gear temperature sensor showed an unu= sual rise.=20 <BR> <BR>* 7:57 a.m. CST: As Columbia was passing over Arizona and New Mexico, th= e orbiter's upper and lower left wing temperature sensors failed, probably i= ndicating their lines had been cut. The orbiter was also rolling back to the= left into about a 75-deg. left bank angle, again to dissipate energy and fo= r navigation and guidance toward Runway 33 at Kennedy, then about 1,800 mi.=20= away.=20 <BR> <BR>* 7:58 a.m. CST: Still over New Mexico, the elevons began to move to adj= ust orbiter roll axis trim, indicating an increase in drag on the left side=20= of the vehicle. That could be indicative of "rough tile or missing tile but=20= we are not sure," Dittemore said. At the same time, the elevons were reactin= g to increased drag on the left side of the vehicle, the left main landing g= ear tire pressures and wheel temperature measurements failed. This was indic= ative of a loss of the sensor, not the explosion or failure of the left main= gear tires, Dittemore believes. The sensors were lost in a staggered fashio= n.=20 <BR> <BR>* 7:59 a.m. CST: Additional elevon motion is commanded by the flight con= trol system to counteract left side drag. The drag was trying to roll the ve= hicle to the left, while the flight control system was commanding the elevon= s to roll it back to the right.=20 <BR> <BR>But the rate of left roll was beginning to overpower the elevons, so the= control system fired two 870-lb.-thrust right yaw thrusters to help maintai= n the proper flight path angle. The firing lasted 1.5 sec. and, along with t= he tire pressure data and elevon data, would have been noted by the pilots.=20 <BR> <BR>At about this time, the pilots made a short transmission that was clippe= d and essentially unintelligible.=20 <BR> <BR>In Mission Control, astronaut Marine Lt. Col. Charles Hobaugh, the space= craft communicator on reentry flight director Leroy Cain's team, radioed "Co= lumbia, we see your tire pressure [telemetry] messages and we did not copy y= our last transmission."=20 <BR> <BR>One of the pilots then radioed "Roger," but appeared to be cut off in mi= d-transmission by static. For a moment there were additional static and soun= ds similar to an open microphone on Columbia but no transmissions from the c= rew.=20 <BR> <BR>All data from the orbiter then stopped and the position plot display in=20= Mission Control froze over Texas, although an additional 30 sec. of poor dat= a may have been captured.=20 <BR> <BR>Controllers in Mission Control thought they were experiencing an unusual= but non-critical data drop-out. But they had also taken notice of the unusu= al buildup of sensor telemetry in the preceding few minutes.=20 <BR> <BR>About 3 min. after all data flow stopped, Hobaugh in Mission Control beg= an transmitting in the blind to Columbia on the UHF backup radio system. "Co= lumbia, Houston, UHF comm. check" he repeated every 15-30 sec., but to no av= ail. In central Texas, thousands of people at that moment were observing the= orbiter break up at Mach 18.3 and 207,000 ft.=20 <BR> <BR>Milt Heflin, chief of the flight director's office, said he looked at th= e frozen data plots. "I and others stared at that for a long time because th= e tracking ended over Texas. It just stopped. It was then that I reflected b= ack on what I saw [in Mission Control] with Challenger."=20 <BR> <BR>The loss of Challenger occurred 17 years and four days before the loss o= f Columbia.=20 <BR> <BR>"Our landscape has changed," Heflin said. "The space flight business tod= ay is going to be much different than yesterday.=20 <BR> <BR>"It was different after the Apollo fire, it was different after Challeng= er."=20 <BR> <BR>Columbia, the first winged reusable manned spacecraft first launched in=20= April 1981, was lost on her 28th mission on the 113th shuttle flight.=20 <BR> </FONT> </HTML> --part1_5b.35594e55.2b754438_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:32:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Now that you mention it, real limestone isn't what it used to be... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3b.3317c93c.2b7547c9_boundary" --part1_3b.3317c93c.2b7547c9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...either. The limestone on the Harvard Club expansion on West 44th, on the new Manhattan School of Music apartment house near 122nd and Claremont, and on several other projects looks ... boring, when placed next to the real thing (like that on the New York Yacht Club next door on 44th). Like polyester next to linen. Like roquefort next to Kraft. The new stuff does not have the deep grain, and highlights and transparency (?) of the vintage stone. Is this simply a matter of weathering? Or are aliens taking over our limestone quarries? Yrf, Chriftopher --part1_3b.3317c93c.2b7547c9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">...either. The limestone on the Harv= ard Club expansion on West 44th, on the new Manhattan School of Music apartm= ent house near 122nd and Claremont, and on several other projects looks ...=20= boring, when placed next to the real thing (like that on the New York Yacht=20= Club next door on 44th). Like polyester next to linen. Like roqu= efort next to Kraft. The new stuff does not have the deep grain, and highlig= hts and transparency (?) of the vintage stone. Is this simply a matter= of weathering? Or are aliens taking over our limestone quarries? &nbs= p; &n= bsp; Yrf, Chrifto= pher </FONT></HTML> --part1_3b.3317c93c.2b7547c9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:08:58 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters >Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:19:19 EST > >I would like to give a demonstration on how to give a demonstration. > >Nick: Seriously? I brought this up at our recent meeting, the need for a >demonstration on demonstrations. We have a policy of whomever brings up a >need has to take care of their own suggestion. I think I was asked if I >would >volunteer to demonstrate on myself. Besides, I'm now known as the official >"disseminator". Problem is they won't let me change my clothes, though we >will have a mud pit, I think. Officially there will be no drinking of beer >so >I'm not sure why there will be so many beer tents and what all the kegs are >for. Possibly one of my fellow disseminators will be able to clarify the >point back channel. I suggested we hold a Yokel Ono bed-in, "We won't get >out >of bed until all of the developers are hung and the old buildings are >satisfied!" There is always room for two or one more. Let me know if you >are >volunteering. I'd rather spend my time working on a business session, >"Dilbert and the 36 Strategems". ][<en Ken: I was kind of joking but I could see it working. My problem is that I am here and it is tough to come back. When would IPTW be this year? Nick _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:31:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "S. Stokowski" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Penguin Poo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_176.1603a0e2.2b75c60c_boundary" --part1_176.1603a0e2.2b75c60c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Penguins Destroy Antarctic Hut with Their Poo (0) The first building that was ever built by the hands of man in Antarctica, a=20 wooden hut that was built back in 1899, is exposed to penguins=E2=80=99 dest= ructive=20 influence. Piles of their excrement are growing bigger and bigger around the= =20 hut that was erected by little-known Norwegian explorer Borhrevink =E2=80= =93 first=20 man that stepped on Antarctica in 1895.=20 continued at: <A HREF=3D"http://funreports.com/2003/02/05/43038.html">http:/= /funreports.com/2003/02/05/43038.html</A> Be sure to donate your $20 for poo removal! Steve Stokowski Stone Products Consultants Building Products Microscopy 10 Clark St., Ste. A Ashland, Mass. 01721-2145 508-881-6364 (ph. & fax) http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm --part1_176.1603a0e2.2b75c60c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Penguins Destroy Antarctic Hut with Their Poo (0)<BR> <BR> The first building that was ever built by the hands of man in Antarctica, a=20= wooden hut that was built back in 1899, is exposed to penguins=E2=80=99 dest= ructive influence. Piles of their excrement are growing bigger and bigger ar= ound the hut that was erected by little-known Norwegian explorer Borhrevink=20= =E2=80=93 first man that stepped on Antarctica in 1895. <BR> <BR> continued at: <A HREF=3D"http://funreports.com/2003/02/05/43038.html">http:/= /funreports.com/2003/02/05/43038.html</A><BR> <BR> Be sure to donate your $20 for poo removal!<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Steve Stokowski<BR> Stone Products Consultants<BR> Building Products Microscopy<BR> 10 Clark St., Ste. A<BR> Ashland, Mass. 01721-2145</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND= -COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR= > </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">508-881-6364 (ph. &= fax)<BR> http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm</FONT></HTML> --part1_176.1603a0e2.2b75c60c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:48:51 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles, Straw Piles & Dams, and Prince Charles in the Tube In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Please Ralph, Do tell more about Prince Charles' aspirations. I hadn't heard about that. Ruth At 11:23 AM -0500 2/7/03, Ralph Walter wrote: In a message dated 2/7/2003 10:46:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ralph, They paved the creek bed?????? Why? Isn't that illegal??? Did the fish like it that way?? Ruth Well, see, it started out as a creek bed, but was used for a flood control channel. Weren't no fish to speak of that I ever saw in there, although as I remember there may once or twice have been what mah granny would have called "minners," and I definitely remember pollywogs (not them other kinda wogs like Pyrate hangs around with) and millions of frogs one summer (maybe 1958). Weren't no PETM or PETP then, much less an EPA, and nobody'd even dreamed up the notion of an EIS. Plus, Prince Charles didn't come to visit and ask the little buggers if they liked the proposed paving, or tell them he aspired to become a feminine hygiene product. Simpler days, indeed. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 23:42:17 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dirt Piles, Straw Piles & Dams, and Prince Charles in the Tube MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14b.1b77fa01.2b75e4a9_boundary" --part1_14b.1b77fa01.2b75e4a9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/7/2003 9:50:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Please Ralph, Do tell more about Prince Charles' aspirations. I hadn't > heard about that. Ruth > Ruth, You asked for it. Some years back, there were news reports that he had had an overheard cell phone conversation with the charming Mrs. Parker Bowles, during which he expressed the wish that he could be her tampon. Well, you asked for it. Other Pinheads (and assorted Pervheads) will confirm this. Ralph --part1_14b.1b77fa01.2b75e4a9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/7/2003 9:50:15 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Please Ralph, Do tell more abou= t Prince Charles' aspirations. I hadn't<BR> heard about that. Ruth<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Ruth,<BR> <BR> You asked for it. Some years back, there were news reports that he had= had an overheard cell phone conversation with the charming Mrs. Parker Bowl= es, during which he expressed the wish that he could be her tampon.<BR> <BR> Well, you asked for it. Other Pinheads (and assorted Pervheads) will c= onfirm this.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_14b.1b77fa01.2b75e4a9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 09:09:30 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM 2003 SANTA FE NM APRIL 4 THE STONE FOUNDATION, a society of individuals involved with and/or interested in stone, stonework and stone art will present this, the third such gathering of stonework practitioners, advocates and aficionados. As before the objectives are: interesting, knowledgeable presentations, lively discourse and professional camaraderie. This will also be the occasion of the society's first general membership meeting, and the first Board of Directors meeting. There will also be a collaborative stonework project which will showcase the artistic potential of the craft. THEMES: medieval stonemasonry stonework in architecture restoration masonry structural stonework monumental rock art dry stone walling stone in the landscape amerindian masonry stonework of other lands For more information address inquires to Tomas Lipps [log in to unmask] -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:11:11 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Young man, I was all excited till I saw it was in NM, might as well be on the moon. Wish it were closer--like southern VT where we have lots of stone walls. Ruth At 9:09 AM -0800 2/8/03, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM 2003 >SANTA FE NM APRIL 4 > >THE STONE FOUNDATION, a society of individuals involved with and/or >interested in stone, stonework and stone art will present this, the >third such gathering of stonework practitioners, advocates and >aficionados. As before the objectives are: interesting, knowledgeable >presentations, lively discourse and professional camaraderie. > >This will also be the occasion of the society's first general >membership meeting, and the first Board of Directors meeting. There >will also be a collaborative stonework project which will showcase the >artistic potential of the craft. > >THEMES: >medieval stonemasonry >stonework in architecture >restoration masonry >structural stonework >monumental rock art >dry stone walling >stone in the landscape >amerindian masonry >stonework of other lands > >For more information address inquires to Tomas Lipps [log in to unmask] > >-- >To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ><http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 18:47:22 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "vgernet.net" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the OSHA Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0141_01C2CFA2.842A2000" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01C2CFA2.842A2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't miss article about same salt mine in NY Times2/8/03. We were there = at the time of Cargil's takeover. To my recall 4 people died during the = time I worked there. I'll never forget finding the teeth embedded in a = timber at about 1700 ft, must have been from the welder that went down = the hole. OHSA, like any other organization, needs constant revival, or = kicking in the butt to be top notch, but the changes wrought are many = and good over the long haul.=20 Long ago when my wife worked with me on jobs, we were recasting = sections of concrete cornice and other decorative work on the to be = Norwalk Town Hall. There was a building collapse in a nearby town , with = many killed. The next day Jen told me happily that there was a guy = taking pictures of her walking the parapets. 2,000.00 fine.=20 Blame Ken for me being back Creighton ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:53 AM Subject: Progress of the OSHA Ladies One of them songs I knew...and did not know. Guess I was in the = basement at the time. Sadly to say, I was fusing w/ DD's bag 24-7 and by day busting stone = at the pre-OSHA salt mine. Happy to say those days did not last long and = that I did not fall down the vertical shaft -- story is if you did fall = down the shaft they would put what they could find of you in a shoe box. = I, for one, like OSHA. Without it I figure I would be dead. For halfways = decent employers it works towards leveling the field, that safety is not = always an expense over and beyond what the competition will do. As to = hard regulation, fines & inspections, the world is a busy place and = there is a limit to time and energy. ][<en=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01C2CFA2.842A2000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Don't miss article about same salt mine in NY = Times2/8/03. We=20 were there at the time of Cargil's takeover. To my recall 4 people died = during=20 the time I worked there. I'll never forget finding the teeth embedded in = a=20 timber at about 1700 ft, must have been from the welder that went down = the hole.=20 OHSA, like any other organization, needs constant revival, or kicking in = the=20 butt to be top notch, but the changes wrought are many and good over the = long=20 haul. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Long ago when my wife worked with = me on=20 jobs, we were recasting sections of concrete cornice and other = decorative work=20 on the to be Norwalk Town Hall. There was a building collapse in a = nearby town ,=20 with many killed. The next day Jen told me happily that there was a guy = taking=20 pictures of her walking the parapets. 2,000.00 fine. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Blame Ken for me being = back =20 Creighton</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 05, = 2003 9:53=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Progress of the OSHA=20 Ladies</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">One of them songs I knew...and did not = know. Guess I=20 was in the basement at the time.<BR><BR>Sadly to say, I was fusing w/ = DD's bag=20 24-7 and by day busting stone at the pre-OSHA salt mine. Happy to say = those=20 days did not last long and that I did not fall down the vertical shaft = --=20 story is if you did fall down the shaft they would put what they could = find of=20 you in a shoe box. I, for one, like OSHA. Without it I figure I would = be dead.=20 For halfways decent employers it works towards leveling the field, = that safety=20 is not always an expense over and beyond what the competition will do. = As to=20 hard regulation, fines & inspections, the world is a busy place = and there=20 is a limit to time and energy. ][<en</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01C2CFA2.842A2000-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 18:41:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the OSHA Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_17c.169472f8.2b76efc1_boundary" --part1_17c.169472f8.2b76efc1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/8/2003 6:33:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Blame Ken for me being back Creighton Creighton! Great to hear from you! Stick around, will ya? There's lots to be done. Best regards, Ralph --part1_17c.169472f8.2b76efc1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/8/2003 6:33:16 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> Blame Ken for me being back&nb= sp; Creighton</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BAC= KGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Creighton!<BR> <BR> Great to hear from you! Stick around, will ya? There's lots to b= e done.<BR> <BR> Best regards,<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_17c.169472f8.2b76efc1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 20:34:51 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: olgoat <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Tankless Water Heater Source MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2CFB1.87B5E100" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2CFB1.87B5E100 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C2CFB1.87B5E100" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C2CFB1.87B5E100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ralph, head is hung in shame for groooos error. howsomever allyou will ever = want to know... as always,errorly yours, olgoat http://www.controlledenergy.com/ ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C2CFB1.87B5E100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ralph,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>head is hung in shame for groooos=20 error. howsomever allyou will ever want to=20 know... = =20 as always,errorly yours, = olgoat</FONT></DIV><BR> <A=20 href=3D"http://www.controlledenergy.com/">http://www.controlledenergy.com= /</A></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C2CFB1.87B5E100-- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2CFB1.87B5E100 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Tankless Water Heater Source.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Tankless Water Heater Source.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://www.controlledenergy.com/ [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.controlledenergy.com/ Modified=70355519DACFC2017F ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2CFB1.87B5E100-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:53:31 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mary Krugman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heater Source MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_147.a014c67.2b772abb_boundary" --part1_147.a014c67.2b772abb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Olgoat. Great site! Thanks! Julep --part1_147.a014c67.2b772abb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Olgoat.<BR> <BR> Great site! Thanks!<BR> <BR> Julep</FONT></HTML> --part1_147.a014c67.2b772abb_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 23:34:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heater Source MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bf.2de45a25.2b773441_boundary" --part1_bf.2de45a25.2b773441_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/8/2003 8:35:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > ralph, > > head is hung in shame for groooos error. howsomever allyou will ever want > to know... as always,errorly yours, olgoat > Sir (or madam) olgoat, Not to worry. Headhanging not required; am unaware of any grievous error you may have committed, as Mrs. Ralph has been keeping me up to date on my own. Looked at the website you forwarded, and have (independently) subsequently determined that scale (white fecal matter, similar in grain size/color to dishwashing detergent) in my water lines is not limited to hot lines, but also occurs in cold as well. Therefore hot water heater MAY not be on verge of catastrophic explosion/long painful death out as originally anticipated. Then again, maybe yes. Therefore will revert to fallback position: do nothing. Thanks, Ralph --part1_bf.2de45a25.2b773441_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/8/2003 8:35:25 PM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">ralph,</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0= 00000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FAC= E=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">head is hung in shame for gr= oooos error. howsomever allyou will ever want to know... &n= bsp; = as always,errorly yours, olgoat</FONT><= FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Sir (or madam) olgoat,<BR> <BR> Not to worry. Headhanging not required; am unaware of any grievous err= or you may have committed, as Mrs. Ralph has been keeping me up to date on m= y own.<BR> <BR> Looked at the website you forwarded, and have (independently) subsequently d= etermined that scale (white fecal matter, similar in grain size/color =20= to dishwashing detergent) in my water lines is not limited to hot lines, but= also occurs in cold as well. Therefore hot water heater MAY not be on= verge of catastrophic explosion/long painful death out as originally antici= pated. <BR> <BR> Then again, maybe yes.<BR> <BR> Therefore will revert to fallback position: do nothing.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_bf.2de45a25.2b773441_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 03:22:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Two Flags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been "away" with no lap top.see you next week Pyrate Two Flags The light was an old light; golden in tinsel chandeliers up above harbor Hotel reception room with red carpets washed thin and stained with a generation of Budwiser and a millennium of hot Southern nights. A dirty mirrored Loretta Young stairway tumbles into the room suggesting that once soriety queens in buffonts danced to Elvis and Gladys Knight" here. Now the same colored waiters in white service coats hustle drinks to old retired warriors;ribboned and corpulent perhaps wishing they could hear the Soul music of happier times once more as they make small talk with hawk nosed accountants and car salesmen with buckled cell phones who snap their gum and grin widely. .Like dusky shadows the waiters move among the crowd with iced burbons on silver trays their tight collars making beads of sweat at their foreheads A bevy of ill kept red necks; and good ol boys lounged guard at the door; Their Sunday clothes and bad haircutsd are out of date ; With surly stares and white socks they keep all but the initiated and invited at bay like curs over a food bowl. I took a long tug on my bourbon and waited ; my boys were not with me . I knew nobody in this room except one vague acquaintance and he wasn't showing; well not yet anyway. Suddenly;there was a call to attention; and old and young rose about a hundred in alll. The standard bearers brought in two falgs.in ceremony and stood to face the room . First; the American flag and the pledge of allegiance; with hand over heart was recited with reverend cadence like the fervent allegiance of former and would be patriots. Then as if I was in a a Leni Risenstall (sp) movie ; in quick succession Next followed the furl of the Confederate flag .....and a spell bound pledge... to the honor of the Confederacy with equal patriotism.. ..This is riveting performance is hauntingly demonstrated with outstretched arm rigid with the palm lifted open.... to heaven. . It was moving, powerful; and scary all at once. I can see how small egos can get caught up and feel empowered by such ceremony. Blood oaths of fealty;and supposed inner knowledge of sacred inheritance of country and divine right by race can rule mens hearts just as much now as it did in Attila the Huns day. All I need now is for the lights to go off and the sheets parade in with their torches and Im outta here . It wasn't so ; but the drama continued After the pledges; the flags were retired next to the Baptist Christian flag;(which is the Protestant flag ) This gets me nervous ; but to many its as natural as apple pie. I was then half expecting a militant recital of the Nicene creed; but pleasantly that didn't happen either This is it; I am in the holly of hollies. The meeting of the sons of the Confederacy in a creaking old Hotel out of the Southern 60's. I took another long tug on my fresh bourbon and reflected on how in the heck did I get here . Ive been working graves and have uncovered a few corpses; one with a doubloon in its mouth another wearing a chasity belt. Last week I uncovered a rib cage; thigh bone and a ten Franc piece of the French revolution.The coin now graces my neck as a lucky charm but tonight Im not so sure. The graves I was working lie near Confederate rest . Long white rows of marble slab in the hundreds just outside Mobile. It was on the birthday of Robert E. Lee. and ran into another stone mason who works the confederate (and union) graves. A great big ; shirt off your back ;good ol boy stonemason with a thick drawl, who loves to hunt an fish ; cut stone and talk story "bout da wa" and by the way could I come over and meet their group Mon /night. I said yes as I was listening to him recite the exploits of the 5 generals of the confederacy who are buried here. Now for those of us who grew up with pictures of Lee and Washington on the school room wall instead of Linclon Robert E Lee Day is now celebrated as Dr.Martin Luther King day ; King whose real birthday is anther month;is by no means an "accident" ; by being put into Lees birthday thus making it ... a "federal holiday" This political gerrymander is like letting the Protestants of Northern Ireland march the Orange in catholic neighborhoods. It does nothing to help "race " in this country Another screw up to pit one group aginst anoter To the Sons ; whose kin lie in neat white rows by the hundreds; and most never owned slaves ; bristle of any affront to their gallant memory or to their flag..The stars and bars . I hate these food fights ; In the end diversity will win ; but I try and stay clear of them as nobody is alive from these days to defend themselves. But there is power in Death; just ask the groups who want reparations for slavery; or go to Culloden in Morray Scotland where the Scots lie in Clan mounds by the hundreds under their own flag;; their children came to the American Antebellum South ..as for me ; keep the bloody flag ; I like the history Meanwhile; back at ground zero I was munching on some stale M&M's from a paper doily and finding courage in the bourbon when suddenly I was introduced to the Sons ; as " a friend of ours" ( Haven't I heard that before...God father?) My stonemason friend welcomed me to the dias where I momentarily nervously stared at the crowd trying to find words before someone in the crowd could throw a rope over a beam . Fearing the worst; I then gave a historical narrative how the southern side of my family fought and died at Gettysburg and Vicksburg and that I was also directly related to General Mcellan; the General of the Union Army before Grant and a political opponent of Linclon. I shared some personal family stories from that period, whether they were true or not I don't know but the crwod ate it up; and afterwards away from the dias admist back slapping and cigars I was asked to the "pig roast" and turkey shoot out at our "camp" to which I politely deferred to my schedule; and Groucho's famous quote: That I never joined clubs that would have me for a member. Pyrate Ps The sons have about 40,000 members here (and abroad) Michael from a stonemasons journal -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 06:32:38 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Leland Torrence <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Two Flags In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Well Mr. Michael, always a pleasure to ride the rails with you. "reflected on how in the heck did I get here "; it was meant to be, and you know it! Looking forward to your next visit to the Elm City. I can show you my Great-Grandfather's Union pistol and uniform and another Great-Grandfather's Confederate Uniform and swords! Thank heaven for the mutt. Best, Leland -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 3:22 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Two Flags I have been "away" with no lap top.see you next week Pyrate Two Flags The light was an old light; golden in tinsel chandeliers up above harbor Hotel reception room with red carpets washed thin and stained with a generation of Budwiser and a millennium of hot Southern nights. A dirty mirrored Loretta Young stairway tumbles into the room suggesting that once soriety queens in buffonts danced to Elvis and Gladys Knight" here. Now the same colored waiters in white service coats hustle drinks to old retired warriors;ribboned and corpulent perhaps wishing they could hear the Soul music of happier times once more as they make small talk with hawk nosed accountants and car salesmen with buckled cell phones who snap their gum and grin widely. .Like dusky shadows the waiters move among the crowd with iced burbons on silver trays their tight collars making beads of sweat at their foreheads A bevy of ill kept red necks; and good ol boys lounged guard at the door; Their Sunday clothes and bad haircutsd are out of date ; With surly stares and white socks they keep all but the initiated and invited at bay like curs over a food bowl. I took a long tug on my bourbon and waited ; my boys were not with me . I knew nobody in this room except one vague acquaintance and he wasn't showing; well not yet anyway. Suddenly;there was a call to attention; and old and young rose about a hundred in alll. The standard bearers brought in two falgs.in ceremony and stood to face the room . First; the American flag and the pledge of allegiance; with hand over heart was recited with reverend cadence like the fervent allegiance of former and would be patriots. Then as if I was in a a Leni Risenstall (sp) movie ; in quick succession Next followed the furl of the Confederate flag .....and a spell bound pledge... to the honor of the Confederacy with equal patriotism.. ..This is riveting performance is hauntingly demonstrated with outstretched arm rigid with the palm lifted open.... to heaven. . It was moving, powerful; and scary all at once. I can see how small egos can get caught up and feel empowered by such ceremony. Blood oaths of fealty;and supposed inner knowledge of sacred inheritance of country and divine right by race can rule mens hearts just as much now as it did in Attila the Huns day. All I need now is for the lights to go off and the sheets parade in with their torches and Im outta here . It wasn't so ; but the drama continued After the pledges; the flags were retired next to the Baptist Christian flag;(which is the Protestant flag ) This gets me nervous ; but to many its as natural as apple pie. I was then half expecting a militant recital of the Nicene creed; but pleasantly that didn't happen either This is it; I am in the holly of hollies. The meeting of the sons of the Confederacy in a creaking old Hotel out of the Southern 60's. I took another long tug on my fresh bourbon and reflected on how in the heck did I get here . Ive been working graves and have uncovered a few corpses; one with a doubloon in its mouth another wearing a chasity belt. Last week I uncovered a rib cage; thigh bone and a ten Franc piece of the French revolution.The coin now graces my neck as a lucky charm but tonight Im not so sure. The graves I was working lie near Confederate rest . Long white rows of marble slab in the hundreds just outside Mobile. It was on the birthday of Robert E. Lee. and ran into another stone mason who works the confederate (and union) graves. A great big ; shirt off your back ;good ol boy stonemason with a thick drawl, who loves to hunt an fish ; cut stone and talk story "bout da wa" and by the way could I come over and meet their group Mon /night. I said yes as I was listening to him recite the exploits of the 5 generals of the confederacy who are buried here. Now for those of us who grew up with pictures of Lee and Washington on the school room wall instead of Linclon Robert E Lee Day is now celebrated as Dr.Martin Luther King day ; King whose real birthday is anther month;is by no means an "accident" ; by being put into Lees birthday thus making it ... a "federal holiday" This political gerrymander is like letting the Protestants of Northern Ireland march the Orange in catholic neighborhoods. It does nothing to help "race " in this country Another screw up to pit one group aginst anoter To the Sons ; whose kin lie in neat white rows by the hundreds; and most never owned slaves ; bristle of any affront to their gallant memory or to their flag..The stars and bars . I hate these food fights ; In the end diversity will win ; but I try and stay clear of them as nobody is alive from these days to defend themselves. But there is power in Death; just ask the groups who want reparations for slavery; or go to Culloden in Morray Scotland where the Scots lie in Clan mounds by the hundreds under their own flag;; their children came to the American Antebellum South ..as for me ; keep the bloody flag ; I like the history Meanwhile; back at ground zero I was munching on some stale M&M's from a paper doily and finding courage in the bourbon when suddenly I was introduced to the Sons ; as " a friend of ours" ( Haven't I heard that before...God father?) My stonemason friend welcomed me to the dias where I momentarily nervously stared at the crowd trying to find words before someone in the crowd could throw a rope over a beam . Fearing the worst; I then gave a historical narrative how the southern side of my family fought and died at Gettysburg and Vicksburg and that I was also directly related to General Mcellan; the General of the Union Army before Grant and a political opponent of Linclon. I shared some personal family stories from that period, whether they were true or not I don't know but the crwod ate it up; and afterwards away from the dias admist back slapping and cigars I was asked to the "pig roast" and turkey shoot out at our "camp" to which I politely deferred to my schedule; and Groucho's famous quote: That I never joined clubs that would have me for a member. Pyrate Ps The sons have about 40,000 members here (and abroad) Michael from a stonemasons journal -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:39:22 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the OSHA Ladies In-Reply-To: <014401c2cfcc$6e60a260$bec2f63f@pavilion> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Creighton, Don't believe we've met. I'm Ruth, the Vermont farmer who stumbled in here just to entertain the troops with my stupid questions. Glad to meecha. At 6:47 PM -0500 2/8/03, vgernet.net wrote: Don't miss article about same salt mine in NY Times2/8/03. We were there at the time of Cargil's takeover. To my recall 4 people died during the time I worked there. I'll never forget finding the teeth embedded in a timber at about 1700 ft, must have been from the welder that went down the hole. OHSA, like any other organization, needs constant revival, or kicking in the butt to be top notch, but the changes wrought are many and good over the long haul. Long ago when my wife worked with me on jobs, we were recasting sections of concrete cornice and other decorative work on the to be Norwalk Town Hall. There was a building collapse in a nearby town , with many killed. The next day Jen told me happily that there was a guy taking pictures of her walking the parapets. 2,000.00 fine. Blame Ken for me being back Creighton -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:12:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Two Flags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_84.98ace24.2b77c9c9_boundary" --part1_84.98ace24.2b77c9c9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mr. Pyrate, suh! Ah have just finished a recent book on the late Mr. Lincoln, which claims that he is (and in his yout', the Whigs and their successor firm, the Republicans are) the cause of today's overly-centralized Federal govt. Evidently the author is some sort of states-rights guy, which the author claims was the original intent of all the foundling fathers and every other good person in the world. Hamilton was the one who originally came up with the notion of having the Feds run everything, and this was picked up by the Whigs and Reps under the guise of The American Plan, which was also concocted to promote "internal improvements" which built canals and railroads (for the North of course, at the South's expense). According to this author, the "internal improvements" were all a scam to give subsidies to various corporations which would keep the Whigs and Reps in power. Also, nobody (north or south) gave a damn about the slaves, except the North didn't want ex-slaves anywhere nearby, and part of the fight over extension of slavery into the West was an attempt by Whites to keep blacks out altogether, slave or free. Anyway, it was very interesting, but I still haven't figured out what the author's axe-to-grind was, although he does seem to feel there was something not-quite- right about slavery, and why didn't Lincoln do a buyout of slaveowners and then send the freed slaves to Africa or Haiti or Costa Rica/Honduras (which appears to have been Father Abraham's idea of what to do with them). Prior to reading this slim volume, another idea had germinated in my head: That the Confederates were (and their pro-Confederate heirs, assigns and ideological followers and perpetuators are) in fact traitors to the United States. So why, o wise one, is this not the case? With greetings from nearly-seceded Noo Joisey, Ralph PS-- The author also claimed that there was a move my several Northern states to secede, I believe about the time of the War of 1812, and nobody ever complained about that. --part1_84.98ace24.2b77c9c9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Mr. Pyrate, suh!<BR> <BR> Ah have just finished a recent book on the late Mr. Lincoln, which claims th= at he is (and in his yout', the Whigs and their successor firm, the Republic= ans are) the cause of today's overly-centralized Federal govt. E= vidently the author is some sort of states-rights guy, which the author clai= ms was the original intent of all the foundling fathers and every other good= person in the world. Hamilton was the one who originally came up with= the notion of having the Feds run everything, and this was picked up by the= Whigs and Reps under the guise of The American Plan, which was also concoct= ed to promote "internal improvements" which built canals and railroads (for=20= the North of course, at the South's expense). According to this author= , the "internal improvements" were all a scam to give subsidies to various c= orporations which would keep the Whigs and Reps in power. Also, nobody= (north or south) gave a damn about the slaves, except the North didn't want= ex-slaves anywhere nearby, and part of the fight over extension of slavery=20= into the West was an attempt by Whites to keep blacks out altogether, slave=20= or free.<BR> Anyway, it was very interesting, but I still haven't figured out what the au= thor's axe-to-grind was, although he does seem to feel there was something n= ot-quite- right about slavery, and why didn't Lincoln do a buyout of slaveow= ners and then send the freed slaves to Africa or Haiti or Costa Rica/Hondura= s (which appears to have been Father Abraham's idea of what to do with them)= .<BR> <BR> Prior to reading this slim volume, another idea had germinated in my head:&n= bsp; That the Confederates were (and their pro-Confederate heirs, assigns an= d ideological followers and perpetuators are) in fact traitors to the United= States. So why, o wise one, is this not the case?<BR> <BR> With greetings from nearly-seceded Noo Joisey,<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> PS-- The author also claimed that there was a move my several Northern state= s to secede, I believe about the time of the War of 1812, and nobody ever co= mplained about that.</FONT></HTML> --part1_84.98ace24.2b77c9c9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:21:02 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Two Flags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_78.37d3a58d.2b77d9ee_boundary" --part1_78.37d3a58d.2b77d9ee_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/9/2003 10:13:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > PS-- The author also claimed that there was a move my several Northern > states to secede, I believe about the time of the War of 1812, and nobody > ever complained about that. If I'm not mistaken Vermont was one of them. Steve --part1_78.37d3a58d.2b77d9ee_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/9/2003 10:13:20 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">PS-- The author also claimed that there was a move my sever= al Northern states to secede, I believe about the time of the War of 1812, a= nd nobody ever complained about that.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style= =3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial"=20= LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> If I'm not mistaken Vermont was one of them.<BR> <BR> Steve </FONT></HTML> --part1_78.37d3a58d.2b77d9ee_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:00:47 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Two Flags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_155.1b83a626.2b77e33f_boundary" --part1_155.1b83a626.2b77e33f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/9/2003 11:21:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > If I'm not mistaken Vermont was one of them. > Steve, I believe you are correct, or at least that your information agrees with this "Real Lincoln" author's. I think he also claimed that Mass refused to supply militia to the War of 1812, and that CT gave serious consideration to secession at the same time. The thing I couldn't figure out is what was the "real, nefarious" purpose of these "internal impreovements" that the Northerners were so big on, and the South so opposed to. Why wouldn't everybody have gotten canals, and railroads and roads and courthouses and various porkbarrel projects? It also sounded as if the 3/5 rule (where a slave counted as 3/5 of a person (presumably for census and congressional seat purposes, but couldn't vote) should have favored the South. Ralph --part1_155.1b83a626.2b77e33f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/9/2003 11:21:35 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">If I'm not mistaken Vermont was one of them.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Steve,<BR> I believe you are correct, or at least that your information agrees with thi= s "Real Lincoln" author's. I think he also claimed that Mass refused t= o supply militia to the War of 1812, and that CT gave serious consideration=20= to secession at the same time.<BR> <BR> The thing I couldn't figure out is what was the "real, nefarious" purpose of= these "internal impreovements" that the Northerners were so big on, a= nd the South so opposed to. Why wouldn't <U>everybody</U> have gotten=20= canals, and railroads and roads and courthouses and various porkbarrel proje= cts?<BR> <BR> It also sounded as if the 3/5 rule (where a slave counted as 3/5 of a person= (presumably for census and congressional seat purposes, but couldn't vote)=20= should have <U>favored</U> the South. <BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_155.1b83a626.2b77e33f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 16:10:09 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Two Flags In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Steve, We didn't join up till late, 4 March 1791, but I don't think we wanted to secede after that. There were some problems between NY and NH, both wanting to claim VT lands, that had to be cleared up by congress before we could join the US. Before that we were an independent country and sometimes I wish we still were. Then Dean would have been president already and he wouldn't have to run now. Ruth At 11:21 AM -0500 2/9/03, [log in to unmask] wrote: In a message dated 2/9/2003 10:13:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: PS-- The author also claimed that there was a move my several Northern states to secede, I believe about the time of the War of 1812, and nobody ever complained about that. If I'm not mistaken Vermont was one of them. Steve -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:35:23 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Two Flags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a9.38b1796e.2b7869eb_boundary" --part1_a9.38b1796e.2b7869eb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/9/03 3:22:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > a Leni Risenstall (sp) movie "A man's got to know his limitations." --part1_a9.38b1796e.2b7869eb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/9/03 3:22:55 AM Eastern Sta= ndard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">a Leni Risenstall (sp) movie&nb= sp; </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> "A man's got to know his limitations." </FONT></HTML> --part1_a9.38b1796e.2b7869eb_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:50:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The North Shall Rise Again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_144.a1a78f4.2b786d88_boundary" --part1_144.a1a78f4.2b786d88_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ruth, This alleged individual (one Thos. DiLorenzo, a great Southern name, who is a prof at Loyola U in MD) claims that the Northern secession movement was started by Federalists in reponse to Jefferson's LA Purchase in 1803, which the Yankees somehow thought benefited VA at their expense. Jefferson then embargoed foreign trade in 1807, which screwed the Yankee merchants again, and during the War of 1812, the Yankee merchants got it in the neck again from Madison. If this is true, kinda makes ya wonder whether there wasn't an element of payback in the despoliation of the South for this early-century stuff, as well as for starting the Civil War. Of course, Lincoln who tricked the South into attacking Fort McHenry by insisting on reprovisioning it, rather than letting it be starved out, which of course would have been just fine. Ralph --part1_144.a1a78f4.2b786d88_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Ruth,<BR> <BR> This alleged individual (one Thos. DiLorenzo, a great Southern name, who is=20= a prof at Loyola U in MD) claims that the Northern secession movement was st= arted by Federalists in reponse to Jefferson's LA Purchase in 1803, which th= e Yankees somehow thought benefited VA at their expense. Jefferson then emba= rgoed foreign trade in 1807, which screwed the Yankee merchants again,= and during the War of 1812, the Yankee merchants got it in the neck again f= rom Madison. <BR> <BR> If this is true, kinda makes ya wonder whether there wasn't an element of pa= yback in the despoliation of the South for this early-century stuff, as well= as for starting the Civil War. Of course, Lincoln who tricked the Sou= th into attacking Fort McHenry by insisting on reprovisioning it, rather tha= n letting it be starved out, which of course would have been just fine.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_144.a1a78f4.2b786d88_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:20:14 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "S. Stokowski" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The North Shall Rise Again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_168.1a732d07.2b79010e_boundary" --part1_168.1a732d07.2b79010e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/9/03 9:59:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Of course, Lincoln who tricked the South into attacking Fort McHenry Ralph: WOW, this is sure revisionist. Steve Stokowski --part1_168.1a732d07.2b79010e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/9/03 9:59:35 PM Eastern S= tandard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Of course, Lincoln who tricked the South into attacking For= t McHenry</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-CO= LOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ralph:<BR> <BR> WOW, this is sure revisionist. <BR> <BR> Steve Stokowski</FONT></HTML> --part1_168.1a732d07.2b79010e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:24:19 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Sorry, I could not resist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following email was received this morning. THE MAN IN THE BALLOON A man in a hot air balloon realized he was lost. He reduced altitude and spotted a man below. He descended a bit more and shouted "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am." "The man below replied, "You're in a hot air balloon hovering approximately 30 feet above the ground. You're between 40 and 41 degrees north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude". "You must be a Contractor", said the balloonist. "I am," replied the man. "How did you know?" "Well", answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct, but I've no idea what to make of your information the fact is I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help at all. If anything, you've delayed my trip" The man below responded, "You must be an Architect" "I am", replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?" "Well", said the man, "you don't know where you are or where you're going. You have risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise, which you've no idea how to keep, and you expect people beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you are in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault." -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:37:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Sorry, I could not resist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_189.15b3547c.2b790527_boundary" --part1_189.15b3547c.2b790527_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I heard this one as a Republican and a Democrat. Ralph --part1_189.15b3547c.2b790527_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I heard this one as a Republican and a Democrat.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_189.15b3547c.2b790527_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:43:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The North Shall Rise Again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_24.36da36b5.2b790695_boundary" --part1_24.36da36b5.2b790695_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/2003 8:20:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >> Of course, Lincoln who tricked the South into attacking Fort McHenry > Ralph: > WOW, this is sure revisionist. > Steve, So why did the cool-headed, rational Southerners fall for it? Ralph --part1_24.36da36b5.2b790695_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/10/2003 8:20:47 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style= =3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PAD= DING-LEFT: 5px">Of course, Lincoln who tricked the South into attacking Fort= McHenry</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COL= OR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Ralph:<BR> WOW, this is sure revisionist. <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Steve,</FONT><F= ONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">So why did the cool-headed,=20= rational Southerners fall for it? <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_24.36da36b5.2b790695_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:44:17 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_amkpGIxSIhfMO5gVoHOTGA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_amkpGIxSIhfMO5gVoHOTGA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ruth - Think of it this way. NM is a good place to show what can happen to stone after many years of erosion - especially if it's sandstone. - Pam who lives in a stone house. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruth Barton To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: Re: STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM Young man, I was all excited till I saw it was in NM, might as well be on the moon. Wish it were closer--like southern VT where we have lots of stone walls. Ruth At 9:09 AM -0800 2/8/03, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM 2003 >SANTA FE NM APRIL 4 > >THE STONE FOUNDATION, a society of individuals involved with and/or >interested in stone, stonework and stone art will present this, the >third such gathering of stonework practitioners, advocates and >aficionados. As before the objectives are: interesting, knowledgeable >presentations, lively discourse and professional camaraderie. > >This will also be the occasion of the society's first general >membership meeting, and the first Board of Directors meeting. There >will also be a collaborative stonework project which will showcase the >artistic potential of the craft. > >THEMES: >medieval stonemasonry >stonework in architecture >restoration masonry >structural stonework >monumental rock art >dry stone walling >stone in the landscape >amerindian masonry >stonework of other lands > >For more information address inquires to Tomas Lipps [log in to unmask] > >-- >To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ><http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> --Boundary_(ID_amkpGIxSIhfMO5gVoHOTGA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Ruth -</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Think of it this way. NM is a good place to show what can happen to stone after many years of erosion - especially if it's sandstone.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam who lives in a stone house.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ruth Barton</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 08, 2003 1:11 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Young man, I was all excited till I saw it was in NM, might as well be on<BR>the moon. Wish it were closer--like southern VT where we have lots of<BR>stone walls. Ruth<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>At 9:09 AM -0800 2/8/03, Gabriel Orgrease wrote:<BR>>STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM 2003<BR>>SANTA FE NM APRIL 4<BR>><BR>>THE STONE FOUNDATION, a society of individuals involved with and/or<BR>>interested in stone, stonework and stone art will present this, the<BR>>third such gathering of stonework practitioners, advocates and<BR>>aficionados. As before the objectives are: interesting, knowledgeable<BR>>presentations, lively discourse and professional camaraderie.<BR>><BR>>This will also be the occasion of the society's first general<BR>>membership meeting, and the first Board of Directors meeting. There<BR>>will also be a collaborative stonework project which will showcase the<BR>>artistic potential of the craft.<BR>><BR>>THEMES:<BR>>medieval stonemasonry<BR>>stonework in architecture<BR>>restoration masonry<BR>>structural stonework<BR>>monumental rock art<BR>>dry stone walling<BR>>stone in the landscape<BR>>amerindian masonry<BR>>stonework of other lands<BR>><BR>>For more information address inquires to Tomas Lipps <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A><BR>><BR>>--<BR>>To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the<BR>>uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:<BR>><<A href="http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html">http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html</A>><BR><BR>--<BR>Ruth Barton<BR><A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A><BR>Westminster, VT<BR><BR>--<BR>To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the<BR>uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:<BR><<A href="http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html">http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html</A>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_amkpGIxSIhfMO5gVoHOTGA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:04:07 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Chris Tavener <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Copper skylights I would like to find metalworkers in the Northwest (the project is in Olympia, WA) who would be interested and skilled in rebuilding/restoring several large copper hipped skylights on a landmark building, with detailing typical of the early C20. Any recommendations? -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:24:31 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: mitch wilds <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The North Shall Rise Again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did we? I never knew Baltimore came under attack during the War. Sign me, McSumter Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/10/2003 8:20:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > >> > Of course, Lincoln who tricked the South into attacking Fort >> > McHenry >> >> >> Ralph: >> WOW, this is sure revisionist. > > Steve, > So why did the cool-headed, rational Southerners fall for it? > Ralph -- F. Mitchener Wilds, Senior Restoration Specialist Restoration Branch State Historic Preservation Office 919/733-6547 http://www.hpo.dcr.state.nc.us ***My opinions may not be those of my agency.*** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail to and from me, in connection with the transaction of public business, is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:34:12 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pam, We have some sandstone here too. Not in the immediate area but up north in Burlington area there is quite a bit of "redstone," it is very red--don't ask me why. There is so much of it UVM built one whole part of their campus out of it. Also some to the south of us at Greenfield, MA and in Windsor, CT area. We went to the Bradley airport Sat and all the roadsand down there is red. Our oldest son is in Albuquerque, NM as I write. Hubby's sister and family live out there so he wanted to go to see about work prospects. Some members of my family like to travel, just not me. Ruth At 8:44 AM -0500 2/10/03, Pam Stevenson wrote: Ruth - Think of it this way. NM is a good place to show what can happen to stone after many years of erosion - especially if it's sandstone. - Pam who lives in a stone house. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>Ruth Barton To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: Re: STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM Young man, I was all excited till I saw it was in NM, might as well be on the moon. Wish it were closer--like southern VT where we have lots of stone walls. Ruth -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:26:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The North Shall Rise Again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c1.4ce1812.2b792ca1_boundary" --part1_1c1.4ce1812.2b792ca1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alright, I erred. Are you happy? It was Fort Sumter, not Fort McHenry, where the Recent Unpleasantness began. Big deal. The Yankees still pounded the fecal matter out of you jerks, didn't they? Ralph The Temperate --part1_1c1.4ce1812.2b792ca1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Alright, I erred. Are you happy?<BR> <BR> It was Fort Sumter, not Fort McHenry, where the Recent Unpleasantness began.= <BR> <BR> Big deal. The Yankees still pounded the fecal matter out of you jerks,= didn't they?<BR> <BR> Ralph The Temperate</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c1.4ce1812.2b792ca1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:29:37 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d7.2372965.2b792d71_boundary" --part1_1d7.2372965.2b792d71_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/2003 11:26:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Some > members of my family like to travel, just not me. Ruth, We knew you were the smart one. But we'd still like to see you. Ralph --part1_1d7.2372965.2b792d71_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/10/2003 11:26:13 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Some<BR> members of my family like to travel, just not me. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ruth,<BR> <BR> We knew you were the smart one. But we'd still like to see you.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1d7.2372965.2b792d71_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:50:15 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: new nonsequiter thread MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------61209DEEEEC2DE255756C9D7" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------61209DEEEEC2DE255756C9D7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have opinions in re dog training books/videos- Last dog I had was a cattle dog who preferred lizards and prairie dogs to kibble.. However the kids are calling my bluff- Dylan is out of diapers.... & we promised a dog after that occurred... DD --------------61209DEEEEC2DE255756C9D7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------61209DEEEEC2DE255756C9D7-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:01:41 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Lawrence Kestenbaum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: A little ink In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII An article in the New York Times mentioned me (and my Nigerian Fraud Email collection) today: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/10/technology/10SPAM.html Larry -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:06:46 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Lawrence Kestenbaum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Sorry, I could not resist In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Ralph Walter wrote: > I heard this one as a Republican and a Democrat. I first heard this one (without any latitudes and longitudes) as being about Microsoft. The business about being technically true without being the least bit healpful resonates with anyone who has ever tried to use Microsoft documentation. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, [log in to unmask] The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:24:21 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a9.38c0844c.2b793a45_boundary" --part1_a9.38c0844c.2b793a45_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do you think he got his nick name? Too bad you guys don't know my undercover family nick name... ][<en --part1_a9.38c0844c.2b793a45_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">How do you think he got his n= ick name? </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Too bad you guys don't know my undercover family nick name...<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_a9.38c0844c.2b793a45_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:26:25 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Burning Man, Redux... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12b.226e7b74.2b793ac1_boundary" --part1_12b.226e7b74.2b793ac1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit He was unceremoniously escorted out the door by the ear. Ruth: How terrible! Was the ear in a shoe box? ][<en --part1_12b.226e7b74.2b793ac1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">He was unceremoniously escorted out the door by the ea= r. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ruth: How terrible! Was the ear in a shoe box? ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_12b.226e7b74.2b793ac1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:31:56 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I believe this is the high type of discourse BP should aim for... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_148.a10e86d.2b793c0c_boundary" --part1_148.a10e86d.2b793c0c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you all start using that high falutin' sort of talk on here this ol' country gal is outta here. Ruth: Never fear... we would all have to go to school another 20 years before we start talking like that. ][<en --part1_148.a10e86d.2b793c0c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">If you all start using that high falutin' sort of talk= on here this ol'<BR> country gal is outta here. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ruth: Never fear... we would all have to go to school another 20 years befor= e we start talking like that. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_148.a10e86d.2b793c0c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:37:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Now that you mention it, real limestone isn't what it used to be... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_63.1822348d.2b793d6f_boundary" --part1_63.1822348d.2b793d6f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this simply a matter of weathering? Or are aliens taking over our limestone quarries? Sharpshooter: Probably weathering, which could also have probably been more closely matched with a bit more process and care. As it is, time works wonders. I've not heard any rumors of ET's & the Indiana quarries... please confirm your sources of information. ][<en --part1_63.1822348d.2b793d6f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> Is this simply a matter of weathering? Or= are aliens taking over our limestone quarries?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT CO= LOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSS= ERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Sharpshooter: Probably weath= ering, which could also have probably been more closely matched with a bit m= ore process and care. As it is, time works wonders. I've not heard any rumor= s of ET's & the Indiana quarries... please confirm your sources of infor= mation. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_63.1822348d.2b793d6f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:40:59 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: IPTW 2003 Call for Demonstrators and Presenters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11a.1e4b0803.2b793e2b_boundary" --part1_11a.1e4b0803.2b793e2b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When would IPTW be this year? October 9-11, 2003 at Howard COunty, MD, not too far from the Baltimore-Washington airport. www.ptn.org --part1_11a.1e4b0803.2b793e2b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">When would IPTW be this year?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> October 9-11, 2003 at Howard COunty, MD, not too far from the Baltimore-Wash= ington airport. www.ptn.org</FONT></HTML> --part1_11a.1e4b0803.2b793e2b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:46:44 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7c.3566f786.2b793f84_boundary" --part1_7c.3566f786.2b793f84_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Therefore hot water heater MAY not be on verge of catastrophic explosion/long painful death out as originally anticipated. Nick: I remain confused over the little white specs in the drain. Could you please provide us with a symbolic interpretation of Ralph connecting death with his water heater and dreaming of Mr. M. Stecklow aka the grim reaper? Thanks, ][<en --part1_7c.3566f786.2b793f84_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Therefore hot water heater MAY not be on verge of cata= strophic explosion/long painful death out as originally anticipated. </BLOCK= QUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SI= ZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Nick: I remain confused over the little white specs in the drain. Could you=20= please provide us with a symbolic interpretation of Ralph connecting death w= ith his water heater and dreaming of Mr. M. Stecklow aka the grim reaper? Th= anks, ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_7c.3566f786.2b793f84_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:57:22 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A little ink MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_72.2a0855a3.2b794202_boundary" --part1_72.2a0855a3.2b794202_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An article in the New York Times mentioned me Yes! --part1_72.2a0855a3.2b794202_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">An article in the New York Times mentioned me</BLOCKQU= OTE><BR> <BR> Yes!</FONT></HTML> --part1_72.2a0855a3.2b794202_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:02:42 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_90.3237a38b.2b794342_boundary" --part1_90.3237a38b.2b794342_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/2003 12:47:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Therefore hot water heater MAY not be on verge of catastrophic > explosion/long painful death out as originally anticipated. > > > > Nick: I remain confused over the little white specs in the drain. Could you > please provide us with a symbolic interpretation of Ralph connecting death > with his water heater and dreaming of Mr. M. Stecklow aka the grim reaper? > Thanks, ][<en > Ken, Catastrophic explosion/long painful death was concern for water heater, not my corporeal self. At least, for now. Little white specs were in faucet strainers, not in drains; most probable explanation (currently) is scale, but from where, as this fecal matter appeared in hot AND cold lines. As for connection of M. Stecklow to G. Reaper, I had seen him (and his fraternal units and other associates) more along the line of Old Scratch, and thus less omnipotent than G. Reaper. Ralph --part1_90.3237a38b.2b794342_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/10/2003 12:47:34 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Therefore hot water heater MAY=20= not be on verge of catastrophic explosion/long painful death out as original= ly anticipated. <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Nick: I remain confused over the little white specs in the drain. Could you=20= please provide us with a symbolic interpretation of Ralph connecting death w= ith his water heater and dreaming of Mr. M. Stecklow aka the grim reaper? Th= anks, ][<en<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Ken,<BR> <BR> Catastrophic explosion/long painful death was concern for water heater, not=20= my corporeal self. At least, for now. <BR> <BR> Little white specs were in faucet strainers, not in drains; most probable ex= planation (currently) is scale, but from where, as this fecal matter appeare= d in hot AND cold lines.<BR> <BR> As for connection of M. Stecklow to G. Reaper, I had seen him (and his frate= rnal units and other associates) more along the line of Old Scratch, and thu= s less omnipotent than G. Reaper.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_90.3237a38b.2b794342_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:41:24 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the OSHA Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_84.9a62e3e.2b794c54_boundary" --part1_84.9a62e3e.2b794c54_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Blame Ken for me being back Creighton CTB: A worthy occurence to be blamed for. Stay & prosper. ][<en --part1_84.9a62e3e.2b794c54_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Blame Ken for me being back Creighton</BLO= CKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20= SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">CTB: A worthy occurence to b= e blamed for. Stay & prosper. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_84.9a62e3e.2b794c54_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:48:28 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: cp termite stations? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_WkbBaTBZKjOwu1BPYY5yfw)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_WkbBaTBZKjOwu1BPYY5yfw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'll never tell! - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Follett To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: Re: cp termite stations? How do you think he got his nick name? Too bad you guys don't know my undercover family nick name... ][<en --Boundary_(ID_WkbBaTBZKjOwu1BPYY5yfw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>I'll never tell!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 10, 2003 12:24 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cp termite stations?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face="Times New Roman" color=#000080 size=3 FAMILY="SERIF">How do you think he got his nick name? <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Too bad you guys don't know my undercover family nick name...<BR><BR>][<en</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_WkbBaTBZKjOwu1BPYY5yfw)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:46:37 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Needed ... a good wine/liquor store in Detroit. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cc.1829fdc0.2b794d8d_boundary" --part1_cc.1829fdc0.2b794d8d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any ideas? Thoughtfully single-spaced by, Christopher How about Dearborn? ][<en --part1_cc.1829fdc0.2b794d8d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"arial" LANG=3D"0">Any ideas? Thoughtfully=20= single-spaced by, Christopher </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> How about Dearborn? ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_cc.1829fdc0.2b794d8d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:08:55 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Burning Man, Redux... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" No, still firmly attached to his block head. Ruth At 12:26 PM -0500 2/10/03, Ken Follett wrote: He was unceremoniously escorted out the door by the ear. Ruth: How terrible! Was the ear in a shoe box? ][<en -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:06:43 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A little ink In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Larry, I went to read it and they wanted me to sign my life away just to read the article so I just quickly left. Can someone send it to me please? Thanks, Ruth At 12:01 PM -0500 2/10/03, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >An article in the New York Times mentioned me (and my Nigerian Fraud >Email collection) today: > >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/10/technology/10SPAM.html > > Larry > >-- >To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ><http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:03:02 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ralph, and anybody else who wants to, You're always welcome to come see me. I just can't go to where you are. I have an elderly dementia patient to see to. I don't even go up north for meetings of the Vt Old Cemetery Assoc. any more as I don't want to be gone that long. I do work part time some days while my husband stays here with Dad. Ruth At 11:29 AM -0500 2/10/03, Ralph Walter wrote: In a message dated 2/10/2003 11:26:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ruth, We knew you were the smart one. But we'd still like to see you. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:31:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A little ink MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_142.a2d5690.2b79660d_boundary" --part1_142.a2d5690.2b79660d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/03 3:23:02 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: > I went to read it and they wanted me to sign my life away just to read the > article so I just quickly left No they didn't, just cut and paste the cite - the first week of articles is free. Sign me, Big Deal, Getting Into The Times, They've Got At Least 15 Sections A Day Now! --part1_142.a2d5690.2b79660d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" sty= le=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D7 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial= " LANG=3D"0">2/10/03 3:23:02 PM</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACK= GROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"= 0">, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I went to read it and they want= ed me to sign my life away just to read the article so I just quickly=20= left</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> No they didn't, just cut and paste the cite - the first week of articles is=20= free. Sign me, Big Deal, Getting Into The Times, They've G= ot At Least 15 Sections A Day Now! </FONT></HTML> --part1_142.a2d5690.2b79660d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:32:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: STONEWORK SYMPOSIUM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_42.34de2ec5.2b796644_boundary" --part1_42.34de2ec5.2b796644_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/03 3:23:29 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: > I have an elderly dementia patient to see to. I see - a BP subscriber. --part1_42.34de2ec5.2b796644_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/10/03 3:23:29 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I have an elderly dementia pati= ent to see to. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I see - a BP subscriber. </FONT></HTML> --part1_42.34de2ec5.2b796644_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:14:52 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Now that you mention it, real limestone isn't what it used to be... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Now that you mention it, real limestone isn't >what it used to be... >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:37:51 EST > > Is this simply a matter of weathering? Or are aliens taking over our >limestone quarries? >Sharpshooter: Probably weathering, which could also have probably been more >closely matched with a bit more process and care. As it is, time works >wonders. I've not heard any rumors of ET's & the Indiana quarries... please >confirm your sources of information. ][<en Hey man, have you not seen the "X-Files"? Those aliens are all over the mid- west1 Nick _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:28:58 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >Therefore hot water heater MAY not be on verge of catastrophic >explosion/long >painful death out as originally anticipated. > >Nick: I remain confused over the little white specs in the drain. Could you >please provide us with a symbolic interpretation of Ralph connecting death >with his water heater and dreaming of Mr. M. Stecklow aka the grim reaper? >Thanks, ][<en Ken: It is 21 hour here but for the sake of Ralph's psychic well being, I will make a consultation. The "house" is the A#1 symbol of the feminine principle and the soul. The water heater can be seen as the beating "heart" of the house. All things nurtiuring, life giving and creative are attributed to the feminine principal. Viewed in this context, I believe the water heater crisis is quite clear. Viewed in a restoration context, I would say even clearer. Time to get a new water heater. The white bits in the strainer are less clear. My first impression is of bone shards. I would need a little more input from the patient (I mean Ralph). Herr Sigmund Micros _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:33:17 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "M. P. Edison" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Masonry Cement or PCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My outbound e-mail has been messed up for the past few days, so excuse me if I already answered this. My take on this issue is that the primary reason masonry cement is used is because it is cheaper/lower energy to produce, as Steve S. has suggested. It is not necessarily air-entrained, and there are those who adhere to the belief that air entrainment significantly reduces bond strength. We have been partial to using lime-cement because of the greater plastic deformation cited by Eric. I'm not very sure how efficiently or reliably autogeneous healing occurs as a practical matter, but in theory, this can happen. The great overlooked point in my mind is that although lime theoretically reacts with carbon dioxide to form calcite (calcium carbonate) which is the same as the main component in limestone, lime never really converts completely, even after a century or more. The remaining calcium hydroxide readily forms a soft paste when wet, hence the greater plastic deformation. Mike E. > Thanks for the responses so far, but it seams to me, clumping issues aside, > that PCL makes a much better mortar - better plastic deformation and > autogeneous healing of cracks. What purpose does the pulverized limestone > have (powdered aggregate?) and isn't hydrated lime better? > > Also the technical notes from the Brick Institute of America and the > Portland Cement Association "qualify" the heck out of describing what > masonry cement is - there is no good info provided. The primary aspects > mentioned are job site ease - one bag for cement, a pile of sand and water. > How is one supposed to confidently specify mortar when you can't find out > what is in it? > > Mike E, can you shed some of your wisdom? > > Thanks, > > Eric Hammarberg > Director of Preservation > Associate > LZA Technology > 641 Avenue of the Americas > New York, NY 10011-2014 > Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct) > Mobile: 917.439.3537 > Fax: 917.661.8161 (Direct) > email: [log in to unmask] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Stokowski [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:52 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Masonry Cement or PCL > > > Eric: > > Masonry cement is a mixture of Portland cement, mineral filler, and other > components. The mineral filler is usually limestone powder. It can be > other things, such as diatomaceous earth, ground basalt, ground feldspar, > ground quartz, etc. The "other components" that I allude to, if included, > are usually hydrated lime, an air-entraining agent, and in some situations > an anti-cake agent. Calcined bentonite and calcined kaolin clays have also > been used. During the manufacture of masonry cement the Portland cement and > the limestone powder are usually mixed and interground in a ball mill. The > Portland cement becomes finer, more reactive, and more effective. Limestone > is the usual mineral filler because it does not cause excessive wear on the > ball mill. The approximate proportions for Type N masonry cement are 45% > Portland cement, 45% pulverized limestone, and 10% hydrated lime. In > manufacturing practice, the proportions are adjusted to a happy medium > between workability, ASTM C-270 strength, and RMC (raw materials cost). > > It has not been my experience that the manufacturers will not divulge the > composition of their product. However, the sales force usually does not > have this information in their memory, although if you read the MSDS you can > get a good qualitative idea. The MSDS usually doesn't tell you the > admixtures, but they really aren't that difficult to identify with $10 worth > of labor and $20,000 worth of knowledge. The quantitative proportions are > usually only known to the lab and production guys. And to guys like me who > reverse engineer and develop these products. > > Masonry cement is on the market because it is a profitable product that > performs well. It is primarily a bagged product. As such, it has a major > advantage over bagged Portland cement/hydrated lime mixtures; it cakes less. > That is primarily because of the interground mineral filler. Masonry cement > is also less expensive and has a couple of purely technical advantages. If > an air entrainer is used, the resulting mortar has enhanced frost > resistance. If the mineral filler is limestone, the masonry-cement mortar > also has more acid resistance because of the reactivity of the pulverized > limestone with acids. There are also more nebulous advantages related to > masonry cement being a relatively "Green" product. > > Steve Stokowski > Stone Products Consultants > Building Products Microscopy > 10 Clark St., Ste. A > Ashland, Mass. 01721-2145 > 508-881-6364 (ph. & fax) > http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm > <http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm> > > ****************************************************** > In a message dated 2/4/03 4:41:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > > I am trying to find out why masonry cement (MC) is on the market when > portland cement / lime (PCL) mortars appear, at least to me, to perform > better and more reliably? > > As many of us know, MC is typically a mix of portland cement, pulverized > limestone and "proprietary admixtures" which manufacturers seldom (never) > will divulge. PCL is portland cement and lime, period. > > Can anybody shed light on this for me? > > > > > > > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > The information in this email and any attachments may contain > confidential information that is intended solely for the > attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or > any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or > retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. > If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender > immediately, and delete this message. > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > Edison Coatings, Inc. M. P. Edison President 3 Northwest Drive Plainville, CT 06062 USA Phone: (860)747-2220 Fax: (860)747-2280 email: [log in to unmask] Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:10:45 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Epperly <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Sorry, I could not resist In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very Good, Cheers El BJ On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 05:24 AM, J. Bryan Blundell wrote: > The following email was received this morning. > > THE MAN IN THE BALLOON > > A man in a hot air balloon realized he was lost. He reduced altitude > and > spotted a man below. He descended a bit more and shouted "Excuse me, > can > you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I > don't > know where I am." > > "The man below replied, "You're in a hot air balloon hovering > approximately > 30 feet above the ground. You're between 40 and 41 degrees north > latitude > and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude". > > "You must be a Contractor", said the balloonist. > > "I am," replied the man. "How did you know?" > > "Well", answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically > correct, but I've no idea what to make of your information the fact is > I'm > still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help at all. If anything, > you've > delayed my trip" > > The man below responded, "You must be an Architect" > > "I am", replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?" > > "Well", said the man, "you don't know where you are or where you're > going. > You have risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You > made a promise, which you've no idea how to keep, and you expect people > beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you are in exactly the > same > position you were in before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault." > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:15:45 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cb.2446d9f.2b79c4e1_boundary" --part1_1cb.2446d9f.2b79c4e1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/2003 4:29:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ken: > > It is 21 hour here but for the sake of Ralph's psychic well being, I will > make a consultation. Oooohhhh. He's staying up til 9 PM. That must be a Swiss record.> > The "house" is the A#1 symbol of the feminine principle and the soul. Sez > you. The water heater can be seen as the beating "heart" of the house. > We're talking about a domestic hot water heater here, not a boiler. None > will be surprised to learn that in my house, we have hot air heat; they may > be surprised to learn that Mrs. Ralph and the Little Ralphs always claim to > be cold, however. All things nurtiuring, life giving and creative are > attributed to the feminine principal. Attributed by who? A bunch of > girls? Lesbo Dykes from Hell? What do the Penis People have to say about > this horsepuckey? Viewed in this context, I believe the water heater crisis > is quite clear. Viewed in a restoration context, I would say even clearer. > Time to get a new water heater. Nah, I think the hwh is OK. Unless it > falls through the floor, in which case we could be in deep fecal matter, > not to mention Debcaves' Chert Chickens. > > The white bits in the strainer are less clear. No fecal matter, Sherlock! > If they were clear, they wouldn't be white, and I couldn't see them in the > water, now could I? My first impression is of bone shards. You're thinking > of Pyrate and his chastity belts. Ain't no bone shards in my water lines: > I have a whole-house water filter just inside the meter. I would need a > little more input from the patient (I mean Ralph). Don't hold your breath, > Seamus Micros, Private Dick. > > Herr Sigmund Micros Mr. Hot Air --part1_1cb.2446d9f.2b79c4e1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/10/2003 4:29:51 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ken:<BR> <BR> It is 21 hour here but for the sake of Ralph's psychic well being, I will<BR= > make a consultation.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BA= CKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Oooohhhh. He's staying up= til 9 PM. That must be a Swiss record.<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style= =3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PAD= DING-LEFT: 5px"></B><BR> The "house" is the A#1 symbol of the feminine principle and the soul. <B>Sez= you. </B>The water heater can be seen as the beating "heart" of the house.=20= <B>We're talking about a domestic hot water heater here, not a boiler. = None will be surprised to learn that in my house, we have hot air heat; the= y may be surprised to learn that Mrs. Ralph and the Little Ralphs always cla= im to be cold, however. </B>All things nurtiuring, life giving and creative&= nbsp; are attributed to the feminine principal. <B>Attributed by who?&= nbsp; A bunch of girls? Lesbo Dykes from Hell? What do the Penis People have= to say about this horsepuckey? </B>Viewed in this context, I believe the wa= ter heater crisis is quite clear. Viewed in a restoration context, I would s= ay even clearer. Time to get a new water heater. <B>Nah, I think the h= wh is OK. Unless it falls through the floor, in which case we could be in de= ep fecal matter, not to mention Debcaves' Chert Chickens.</B><BR> <BR> The white bits in the strainer are less clear. <B>No fecal matter, Sherlock!= If they were clear, they wouldn't be white, and I couldn't see them in the=20= water, now could I? </B>My first impression is of bone shards. <B>You're thi= nking of Pyrate and his chastity belts. Ain't no bone shards in <U>my<= /U> water lines: I have a whole-house water filter just inside the meter. </= B>I would need a little more input from the patient (I mean Ralph). <B>Don't= hold your breath, Seamus Micros, Private Dick.</B><BR> <BR> Herr Sigmund Micros</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BAC= KGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Mr. Hot Air</B><BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1cb.2446d9f.2b79c4e1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:50:12 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A little ink In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Oh, I just clicked on the blue print. Ruth At 3:31 PM -0500 2/10/03, Met History wrote: In a message dated 2/10/03 3:23:02 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: I went to read it and they wanted me to sign my life away just to read the article so I just quickly left No they didn't, just cut and paste the cite - the first week of articles is free. Sign me, Big Deal, Getting Into The Times, They've Got At Least 15 Sections A Day Now! -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:13:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: The North Shall Rise Again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cf.24e06e4.2b7a5eef_boundary" --part1_1cf.24e06e4.2b7a5eef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/2003 11:27:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The Yankees still pounded the fecal matter out of you jerks, didn't they? > Four years later. But we got revenge for your tyrannical president. One bullet to the head. Bulls eye! Too bad Sherman was not close by. Sic semper tyrannis! The South is avenged! Steve --part1_1cf.24e06e4.2b7a5eef_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/10/2003 11:27:15 AM Easte= rn Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">The Yankees still pounded the fecal matter out of you jerks= , didn't they?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Four years later. But we got revenge for your tyrannical president. One bull= et to the head. Bulls eye! Too bad Sherman was not close by.<BR> <BR> Sic semper tyrannis! The South is avenged!<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_1cf.24e06e4.2b7a5eef_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:17:01 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Wondering about the value of 17th century florins? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bd.2e969a90.2b7a5fdd_boundary" --part1_bd.2e969a90.2b7a5fdd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try <A HREF="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dotcon/historical/bubbles.html">www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dotcon/historical/bubbles.html</A> It will show you the value of florins in relationship to common purchaseables c1634-1638. Four fat oxen 480 florins Eight fat swine 240 florins, etc. Considerately single spaced by, Yr Obdnt Svnt [sp?], Sharpshooter --part1_bd.2e969a90.2b7a5fdd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Try <A HREF=3D"http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fro= ntline/shows/dotcon/historical/bubbles.html">www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontlin= e/shows/dotcon/historical/bubbles.html</A>=20 <BR>It will show you the value of florins in relationship to common purchase= ables c1634-1638. <BR>Four fat oxen 480 florins Eight fat swine 240 florins, etc. <BR> <BR>Considerately single spaced by, Yr Obdnt Svnt [sp?], Sharpshooter </FONT= ></HTML> --part1_bd.2e969a90.2b7a5fdd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:50:49 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Wondering about the value of 17th century florins? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Met History > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:17 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Wondering about the value of 17th century florins? >=20 >=20 > Considerately single spaced by, Yr Obdnt Svnt [sp?], Sharpshooter But encoded in HTML by the hegemonista AOL, apparently beyond your control, to swell it unnecessarily into a bloated mass of electrons. _____________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Conformists die, but Raleigh Historic heretics live on forever" Districts Commission -- Elbert Hubbard [log in to unmask] =20 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:08:20 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Wondering about the value of 17th century florins? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_151.1ba35771.2b7a6be4_boundary" --part1_151.1ba35771.2b7a6be4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "A company for carrying on an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is." Sounds like BP. I hear there is a high level of speculation in the currency of Iraqi Kurds. ][<en --part1_151.1ba35771.2b7a6be4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">"A company for carrying on an undertaking of great adv= antage, but nobody to know what it is." </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Sounds like BP. I hear there is a high level of speculation in the currency=20= of Iraqi Kurds. ][<en <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_151.1ba35771.2b7a6be4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:22:23 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The North Shall Rise Again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/11/2003 9:13:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The Yankees still pounded the fecal matter out of you jerks, didn't they?.> > > Four years later. But we got revenge for your tyrannical president. One bullet to the head. Bulls eye! Too bad Sherman > was not close by. > Steve, Yep, that was a smart move, alright. Tell us again how long it took you geniuses to get back to where you were in 1861? Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:23:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Now that you mention it, real limestone isn't what it used to be... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_132.1a6d514a.2b7a6f70_boundary" --part1_132.1a6d514a.2b7a6f70_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey man, have you not seen the "X-Files"? Nick: We stopped watching the X-files as it occurs during dinner. Eating while watching bodies with alien maggots ouzing out of them did not do much for the appetite. I had not so much of a problem, but the cook did protest and I was afraid that we would never again have hot meals. It had not occured to me that missing the program would have a serious impact on my histo presto career. ][<en --part1_132.1a6d514a.2b7a6f70_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Hey man, have you not seen the "X-Files"?</BLOCKQUOTE>= <BR> <BR> Nick: We stopped watching the X-files as it occurs during dinner. Eating whi= le watching bodies with alien maggots ouzing out of them did not do much for= the appetite. I had not so much of a problem, but the cook did protest and=20= I was afraid that we would never again have hot meals. It had not occured to= me that missing the program would have a serious impact on my histo presto=20= career. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_132.1a6d514a.2b7a6f70_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:28:02 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Is it really better to use multiple thin coats? Why? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_115.1ed51432.2b7a7082_boundary" --part1_115.1ed51432.2b7a7082_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yrs, Polly --part1_115.1ed51432.2b7a7082_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Yrs, Polly </FONT></HTML> --part1_115.1ed51432.2b7a7082_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:03:42 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Dan Becker <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Raleigh Historic Districts Commission Subject: Re: Is it really better to use multiple thin coats? Why? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Met History > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:28 AM Yes. Because. D. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:09:18 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/NkYjhcqtewdovyg8kUzvA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_/NkYjhcqtewdovyg8kUzvA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I know someone who has played for Nick and the Nice Guys. Any relation? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Follett To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater Therefore hot water heater MAY not be on verge of catastrophic explosion/long painful death out as originally anticipated. Nick: I remain confused over the little white specs in the drain. Could you please provide us with a symbolic interpretation of Ralph connecting death with his water heater and dreaming of Mr. M. Stecklow aka the grim reaper? Thanks, ][<en --Boundary_(ID_/NkYjhcqtewdovyg8kUzvA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>I know someone who has played for Nick and the Nice Guys. Any relation?</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 10, 2003 12:46 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Nick & the Tankless Water Heater</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Therefore hot water heater MAY not be on verge of catastrophic explosion/long painful death out as originally anticipated. <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Nick: I remain confused over the little white specs in the drain. Could you please provide us with a symbolic interpretation of Ralph connecting death with his water heater and dreaming of Mr. M. Stecklow aka the grim reaper? Thanks, ][<en<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_/NkYjhcqtewdovyg8kUzvA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:14:09 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Now that you mention it, real limestone isn't what it used to be... MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8pvH3E1JPxjmICm2tHwRhg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_8pvH3E1JPxjmICm2tHwRhg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Y'all gotta read the book I just finished last night by Christopher Buckley, called "Little Green Men". The little footnotes get annoying sometimes, but end up being part of the story. Published in 1999, I picked it up at a used book store Ken and I visited in Syracuse over the holidays. Good for a chuckle, and I won't tell you who the aliens really are - you have to find out for yourself. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Nicholas Micros Hey man, have you not seen the "X-Files"? Those aliens are all over the mid- west1 Nick _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> --Boundary_(ID_8pvH3E1JPxjmICm2tHwRhg) Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Y'all gotta read the book I just finished last night by Christopher Buckley, called "Little Green Men". The little footnotes get annoying sometimes, but end up being part of the story. Published in 1999, I picked it up at a used book store Ken and I visited in Syracuse over the holidays. Good for a chuckle, and I won't tell you who the aliens really are - you have to find out for yourself.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Nicholas Micros</A> </DIV><BR>Hey man, have you not seen the "X-Files"? Those aliens are all over the mid-<BR>west1<BR><BR>Nick<BR><BR><BR>_________________________________________________________________<BR>MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*<BR><A href="http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus">http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus</A><BR><BR>--<BR>To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the<BR>uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:<BR><<A href="http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html">http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html</A>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_8pvH3E1JPxjmICm2tHwRhg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:22:58 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Wondering about the value of 17th century florins? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_asb+SQ+LxmfGKoy8NntvCw)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_asb+SQ+LxmfGKoy8NntvCw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Funny the subject line. Richard's been buying some florins on eBay, and I'd never heard of a florin until he told me about them. Oh no - just toooo many coinkydinkies. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Follett To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: Re: Wondering about the value of 17th century florins? "A company for carrying on an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is." Sounds like BP. I hear there is a high level of speculation in the currency of Iraqi Kurds. ][<en --Boundary_(ID_asb+SQ+LxmfGKoy8NntvCw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Funny the subject line. Richard's been buying some florins on eBay, and I'd never heard of a florin until he told me about them. Oh no - just toooo many coinkydinkies.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:08 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Wondering about the value of 17th century florins?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">"A company for carrying on an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is." <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Sounds like BP. I hear there is a high level of speculation in the currency of Iraqi Kurds. ][<en <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_asb+SQ+LxmfGKoy8NntvCw)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:08:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: This is just what made this country great... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_173.162d06ed.2b7a8820_boundary" --part1_173.162d06ed.2b7a8820_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe said Monday that some individuals had contacted NASA, but were reluctant to forward their photographs and footage of Columbia amid concerns about the loss of their proprietary rights.>>> --part1_173.162d06ed.2b7a8820_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><<<</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">NASA Administrator Sean=20= O'Keefe said Monday that some individuals had contacted NASA, but were reluc= tant to forward their photographs and footage of Columbia amid concerns abou= t the loss of their proprietary rights.>>></FONT></HTML> --part1_173.162d06ed.2b7a8820_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:51:38 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: This is just what made this country great... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5F8387CF953589C4A0E87FE6" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5F8387CF953589C4A0E87FE6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3E73DA45465D637403286CCE" --------------3E73DA45465D637403286CCE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Didn't the Zapruder family have to sue the government? Met History wrote: > <<<NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe said Monday that some individuals > had contacted NASA, but were reluctant to forward their photographs > and footage of Columbia amid concerns about the loss of their > proprietary rights.>>> --------------3E73DA45465D637403286CCE Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Didn't the Zapruder family have to sue the government? <br> <br> <p>Met History wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font size=-1><font face="Times New Roman"><<<</font><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000">NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe said Monday that some individuals had contacted NASA, but were reluctant to forward their photographs and footage of Columbia amid concerns about the loss of their proprietary rights.>>></font></font></font></blockquote> </html> --------------3E73DA45465D637403286CCE-- --------------5F8387CF953589C4A0E87FE6 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------5F8387CF953589C4A0E87FE6-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:16:42 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Workshop: Historic Wood Flooring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_107.1f53ecc4.2b7a980a_boundary" --part1_107.1f53ecc4.2b7a980a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HISTORIC WOODEN FLOORING Construction, Repairs, Finishes, and Maintenance Certificate Program Elective February 28, 2003 and March 1, 2003 Wooden flooring presents a myriad of challenges for the preservation professional. Participants will explore historic methods of wooden flooring installation and finishes, contemporary products for floor finishes and when to use them and when not, skills and techniques for finishing and repair, and the process for arriving at appropriate solutions for repairs and maintenance depending on the nature of historic fabric, level of foot traffic and costs. Demonstrations and the opportunity to examine several flooring systems in the Pierce House for in-class problem solving will complement slide-illustrated lectures and discussion. The Pierce House is a rare surviving example of a First Period timber-frame house in the Boston area. Built in 1683, then expanded in 1712 and 1765, the Pierce House was lived in by ten successive generations of the Pierce family until it entered the collection of the SPNEA in 1968. The house is featured in "The Framed Houses of Massachusetts Bay, 1625-1725" by Abbott Lowell Cummings. The house contains a variety of surface materials and finishes representing three centuries of occupation, giving students a chance to see and study wood flooring from the 17th century through the 20th century. Until recently the house has not been open to the general public. This course will give students a chance to see the house during the investigation and restoration phase as SPNEA prepares it for a grand opening in the fall of 2003. SPNEA staff will give a special behind-the-scenes tour. Instructor: Andrew Ladygo, Architectural Conservation Services Dates: Friday and Saturday, February 28 - March 1, 2003 Time: 8:30 AM - 4:30 PM daily Location: Pierce House, Dorchester, MA Cost: HWI or SPNEA member/government staff: $165 Others: $180 Sponsored in cooperation with the Society for the Preservation of New England Antiquities The Preservation Education Institute PO Box 1777 Windsor VT 05089-0021 802-674-6752 www.preservationworks.org --part1_107.1f53ecc4.2b7a980a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">HISTORIC WOODEN FLOORING<BR> <BR> Construction, Repairs, Finishes, and Maintenance<BR> Certificate Program Elective<BR> <BR> February 28, 2003 and March 1, 2003<BR> <BR> Wooden flooring presents a myriad of challenges for the preservation profess= ional. Participants will explore historic methods of wooden flooring i= nstallation and finishes, contemporary products for floor finishes and when=20= to use them and when not, skills and techniques for finishing and repair, an= d the process for arriving at appropriate solutions for repairs and maintena= nce depending on the nature of historic fabric, level of foot traffic and co= sts. Demonstrations and the opportunity to examine several flooring sy= stems in the Pierce House for in-class problem solving will complement slide= -illustrated lectures and discussion.<BR> <BR> The Pierce House is a rare surviving example of a First Period timber-frame=20= house in the Boston area. Built in 1683, then expanded in 1712 and 176= 5, the Pierce House was lived in by ten successive generations of the Pierce= family until it entered the collection of the SPNEA in 1968. <BR> The house is featured in "The Framed Houses of Massachusetts Bay, 1625-1725"= by Abbott Lowell Cummings.<BR> <BR> The house contains a variety of surface materials and finishes representing=20= three centuries of occupation, giving students a chance to see and study woo= d flooring from the 17th century through the 20th century.<BR> <BR> Until recently the house has not been open to the general public. This cours= e will give students a chance to see the house during the investigation and=20= restoration phase as SPNEA prepares it for a grand opening in the fall of 20= 03. SPNEA staff will give a special behind-the-scenes tour.<BR> <BR> Instructor: Andrew Ladygo, Architectural Conservation Services<BR> <BR> Dates: Friday and Saturday, February 28 - March 1, 2003<BR> Time: 8:30 AM - 4:30 PM daily<BR> Location: Pierce House, Dorchester, MA<BR> Cost: HWI or SPNEA member/government staff: $165 Others: $= 180<BR> <BR> Sponsored in cooperation with the Society for the Preservation of New Englan= d Antiquities<BR> <BR> The Preservation Education Institute<BR> PO Box 1777<BR> Windsor VT 05089-0021<BR> 802-674-6752<BR> www.preservationworks.org</FONT></HTML> --part1_107.1f53ecc4.2b7a980a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:24:59 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Now that you mention it, real limestone isn't what it used to be... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Pam: Thanks for the tip. I will try to pick it up on Amazon. Nick _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:31:23 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:15:45 EST > >In a message dated 2/10/2003 4:29:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[log in to unmask] writes: > > > Ken: > > > > It is 21 hour here but for the sake of Ralph's psychic well being, I >will > > make a consultation. >Oooohhhh. He's staying up til 9 PM. That must be a Swiss record.> > > The "house" is the A#1 symbol of the feminine principle and the soul. >Sez > > you. The water heater can be seen as the beating "heart" of the house. > > We're talking about a domestic hot water heater here, not a boiler. >None > > will be surprised to learn that in my house, we have hot air heat; they >may > > be surprised to learn that Mrs. Ralph and the Little Ralphs always claim >to > > be cold, however. All things nurtiuring, life giving and creative are > > attributed to the feminine principal. Attributed by who? A bunch of > > girls? Lesbo Dykes from Hell? What do the Penis People have to say about > > this horsepuckey? Viewed in this context, I believe the water heater >crisis > > is quite clear. Viewed in a restoration context, I would say even >clearer. > > Time to get a new water heater. Nah, I think the hwh is OK. Unless it > > falls through the floor, in which case we could be in deep fecal matter, > > not to mention Debcaves' Chert Chickens. > > > > The white bits in the strainer are less clear. No fecal matter, >Sherlock! > > If they were clear, they wouldn't be white, and I couldn't see them in >the > > water, now could I? My first impression is of bone shards. You're >thinking > > of Pyrate and his chastity belts. Ain't no bone shards in my water >lines: > > I have a whole-house water filter just inside the meter. I would need a > > little more input from the patient (I mean Ralph). Don't hold your >breath, > > Seamus Micros, Private Dick. > > > > Herr Sigmund Micros > >Mr. Hot Air A little resistance is normal, even to be desired. I think a cure is within sight. Dick Micron > > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:38:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16a.1a82dc39.2b7ab92b_boundary" --part1_16a.1a82dc39.2b7ab92b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/11/2003 2:32:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > A little resistance is normal, even to be desired. I think a cure is within > sight. > Nick, When does the transference begin? Ralph and Little Ralph --part1_16a.1a82dc39.2b7ab92b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/11/2003 2:32:01 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A little resistance is normal,=20= even to be desired. I think a cure is within<BR> sight.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Nick,<BR> <BR> When does the transference begin?<BR> <BR> Ralph and Little Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_16a.1a82dc39.2b7ab92b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:05:23 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cb.257c9a0.2b7abf93_boundary" --part1_1cb.257c9a0.2b7abf93_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A little resistance is normal, even to be desired. I think a cure is within sight. Quisk, Nick, while you have his undivided attention tell him to... --part1_1cb.257c9a0.2b7abf93_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">A little resistance is normal, even to be desired. I t= hink a cure is within<BR> sight.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Quisk, Nick, while you have his undivided attention tell him to...</FONT></H= TML> --part1_1cb.257c9a0.2b7abf93_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:57:24 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_125.1e336c2d.2b7cfe44_boundary" --part1_125.1e336c2d.2b7cfe44_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en --part1_125.1e336c2d.2b7cfe44_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Several preservationeers have inquired of me back chan= nel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an hi= sto presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_125.1e336c2d.2b7cfe44_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:05:18 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1A972C9CB4475DEAD6F7963E" --------------1A972C9CB4475DEAD6F7963E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm way out there......................... ============ Ken Follett wrote: > Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have > not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. > Is anyone out there? ][<en --------------1A972C9CB4475DEAD6F7963E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> I'm way out there......................... <p>============ <p>Ken Follett wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en</font></font></blockquote> </html> --------------1A972C9CB4475DEAD6F7963E-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:03:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_46.354c9dc0.2b7cffb0_boundary" --part1_46.354c9dc0.2b7cffb0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's the frequency Kenneth? Read you loud and clear. Wall to wall, tree top tall. Sign me, Good Buddy --part1_46.354c9dc0.2b7cffb0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">What's the frequency Kenneth? Read you loud an= d clear. Wall to wall, tree top tall.<BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> Good Buddy</FONT></HTML> --part1_46.354c9dc0.2b7cffb0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:04:10 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_151.1bbf15cb.2b7cffda_boundary" --part1_151.1bbf15cb.2b7cffda_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pinheads, I'm here. At the moment. Ralph --part1_151.1bbf15cb.2b7cffda_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Pinheads,<BR> <BR> I'm here. At the moment.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_151.1bbf15cb.2b7cffda_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:07:07 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Score, Robert" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-4342fa16-b698-4165-9d17-fc20197c1ede" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------=_NextPartTM-000-4342fa16-b698-4165-9d17-fc20197c1ede Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D369.31B24A30" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D369.31B24A30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm out there Bob -----Original Message----- From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:57 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: BP On? Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D369.31B24A30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=840120714-13022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm out there</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=840120714-13022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=840120714-13022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Bob</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> BP On?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D369.31B24A30-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-4342fa16-b698-4165-9d17-fc20197c1ede-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:12:36 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_54.9f7ea0d.2b7d01d4_boundary" --part1_54.9f7ea0d.2b7d01d4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems we are all out there...somewhere. --part1_54.9f7ea0d.2b7d01d4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">It seems we are all out there...somewhere.</FO= NT></HTML> --part1_54.9f7ea0d.2b7d01d4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:14:34 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Witold Karwowski <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2D340.52D391C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2D340.52D391C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Still lurking and feeling good about it... Witold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Score, Robert=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:07 AM Subject: Re: BP On? I'm out there Bob -----Original Message----- From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:57 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: BP On? Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they = have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto = test. Is anyone out there? ][<en=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2D340.52D391C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2723.2500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style=3D"COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Still lurking and feeling good about = it...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Witold</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Score, Robert</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 13, = 2003 9:07=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: BP On?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D840120714-13022003><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I'm=20 out there</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D840120714-13022003><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D840120714-13022003><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2>Bob</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ken Follett=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 13, 2003 = 7:57=20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 BP On?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT = lang=3D0=20 face=3DArial size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Several preservationeers = have inquired=20 of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few = days...=20 so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? = ][<en</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2D340.52D391C0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:19:05 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What about Estelle? Sign me, Not Getting Any Messages, Either -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:21:13 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Follett > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:57 AM >=20 >=20 > Is anyone out there? ][<en=20 So judging from the replies so far, in a stunning revelation we find out that apparently BP is not central to some universes and that we have all been coterminously busy somewhere else. Shocking. _______________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "The workman ought often to Raleigh Historic be thinking, and the thinker Districts Commission often to be working." [log in to unmask] -- John Ruskin 919/890-3678=20 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:24:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_174.16d86184.2b7d04b2_boundary" --part1_174.16d86184.2b7d04b2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/13/2003 9:13:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > > It seems we are all out there...somewhere. Well, as long as nobody has crossed over, I guess it's OK. Ralph --part1_174.16d86184.2b7d04b2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/13/2003 9:13:18 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">It seems we are all out= there...somewhere.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BAC= KGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LA= NG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0">Well, as long as nobody has=20= crossed over, I guess it's OK.<BR> <BR> Ralph </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SI= ZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_174.16d86184.2b7d04b2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:25:19 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C2D341.D5A96A60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C2D341.D5A96A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en How can we tell with all these bees in our heads? ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C2D341.D5A96A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2D341.D3663120"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial = FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Several <span = class=3DSpellE>preservationeers</span> have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in = a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? <span class=3DGramE>][</span><en<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>How can we tell with all these bees in our = heads?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C2D341.D5A96A60-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:29:54 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F6BEE8F46A220B79285609AF" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F6BEE8F46A220B79285609AF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 5 x 5 --------------F6BEE8F46A220B79285609AF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------F6BEE8F46A220B79285609AF-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:42:14 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F6_01C2D344.30B54C60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01F6_01C2D344.30B54C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got this one now, thanks. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: BP On? Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they = have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto = test. Is anyone out there? ][<en ------=_NextPart_000_01F6_01C2D344.30B54C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I got this one now, = thanks.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 13, = 2003 8:57=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> BP On?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Several preservationeers have inquired of me back = channel=20 that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an = histo=20 presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_01F6_01C2D344.30B54C60-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:01:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mary Krugman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cf.289b5b9.2b7d0d53_boundary" --part1_1cf.289b5b9.2b7d0d53_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/13/2003 8:57:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Is anyone out there? > > (Erp) Julip --part1_1cf.289b5b9.2b7d0d53_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/13/2003 8:57:55 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Is anyone out there?<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">(Erp)<BR> <BR> Julip</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZ= E=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1cf.289b5b9.2b7d0d53_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:14:37 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2dA+Ye1lYNCiV3W193JoUQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_2dA+Ye1lYNCiV3W193JoUQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I like the way you answered that question. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Score, Robert To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:07 AM Subject: Re: BP On? I'm out there Bob -----Original Message----- From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:57 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: BP On? Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en --Boundary_(ID_2dA+Ye1lYNCiV3W193JoUQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>I like the way you answered that question.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Score, Robert</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:07 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: BP On?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=840120714-13022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm out there</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=840120714-13022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=840120714-13022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Bob</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> BP On?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_2dA+Ye1lYNCiV3W193JoUQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:33:08 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-271195854 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-4-271195854 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Just busy Boss. -jc On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 07:57 AM, Ken Follett wrote: > Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they > have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo > presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en > --Apple-Mail-4-271195854 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Just busy Boss. -jc On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 07:57 AM, Ken Follett wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<<en</smaller></fontfamily> </excerpt> --Apple-Mail-4-271195854-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:07:50 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Hammarberg, Eric" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 10-15 Message Delivered Thanks, Eric Hammarberg Director of Preservation Associate LZA Technology 641 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10011-2014 Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct) Mobile: 917.439.3537 Fax: 917.661.8161 (Direct) email: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: John Callan [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:33 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BP On? Just busy Boss. -jc On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 07:57 AM, Ken Follett wrote: Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The information in this email and any attachments may contain confidential information that is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this message. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:57:20 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Witold Karwowski <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2D370.3522DBB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2D370.3522DBB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken, The message is:=20 It is on. WK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: Re: BP On? Just busy Boss. -jc On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 07:57 AM, Ken Follett wrote: Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they = have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto = test. Is anyone out there? ][<en ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2D370.3522DBB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2723.2500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style=3D"COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ken,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The message is: </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>It is on.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>WK</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John=20 Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 13, = 2003 10:33=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: BP On?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Just busy Boss.<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR>On Thursday, February = 13,=20 2003, at 07:57 AM, Ken Follett wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Several = preservationeers=20 have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail = in a=20 few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? = ][<en<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY= ></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2D370.3522DBB0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:40:32 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12c.230362fc.2b7d9500_boundary" --part1_12c.230362fc.2b7d9500_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PB? What's PB? D.S. Lexia --part1_12c.230362fc.2b7d9500_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">PB? What's PB?<BR> <BR> D.S. Lexia</FONT></HTML> --part1_12c.230362fc.2b7d9500_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:10:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: BP closing announcement MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15e.1bc2e067.2b7d9c1b_boundary" --part1_15e.1bc2e067.2b7d9c1b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Due to inadequate volume of one-liners from Ralph, our server-sponsor has decided to end hosting BP; this will be the last posting you receive from BP. We sincerely regret the inconvenience. Respectfully, Vanilla Ice, List Moderator --part1_15e.1bc2e067.2b7d9c1b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Due to inadequate volume of one-liners from Ralp= h, our server-sponsor has decided to end hosting BP; this will be the last p= osting you receive from BP. We sincerely regret the inconvenienc= e.<BR> <BR> Respectfully, Vanilla Ice, List Moderator</FONT></HTML> --part1_15e.1bc2e067.2b7d9c1b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:15:13 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: martin skrelunas <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Loud and clear In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-407245420-1045185313=:54212" --0-407245420-1045185313=:54212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en Martin Skrelunas [log in to unmask] P.O. Box 184 New Canaan, Ct 06840 ph.:203.966.4483 / fax:203.972.1767 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day --0-407245420-1045185313=:54212 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <P> <P> <B><I>Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en</FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><BR><BR>Martin Skrelunas<br>[log in to unmask]<br>P.O. Box 184<br>New Canaan, Ct 06840<br>ph.:203.966.4483 / fax:203.972.1767<p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/O=1/I=brandr/vday03/text/flow/*http://shopping.yahoo.com /shop?d=browse&id=20146735">Yahoo! Shopping</a> - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day --0-407245420-1045185313=:54212-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:54:08 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: David Via <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken, Still down here. I)/-\ -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:55:36 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: David Via <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit \/II) -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:01:30 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c4.505409d.2b7da7fa_boundary" --part1_1c4.505409d.2b7da7fa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/13/2003 8:54:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ken, Still down here. I)/-\ > david, do you mean you're still down (under) here? or am I confused again? ralph --part1_1c4.505409d.2b7da7fa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/13/2003 8:54:57 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ken, Still down here.&nbs= p; I)/-\<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> david,<BR> <BR> do you mean you're still down (under) here? or am I confused again?<BR= > <BR> ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c4.505409d.2b7da7fa_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:09:27 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Flooring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C2D3A4.317BF620" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C2D3A4.317BF620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Workshop: Historic Wood Flooring Cost: HWI or SPNEA member/government staff: $165 Others: $180 Hey, Save some money and come to BC where I will conduct a hands-on workshop = in Historic Wooden Flooring for $6 Cdn ($10 US). I am currently = dismantling the four layers of a general store floor started in 1877, = with the purpose of documenting the uses of the room through the changes = of occupancy before replacing decayed joists. So far, along with = determining the original furniture layout, have discovered the = building's original wooden door handle and wooden door latch on the = ground under the first wood floor layer, suggesting that the place began = life as a dirt floored room. Also discovered beautiful termite cities, = a mint condition cut nail and a little metal shirt button with only = three holes. My sewing friend wants to know how they stitched that = one. The workshop will feature far too much about varieties of insect = damage, including the significant observation by my Forest Service bug = consultant that the great amount of infestation just below the serving = side of original bar counter was likely due to the sugars left from = spilled brew at that location. It seems that wood loving bugs are = sugar freaks too. cp fat and happy in old bc ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C2D3A4.317BF620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Workshop: Historic = Wood=20 Flooring</DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial = size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Cost: HWI or SPNEA member/government staff: = $165=20 Others: $180<BR></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Save some money and come to BC where I = will conduct=20 a hands-on workshop in Historic Wooden Flooring for $6 Cdn ($10=20 US). I am currently dismantling the = four layers=20 of a general store floor started in 1877, with the purpose of = documenting=20 the uses of the room through the changes of occupancy before replacing = decayed=20 joists. So far, along with determining the original = furniture=20 layout, have discovered the building's original wooden door handle = and=20 wooden door latch on the ground under the first wood floor layer,=20 suggesting that the place began life as a dirt floored=20 room. Also discovered beautiful termite cities, a mint = condition cut=20 nail and a little metal shirt button with only three holes. = My=20 sewing friend wants to know how they stitched that = one. The=20 workshop will feature far too much about varieties of insect damage, = including=20 the significant observation by my Forest Service bug consultant that the = great=20 amount of infestation just below the serving side of original bar = counter=20 was likely due to the sugars left from spilled brew at that=20 location. It seems that wood loving bugs are sugar = freaks=20 too.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp fat and happy in old=20 bc</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C2D3A4.317BF620-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:48:10 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2D3A9.9A1CAEE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2D3A9.9A1CAEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: BP On? Oh, Oh, My apologies to all. I suspect I am to blame for the system bogging down since, according to = the little bold number beside the BP-Folder in my Outlook Express Inbox, = I have 2149 messages unread in that folder. Oh dear, it is so hard to = keep up sometimes, and I suppose the system just got a gut ache until = more attention was paid to it. ( of course this list only goes back to = 1999 when the computer was new, and the groupings of unreads are a = visual map of significant life moments like the deaths of family members = and the births of new projects and the dates of income tax deadlines ). Someone asked me why I was saving all these old messages and not = clearing them out to create disk space - my answer =3D I am saving = them for my retirement so I will have something to make me grin and = laugh in my old age. It will be nice to not meet any of you face to face so you can remain = the imaginary characters of the inner e-mind. What a delightful world = you make it. cp busily lonely in bc ( and a firm believer in the collective unconscious ) ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2D3A9.9A1CAEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> BP=20 On?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh, Oh,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My apologies to all.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I suspect I am to blame for the system = bogging down=20 since, according to the little bold number beside the BP-Folder in = my=20 Outlook Express Inbox, I have 2149 messages unread in that=20 folder. Oh dear, it is so hard to keep up sometimes, = and I=20 suppose the system just got a gut ache until more attention was paid to=20 it. ( of course this list only goes back to 1999 when = the=20 computer was new, and the groupings of unreads are a = visual map of=20 significant life moments like the deaths of family members and the = births of new=20 projects and the dates of income tax deadlines ).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Someone asked me why I was saving all = these old=20 messages and not clearing them out to create disk space = - =20 my answer =3D I am saving them for my retirement so I = will have=20 something to make me grin and laugh in my old age.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It will be nice to not meet any of you = face to face=20 so you can remain the imaginary characters of the inner = e-mind. What=20 a delightful world you make it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp busily lonely in bc</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>( and a firm believer in the = collective=20 unconscious )</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2D3A9.9A1CAEE0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:08:56 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_154.1bd59e3f.2b7e4468_boundary" --part1_154.1bd59e3f.2b7e4468_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/14/03 12:55:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > It will be nice to not meet any of you face to face so you can remain the > imaginary characters of the inner e-mind. Ralph and I are tall, good-looking, wear tailored pin-stripe suits. I look like Clark Gable; Ralph looks like Gary Cooper. No need to meet. --part1_154.1bd59e3f.2b7e4468_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/14/03 12:55:24 AM Eastern S= tandard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE styl= e=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PA= DDING-LEFT: 5px">It will be nice to not meet any of you face to face so you=20= can remain the imaginary characters of the inner e-mind.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ralph and I are tall, good-looking, wear tailored pin-stripe suits. I look l= ike Clark Gable; Ralph looks like Gary Cooper. No need to meet. =20= </FONT></HTML> --part1_154.1bd59e3f.2b7e4468_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:34:17 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Krpk++fdI02zQlYKcMLnGw)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Krpk++fdI02zQlYKcMLnGw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT You sure your name isn't Liz Dexia? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Devonshire To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: Re: BP On? PB? What's PB? D.S. Lexia --Boundary_(ID_Krpk++fdI02zQlYKcMLnGw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>You sure your name isn't Liz Dexia?</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Mike Devonshire</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:40 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: BP On?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">PB? What's PB?<BR><BR>D.S. Lexia</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_Krpk++fdI02zQlYKcMLnGw)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:14:32 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/14/2003 8:08:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ralph and I are tall, good-looking, wear tailored pin-stripe suits. I look like Clark Gable; Ralph looks like Gary > Cooper. No need to meet. As usual, Sharpshooter has it all wrong. He's cleanshaven and looks like Gary Cooper, and I have a moustache (but also a beard, and a carnation in my lapel) and look like Clark Gable. With a wooden leg. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:30:36 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mary Dierickx <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_28.33929d8c.2b7e578c_boundary" --part1_28.33929d8c.2b7e578c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Still here, lurking. It has been very busy, despite President Bush's effort to destroy the American economy. Also, I moved back to Cedar Street (across the street from the World Trade Center site) last month, which has been time and psyche consuming. I have been working on interesting projects, including a Historic Structure Report on Federal Hall. On one project the contractor has proposed installing the terra cotta now. For those southerners out there, NYC is having a very cold winter. The pieces are quite large and heavy. To keep everything below freezing he plans to warm each piece in a hot bath first. Much as I love a hot bath, it sounded insane and dangerous to me and I disapproved. The issue is still unresolved. Missy ________________________________________________________ Mary Dierickx Mary B. Dierickx Architectural Preservation Consultants 125 Cedar Street, New York, NY 10006 212-227-1271 Fax: 212-608-7167 --part1_28.33929d8c.2b7e578c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Maiandra GD" LANG=3D"0">Still here, lurking.<BR> <BR> It has been very busy, despite President Bush's effort to destroy the Americ= an economy. Also, I moved back to Cedar Street (across the street from the W= orld Trade Center site) last month, which has been time and psyche consuming= .<BR> <BR> I have been working on interesting projects, including a Historic Structure=20= Report on Federal Hall. On one project the contractor has proposed installin= g the terra cotta now. For those southerners out there, NYC is having=20= a very cold winter. The pieces are quite large and heavy. To keep everything= below freezing he plans to warm each piece in a hot bath first. Much=20= as I love a hot bath, it sounded insane and dangerous to me and I disapprove= d. The issue is still unresolved.<BR> <BR> Missy<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000040" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Maiandra GD" LANG=3D"0">______________________= __________________________________<BR> Mary Dierickx<BR> Mary B. Dierickx Architectural Preservation Consultants<BR> 125 Cedar Street, New York, NY 10006<BR> 212-227-1271 Fax: 212-608-7167</FONT></H= TML> --part1_28.33929d8c.2b7e578c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:32:42 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On the internet we are all beautiful. Even if covered with a fine green patina. On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 08:14 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/14/2003 8:08:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > >> Ralph and I are tall, good-looking, wear tailored pin-stripe suits. I >> look like Clark Gable; Ralph looks like Gary >> Cooper. No need to meet. > > As usual, Sharpshooter has it all wrong. He's cleanshaven and looks > like Gary Cooper, and I have a moustache (but also a beard, and a > carnation in my lapel) and look like Clark Gable. With a wooden leg. > > Ralph > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:58:02 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Decade old "IF" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Been reading a lot of thoughts about HSR's and CLR's. Came across this and thought I'd ask, did it happen? "If in 1993 the program is successful in enrolling a class of 30, and the preservation skills training is continued for 10 years, the national park system will have at least one certified graduate for every park containing a historic structure by the year 2003." (I wonder if the author will remember writing this.) -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:07:27 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_22.3654546d.2b7e602f_boundary" --part1_22.3654546d.2b7e602f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/14/2003 9:31:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > It has been very busy, despite President Bush's effort to destroy the > American economy. I guess what we need then is eight more years of Bill Clinton? If anyone can Slick Willie can. Wasn't the economy falling when Bush took office? Surely not. Steve --part1_22.3654546d.2b7e602f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/14/2003 9:31:21 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"M= aiandra GD" LANG=3D"0">It has been very busy, despite President Bush's effor= t to destroy the American economy.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00000= 0" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I guess what we need then is eight more years of Bill Clinton? If anyone can= Slick Willie can. Wasn't the economy falling when Bush took office? Surely=20= not.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_22.3654546d.2b7e602f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:51:40 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: BP on! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm digesting all of the witticisms, and just checking in to say "yes".=20 Uh, oh! Several fire trucks went screaming by, which should at least mean they are not heading to my house across the street from the one that burned a couple weeks ago. They say that over 90% of fire department responses are for medical emergencies, not fires. The fire department has its problems, including lack of money, lack of leader/chief, and apparently too few fires to justify full time staff. Ironic, I guess. Best of Valentine's day to you all.=20 QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA 219 1/2 N. Main Street Ann Arbor, MI 48104 [log in to unmask] www.quinnevans.com v 734.663.5888 f 734.663.5044 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:25:12 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "vgernet.net" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP on! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit out feeding the horses, splitting the wood, working ect, but here all the same ctb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: BP on! > I'm digesting all of the witticisms, and just checking in to say "yes". > > Uh, oh! Several fire trucks went screaming by, which should at least > mean they are not heading to my house across the street from the one > that burned a couple weeks ago. They say that over 90% of fire > department responses are for medical emergencies, not fires. The fire > department has its problems, including lack of money, lack of > leader/chief, and apparently too few fires to justify full time staff. > Ironic, I guess. > > Best of Valentine's day to you all. > > > QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS > > Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA > > 219 1/2 N. Main Street > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > [log in to unmask] > www.quinnevans.com > v 734.663.5888 > f 734.663.5044 > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:26:21 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: William Gould <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3128066782_1939346_MIME_Part" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3128066782_1939346_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 2/13/03 8:57 AM, Ken Follett at [log in to unmask] wrote: Several preservationeers have inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few days... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en Gotcha! --MS_Mac_OE_3128066782_1939346_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: BP On?</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> on 2/13/03 8:57 AM, Ken Follett at [log in to unmask] wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Several preservationeers have= inquired of me back channel that they have not seen any BP mail in a few da= ys... so... this is an histo presto test. Is anyone out there? ][<en</FON= T></FONT> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Gotcha! </BODY> </HTML> --MS_Mac_OE_3128066782_1939346_MIME_Part-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:40:16 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Decade old "IF" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > at least one certified graduate for > every park containing a historic structure by the year 2003." > Sounds like a plan to put everyone out of work. Up here the definition of a Consultant is anyone from more than 25 miles away who carries a case of slides. cp, "certifiable" in bc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:06:56 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Decade old "IF" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Down here they're people from more than 25 miles away with a R/W CD that has .ppf files on it and carrying a laptop and projector. -----Original Message----- From: Cuyler Page [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:40 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Decade old "IF" > at least one certified graduate for > every park containing a historic structure by the year 2003." > Sounds like a plan to put everyone out of work. Up here the definition of a Consultant is anyone from more than 25 miles away who carries a case of slides. cp, "certifiable" in bc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:22:49 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:38:03 EST > >In a message dated 2/11/2003 2:32:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[log in to unmask] writes: > > > A little resistance is normal, even to be desired. I think a cure is >within > > sight. > > >Nick, > >When does the transference begin? > >Ralph and Little Ralph It started last week. That will be $100 x 96 hours, please. Nick _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:38:24 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: john <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-368710996 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) --Apple-Mail-2-368710996 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Publish in the PTNews. The next issue Vol. 2, # 1 will be published in April 2003. The=20 deadline for submission is March 1st 2003. We are looking for the following types of submissions PTN members:=20 moving to new responsibilities, members receiving awards, letters,=20 articles, workshop dates, exhibits related to trades and building=20 technology, conferences and tours related to preservation trades,=20 training related to preservation trades, employment opportunities,=20 position available, positions sought, and volunteer opportunities. I hope BP is on and some of you can send me material of interest. If you would like to have this publication hand carried to your=20 doorstep join PTN and get on the member mailing list. Visit=20 www.ptn.org for membership information. On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 08:08 AM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 2/14/03 12:55:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > It will be nice to not meet any of you face to face so you can remain=20= > the imaginary characters of the inner e-mind. > > > > Ralph and I are tall, good-looking, wear tailored pin-stripe suits. I=20= > look like Clark Gable; Ralph looks like Gary Cooper.=A0 No need to > = meet.=A0 John N. Fugelso, Editor Preservation Trades News Letter "PTNEWS" 530 State Street Lancaster, PA 17601 [log in to unmask] --Apple-Mail-2-368710996 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 <center><bold><italic><fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Publish in the PTNews. </fontfamily></italic><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>The next issue Vol. 2, # 1 will be published in April 2003. The deadline for submission is March 1st 2003. </smaller></fontfamily></bold></center>We are looking for the following types of submissions PTN members: moving to new responsibilities, members receiving awards<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>, letters, articles, workshop dates, </fontfamily>exhibits related to trades and building technology, conferences and tours related to preservation trades, training related to preservation trades, employment opportunities, position available, positions sought, and volunteer opportunities. I hope BP is on and some of you can send me material of interest. =20 If you would like to have this publication hand carried to your doorstep join PTN and get on the member mailing list. Visit www.ptn.org for membership information. On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 08:08 AM, Met History wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/14/03 12:55:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily> It will be nice to not meet any of you face to face so you can remain the imaginary characters of the inner e-mind. <fontfamily><param>Times New = Roman</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>Ralph and I are tall, good-looking, wear tailored pin-stripe suits. I look like Clark Gable; Ralph looks like Gary Cooper.=A0 No need to meet.=A0 </smaller></color></fontfamily></excerpt>John N. Fugelso, Editor Preservation Trades News Letter "PTNEWS" 530 State Street Lancaster, PA 17601 [log in to unmask] --Apple-Mail-2-368710996-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:14:27 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_78.385fdf0a.2b7e9a13_boundary" --part1_78.385fdf0a.2b7e9a13_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/14/2003 1:23:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > It started last week. That will be $100 x 96 hours, please. > > Nick > Nick, Is that the total contract price, for all work through completion; or just an invoice for services provided to date? [There's a right answer to this question.] My checkbook wants to know. I also will require notarized 1) affidavit of final release of liens and 2) notarized statement to verify transfer of tranference. I'm beginning to think you're kinda cute, so maybe it IS working. Ralph --part1_78.385fdf0a.2b7e9a13_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/14/2003 1:23:15 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It started last week. That will= be $100 x 96 hours, please.<BR> <BR> Nick<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Nick,<BR> <BR> Is that the total contract price, for all work through completion; or just a= n invoice for services provided to date? [There's a right answer to this que= stion.] My checkbook wants to know. I also will require notarize= d 1) affidavit of final release of liens and 2) notarized statement to verif= y transfer of tranference. <BR> <BR> I'm beginning to think you're kinda cute, so maybe it IS working. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_78.385fdf0a.2b7e9a13_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:20:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: David Via <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry Ralph, this is DAVID working down here in Florida. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:31:18 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Epperly <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PLease do not send anymore E-Mails to this web address..... Thank You... On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 06:20 PM, David Via wrote: > Sorry Ralph, this is DAVID working down here in Florida. > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:34:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_90.327cb23d.2b7f011b_boundary" --part1_90.327cb23d.2b7f011b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/14/2003 9:20:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Sorry Ralph, this is DAVID working down here in Florida. > David, In that case, I forgive you. The other david must be busy with his dog. In the meantime, would you send up a couple of buckets of steam? We're freezing up here. Ralph --part1_90.327cb23d.2b7f011b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/14/2003 9:20:37 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Sorry Ralph, this is DAVID work= ing down here in Florida.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> David,<BR> <BR> In that case, I forgive you. The other david must be busy with his dog= . In the meantime, would you send up a couple of buckets of steam? We'= re freezing up here.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_90.327cb23d.2b7f011b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 22:26:48 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: William Gould <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Iraq response Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3128106408_2731890_MIME_Part" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3128106408_2731890_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Is it our duty? --MS_Mac_OE_3128106408_2731890_MIME_Part Content-type: multipart/appledouble; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3128106405_2761980_MIME_Part" --MS_Mac_OE_3128106405_2761980_MIME_Part Content-type: application/applefile; name="Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-disposition: attachment AAUWBwACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAJAAAAPgAAACAAAAADAAAAXgAAABsAAAAC AAAAeQAAA8xURVhUdHR4dAEAANwCwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEZ3ZDsgW0Z3ZDsgVGhl IFdoaXRlIEhvdXNlXQAAAQAAAAOaAAACmgAAADIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAKWACEAAAAAAA8ADBwjAQAADAAAAAAAAAAAAAYADwAMHCMAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAFgAPAAwc IwEAAAwAAAAAAAAAAAAaAA8ADBwjAAAADAAAAAAAAAAAADUADwAMHCMBAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAA OwAPAAwcIwAAAAwAAAAAAAAAAABfAA8ADBwjAQAADAAAAAAAAAAAAGgADwAMHCMAAAAMAAAA AAAAAAAAhQALAAkABAAAAAkAAAAAAAAAAACIAA8ADBwjAQAADAAAAAAAAAAAAI4ADwAMHCMA AAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAtgAPAAwcIwEAAAwAAAAAAAAAAADEAA8ADBwjAAAADAAAAAAAAAAAAM8A DwAMHCMBAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAA1QAPAAwcIwAAAAwAAAAAAAAAAAD1AA8ADBwjAQAADAAAAAAA AAAAAPkADwAMHCMAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAB5wAPAAwcIwEAAAwAAAAAAAAAAAHwAA8ADBwjAAAA DAAAAAAAAAAAAgsACwAJB9EAAAAKAAAAAAAAAAACMAAPAAwcIwAAAAwAAAAAAAAAAAIyAAsA CQfRAAAACgAAAAAAAAAAAl8ADwAMHCMAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAACYgALAAkH0QAAAAoAAAAAAAAA AAJyAA8ADBwjAAAADAAAAAAAAAAAAnUACwAJB9EAAAAKAAAAAAAAAAAE2wAPAAwcIwAAAAwA AAAAAAAAAATeAAsACQfRAAAACgAAAAAAAAAABPcADwAMHCMAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAE+QALAAkH 0QAAAAoAAAAAAAAAAAUqAA8ADBwjAAAADAAAAAAAAAAABS0ACwAJB9EAAAAKAAAAAAAAAAAF RgAPAAwcIwAAAAwAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAADmgAAApoAAAAyBd+oAARWAAAAHAAyAABzdHlsAAAA CgCA//8AAAAABeIV7A== --MS_Mac_OE_3128106405_2761980_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; name="Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]"; x-mac-creator="74747874"; x-mac-type="54455854" Content-disposition: attachment Content-transfer-encoding: base64 RnJvbTogTUVTU0ZPNEBhb2wuY29tDVRvOiA8dW5kaXNjbG9zZWQtcmVjaXBpZW50czo7Pg1E YXRlOiBUaHVyc2RheSwgSmFudWFyeSAzMCwgMjAwMyAxMDozNSBBTQ1TdWJqZWN0OiBGd2Q6 IFtGd2Q6IFRoZSBXaGl0ZSBIb3VzZV0NDSANDUZyb206ICJCb2IgS2FudG9yIiA8Ym9iX2th bnRvckBmYW5uaWVtYWUuY29tPg1Pcmdhbml6YXRpb246IEZhbm5pZSBNYWUNRGF0ZTogVHVl LCAyOCBKYW4gMjAwMyAwNjozMTozNCAtMDUwMA1UbzogIlV3ZSBLLiBTYXJ0b3JpIiA8dXdl QGZhc3RyYXgubmV0PiwgInBldGVyIGh1Y2tpbnMiIDxQZXRlckh1Y2tpbnNAbXNuLmNvbT4s ICJIYXJyeSBTIFN0b3V0IiA8SGFycnkuU3RvdXRAeWFsZS5lZHU+LCAiTWFyayBNZXNzaWVy IiA8bWVzc2ZvNEBhb2wuY29tPiwgIk1pZ3VlbCBKb3NlIE1hdG9zIiA8bWptYXRvc0BubGRj Lm9yZz4sICJTaGFyb24gTSBHb3dlbiIgPHNoYXJvbl9tX2dvd2VuQGZhbm5pZW1hZS5jb20+ DVN1YmplY3Q6IFtGd2Q6IFRoZSBXaGl0ZSBIb3VzZV0NDSANDVdoYXRldmVyIHlvdXIgb3Bp bmlvbiwgbWFrZSBpdCBrbm93bi4gDUl0IHB1dHMgeW91IHJpZ2h0IHRocm91Z2ggdG8gdGhl IFdoaXRlIEhvdXNlLiANDUEgY2FsbCBmb3IgcGVhY2UgDQ1UaGUgQnVzaCBXaGl0ZSBIb3Vz ZSBoYXMgYW4gIm9waW5pb24iIGxpbmUgZm9yIHlvdSB0byBjYWxsLiBTbyBjYWxsIGFuZCBn aXZlIHlvdXIgb3BpbmlvbiBvZiB0aGUgcHJvcG9zZWQgd2FyIGluIElyYXEuIFRoZSBsaW5l IG9ubHkgYWNjZXB0cyBjYWxscyBmcm9tIDktNSBFU1QuLCBNb25kYXkgdGhydSBGcmlkYXku IEp1c3QgY2FsbCB0aGUgV2hpdGUgSG91c2UgYXQgMjAyLTQ1Ni0xMTExLiBBIG1hY2hpbmUg d2lsbCBkZXRhaW4geW91IGZvciBvbmx5IGEgbW9tZW50IGFuZCB0aGVuIGEgcGxlYXNhbnQg bGl2ZSBvcGVyYXRvciB3aWxsIHRoYW5rIHlvdSBmb3Igc2F5aW5nICJJIG9wcG9zZSIgb3Ig IkkgYXBwcm92ZS4iIEl0IHdpbGwgb25seSB0YWtlIG1pbnV0ZXMuIE5vdGUgdGhhdCB0aGUg d2Vla2VuZHMgYXJlIGNsb3NlZCBmb3IgY2FsbHMuIFRoZSBwcmVzaWRlbnQgaGFzIHNhaWQg dGhhdCBoZSB3YW50cyB0byBrbm93IHdoYXQgdGhlIEFtZXJpY2FuIHBlb3BsZSBhcmUgdGhp bmtpbmcuIExldCBoaW0ga25vdy4gVGltZSBpcyBydW5uaW5nIG91dC4gVGhlbiBwbGVhc2Ug Zm9yd2FyZCB0aGlzIGUtbWFpbCB0byBhdCBsZWFzdCBmaXZlIHBlb3BsZSByaWdodCBhd2F5 LiANDVRlbGwgdGhlbSB3aGF0IHlvdSB0aGluazogDTEgUEhPTkUgQ0FMTCBFUVVBTFMgMTAt MjAgUEVPUExFIFdITyBESUROJ1QgQ0FMTC4gDQ1QTEVBU0UgUEFTUyBPTiBUTyBGUklFTkRT IA0= --MS_Mac_OE_3128106405_2761980_MIME_Part-- --MS_Mac_OE_3128106408_2731890_MIME_Part-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 22:37:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Irack response: (Re: file attachments on B-P) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3b.33865e20.2b7f0fe5_boundary" --part1_3b.33865e20.2b7f0fe5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we should block them on B-P. Dan, Ken .... Estelle? --part1_3b.33865e20.2b7f0fe5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">I think we should block them on B-P. Dan,=20= Ken .... Estelle? </FONT></HTML> --part1_3b.33865e20.2b7f0fe5_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:10:54 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Now that you mention it, real limestone isn't what it used to be... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >Hey man, have you not seen the "X-Files"? > >Nick: We stopped watching the X-files as it occurs during dinner. Eating >while watching bodies with alien maggots ouzing out of them did not do much >for the appetite. I had not so much of a problem, but the cook did protest >and I was afraid that we would never again have hot meals. It had not >occured >to me that missing the program would have a serious impact on my histo >presto >career. ][<en When it comes to preservation, never underestimate the value of seemingly arcane knowledge Nick and the Nice Guys _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 08:36:21 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Preservationeers in Florida ? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A preservationeer who's work and skills I respect is planning to move to Florida. If you have any employment suggestions that within or related to our noble profession, please let me know, back channel. -jc On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 08:20 PM, David Via wrote: > Sorry Ralph, this is DAVID working down here in Florida. > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:45:25 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Now that you mention it, real limestone isn't what it used to be... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/15/2003 9:10:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > When it comes to preservation, never underestimate the > value of seemingly arcane knowledge > > Nick and the Nice Guys Nick, An excellent point. If you part your hair just right, maybe no one will notice. Ralph and the 7th Graders PS-- Regards to Sharpshooter and the Oneliners -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:48:39 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Preservationeers in Florida ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/15/2003 9:36:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > A preservationeer who's work and skills I respect is planning to move to Florida. If you have any employment suggestions that within or related to our noble profession, please let me know, back channel. John, As I understand it, the Search for the Early Bird Special is a booming business down there. No doubt the locals could use some help from a skilled field researcher. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:52:05 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7b.a298ad6.2b7fae15_boundary" --part1_7b.a298ad6.2b7fae15_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HERE signed Rarely Speaks --part1_7b.a298ad6.2b7fae15_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">HERE<BR> <BR> signed Rarely Speaks</FONT></HTML> --part1_7b.a298ad6.2b7fae15_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 08:54:08 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin Powell. Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term damage than words. But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. -jc On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: > Is it our duty? > > <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:10:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Mousketioneers in Florida ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_182.16f9820c.2b7fb251_boundary" --part1_182.16f9820c.2b7fb251_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/15/03 9:35:40 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > If you have any employment suggestions that within or related to our noble > profession, please let me know, Playing Chip, or Dale, at the Disney World restaurants. The giant, furry costumes hot in the summer, though. --part1_182.16f9820c.2b7fb251_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/15/03 9:35:40 AM, johncalla= [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">If you have any employment sugg= estions that within or related to our noble profession, please let me know,<= /BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Playing Chip, or Dale, at the Disney World restaurants. The giant, fur= ry costumes hot in the summer, though. </FONT></HTML> --part1_182.16f9820c.2b7fb251_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:17:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ef.2004d5d.2b7fb425_boundary" --part1_1ef.2004d5d.2b7fb425_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/15/03 9:53:21 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > Before all you peaceniks jump on me, Don't flatter yourself. Signed, Don't Blame Me I Voted For Goldwater --part1_1ef.2004d5d.2b7fb425_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/15/03 9:53:21 AM, johncalla= [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Before all you peaceniks jump o= n me, </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Don't flatter yourself. Signed, Don't Blame Me I Voted For= Goldwater</FONT></HTML> --part1_1ef.2004d5d.2b7fb425_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:35:05 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7b.a2b4e1c.2b7fb829_boundary" --part1_7b.a2b4e1c.2b7fb829_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/15/2003 9:53:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? No. By what is > right. Not that this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I > would > consider good leadership I quite agree, but I have been deeply swayed by > Colin Powell. I think he's a good guy, too. > > Before all you peaceniks Include me out of that list jump on me, I am > deeply ashamed to admit that I have never been one to claim that violence > doesn't solve problems. This is nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes it > solves them, and sometimes it doesn't, which the lily-livered commie > weasels (and most female personages, in my experience) refuse to recognize. > As my father used to say that they said in the Army, "It depends upon the > situation and the terrain." My life experience provides more than ample > proof that violence solve problems real good. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. > Sometimes with less humiliation and long term damage than words. There's ANOTHER thing that female personages don't > always recognize. > > But I am suitably embarrassed. Fuhgeddaboudit. Please don't hurt me. Stop > whining, and go kick some (deserving) ass. Valentine's Day is over, and > business is business. No More Mr. Sensitive --part1_7b.a2b4e1c.2b7fb829_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/15/2003 9:53:21 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Do you want the President to de= cide War or Peace by polls? <B>No. By what is right.</B> Not that this= president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would<BR> consider good leadership <B>I quite agree</B>, but I have been deeply swayed= by Colin Powell. <B>I think he's a good guy, too.</B><BR> <BR> Before all you peaceniks <B>Include me out of that list</B> jump on me, I am= deeply ashamed to admit that I have never been one to claim that violence d= oesn't solve problems. <B>This is nothing to be ashamed of. Some= times it solves them, and sometimes it doesn't, which the lily-livered commi= e weasels (and most female personages, in my experience) refuse to recognize= . As my father used to say that they said in the Army, "It depends upo= n the situation and the terrain." </B>My life experience provides more than=20= ample proof that violence solve problems real good. <B>Sometimes yes, someti= mes no. </B> Sometimes with less humiliation and long term </BLOCKQUOTE= >damage than words. <B>There's ANOTHER thing that female personages do= n't <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">always recognize.</B><BR> <BR> But I am suitably embarrassed. <B>Fuhgeddaboudit.</B> Please don't hur= t me. <B>Stop whining, and go kick some (deserving) ass. Valentine's D= ay is over, and business is business.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00= 0000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>No More Mr. Sensitive</B>= <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_7b.a2b4e1c.2b7fb829_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:17:03 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-461030189 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2-461030189 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sometimes the only thing worse than voting for the guy who lost is=20 voting for the guy who won. Think it'll get better when the guy is a=20 gal? -jc On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 09:17 AM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 2/15/03 9:53:21 AM, [log in to unmask] = writes: > > Before all you peaceniks jump on me, > > > > Don't flatter yourself.=A0=A0 Signed,=A0 Don't Blame Me I Voted For = Goldwater= --Apple-Mail-2-461030189 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sometimes the only thing worse than voting for the guy who lost is voting for the guy who won. Think it'll get better when the guy is a gal? -jc On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 09:17 AM, Met History wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/15/03 9:53:21 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>Before all you peaceniks jump on me, <fontfamily><param>Times New = Roman</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>Don't flatter yourself.=A0=A0 Signed,=A0 Don't Blame Me I Voted For = Goldwater</smaller></color></fontfamily></excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2-461030189-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:20:44 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15.a355466.2b80092c_boundary" --part1_15.a355466.2b80092c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/15/2003 3:16:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Sometimes the only thing worse than voting for the guy who lost is > voting for the guy who won. Think it'll get better when the guy is a > gal? > John, How could you even question that? Just proves you are a pro-violence sex pig. Ralph --part1_15.a355466.2b80092c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/15/2003 3:16:25 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Sometimes the only thing worse=20= than voting for the guy who lost is <BR> voting for the guy who won. Think it'll get better when the guy is a <= BR> gal?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> John,<BR> <BR> How could you even question that? Just proves you are a pro-violence s= ex pig.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_15.a355466.2b80092c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:52:26 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Donald B. White" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Consultants MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message text written by cp in bc >Up here the definition of a Consultant is anyone from more than 25 miles= away who carries a case of slides. < I heard it was a guy who knows a hundred different ways to make love, but= doesn't know any actual women. = Sign me, adding consult to conjury -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:59:29 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12-467176534 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-12-467176534 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'm a sex pig?! What the hell is that? It sounds good and bad at the=20= same time! Pro violence?! You're an insensitive deaf pig! I'm not pro=20 violence...I'm just against getting beaten up or abused. How can I question that? 'Cause I've met some really mean women...not=20= many, but just enough to be cautious. What flew up your donkey? And stop calling me names! (I'm gonna go write in my journal.) -jc On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 03:20 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/15/2003 3:16:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Sometimes the only thing worse than voting for the guy who lost is > voting for the guy who won.=A0 Think it'll get better when the guy is = a > gal? > > > John, > > How could you even question that?=A0 Just proves you are a = pro-violence=20 > sex pig. > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-12-467176534 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm a sex pig?! What the hell is that? It sounds good and bad at the same time! Pro violence?! You're an insensitive deaf pig! I'm not pro violence...I'm just against getting beaten up or abused. =20 How can I question that? 'Cause I've met some really mean women...not many, but just enough to be cautious. What flew up your donkey? And stop calling me names! (I'm gonna go write in my journal.) -jc On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 03:20 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/15/2003 3:16:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>Sometimes the only thing worse than voting for the guy who lost is voting for the guy who won.=A0 Think it'll get better when the guy is a gal? John, How could you even question that?=A0 Just proves you are a pro-violence sex pig. Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-12-467176534-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:00:38 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Consultants In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know a woman! AND I've got slides! -jc On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 03:52 PM, Donald B. White wrote: > Message text written by cp in bc > >> Up here the definition of a Consultant is anyone from more than 25 >> miles > away who carries a case of slides. > < > > I heard it was a guy who knows a hundred different ways to make love, > but > doesn't know any actual women. > > Sign me, adding consult to conjury > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:22:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Consultants MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_162.1be5c526.2b8017bd_boundary" --part1_162.1be5c526.2b8017bd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/15/2003 4:53:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I heard it was a guy who knows a hundred different ways to make love, but > doesn't know any actual women. > I used to resemble that remark. Now I know some women, but it doesn't matter. Ralph --part1_162.1be5c526.2b8017bd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/15/2003 4:53:17 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I heard it was a guy who knows=20= a hundred different ways to make love, but<BR> doesn't know any actual women. <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I used to resemble that remark. Now I know some women, but it doesn't=20= matter.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_162.1be5c526.2b8017bd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:28:15 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f6.28b7cc9d.2b8018ff_boundary" --part1_f6.28b7cc9d.2b8018ff_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/15/2003 4:59:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You're an insensitive deaf pig! I'm not pro > violence...I'm just against getting beaten up or abused. > IF YOU THINBK I"M SUCH A DEAF PIG (as opposed to a Def Leppard or a Pearl Jam, or some other damn thing), WHY DON"T YOU SPEAK UP? OR ARE YOU TRYING TO OPPRESS ME BY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MY DISABILITY, I MEAN HANDICAP, I MEAN AUDITORY CONDITION? It's not enough to be against YOUR getting beaten up or abused, even if it is by women, because you are one of the oppressors in your capacity as a Penis Person. You have to be against THEM getting beaten up, or threatened, spoken to in an unkind tone. OK, bye. Young Miss Ralph is shrieking for a ride, and I can hear that. Ralph --part1_f6.28b7cc9d.2b8018ff_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/15/2003 4:59:24 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You're an insensitive deaf pig!= I'm not pro <BR> violence...I'm just against getting beaten up or abused.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> IF YOU THINBK I"M SUCH A DEAF PIG (as opposed to a Def Leppard or a Pearl Ja= m, or some other damn thing), WHY DON"T YOU SPEAK UP? OR ARE YOU TRYING TO O= PPRESS ME BY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MY DISABILITY, I MEAN HANDICAP, I MEAN AUDI= TORY CONDITION? <BR> <BR> It's not enough to be against YOUR getting beaten up or abused, even if it i= s by women, because you are one of the oppressors in your capacity as a Peni= s Person. You have to be against THEM getting beaten up, or threatened= , spoken to in an unkind tone.<BR> <BR> OK, bye. Young Miss Ralph is shrieking for a ride, and I can hear that= .<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_f6.28b7cc9d.2b8018ff_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:42:51 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Lisa Sasser <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Decade old "IF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Came across this and thought I'd ask, did it happen? John, The answer to that is an unequivocal well yes, kinda, sort of. . . In 1993, the National Park Service implemented the Preservation and Skills Training (PAST) program for NPS maintenance employees at the WG/3-7 levels. It was intended to supplement the existing 3-year preservation training program at the Historic Preservation Training Center in Frederick, MD, (the former WPTC). The NPS 2001-2002 training catalog describes the program as follows: "During this two-year program participants receive basic instruction in carpentry, masonry, and/or painting and will develop preservation skills in one trade to the apprentice or intermediate level. Group training sessions will be held out of the park at approximately six-month intervals. During the remaining months, a mentor will work in the trainee’s park to provide hands on instruction on repairing and maintaining park historic structures. Participants complete a total of 640 hours of training during the two-year period." The PAST program was modeled, in part, on a regional preservation skills training program that the NPS Northeast Region developed and managed from about 1977-1995, based on mentoring, project work, and independent studies by program participants. A number of graduates of the NE Region program are still around years later, having progressed very successfully in their careers to being Chiefs of Maintenance and park-based Preservation Specialists. The NE Region program was shut down, due to a Washington Office determination that there could only be one preservation skills training program, which had to be managed on a servicewide basis. (A proposal to revive the NE Region preservation skills trainin program in 2001 was dismissed by regional office staff on the basis that "maintenance workers don't need preservation training"). I was one of the15 mentors for the first PAST group, and I think it was very successful in one respect. Most of the people that came into the program were incredibly eager and receptive to the idea of learning new skills. They were smart, and worked really hard, and picked up really fast on everything from preservation philosophy to mixing the right repointing mortar. They got a taste of the "why" and "how" of doing preservation work, went back to their parks, and in most instances, ended up right back where they were -- mowing, painting, and cleaning campgrounds. There is probably no other outcome that could be anticipated given NPS funding levels, but it's also a classic case of my contention that it's much easier to train people than bureaucracies. The NPS manages more that 24,000 historic structures . . . there's plenty of work out there. Lisa > [Original Message] > From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Date: 2/14/2003 9:58:02 AM > Subject: Decade old "IF > > Been reading a lot of thoughts about HSR's and CLR's. Came across this > and thought I'd ask, did it happen? > > "If in 1993 the program is successful in enrolling a class of 30, and > the preservation skills training is continued for 10 years, the > national park system will have at least one certified graduate for > every park containing a historic structure by the year 2003." > > (I wonder if the author will remember writing this.) > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 07:46:53 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-524020424 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2-524020424 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'm not the sensitive one here Ralph! And I'm really sorry about your=20= condition(s). And I ain't oppressin' no one, neither. And my singular=20= ocular pocket serpent has been been appropriately proprietarily=20 restrained for decades. And who assigned the task of setting or=20 explaining the minimum requirements for non oppressor status? Isn't it=20= enough that we send you our dues and have no idea what you do with them? Okay, my vision often is limited to assuring that I am not beaten up. =20= But if I am beaten up, I cannot and/or will not be of much use to=20 anyone who needs assistance to not be beaten up. On the other hand, if=20= I am beaten up, the easiest thing to do to assure survival is to be=20 helpful to the beater, (given that I am a self-centered SOB.) =20 Therefore, it is in the interest of the oppressed, penis or no, that I=20= not be beaten up, nor be a suitable candidate to be beaten up. So put=20= your rubber hose away! Huh? Yeah. And it doesn't matter if the beating comes in words,=20 fists, guns, bombs, sanctions, intimidation, threats, coersive=20 contracts, debate, yelling, screaming, crying, or whatever. When one=20 resists being forced to submit to the will of another, and receives the=20= consequences...and they are unpleasant... Before I take this seriously, I'm gonna send it and get some work done.=20= So I don't get beaten. -jc On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 04:28 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/15/2003 4:59:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > You're an insensitive deaf pig!=A0 I'm not pro > violence...I'm just against getting beaten up or abused. > > > > IF YOU THINBK I"M SUCH A DEAF PIG (as opposed to a Def Leppard or a=20 > Pearl Jam, or some other damn thing), WHY DON"T YOU SPEAK UP? OR ARE=20= > YOU TRYING TO OPPRESS ME BY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MY DISABILITY, I MEAN=20= > HANDICAP, I MEAN AUDITORY CONDITION?=A0 > > It's not enough to be against YOUR getting beaten up or abused, even=20= > if it is by women, because you are one of the oppressors in your=20 > capacity as a Penis Person.=A0 You have to be against THEM getting=20 > beaten up, or threatened, spoken to in an unkind tone. > > OK, bye.=A0 Young Miss Ralph is shrieking for a ride, and I can hear=20= > that. > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-2-524020424 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm not the sensitive one here Ralph! And I'm really sorry about your condition(s). And I ain't oppressin' no one, neither. And my singular ocular pocket serpent has been been appropriately proprietarily restrained for decades. And who assigned the task of setting or explaining the minimum requirements for non oppressor status? Isn't it enough that we send you our dues and have no idea what you do with them? Okay, my vision often is limited to assuring that I am not beaten up.=20 But if I am beaten up, I cannot and/or will not be of much use to anyone who needs assistance to not be beaten up. On the other hand, if I am beaten up, the easiest thing to do to assure survival is to be helpful to the beater, (given that I am a self-centered SOB.)=20 Therefore, it is in the interest of the oppressed, penis or no, that I not be beaten up, nor be a suitable candidate to be beaten up. So put your rubber hose away! Huh? Yeah. And it doesn't matter if the beating comes in words, fists, guns, bombs, sanctions, intimidation, threats, coersive contracts, debate, yelling, screaming, crying, or whatever. When one resists being forced to submit to the will of another, and receives the consequences...and they are unpleasant... Before I take this seriously, I'm gonna send it and get some work done. So I don't get beaten. -jc On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 04:28 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/15/2003 4:59:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>You're an insensitive deaf pig!=A0 I'm not pro violence...I'm just against getting beaten up or abused. IF YOU THINBK I"M SUCH A DEAF PIG (as opposed to a Def Leppard or a Pearl Jam, or some other damn thing), WHY DON"T YOU SPEAK UP? OR ARE YOU TRYING TO OPPRESS ME BY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MY DISABILITY, I MEAN HANDICAP, I MEAN AUDITORY CONDITION?=A0 It's not enough to be against YOUR getting beaten up or abused, even if it is by women, because you are one of the oppressors in your capacity as a Penis Person.=A0 You have to be against THEM getting beaten up, or threatened, spoken to in an unkind tone. OK, bye.=A0 Young Miss Ralph is shrieking for a ride, and I can hear that. Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2-524020424-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:47:37 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_124.1e79a15b.2b8128b9_boundary" --part1_124.1e79a15b.2b8128b9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/16/2003 8:46:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I'm not the sensitive one here Ralph! This reminds me of the 1st grade > contest to see who could hit softer: the 1st guy barely taps the 2nd, and > the 2nd pounds the poop out of the 1st and says "I Lost!." And I'm really > sorry about your condition(s). What? Speak up! And I ain't oppressin' no > one, neither. Just by being a male, you're oppressing half the world. And > my singular > ocular pocket serpent has been been appropriately proprietarily > restrained for decades. Whose hasn't (except those who haven't had them > that long)? And who assigned the task of setting or explaining the minimum > requirements for non oppressor status? Somebody has to, and if I don't do > it, the girls will, and their standards will be far harder to meet than > mine, don't you think? Isn't it enough that we send you our dues and have > no idea what you do with them? You might think that, and I see by my > ledgers that you are among those who haven't yet coughed up the required > amount. Nevertheless, I have continued to provide services despite certain > members' failure to remit. > > Okay, my vision often is limited to assuring that I am not beaten up. I > certainly am not going to fault you for that; I spend my whole life trying > to avoid screwing up and getting yelled at, which prevents me from doing, > not just anything wrong, but anything at all. I used to work with a guy > who would come in in the morning and say "Do something, even if it's > wrong," I could never understand that. But if I am beaten up, I cannot > and/or will not be of much use to anyone who needs assistance to not be > beaten up. Sounds reasonable. On the other hand, if I am beaten up, the > easiest thing to do to assure survival is to be helpful to the beater, > (given that I am a self-centered SOB.) Also sounds reasonable. Therefore, > it is in the interest of the oppressed, penis or no, that I > not be beaten up, nor be a suitable candidate to be beaten up. Just don't > make any mistakes, ever, and you'll be fine. What's the problem? So put > your rubber hose away! It's rubber? THAT'S what's wrong with it? > > Huh? Yeah. And it doesn't matter if the beating comes in words, > fists, guns, bombs, sanctions, intimidation, threats, coersive > contracts, debate, yelling, screaming, crying, or whatever. When one > resists being forced to submit to the will of another, and receives the > consequences...and they are unpleasant... > > Before I take this seriously, I'm gonna send it and get some work done. > So I don't get beaten. > OK, some subset of the Little Ralphs have decided that it's time for > lunch. Enough male bovine fecal matter outta me for the time being. > -jc > Ralph --part1_124.1e79a15b.2b8128b9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/16/2003 8:46:22 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm not the sensitive one here=20= Ralph! <B>This reminds me of the 1st grade contest to see who could hit soft= er: the 1st guy barely taps the 2nd, and the 2nd pounds the poop out of the=20= 1st and says "I Lost!."</B> And I'm really sorry about your condition(s).&nb= sp; <B>What? Speak up! </B>And I ain't oppressin' no one, neither. <B>Just b= y being a male, you're oppressing half the world.</B> And my singular <BR> ocular pocket serpent has been been appropriately proprietarily <BR> restrained for decades. <B>Whose hasn't (except those who haven't had them&n= bsp; that long)? </B> And who assigned the task of setting or explainin= g the minimum requirements for non oppressor status? <B>Somebody has to, and= if I don't do it, the girls will, and their standards will be far harder to= meet than mine, don't you think?</B> Isn't it enough that we send you our d= ues and have no idea what you do with them? <B>You might think that, and I s= ee by my ledgers that you are among those who haven't yet coughed up the req= uired amount. Nevertheless, I have continued to provide services despi= te certain members' failure to remit. </B><BR> <BR> Okay, my vision often is limited to assuring that I am not beaten up. =20= <B>I certainly am not going to fault you for that; I spend my whole life try= ing to avoid screwing up and getting yelled at, which prevents me from doing= , not just anything wrong, but anything at all. I used to work with a=20= guy who would come in in the morning and say "Do something, even if it's wro= ng," I could never understand that. </B>But if I am beaten up, I= cannot and/or will not be of much use to anyone who needs assistance to not= be beaten up. <B>Sounds reasonable.</B> On the other hand, if I am beaten u= p, the easiest thing to do to assure survival is to be helpful to the beater= , (given that I am a self-centered SOB.) <B>Also sounds reasonable. </= B>Therefore, it is in the interest of the oppressed, penis or no, that I <BR= > not be beaten up, nor be a suitable candidate to be beaten up. <B>Just= don't make any mistakes, ever, and you'll be fine. What's the problem? </B>= So put your rubber hose away! <B>It's rubber? THAT'S what's wrong with= it?</B><BR> <BR> Huh? Yeah. And it doesn't matter if the beating comes in words,=20= <BR> fists, guns, bombs, sanctions, intimidation, threats, coersive <BR> contracts, debate, yelling, screaming, crying, or whatever. When one <= BR> resists being forced to submit to the will of another, and receives the <BR> consequences...and they are unpleasant...<BR> <BR> Before I take this seriously, I'm gonna send it and get some work done. <BR> So I don't get beaten.<BR> <B>OK, some subset of the Little Ralphs have decided that it's time fo= r lunch. Enough male bovine fecal matter outta me for the time being.<= /B><BR> -jc<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><B>Ralph</B><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_124.1e79a15b.2b8128b9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:24:46 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NdYQz4sNYpaC4nn+aXv4/w)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_NdYQz4sNYpaC4nn+aXv4/w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT While I don't necessarily want to go to war, and yes Bush can be and is a cowboy, I have a really hard time dealing with what I consider to be pussyfooting around by the UN. John, you're right. Sometimes the only way to prevent violence is to be violent, because the only way some people hear what you're saying is to hit them upside the head. Let the squabbling begin. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: John Callan To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin Powell. Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term damage than words. But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. -jc On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: > Is it our duty? > > <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> --Boundary_(ID_NdYQz4sNYpaC4nn+aXv4/w) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>While I don't necessarily want to go to war, and yes Bush can be and is a cowboy, I have a really hard time dealing with what I consider to be pussyfooting around by the UN. John, you're right. Sometimes the only way to prevent violence is to be violent, because the only way some people hear what you're saying is to hit them upside the head.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Let the squabbling begin.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that<BR>this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would<BR>consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin Powell.<BR><BR>Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that<BR>I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems.<BR>My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve<BR>problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term<BR>damage than words.<BR><BR>But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me.<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR><BR>On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote:<BR><BR>> Is it our duty?<BR>><BR>> <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]><BR><BR>--<BR>To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the<BR>uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:<BR><<A href="http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html">http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html</A>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_NdYQz4sNYpaC4nn+aXv4/w)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:27:44 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_odR5Nyoe+Va6LhIP7dBBhQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_odR5Nyoe+Va6LhIP7dBBhQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response In a message dated 2/15/2003 9:53:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Before all you peaceniks Include me out of that list jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. This is nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes it solves them, and sometimes it doesn't, which the lily-livered commie weasels (and most female personages, in my experience While I am of the female persuasion, I do still recognize it - guess I'm not part of most.) refuse to recognize. As my father used to say that they said in the Army, "It depends upon the situation and the terrain." My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve problems real good. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term damage than words. There's ANOTHER thing that female personages don't always recognize. I repeat - as a representative of the female personages, thankfully we are not all alike! But I am suitably embarrassed. Fuhgeddaboudit. Please don't hurt me. Stop whining, and go kick some (deserving) ass. Valentine's Day is over, and business is business. No More Mr. Sensitive --Boundary_(ID_odR5Nyoe+Va6LhIP7dBBhQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:35 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV><FONT lang=0 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT face=Arial size=2>In a message dated 2/15/2003 9:53:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, </FONT><A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]"><FONT face=Arial size=2>[log in to unmask]</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2> writes:<BR></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"> <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial>Before all you peaceniks <B>Include me out of that list</B> jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. <B>This is nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes it solves them, and sometimes it doesn't, which the lily-livered commie </B></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><B>weasels (and most female personages, in my experience <FONT color=#008000>While I am of the female persuasion, I do still recognize it - guess I'm not part of most.</FONT>) refuse to recognize. As my father used to say that they said in the Army, "It depends upon the situation and the terrain." </B>My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve problems real good. <B>Sometimes yes, sometimes no. </B> Sometimes with less humiliation and long term </FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial size=2>damage than words. </FONT><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>There's ANOTHER thing that female personages don't </FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"><FONT face=Arial size=2>always recognize. <FONT color=#008000>I repeat - as a representative of the female personages, thankfully we are not all alike!</FONT></FONT></B><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial>But I am suitably embarrassed. <B>Fuhgeddaboudit.</B> Please don't hurt me. <B>Stop whining, and go kick some (deserving) ass. Valentine's Day is over, and business is business.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B></FONT></FONT><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT face=Arial><B>No More Mr. Sensitive</B><BR></FONT></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_odR5Nyoe+Va6LhIP7dBBhQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:29:03 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Consultants MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AbZN1La38nIWVMMacBmKoQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_AbZN1La38nIWVMMacBmKoQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sounds like engineers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald B. White I heard it was a guy who knows a hundred different ways to make love, but doesn't know any actual women. --Boundary_(ID_AbZN1La38nIWVMMacBmKoQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Sounds like engineers.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Donald B. White</A> </DIV><BR>I heard it was a guy who knows a hundred different ways to make love, but<BR>doesn't know any actual women. <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_AbZN1La38nIWVMMacBmKoQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:30:00 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Consultants MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_E/bXiQfFH3llPrVtKvewcg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_E/bXiQfFH3llPrVtKvewcg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sounds like a personal problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Callan To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:00 PM Subject: Re: Consultants I know a woman! AND I've got slides! -jc --Boundary_(ID_E/bXiQfFH3llPrVtKvewcg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Sounds like a personal problem.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:00 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Consultants</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>I know a woman! AND I've got slides!<BR><BR>-jc<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_E/bXiQfFH3llPrVtKvewcg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:33:10 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Score, Robert" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-7aab498e-ac7f-486a-babe-919784677bf3" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------=_NextPartTM-000-7aab498e-ac7f-486a-babe-919784677bf3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D689.1CB569F0" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D689.1CB569F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sung to the tune of "If you're happy and you know it") If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq. If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq. If the terrorists are frisky, Pakistan is looking shifty, North Korea is too risky, Bomb Iraq. If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq. If we think that someone's dissed us, bomb Iraq. So to hell with the inspections, Let's look tough for the elections, Close your mind and take directions, Bomb Iraq. It's pre-emptive non-aggression, bomb Iraq. To prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq. They've got weapons we can't see, And that's all the proof we need, If they're not there, they must be there, Bomb Iraq. If you never were elected, bomb Iraq. If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq. If you think Saddam's gone mad, With the weapons that he had, And he tried to kill your dad, Bomb Iraq. If corporate fraud is growin', bomb Iraq. If your ties to it are showin', bomb Iraq. If your politics are sleazy, And hiding that ain't easy, And your manhood's getting queasy, Bomb Iraq. Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq. For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq. Disagree? We'll call it treason, Let's make war not love this season, Even if we have no reason, Bomb Iraq. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D689.1CB569F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>Sung to the tune of "If you're happy and you know it")<BR><BR>If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.<BR>If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.<BR>If the terrorists are frisky,<BR>Pakistan is looking shifty,<BR>North Korea is too risky,<BR>Bomb Iraq.<BR><BR>If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.<BR>If we think that someone's dissed us, bomb Iraq.<BR>So to hell with the inspections,<BR>Let's look tough for the elections,<BR>Close your mind and take directions,<BR>Bomb Iraq.<BR><BR>It's pre-emptive non-aggression, bomb Iraq.<BR>To prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.<BR>They've got weapons we can't see,<BR>And that's all the proof we need,<BR>If they're not there, they must be there,<BR>Bomb Iraq.<BR><BR>If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.<BR>If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.<BR>If you think Saddam's gone mad,<BR>With the weapons that he had,<BR>And he tried to kill your dad,<BR>Bomb Iraq.<BR><BR>If corporate fraud is growin', bomb Iraq.<BR>If your ties to it are showin', bomb Iraq.<BR>If your politics are sleazy,<BR>And hiding that ain't easy,<BR>And your manhood's getting queasy,<BR>Bomb Iraq.<BR><BR>Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.<BR>For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.<BR>Disagree? We'll call it treason,<BR>Let's make war not love this season,<BR>Even if we have no reason,<BR>Bomb Iraq. <BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D689.1CB569F0-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-7aab498e-ac7f-486a-babe-919784677bf3-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:10:52 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Christopher Tavener <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Copper skylights I am still looking for help to find someone skilled in repairing copper skylights, 1920s vintage, for a project in Olympia, WA, a landmark building. Any thoughts? I think my message last week may have been lost in the roll call. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:18:18 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-615905456 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2-615905456 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Pam, we are in agreement. Except the "cowboy". I'm still trying to=20 hang on to my mythological heros and role models. Luckily no=20 politician and damn few Hollywood types have screwed around with=20 "Mountain Man". I suppose we know what we are talking about when we=20 call Bush and Regan "cowboys", but it isn't the same as "my heroes have=20= always been" and my "mama" didn't let me "grow up to be". Can you see=20= Regan or Bush in "High Noon"? (Maybe as one of the bad guys...a minor=20= one.) Mrs. Callan prefers me in my cowboy role...though she wouldn't admit=20 it...she doesn't like my roles in general. Don't think she's aware of=20= Mountain Man...he's kind of a nasty tempered loner...maybe she just=20 doesn't like him. Not many do. -jc On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 07:24 AM, Pam Stevenson wrote: > While I don't necessarily want to go to war, and yes Bush can be and=20= > is a cowboy, I have a really hard time dealing with what I consider to=20= > be pussyfooting around by the UN.=A0 John, you're right.=A0 Sometimes = the=20 > only way to prevent violence is to be violent, because the only way=20 > some people hear what you're saying is to hit them upside the head. > =A0 > Let the squabbling begin. > =A0 > - Pam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response > > Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls?=A0 Not that > this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would > consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin=20 > Powell. > > Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that > I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. > My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve > problems real good.=A0 Sometimes with less humiliation and long term > damage than words. > > But I am suitably embarrassed.=A0 Please don't hurt me. > > -jc > > > On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26=A0 PM, William Gould wrote: > > > Is it our duty? > > > > <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > --Apple-Mail-2-615905456 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pam, we are in agreement. Except the "cowboy". I'm still trying to hang on to my mythological heros and role models. Luckily no politician and damn few Hollywood types have screwed around with "Mountain Man". I suppose we know what we are talking about when we call Bush and Regan "cowboys", but it isn't the same as "my heroes have always been" and my "mama" didn't let me "grow up to be". Can you see Regan or Bush in "High Noon"? (Maybe as one of the bad guys...a minor one.) Mrs. Callan prefers me in my cowboy role...though she wouldn't admit it...she doesn't like my roles in general. Don't think she's aware of Mountain Man...he's kind of a nasty tempered loner...maybe she just doesn't like him. Not many do. -jc On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 07:24 AM, Pam Stevenson wrote: <excerpt><smaller>While I don't necessarily want to go to war, and yes Bush can be and is a cowboy, I have a really hard time dealing with what I consider to be pussyfooting around by the UN.=A0 John, you're right.=A0 Sometimes the only way to prevent violence is to be violent, because the only way some people hear what you're saying is to hit them upside the head.</smaller> =A0 <smaller>Let the squabbling begin.</smaller> =A0 <smaller>- Pam</smaller> ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>John Callan</color></underline> <bold>To:</bold> = <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS@MAELSTR= OM.STJOHNS.EDU</color></underline> <bold>Sent:</bold> Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls?=A0 Not that this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin Powell. Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve problems real good.=A0 Sometimes with less humiliation and long term damage than words. But I am suitably embarrassed.=A0 Please don't hurt me. -jc On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26=A0 PM, William Gould wrote: > Is it our duty? > > <<Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: = <<<underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>http://maelstrom.stjohns.= edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html</color></underline>> </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2-615905456-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:42:37 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_btUtUgeuLz5SQmqQ4Yg1mg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_btUtUgeuLz5SQmqQ4Yg1mg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT John - "High Noon"? I don't know. Can you see a president making a movie with a monkey? Oops - been there, done that. Actually, my overall problem with Bush is that it appears he's trying to return us to the isolationist period we were in over 100 years ago. We should do something about Hussein before he becomes another Hitler or worse, but it would be better to do so with the rest of the allies support. I think I shocked my husband over the weekend (the European point of view in the household - well, sort of European, seeing as the UK isn't part of the EU), when I expressed that I think we should do something in the Middle East. He still seems to respect me, but I have a feeling he thought I lean more toward the bleeding heart types. My cynicism is starting to really show. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: John Callan To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response Pam, we are in agreement. Except the "cowboy". I'm still trying to hang on to my mythological heros and role models. Luckily no politician and damn few Hollywood types have screwed around with "Mountain Man". I suppose we know what we are talking about when we call Bush and Regan "cowboys", but it isn't the same as "my heroes have always been" and my "mama" didn't let me "grow up to be". Can you see Regan or Bush in "High Noon"? (Maybe as one of the bad guys...a minor one.) Mrs. Callan prefers me in my cowboy role...though she wouldn't admit it... she doesn't like my roles in general. Don't think she's aware of Mountain Man... he's kind of a nasty tempered loner...maybe she just doesn't like him. Not many do. -jc On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 07:24 AM, Pam Stevenson wrote: While I don't necessarily want to go to war, and yes Bush can be and is a cowboy, I have a really hard time dealing with what I consider to be pussyfooting around by the UN. John, you're right. Sometimes the only way to prevent violence is to be violent, because the only way some people hear what you're saying is to hit them upside the head. Let the squabbling begin. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: John Callan To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin Powell. Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term damage than words. But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. -jc On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: > Is it our duty? > > <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> --Boundary_(ID_btUtUgeuLz5SQmqQ4Yg1mg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>John -</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>"High Noon"? I don't know. Can you see a president making a movie with a monkey? Oops - been there, done that. Actually, my overall problem with Bush is that it appears he's trying to return us to the isolationist period we were in over 100 years ago. We <STRONG>should </STRONG>do something about Hussein before he becomes another Hitler or worse, but it would be better to do so with the rest of the allies support. I think I shocked my husband over the weekend (the European point of view in the household - well, sort of European, seeing as the UK isn't part of the EU), when I expressed that I think we should do something in the Middle East. He still seems to respect me, but I have a feeling he thought I lean more toward the bleeding heart types. My cynicism is starting to really show.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2003 10:18 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV>Pam, we are in agreement. Except the "cowboy". I'm still trying to hang on to my </DIV> <DIV>mythological heros and role models. Luckily no politician and damn few Hollywood </DIV> <DIV>types have screwed around with "Mountain Man". I suppose we know what we are </DIV> <DIV>talking about when we call Bush and Regan "cowboys", but it isn't the same as </DIV> <DIV>"my heroes have always been" and my "mama" didn't let me "grow up to be". Can </DIV> <DIV>you see Regan or Bush in "High Noon"? (Maybe as one of the bad guys...a minor </DIV> <DIV>one.)<BR><BR>Mrs. Callan prefers me in my cowboy role...though she wouldn't admit it...</DIV> <DIV>she doesn't like my roles in general. Don't think she's aware of Mountain Man...</DIV> <DIV>he's kind of a nasty tempered loner...maybe she just doesn't like him. Not many do.</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><BR>-jc<BR><BR><BR>On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 07:24 AM, Pam Stevenson wrote:<BR><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE><?smaller>While I don't necessarily want to go to war, and yes Bush can be and is a cowboy, I have a really hard time dealing with what I consider to be pussyfooting around by the UN. John, you're right. Sometimes the only way to prevent violence is to be violent, because the only way some people hear what you're saying is to hit them upside the head.<?/smaller><BR> <BR><?smaller>Let the squabbling begin.<?/smaller><BR> <BR><?smaller>- Pam<?/smaller><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR><B>From:</B> <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>John Callan<?/color></U><BR><B>To:</B> <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U><BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response<BR><BR>Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that<BR>this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would<BR>consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin Powell.<BR><BR>Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that<BR>I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems.<BR>My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve<BR>problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term<BR>damage than words.<BR><BR>But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me.<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR><BR>On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote:<BR><BR>> Is it our duty?<BR>><BR>> <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]><BR><BR>--<BR>To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the<BR>uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:<BR><<U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html<?/color></U>><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_btUtUgeuLz5SQmqQ4Yg1mg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:14:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c5.30b84bde.2b826470_boundary" --part1_c5.30b84bde.2b826470_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 10 points for Pam! Ralph --part1_c5.30b84bde.2b826470_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">10 points for Pam!<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_c5.30b84bde.2b826470_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:18:36 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1db.2f18aa2.2b82655c_boundary" --part1_1db.2f18aa2.2b82655c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That Bob Score just goes to show you that not all lily-livered Commies are without a sense of humor, after all. Ralph --part1_1db.2f18aa2.2b82655c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">That Bob Score just goes to show you that not all lily= -livered Commies are without a sense of humor, after all. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1db.2f18aa2.2b82655c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:25:13 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Score, Robert" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-1fb0f017-9158-4c48-a8c1-c168b1d108e5" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------=_NextPartTM-000-1fb0f017-9158-4c48-a8c1-c168b1d108e5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D6A1.263C7410" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D6A1.263C7410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Better red than dead! -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Walter [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response That Bob Score just goes to show you that not all lily-livered Commies are without a sense of humor, after all. Ralph ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D6A1.263C7410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=974312516-17022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Better red than dead!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ralph Walter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2003 10:19 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">That Bob Score just goes to show you that not all lily-livered Commies are without a sense of humor, after all. <BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D6A1.263C7410-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-1fb0f017-9158-4c48-a8c1-c168b1d108e5-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:26:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Copper skylights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_77.a5d3087.2b826743_boundary" --part1_77.a5d3087.2b826743_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/17/2003 10:10:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I am still looking for help to find someone skilled in repairing copper > skylights, 1920s vintage, for a project in Olympia, WA, a landmark > building. > Any thoughts? I think my message last week may have been lost in the roll > call. > Not that any of the following will do you any good, but a good tinknocker and/or an old-time roofer ought to be able to do it. You might well be better off having the skylights made new to match the original, unless they're in pretty good shape to begin with. You're not likely to get a guarantee on a patch job, and may not be able to get anybody to do a patch job in the first place. Is the problem the skylights themselves, or the flashing, or what? What about contacting your SHPO for a contractor's name? What about the contractors who worked on the Tacoma RR station, which as I remember when I saw it several years ago in rather a ruinous state, looked like it had some copper work? Has the state Capitol been repaired recently, and if so, by whom? If worse comes to worst, you might have to import somebody from Back East, but that would cost a fortune. Good luck, and keep us posted. Ralph --part1_77.a5d3087.2b826743_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/17/2003 10:10:25 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am still looking for help to=20= find someone skilled in repairing copper<BR> skylights, 1920s vintage, for a project in Olympia, WA, a landmark building.= <BR> Any thoughts? I think my message last week may have been lost in the roll<BR= > call.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Not that any of the following will do you any good, but a good tinknocker an= d/or an old-time roofer ought to be able to do it. <BR> <BR> You might well be better off having the skylights made new to match the orig= inal, unless they're in pretty good shape to begin with. You're not li= kely to get a guarantee on a patch job, and may not be able to get anybody t= o do a patch job in the first place. <BR> <BR> Is the problem the skylights themselves, or the flashing, or what?<BR> <BR> What about contacting your SHPO for a contractor's name? What about th= e contractors who worked on the Tacoma RR station, which as I remember when=20= I saw it several years ago in rather a ruinous state, looked like it had som= e copper work? Has the state Capitol been repaired recently, and if so= , by whom?<BR> <BR> If worse comes to worst, you might have to import somebody from Back East, b= ut that would cost a fortune. Good luck, and keep us posted.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_77.a5d3087.2b826743_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:39:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_134.1b30986f.2b826a5d_boundary" --part1_134.1b30986f.2b826a5d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/17/2003 10:48:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > "High Noon"? I don't know. Can you see a president making a movie with a > monkey? Oops - been there, done that. And a great success it was, too. > Actually, my overall problem with Bush is that it appears he's trying to > return us to the isolationist period we were in over 100 years ago. > Actually, I think Teddy Roosevelt was not such an isolationist. The > problem was the wimps who followed him after WWI. We should do something > about Hussein before he becomes another Hitler I think he's been there and > done that, and now we gotta do something about it, which if Bush Sr. had > finished the job in 1991, we'd undoubtedly still be trying to nation-build, > but at least Saddam and his goombas would be gone. or worse, but it would > be better to do so with the rest of the allies support. It would be nice if > THEY weren't such a bunch of wimps, and I can't help but wonder whether > this would have "sold" better sooner after 9/11. I think I shocked my > husband over the weekend (the European point of view in the household - > well, sort of European, seeing as the UK isn't part of the EU), Reminds me > of the possibly apocryphal Brit newspaper headline: Heavy Fog Over > Channel-- Continent Isolated when I expressed that I think we should do > something in the Middle East. He still seems to respect me He should > respect you MORE, and probbaly does, but I have a feeling he thought I lean > more toward the bleeding heart types. My cynicism is starting to really > show. Sometimes, alas, our cybicism is warranted. Good for you, Pam! Ralph --part1_134.1b30986f.2b826a5d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/17/2003 10:48:25 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">"High Noon"? I don't know= . Can you see a president making a movie with a monkey? Oops - b= een there, done that. <B>And a great success it was, too. </B>Actually= , my overall problem with Bush is that it appears he's trying to return us t= o the isolationist period we were in over 100 years ago. <B>Actually, I thin= k Teddy Roosevelt was not such an isolationist. The problem was the wi= mps who followed him after WWI. </B> We <B>should </B>do something abou= t Hussein before he becomes another Hitler <B>I think he's been there and do= ne that, and now we gotta do something about it, which if Bush Sr. had finis= hed the job in 1991, we'd undoubtedly still be trying to nation-build, but a= t least Saddam and his goombas would be gone. </B>or worse, but it would be=20= better to do so with the rest of the allies support. <B>It would be nice if=20= THEY weren't such a bunch of wimps, and I can't help</B> <B>but wonder wheth= er</B> <B>this would have "sold" better sooner after 9/11. </B>I<B> </B>thin= k I shocked my husband over the weekend (the European point of view in the h= ousehold - well, sort of European, seeing as the UK isn't part of the EU), <= B>Reminds me of the possibly apocryphal Brit newspaper headline: Heavy= Fog Over Channel-- Continent Isolated </B> when I expressed that I thi= nk we should do something in the Middle East. He still seems to respec= t me <B>He should respect you MORE, and probbaly does</B>, but I have a feel= ing he thought I lean more toward the bleeding heart types. My cynicis= m is starting to really show. <B>Sometimes, alas, our cybicism is warranted.= </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLO= R: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Good for you, Pam!<BR> <BR> Ralph</B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_134.1b30986f.2b826a5d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:24:29 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2fUB1gVfU5Zz6AqE9NPm0w)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_2fUB1gVfU5Zz6AqE9NPm0w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I am truly honoured! ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response 10 points for Pam! Ralph --Boundary_(ID_2fUB1gVfU5Zz6AqE9NPm0w) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>I am truly honoured!</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2003 11:14 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">10 points for Pam!<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_2fUB1gVfU5Zz6AqE9NPm0w)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:26:45 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e.a61104f.2b827555_boundary" --part1_1e.a61104f.2b827555_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:25:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I am truly honoured! Pam, In that case, we'll give you 15 points, but you need to learned how to spell "honored." This IS America, ya know. Ralph --part1_1e.a61104f.2b827555_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:25:07 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am truly honoured!</BLOCKQUOT= E><BR> <BR> Pam,<BR> <BR> In that case, we'll give you 15 points, but you need to learned how to spell= "honored." This IS America, ya know.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e.a61104f.2b827555_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:30:10 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QX9DH4BtEOjy5m8A3Xxvxg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_QX9DH4BtEOjy5m8A3Xxvxg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ralph "Bonzo Lover" - Thank you for your undying support, and yes, I think my husband respects me more because I'm willing to speak my mind. I also think you have a good point about if we'd "gone after" Hussein sooner after 9/11. But I must ask, is "cynbicism" cynicism with cymbals? - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response In a message dated 2/17/2003 10:48:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: "High Noon"? I don't know. Can you see a president making a movie with a monkey? Oops - been there, done that. And a great success it was, too. Actually, my overall problem with Bush is that it appears he's trying to return us to the isolationist period we were in over 100 years ago. Actually, I think Teddy Roosevelt was not such an isolationist. The problem was the wimps who followed him after WWI. We should do something about Hussein before he becomes another Hitler I think he's been there and done that, and now we gotta do something about it, which if Bush Sr. had finished the job in 1991, we'd undoubtedly still be trying to nation-build, but at least Saddam and his goombas would be gone. or worse, but it would be better to do so with the rest of the allies support. It would be nice if THEY weren't such a bunch of wimps, and I can't help but wonder whether this would have "sold" better sooner after 9/11. I think I shocked my husband over the weekend (the European point of view in the household - well, sort of European, seeing as the UK isn't part of the EU), Reminds me of the possibly apocryphal Brit newspaper headline: Heavy Fog Over Channel-- Continent Isolated when I expressed that I think we should do something in the Middle East. He still seems to respect me He should respect you MORE, and probbaly does, but I have a feeling he thought I lean more toward the bleeding heart types. My cynicism is starting to really show. Sometimes, alas, our cybicism is warranted. Good for you, Pam! Ralph --Boundary_(ID_QX9DH4BtEOjy5m8A3Xxvxg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Ralph "Bonzo Lover" -</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you for your undying support, and yes, I think my husband respects me more because I'm willing to speak my mind. I also think you have a good point about if we'd "gone after" Hussein sooner after 9/11. But I must ask, is "cynbicism" cynicism with cymbals?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2003 11:39 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/17/2003 10:48:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"> <DIV>"High Noon"? I don't know. Can you see a president making a movie with a monkey? Oops - been there, done that. <B>And a great success it was, too. </B></DIV> <DIV>Actually, my overall problem with Bush is that it appears he's trying to return us to the isolationist period we were in over 100 years ago. </DIV> <DIV><B>Actually, I think Teddy Roosevelt was not such an isolationist. </B></DIV> <DIV><B>The problem was the wimps who followed him after WWI. </B> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We <B>should </B>do something about Hussein before he becomes another Hitler </DIV> <DIV><B>I think he's been there and done that, and now we gotta do something about it, </B></DIV> <DIV><B>which if Bush Sr. had finished the job in 1991, we'd undoubtedly still be trying to </B></DIV> <DIV><B>nation-build, but at least Saddam and his goombas would be gone. </B></DIV> <DIV>or worse, but it would be better to do so with the rest of the allies support. </DIV> <DIV><B>It would be nice if THEY weren't such a bunch of wimps, and I can't help</B> <B>but wonder </B></DIV> <DIV><B>whether</B> <B>this would have "sold" better sooner after 9/11. </B></DIV> <DIV>I<B> </B>think I shocked my husband over the weekend (the European point of view in the household - well, sort of European, seeing as the UK isn't part of the EU), </DIV> <DIV><B>Reminds me of the possibly apocryphal Brit newspaper headline: </B></DIV> <DIV><B>Heavy Fog Over Channel-- Continent Isolated </B> </DIV> <DIV>when I expressed that I think we should do something in the Middle East. </DIV> <DIV>He still seems to respect me <B>He should respect you MORE, and probbaly does</B>, </DIV> <DIV>but I have a feeling he thought I lean more toward the bleeding heart types. My cynicism is starting to really show. <B>Sometimes, alas, our cybicism is warranted. </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><B>Good for you, Pam!<BR><BR>Ralph</B><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_QX9DH4BtEOjy5m8A3Xxvxg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:33:07 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_TAyGFhuk+HzgfYZNQJqx6w)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_TAyGFhuk+HzgfYZNQJqx6w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I just can't help myself. Hard to believe as it is, I started spelling words like that in 8th grade. Must be my karma knew then what I know now. At least, that's what I try to convince myself, rather than the truth, which is I just thought it was really cool to be different back then. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:26 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:25:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I am truly honoured! Pam, In that case, we'll give you 15 points, but you need to learned how to spell "honored." This IS America, ya know. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_TAyGFhuk+HzgfYZNQJqx6w) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>I just can't help myself. Hard to believe as it is, I started spelling words like that in 8th grade. Must be my karma knew then what I know now. At least, that's what I try to convince myself, rather than the truth, which is I just thought it was really cool to be different back then.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2003 12:26 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:25:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">I am truly honoured!</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Pam,<BR><BR>In that case, we'll give you 15 points, but you need to learned how to spell "honored." This IS America, ya know.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_TAyGFhuk+HzgfYZNQJqx6w)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:50:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_164.1bf904b9.2b827afa_boundary" --part1_164.1bf904b9.2b827afa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Awwwww, Robert and his socialist pinko friends have their panties in wad. I'm sure your hero Saddam Hussein appreciates your humor. Hey Robert, catch the next flight to Bagdad. I'm sure Saddam has some Iraqi sausage you can work on. Robert, have you been parading around naked in Central Park with your buddies? Steve Elkins --part1_164.1bf904b9.2b827afa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Awwwww, Robert and his socialist pinko friends= have their panties in wad. I'm sure your hero Saddam Hussein appreciates yo= ur humor. Hey Robert, catch the next flight to Bagdad. I'm sure Saddam has s= ome Iraqi sausage you can work on. Robert, have you been parading around nak= ed in Central Park with your buddies? <BR> <BR> Steve Elkins</FONT></HTML> --part1_164.1bf904b9.2b827afa_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:50:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_38.35be6246.2b827aea_boundary" --part1_38.35be6246.2b827aea_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:31:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > But I must ask, is "cynbicism" cynicism with cymbals? Yes, loud clanging brass cymbals. Ralph --part1_38.35be6246.2b827aea_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:31:18 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">But I must ask, is "cynbicism"=20= cynicism with cymbals?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"= BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Yes, loud clanging brass cymbals.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_38.35be6246.2b827aea_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:52:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b2.1879e566.2b827b5c_boundary" --part1_b2.1879e566.2b827b5c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:33:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I just can't help myself. Hard to believe as it is, I started spelling > words like that in 8th grade. Must be my karma knew then what I know now. > At least, that's what I try to convince myself, rather than the truth, > which is I just thought it was really cool to be different back then. > Pam, We like the way you're different now. But "honoured" strikes me as as much of a limp-wristed British affectation as the goodam Old-House Journal and "storey." Ralph --part1_b2.1879e566.2b827b5c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:33:25 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I just can't help myself. = Hard to believe as it is, I started spelling words like that in 8th grade.&= nbsp; Must be my karma knew then what I know now. At least, that's wha= t I try to convince myself, rather than the truth, which is I just thought i= t was really cool to be different back then.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"=20= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Pam,<BR> <BR> We like the way you're different now. But "honoured" strikes me as as=20= much of a limp-wristed British affectation as the goodam Old-House Journal a= nd "storey."<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_b2.1879e566.2b827b5c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:53:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_75.a5c59f7.2b827b9e_boundary" --part1_75.a5c59f7.2b827b9e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:52:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Awwwww, Robert and his socialist pinko friends have their panties in wad. > I'm sure your hero Saddam Hussein appreciates your humor. Hey Robert, catch > the next flight to Bagdad. I'm sure Saddam has some Iraqi sausage you can > work on. Robert, have you been parading around naked in Central Park with > your buddies? > Steve, Talk about big claning brass cymbals! Ralph --part1_75.a5c59f7.2b827b9e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:52:08 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Awwwww, Robert and his socialist pinko friends have th= eir panties in wad. I'm sure your hero Saddam Hussein appreciates your humor= . Hey Robert, catch the next flight to Bagdad. I'm sure Saddam has some Iraq= i sausage you can work on. Robert, have you been parading around naked in Ce= ntral Park with your buddies? <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Steve,<BR> <BR> Talk about big claning brass cymbals!<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_75.a5c59f7.2b827b9e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:08:10 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_jFE9syHziYrAFbu+mlrWDg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_jFE9syHziYrAFbu+mlrWDg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT LOL. That would infer the 1812 Overture is very cynical. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:31:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: But I must ask, is "cynbicism" cynicism with cymbals? Yes, loud clanging brass cymbals. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_jFE9syHziYrAFbu+mlrWDg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>LOL. That would infer the 1812 Overture is very cynical.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2003 12:50 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:31:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">But I must ask, is "cynbicism" cynicism with cymbals?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Yes, loud clanging brass cymbals.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_jFE9syHziYrAFbu+mlrWDg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:40:24 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_a832ylbLoQDClQlTi16OWw)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_a832ylbLoQDClQlTi16OWw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ralph - I'm not trying to be a limp-wristed Brit, although I could be called affected (in the head). Besides, I keep telling the dude we'll turn him into a Yank, yet! - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:52 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:33:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I just can't help myself. Hard to believe as it is, I started spelling words like that in 8th grade. Must be my karma knew then what I know now. At least, that's what I try to convince myself, rather than the truth, which is I just thought it was really cool to be different back then. Pam, We like the way you're different now. But "honoured" strikes me as as much of a limp-wristed British affectation as the goodam Old-House Journal and "storey." Ralph --Boundary_(ID_a832ylbLoQDClQlTi16OWw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Ralph -</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I'm not trying to be a limp-wristed Brit, although I could be called affected (in the head). Besides, I keep telling the dude we'll turn him into a Yank, yet!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2003 12:52 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/17/2003 12:33:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">I just can't help myself. Hard to believe as it is, I started spelling words like that in 8th grade. Must be my karma knew then what I know now. At least, that's what I try to convince myself, rather than the truth, which is I just thought it was really cool to be different back then.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Pam,<BR><BR>We like the way you're different now. But "honoured" strikes me as as much of a </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">limp-wristed British affectation as the goodam Old-House Journal and "storey."<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Ralph</FONT> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_a832ylbLoQDClQlTi16OWw)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:18:38 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/17/2003 1:08:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > LOL. That would infer the 1812 Overture is very cynical. And part of the canon. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:17:46 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Score, Robert" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-3701ddcf-ddec-4c94-9b16-eb5da9dabe58" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------=_NextPartTM-000-3701ddcf-ddec-4c94-9b16-eb5da9dabe58 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D6C1.A25C37E0" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D6C1.A25C37E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" So I assume by this that you liked my little song steve. I would suggest that you try to point out which specific lines you find to be incorrect. Comrade Score! -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:51 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response Awwwww, Robert and his socialist pinko friends have their panties in wad. I'm sure your hero Saddam Hussein appreciates your humor. Hey Robert, catch the next flight to Bagdad. I'm sure Saddam has some Iraqi sausage you can work on. Robert, have you been parading around naked in Central Park with your buddies? Steve Elkins ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D6C1.A25C37E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=466401620-17022003>So I assume by this that you liked my little song steve. I would suggest that you try to point out which specific lines you find to be incorrect.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=466401620-17022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=466401620-17022003>Comrade Score!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2003 11:51 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face="Comic Sans MS" size=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT">Awwwww, Robert and his socialist pinko friends have their panties in wad. I'm sure your hero Saddam Hussein appreciates your humor. Hey Robert, catch the next flight to Bagdad. I'm sure Saddam has some Iraqi sausage you can work on. Robert, have you been parading around naked in Central Park with your buddies? <BR><BR>Steve Elkins</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D6C1.A25C37E0-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-3701ddcf-ddec-4c94-9b16-eb5da9dabe58-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:59:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_23.2c05c64b.2b82a736_boundary" --part1_23.2c05c64b.2b82a736_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/17/2003 2:40:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Besides, I keep telling the dude we'll turn him into a Yank, yet! Pam, Keep trying. The best way is private displays of affection, and lots of them. And forget the business about the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. Ralph --part1_23.2c05c64b.2b82a736_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/17/2003 2:40:38 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Besides, I keep telling the dud= e we'll turn him into a Yank, yet!</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00000= 0" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Pam,<BR> <BR> Keep trying. The best way is private displays of affection, and lots o= f them. <BR> <BR> And forget the business about the way to a man's heart is through his stomac= h.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_23.2c05c64b.2b82a736_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:22:37 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_iVm1KCI2ixURNYO8I6KS+g)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_iVm1KCI2ixURNYO8I6KS+g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT It is if I supply it some single malt. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response In a message dated 2/17/2003 2:40:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Besides, I keep telling the dude we'll turn him into a Yank, yet! Pam, Keep trying. The best way is private displays of affection, and lots of them. And forget the business about the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_iVm1KCI2ixURNYO8I6KS+g) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>It is if I supply it some single malt.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2003 3:59 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/17/2003 2:40:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">Besides, I keep telling the dude we'll turn him into a Yank, yet!</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Pam,<BR><BR>Keep trying. The best way is private displays of affection, and lots of them. <BR><BR>And forget the business about the way to a man's heart is through his stomach.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_iVm1KCI2ixURNYO8I6KS+g)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:07:04 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/17/2003 4:22:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > It is if I supply it some single malt. Pam, This would appear to confirm the supposition that there's something definitely odd about those Brits. Maybe it's having the continent isolated. Must have driven the Beatles crazy. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:10:40 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response...on second thought MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/17/2003 8:07:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Must have driven the Beatles crazy. Now that I think about it, this must be what drove the teenage girls crazy. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:38:56 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Iraq Score MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert, now I can't stop singing that darn-fool song! Thanks... Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA ------------------------------ -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 07:59:55 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Score, Robert" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq Score MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-6bbf1828-4ed9-479d-852b-791ee47b0658" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------=_NextPartTM-000-6bbf1828-4ed9-479d-852b-791ee47b0658 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D756.042D4470" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D756.042D4470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Irene, there are worse songs to sing, and if you have to walk around all day singing it to yourself, you might as well share it with the rest of your office so that they can join in. Two days ago our entire group was hamming and dancing to the chicken dance all day, thanks to our fearless leader. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Ilene R. Tyler [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:39 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Iraq Score Robert, now I can't stop singing that darn-fool song! Thanks... Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA ------------------------------ -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D756.042D4470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>RE: Iraq Score</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Irene, there are worse songs to sing, and if you have = to walk around all day singing it to yourself, you might as well share = it with the rest of your office so that they can join in. Two days ago = our entire group was hamming and dancing to the chicken dance all day, = thanks to our fearless leader.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Ilene R. Tyler [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</A>]<= /FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:39 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: [log in to unmask]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Iraq Score</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Robert, now I can't stop singing that darn-fool = song! Thanks...</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>------------------------------</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To terminate puerile preservation prattling among = pals and the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go = to:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><<A = HREF=3D"http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinhe= ads.html</A>></FONT> </P> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D756.042D4470-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-6bbf1828-4ed9-479d-852b-791ee47b0658-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:46:58 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1df.2488026.2b83a162_boundary" --part1_1df.2488026.2b83a162_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It will be nice to not meet any of you face to face so you can remain the imaginary characters of the inner e-mind. July and Ithaca is a ways away. ][<en --part1_1df.2488026.2b83a162_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">It will be nice to not meet any of you face to face so= you can remain the imaginary characters of the inner e-mind.</BLOCKQUOTE></= FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 F= AMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> July and Ithaca is a ways away. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_1df.2488026.2b83a162_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:49:33 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6b.a5927bd.2b83a1fd_boundary" --part1_6b.a5927bd.2b83a1fd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With a wooden leg. Meaning he looks like Al Capp. ][<en --part1_6b.a5927bd.2b83a1fd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">With a wooden leg.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Meaning he looks like Al Capp. ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_6b.a5927bd.2b83a1fd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:47:12 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 16 Feb 2003 to 17 Feb 2003 (#2003-46) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D75C.9ECEA423" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D75C.9ECEA423 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Contents deleted...again. What puerile comments were posted???!!! =20 QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA 219 1/2 N. Main Street Ann Arbor, MI 48104 [log in to unmask] www.quinnevans.com v 734.663.5888 f 734.663.5044 > -----Original Message----- > From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Automatic digest processor > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 3:04 AM > To: Recipients of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS digests > Subject: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 16 Feb 2003 to 17 Feb 2003 > (#2003-46) >=20 > << File: Deleted Attachment.txt >>=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D75C.9ECEA423 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 6.0.6249.1"> <TITLE>RE: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 16 Feb 2003 to 17 Feb 2003 = (#2003-46)</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Contents = deleted…again. What puerile comments were posted???!!! = </FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS</FONT> </P> <P><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA</FONT></B> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">219 1/2 N. Main Street</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ann Arbor, MI 48104</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">[log in to unmask]</FONT> <BR><A HREF=3D"file://www.quinnevans.com"><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">www.quinnevans.com</FONT></U></A> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">v 734.663.5888</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">f 734.663.5044</FONT> </P> <BR> <UL> <P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"></FONT> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">From: </FONT></B> <FONT = SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">"Let us not speak foul in folly!" - = ][<en Phollit [</FONT><A = HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"><U><FONT = COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">mailto:[log in to unmask]</FONT></= U></A><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">] </FONT><B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">On Behalf Of</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">Automatic digest processor</FONT></P> <P><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Sent: </FONT></B> <FONT = SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Monday, February 17, 2003 3:04 AM</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">To: </FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">Recipients of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS digests</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">Subject: </FONT>= </B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - = 16 Feb 2003 to 17 Feb 2003 (#2003-46)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> << File: Deleted = Attachment.txt >> </FONT> </P> </UL> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D75C.9ECEA423-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:20:46 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Iraq response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7E3CCD6A4D80FAB56C141280" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7E3CCD6A4D80FAB56C141280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Callan wrote: > Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? What better gauge of the voice of the people? My country right or wrong is the moral equivalent of my mother drunk or sober...... --------------7E3CCD6A4D80FAB56C141280 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------7E3CCD6A4D80FAB56C141280-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:28:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_77.a74bcd5.2b83ab31_boundary" --part1_77.a74bcd5.2b83ab31_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:50:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Meaning he looks like Al Capp. The ants crawl in, the ants crawl out.... Ralph --part1_77.a74bcd5.2b83ab31_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:50:16 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Meaning he looks like Al Capp.<= /BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff= ff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> The ants crawl in, the ants crawl out....<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_77.a74bcd5.2b83ab31_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:29:31 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. 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Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------C859743416D5BD46B0FB6486-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:29:29 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 16 Feb 2003 to 17 Feb 2003 (#2003-46) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f6.28d622d5.2b83ab59_boundary" --part1_f6.28d622d5.2b83ab59_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:50:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes: > Contents deleted=E2=80=A6again. What puerile comments were posted???!!! =20 >=20 >=20 Ilene, Don't worry. We'll all make them all again sooner or later. Ralph --part1_f6.28d622d5.2b83ab59_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:50:34 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Contents deleted=E2=80=A6again. What puerile comments= were posted???!!! </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND= -COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR= > <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ilene,<BR> <BR> Don't worry. We'll all make them all again sooner or later.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_f6.28d622d5.2b83ab59_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:31:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Crawfished, Bush, Economy, Iraq MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b7.2e8dcb47.2b83abe9_boundary" --part1_b7.2e8dcb47.2b83abe9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wasn't the economy falling when Bush took office? Surely not. Bush & his crew made it fail worse, like in when it ain't broke don't fix it with all his loud mouth talk about how the economy was failing it then proceeded to make good on his rhetoric as the economy is all us and when we hear negative stuff we tend to manifest it into reality. Life is story and Bush tells scary stories. Crawfished, as referenced by Bush a while back re: where they hid the Osama... not an ignorant term but one of American literature... comes up in Huckleberry Finn when Huck is trying to get out of the way of the murdering gang on the steamboat that had killed herself on a rock towards the end of Chapter XII. This while folks were out looking for the missing and presumed murdered Huck. As to Iraq, if Osama ain't there then Bush is a damned fool. No nukes. I gave up on non-violence the last time I got the poop beat out of me some 30+ years ago. Gandhi & Dr. King sounded good enough. Mr. CTB was there the day the x-Marine recently back from Nam smashed my face with a full beer can. Since then I figure I'll kill anyone that moves violent to me or mine. Not much chance of that happening, but then, it is the mental state of the collective unconsious we need to be concerned here with more than the physical presence of violence. I've not been bothered since. The mugger that stuck the gun to my son's head did not make me too happy. Probably a good thing I wasn't there. The anti-war rallies of the early 70's were exciting. I met a lot of people that smoked dope and we had a lot of fun running from the police chasing us on their mopeds and us avoiding the tear gas. I was standing on a corner with some locals who were laughing at the protestors and cursing them out when a canister went whizzing right past us. It took them by surprise, thinking as patriots out to enjoy their city that they were immune to the violent action. Tear gas smells funny and it lingers in the nostrils. The problem with mass politics is you can get sucked in and spit out dead the other end without ever knowing what you were doing there for... like with the Civil War, or Korea. ][<en --part1_b7.2e8dcb47.2b83abe9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Wasn't the economy falling when Bush took offi= ce? Surely not.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f= fffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Bush & his crew made it=20= fail worse, like in when it ain't broke don't fix it with all his loud mouth= talk about how the economy was failing it then proceeded to make good on hi= s rhetoric as the economy is all us and when we hear negative stuff we tend=20= to manifest it into reality. Life is story and Bush tells scary stories.<BR> <BR> Crawfished, as referenced by Bush a while back re: where they hid the Osama.= .. not an ignorant term but one of American literature... comes up in Huckle= berry Finn when Huck is trying to get out of the way of the murdering gang o= n the steamboat that had killed herself on a rock towards the end of Chapter= XII. This while folks were out looking for the missing and presumed murdere= d Huck.<BR> <BR> As to Iraq, if Osama ain't there then Bush is a damned fool. No nukes.<BR> <BR> I gave up on non-violence the last time I got the poop beat out of me some 3= 0+ years ago. Gandhi & Dr. King sounded good enough. Mr. CTB was there t= he day the x-Marine recently back from Nam smashed my face with a full beer=20= can. Since then I figure I'll kill anyone that moves violent to me or mine.=20= Not much chance of that happening, but then, it is the mental state of the c= ollective unconsious we need to be concerned here with more than the physica= l presence of violence. I've not been bothered since. The mugger that stuck=20= the gun to my son's head did not make me too happy. Probably a good thing I=20= wasn't there. The anti-war rallies of the early 70's were exciting. I met a=20= lot of people that smoked dope and we had a lot of fun running from the poli= ce chasing us on their mopeds and us avoiding the tear gas. I was standing o= n a corner with some locals who were laughing at the protestors and cursing=20= them out when a canister went whizzing right past us. It took them by surpri= se, thinking as patriots out to enjoy their city that they were immune to th= e violent action. Tear gas smells funny and it lingers in the nostrils. The=20= problem with mass politics is you can get sucked in and spit out dead the ot= her end without ever knowing what you were doing there for... like with the=20= Civil War, or Korea.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_b7.2e8dcb47.2b83abe9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:36:25 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 16 Feb 2003 to 17 Feb 2003 (#2003-46) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D763.7F6D9139" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D763.7F6D9139 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It was probably Ralph's mention of the male brain organ, even if it was the biologically correct nomenclature. -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ilene R. Tyler Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 16 Feb 2003 to 17 Feb 2003 (#2003-46) Contents deleted...again. What puerile comments were posted???!!! =20 QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS=20 Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA=20 219 1/2 N. Main Street=20 Ann Arbor, MI 48104=20 [log in to unmask] <file://www.quinnevans.com> www.quinnevans.com=20 v 734.663.5888=20 f 734.663.5044=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [ <mailto:[log in to unmask]> mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Automatic digest processor Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 3:04 AM=20 To: Recipients of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS digests=20 Subject: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 16 Feb 2003 to 17 Feb 2003 (#2003-46)=20 << File: Deleted Attachment.txt >>=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D763.7F6D9139 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2713.1100" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D781433515-18022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>It was=20 probably Ralph's mention of the male brain organ, even if it was the=20 biologically correct nomenclature.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let = us not=20 speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <B>On Behalf Of = </B>Ilene=20 R. Tyler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:47 = AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20 [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20 BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 16 Feb 2003 to 17 Feb 2003=20 (#2003-46)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Contents = deleted…again. What=20 puerile comments were posted???!!! </FONT></P><BR> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS</FONT> </P> <P><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA</FONT></B> </P> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>219 1/2 N. Main Street</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Ann Arbor, MI 48104</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>[log in to unmask]</FONT> <BR><A=20 href=3D"file://www.quinnevans.com"><U><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2>www.quinnevans.com</FONT></U></A> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>v=20 734.663.5888</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>f = 734.663.5044</FONT> </P><BR> <UL> <P><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> <FONT face=3DTahoma = size=3D1>-----Original=20 Message-----</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1>From: = </FONT></B>=20 <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1>"Let us not speak foul in folly!" - = ][<en=20 Phollit [</FONT><A=20 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"><U><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 color=3D#0000ff=20 = size=3D1>mailto:[log in to unmask]</FONT></U></A><= FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D1>] </FONT><B> <FONT face=3DTahoma = size=3D1>On Behalf=20 Of</FONT></B> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1>Automatic digest = processor</FONT></P> <P><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1>Sent: </FONT></B> = <FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D1>Monday, February 17, 2003 3:04 AM</FONT> = <BR><B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D1>To: </FONT></B> <FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D1>Recipients of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS digests</FONT> = <BR><B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma=20 = size=3D1>Subject: </FONT></B>&nb= sp;<FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D1> BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 16 Feb 2003 to = 17 Feb 2003=20 (#2003-46)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> << File: Deleted = Attachment.txt=20 >> </FONT></P></UL></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D763.7F6D9139-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:27:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Copper skylights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cb.309c93f.2b83b907_boundary" --part1_1cb.309c93f.2b83b907_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am still looking for help to find someone skilled in repairing copper skylights, 1920s vintage, for a project in Olympia, WA, a landmark building. Any thoughts? I think my message last week may have been lost in the roll call. Christopher, The question is a stumper as I'm not sure any of us know a coppersmith in Washington State, particularly not in the histo presto field. So I need to ask questions to refine the search criteria. Is there a split between in-shop and field work? If there is a higher percentage of in-shop work then it may not matter where the project is located so much to find local craft as to find excellent craft that is willing to travel. How many days do you think is involved in field work for a crew of two? Just how elaborate is the work? Flat work or pressed metal? What level of skill is needed, master or journeyman? Is there nobody out there qualified? Is the logistics difficult? Is it a remote location? Is there camping, boating and mules or Sheraton and continental breakfast? Are we talking rain forest? Repairing or rebuilding? If the money is there and the task makes sense I'll find a team and go. I know this guy in CT that does real good work, and another in Vermont. It is not much difference, other than a plane flight, if it is in West Point or Olympia. Otherwise there is this guy in SF who may know someone to recommend. ][<en --part1_1cb.309c93f.2b83b907_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I am still looking for help to find someone skilled in= repairing copper skylights, 1920s vintage, for a project in Olympia, WA, a=20= landmark building. Any thoughts? I think my message last week may have been=20= lost in the roll call.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Christopher,<BR> <BR> The question is a stumper as I'm not sure any of us know a coppersmith in Wa= shington State, particularly not in the histo presto field. So I need to ask= questions to refine the search criteria. Is there a split between in-shop a= nd field work? If there is a higher percentage of in-shop work then it may n= ot matter where the project is located so much to find local craft as to fin= d excellent craft that is willing to travel. How many days do you think is i= nvolved in field work for a crew of two? Just how elaborate is the work? Fla= t work or pressed metal? What level of skill is needed, master or journeyman= ? Is there nobody out there qualified? Is the logistics difficult? Is it a r= emote location? Is there camping, boating and mules or Sheraton and continen= tal breakfast? Are we talking rain forest? Repairing or rebuilding? If the m= oney is there and the task makes sense I'll find a team and go. I know this=20= guy in CT that does real good work, and another in Vermont. It is not much d= ifference, other than a plane flight, if it is in West Point or Olympia. Oth= erwise there is this guy in SF who may know someone to recommend.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_1cb.309c93f.2b83b907_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:32:42 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Copper skylights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a9.10b2919e.2b83ba2a_boundary" --part1_1a9.10b2919e.2b83ba2a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/03 11:28:53 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: <<<So I need to ask questions to refine the search criteria.>>> Also: <<Florins or confederate dollars?" Signed, Chancellor of the Exchecker --part1_1a9.10b2919e.2b83ba2a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/03 11:28:53 AM, ARWNY@AO= L.COM writes: <BR><<<</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF= " FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">So I need to ask questions to refine the search=20= criteria.>>> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SAN= SSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Also: <<Florins or confederate dollars?" Signed,= Chancellor of the Exchecker </FONT></HTML> --part1_1a9.10b2919e.2b83ba2a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:38:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Irack response: (Re: file attachments on B-P) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_66.2ead852f.2b83bb9b_boundary" --part1_66.2ead852f.2b83bb9b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we should block them on B-P. Dan, Ken .... Estelle? They do cause an assortment of problems, particulary clogging systems for folks who can't read them -- reinforcing the "new technology" hegemony. Unless I really really want them I won't open them for questons of time and potential viruses. Though I admit anyone on BP sending me one I would open. For graphics and files PigHabit-L is alive and well and Deb Bledsoe, now that she has cable access, has in the past volunteered to help anyone with technical challenges working with PigHabit-L. ][<en --part1_66.2ead852f.2b83bb9b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">I think we should block them on B-P. Dan,=20= Ken .... Estelle? </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACK= GROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"= 0"><BR> <BR> Th</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D1 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">ey do cause an assortmen= t of problems, particulary clogging systems for folks who can't read them --= reinforcing the "new technology" hegemony. Unless I really really want them= I won't open them for questons of time and potential viruses. Though I admi= t anyone on BP sending me one I would open.<BR> <BR> For graphics and files PigHabit-L is alive and well and Deb Bledsoe, now tha= t she has cable access, has in the past volunteered to help anyone with tech= nical challenges working with PigHabit-L.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_66.2ead852f.2b83bb9b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:54:06 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: arcane knowledge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_57.184718d0.2b83bf2e_boundary" --part1_57.184718d0.2b83bf2e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When it comes to preservation, never underestimate the value of seemingly arcane knowledge Or, as was informed to me this morning, that if you do not watch television that everyone around you will keep you up on the relevant details simply for the fact that they feel sorry for you. Though I watch probably too much television the person who first told me the news about the shuttle, on a day that I was not watching television, is someone that does not watch television or listen to the radio or read the newspapers. I had been avoiding news prior to 9/11. It seems impossible to avoid arcane information in our society. ][<en --part1_57.184718d0.2b83bf2e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">When it comes to preservation, never underestimate the= value of seemingly<BR> arcane knowledge</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Or, as was informed to me this morning, that if you do not watch television=20= that everyone around you will keep you up on the relevant details simply for= the fact that they feel sorry for you. Though I watch probably too much tel= evision the person who first told me the news about the shuttle, on a day th= at I was not watching television, is someone that does not watch television=20= or listen to the radio or read the newspapers. I had been avoiding news prio= r to 9/11. It seems impossible to avoid arcane information in our society.<B= R> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_57.184718d0.2b83bf2e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:58:26 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Flooring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_36.39bb6d40.2b83c032_boundary" --part1_36.39bb6d40.2b83c032_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Save some money and come to BC where I will conduct a hands-on workshop in Historic Wooden Flooring for $6 Cdn ($10 US). Cuyler: You forgot to mention dates and accomodations. Will there be slides? ][<en --part1_36.39bb6d40.2b83c032_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Save some money and come to BC where I will conduct a=20= hands-on workshop in Historic Wooden Flooring for $6 Cdn ($10 US). </BLOCKQU= OTE><BR> <BR> Cuyler: You forgot to mention dates and accomodations. Will there be slides?= ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_36.39bb6d40.2b83c032_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:06:15 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Flooring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_65.a5fecd8.2b83ec37_boundary" --part1_65.a5fecd8.2b83ec37_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 11:59:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Save some money and come to BC where I will conduct a hands-on workshop in > Historic Wooden Flooring for $6 Cdn ($10 US). > > > Cuyler: You forgot to mention dates and accomodations. Will there be > slides? ][<en ][<en, I think he also got the conversion rate a little backwards. Unless people are REALLY pissed about Iraq. Ralph --part1_65.a5fecd8.2b83ec37_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 11:59:32 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Save some money and come to BC=20= where I will conduct a hands-on workshop in Historic Wooden Flooring for $6=20= Cdn ($10 US). <BR> <BR> <BR> Cuyler: You forgot to mention dates and accomodations. Will there be slides?= ][<en</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"= SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">][<en, <BR> <BR> I think he also got the conversion rate a little backwards. Unless peo= ple are REALLY pissed about Iraq.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_65.a5fecd8.2b83ec37_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:38:22 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14f.1be6fde7.2b841dee_boundary" --part1_14f.1be6fde7.2b841dee_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:50:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > With a wooden leg. > So I said to my wife with a wooden leg...Peg. Steve --part1_14f.1be6fde7.2b841dee_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:50:16 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">With a wooden leg.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> So I said to my wife with a wooden leg...Peg.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_14f.1be6fde7.2b841dee_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:07:35 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_64.2ccb5fd7.2b8432d7_boundary" --part1_64.2ccb5fd7.2b8432d7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 6:39:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > So I said to my wife with a wooden leg...Peg. > > There's a Mrs. Steve? Eeeewwwwww. Ralph --part1_64.2ccb5fd7.2b8432d7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 6:39:07 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">So I said to my wife with a wooden leg...Peg.<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> There's a Mrs. Steve? Eeeewwwwww.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_64.2ccb5fd7.2b8432d7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:12:12 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-741539885 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2-741539885 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Isn't amazing how many people manage to find someone to pair up with! -jc On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 07:07 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/18/2003 6:39:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > So I said to my wife with a wooden leg...Peg. > > > > There's a Mrs. Steve?=A0 Eeeewwwwww. > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-2-741539885 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Isn't amazing how many people manage to find someone to pair up with! -jc On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 07:07 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/18/2003 6:39:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Comic Sans = MS</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>So I said to my wife with a wooden leg...Peg. = </color></fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,00= 00,0000</param><smaller>There's a Mrs. Steve?=A0 Eeeewwwwww. Ralph</smaller></color></fontfamily></excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2-741539885-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:13:52 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Flooring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C2D779.7DE26980" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C2D779.7DE26980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Flooring Save some money and come to BC where I will conduct a hands-on = workshop in Historic Wooden Flooring for $6 Cdn ($10 US).=20 Cuyler: You forgot to mention dates and accommodations. Will there be = slides? ][<en=20 Ah Yes, I suppose the date will be when the Cdn $ returns to its real value. ( = I guess I was recalling how hesitant my (USA) father was to enter Canada = when we went on fishing holidays to the St. Lawrence because a dollar = there cost him $1.05 US. ) There are always slides, that way the room is dark and you can't see how = old I am. Accommodations are always being made to those who speak in other = tongues. The Hands-On Workshop is very real and very now, and if you want to get = your hands into some good 1877 Canadian dirt, just drop in any Saturday = or Sunday (or other days by appointment) to the Grist Mill at Keremeos, = BC. New industrial archaeological discoveries guaranteed (almost) = every weekend. And yes, Ralph, I did go walk in my very first Peace March on Sunday, = and ended up getting pissed off that the speakers at City Hall only = trashed Bush and not Sad. Hus., and mostly because they didn't really = spend much time promoting Peace as a different way of doing things. On = the other hand, there were ten times as many people out marching down = Main Street as the organizers expected, lots of first timers, and most = seemed to feel the same way I did when the "official" speakers took over = the mike. No point just replacing one war with another. All the = same, lots of support here for Amnesty International's critique of Sad. = Hus. and UN force as the best means to solve it. Lots of also = sentiments about how come the 1st world and UN overlooks the Isra/Pal = stupidity and all the other outrages against humanity. Damn, it is hard not to become cynical. My favourite cartoon is from = Peanuts and shows Lucy sitting at a table, with Linus watching. The = first frames have her beginning to clench her hands. Later ones show = her face getting red. No words are said. The last frames show smoke = coming our of her ears and a bright red faced straight grimace of teeth, = and then Linus speaks, asking "What's going on, Lucy?" "I'M BEING = PATIENT ! ! ! ! !" she replies. cp being peaceful in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C2D779.7DE26980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Workshop: Historic = Wood=20 Flooring</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Save some money and come to BC where I will = conduct a=20 hands-on workshop in Historic Wooden Flooring for $6 Cdn ($10 US). = </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Cuyler: You forgot to mention <U>dates and accommodations. Will = there be=20 slides?</U> ][<en</FONT><FONT size=3D3>=20 </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ah Yes,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I suppose the <U>date</U> will be when = the Cdn $=20 returns to its real value. ( I guess I was recalling how = hesitant=20 my (USA) father was to enter Canada when we went on fishing = holidays to the=20 St. Lawrence because a dollar there cost him $1.05 US. )</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are always <U>slides</U>, that = way the room=20 is dark and you can't see how old I am.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><U>Accommodations</U> are always being = made to=20 those who speak in other tongues.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The <U>Hands-On Workshop</U> is very = real and very=20 now, and if you want to get your hands into some good 1877 Canadian = dirt,=20 just drop in any Saturday or Sunday (or other days by = appointment) to=20 the Grist Mill at Keremeos, BC. New industrial = archaeological=20 discoveries guaranteed (almost) every weekend.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And yes, Ralph, I did go walk in my = very first=20 <U>Peace March</U> on Sunday, and ended up getting pissed=20 off that the speakers at City Hall only trashed Bush and not Sad. = Hus., and=20 mostly because they didn't really spend much time promoting Peace as a = different=20 way of doing things. On the other hand, there were ten times = as many=20 people out marching down Main Street as the organizers expected, lots of = first=20 timers, and most seemed to feel the same way I did when the = "official"=20 speakers took over the mike. No point just replacing one war = with=20 another. All the same, lots of support here for Amnesty=20 International's critique of Sad. Hus. and UN force as the best means to = solve=20 it. Lots of also sentiments about how come the 1st = world and=20 UN overlooks the Isra/Pal stupidity and all the other outrages = against=20 humanity.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn, it is hard not to become = cynical. =20 My favourite cartoon is from Peanuts and shows Lucy sitting at a = table,=20 with Linus watching. The first frames have her beginning to clench = her=20 hands. Later ones show her face getting red. No words = are=20 said. The last frames show smoke coming our of her ears and a = bright red=20 faced straight grimace of teeth, and then Linus speaks, asking "What's = going on,=20 Lucy?" "I'M BEING PATIENT ! ! ! ! !" she replies.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp being peaceful=20 in bc</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C2D779.7DE26980-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:44:44 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:12:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Isn't amazing how many people manage to find someone to > pair up with! -jc John, You'd think it would be easier to find matching socks in your own dryer. But nooooooooo.......... Or are our sock standards higher than our marital standards? Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:02:11 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c5.30c63bb5.2b844db3_boundary" --part1_c5.30c63bb5.2b844db3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 8:08:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > There's a Mrs. Steve? Eeeewwwwww. > Yes, there is and she is a wood leg, glass eyed smart ass. Eeeewwwww is right. Steve --part1_c5.30c63bb5.2b844db3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 8:08:38 PM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">There's a Mrs. Steve? Eeeewwwwww.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Yes, there is and she is a wood leg, glass eyed smart ass. Eeeewwwww is righ= t.<BR> <BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_c5.30c63bb5.2b844db3_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:08:37 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Define "easier". It certainly was and is less tedious. On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 08:44 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:12:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > >> Isn't amazing how many people manage to find someone to >> pair up with! -jc > > John, > > You'd think it would be easier to find matching socks in your own > dryer. But nooooooooo.......... > > Or are our sock standards higher than our marital standards? > > Ralph > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:14:44 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Flooring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:13:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > ended up getting pissed off that the speakers at City Hall only trashed Bush and not Sad. Hus., and mostly because they didn't really spend much time promoting Peace as a different > way of doing things. Cuyler, Yes, indeedy, this is the part that torques my shorts: Where all these nominally peace-loving types are so quick to condemn the US and whatever portions of the 1st world happen to side with us, and ignore the fact that the people (uh, excuse me, the governments) we're in conflict with are not all exactly Mother Teresa. Then again, even I will admit that one could legitimately argue that it would be nice if some of the people (uh, I mean governments, or wanna-be governments) we support were a little (or even a lot) better human-rights wise, too. So are you going to revise your fee schedule to reflect the current US/CAN dollar rate, or stick to what your father objected to 1000 years ago? Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:18:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_67.a675f66.2b84519c_boundary" --part1_67.a675f66.2b84519c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:15:19 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: > and ignore the fact that the people (uh, excuse me, the governments) we're > in conflict with are not all exactly Mother Teresa. I, for one, support the President's plan to go in and bomb Mother Teresa. Sign me, my luck has never been as good as when I got #2 in the 1969 draft lottery --part1_67.a675f66.2b84519c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:15:19 PM, [log in to unmask] COM writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">and ignore the fact that the pe= ople (uh, excuse me, the governments) we're in conflict with are not all exa= ctly Mother Teresa</BLOCKQUOTE>.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BAC= KGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I, for one, support the Pres= ident's plan to go in and bomb Mother Teresa. <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Sign me, my luck has n= ever been as good as when I got #2 in the 1969 draft lottery<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_67.a675f66.2b84519c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:48:27 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d8.319b3c5.2b84588b_boundary" --part1_1d8.319b3c5.2b84588b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:19:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I got #2 in the 1969 draft lottery > Damn you people are old. I guess I will have to start referring to everyone as sir and ma'am. Sign me, Whipper Snapper --part1_1d8.319b3c5.2b84588b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:19:49 PM Easte= rn Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">I got #2 in the 1969 draft lottery<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Damn you people are old. I guess I will have to start referring to everyone=20= as sir and ma'am.<BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> Whipper Snapper</FONT></HTML> --part1_1d8.319b3c5.2b84588b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:27:04 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2D78C.19F0CD00" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2D78C.19F0CD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I, for one, support the President's plan to go in and bomb Mother = Teresa. =20 Sign me, my luck has never been as good as when I got #2 in the 1969 = draft lottery This sounds like the radio comic I heard the other day who was = discussing the terrible suffering and poverty existing in some places in = the world, and the eagerness of some better off folks to try to help = out, and then suggested they try to solve the problem by feeding the = hungry to the poor. cp (now going out to dinner) in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2D78C.19F0CD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT=20 face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff" face=3DArial=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT = lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">I, for one, support the President's plan to go in = and bomb=20 Mother Teresa. <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Sign = me, my luck has=20 never been as good as when I got #2 in the 1969 draft=20 lottery<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This sounds like the radio comic I = heard the other=20 day who was discussing the terrible suffering and poverty = existing in=20 some places in the world, and the eagerness of some better off folks to = try to=20 help out, and then suggested they try to solve the = problem=20 by feeding the hungry to the poor.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp (now going out to dinner) in=20 bc</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2D78C.19F0CD00-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:33:57 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Workshop Cost: Historic Wood Flooring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2D78D.0FD568C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2D78D.0FD568C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > So are you going to revise your fee schedule to reflect the current = US/CAN dollar rate, or stick to what your father objected to 1000 years ago? > > Ralph Obviously the best medicine is to admit all dues payig BP'ers free as a membership benefit. Canada just needs more Loonies. cp in free bc PS: a loonie is the name for a canadian dollar in case you didn't know ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2D78D.0FD568C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> So are you going to revise your = fee schedule=20 to reflect the current US/CAN<BR>dollar rate, or stick to what your = father=20 objected to 1000 years ago?<BR>><BR>> Ralph<BR><BR>Obviously the = best=20 medicine is to admit all dues payig BP'ers free as a<BR>membership=20 benefit. Canada just needs more Loonies.<BR><BR>cp in free=20 bc<BR><BR><FONT size=3D1>PS: a loonie is the name for a canadian = dollar in=20 case you didn't know</FONT><BR></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2D78D.0FD568C0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 06:53:02 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The way this country was designed the Pres. isn't supposed to decide at all. The decision should come from the congress and it isn't a question of leading but serving. These elected officials are there, in theory, to serve their constituents. So maybe in this democracy?????, polls should account for something. Before WW II foreign policy was decided by the northeast and the bankers (our interests - check Smedley Butler ) and after was decided by the southwest (oil). I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response > Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that > this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would > consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin Powell. > > Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that > I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. > My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve > problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term > damage than words. > > But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. > > -jc > > > On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: > > > Is it our duty? > > > > <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:14:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_177.1633d8e4.2b84cf3a_boundary" --part1_177.1633d8e4.2b84cf3a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in > the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. > That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the oil. Sign me, Dirty oil, baby killer supporter --part1_177.1633d8e4.2b84cf3a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in<BR> the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I guess if w= e were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the oil.<BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> Dirty oil, baby killer supporter</FONT></HTML> --part1_177.1633d8e4.2b84cf3a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:31:31 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01C2D7E8.EBF5BC50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C2D7E8.EBF5BC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea?=20 Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D Chickenshit jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I = guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the = oil. Sign me, Dirty oil, baby killer supporter ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C2D7E8.EBF5BC50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack = N. Korea?=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D=20 Chickenshit</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, = 2003 7:14=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT">In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM = Eastern=20 Standard Time, <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>=20 writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE"></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff" face=3DArial=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">I heard at the time = that Nam was all=20 about oil cause in<BR>the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large = as the=20 Saudi's.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3D"Comic Sans MS" = color=3D#000000 size=3D3=20 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT"><BR>That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers = can come up=20 with. I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be = for the=20 oil.<BR><BR>Sign me,<BR>Dirty oil, baby killer supporter</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C2D7E8.EBF5BC50-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:08:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: your helping hand needed!!! X-To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e.a8f6453.2b84dbe2_boundary" --part1_1e.a8f6453.2b84dbe2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2/19/03 3:03 AM Eastern Beauty Contestant Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Dear, > I am mrs rose savimbi please i need your help since after the incidence > that lead to the death of my late husband MRJONAS ESAVIMBI of unita of > Angola I know we have not met before but I am contacting you with due sense > of humanity responsibility and the few awareness that you will give it a > mutual understanding > I am soliciting for an assistance to move the sum $24 million USD to your > country for investment Mrs. Savimbi!! This is a hell of a coincidence, because Jonas and I tossed back many a mug of Palm Wine when I was a Navy Seal, on leave via the CIA to serve as your late husband's bodyguard/valet/card shuffler. Which leads me to a difficult point, also a coincidence -- Mr. Savimbi, may his name be praised, actually lost quite a bit of money to me the night before I left, in a pinochle game. The amount - well, it just happened to be ... $24 million. Please forward this amount to my Financial Officer, Mr. Cuyler Saskatchewan, in either American dollars or loonies, as soon as it is convenient. Sincerely, Christopher "Dime at a Grand" Gray --part1_1e.a8f6453.2b84dbe2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">On 2/19/03 3:03 AM Eastern Beauty Contestant Tim= e, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE styl= e=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PA= DDING-LEFT: 5px">Dear,<BR> I am mrs rose savimbi please i need your help since after the incidence that= lead to the death of my late husband MRJONAS ESAVIMBI of unita of Angola I=20= know we have not met before but I am contacting you with due sense of humani= ty responsibility and the few awareness that you will give it a mutual under= standing<BR> I am soliciting for an assistance to move the sum $24 million USD to your co= untry for investment </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Mrs. Savimbi!! This is a hell of a coincidence, because Jonas and I to= ssed back many a mug of Palm Wine when I was a Navy Seal, on leave via the C= IA to serve as your late husband's bodyguard/valet/card shuffler.  = ; Which leads me to a difficult point, also a coincidence -- Mr. Savimbi, ma= y his name be praised, actually lost quite a bit of money to me the night be= fore I left, in a pinochle game. The amount - well, it just happened t= o be ... $24 million. Please forward this amount to my Financial Offic= er, Mr. Cuyler Saskatchewan, in either American dollars or loonies, as soon=20= as it is convenient. <BR> <BR> Sincerely, Christopher "Dime at a Grand" Gray</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e.a8f6453.2b84dbe2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:09:08 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e4.35453d50.2b84dbf4_boundary" --part1_e4.35453d50.2b84dbf4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the oil. More likely it would be for the water. ][<en --part1_e4.35453d50.2b84dbf4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antar= ctica it would be for the oil.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKG= ROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">More likely it would be for=20= the water. ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_e4.35453d50.2b84dbf4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:12:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8.34683a4c.2b84dca0_boundary" --part1_8.34683a4c.2b84dca0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/03 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in the gulf of Tonkin > are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. Yeah, Jim, so what happened to that theory? Seems like we are still wasting gas, even though the Cong won. Best, Christopher --part1_8.34683a4c.2b84dca0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/03 6:53:27 AM Eastern St= andard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I heard at the time that Nam wa= s all about oil cause in the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the= Saudi's.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Yeah, Jim, so what happened to that theory? Seems like we are still wa= sting gas, even though the Cong won. Best, Christopher </FONT></= HTML> --part1_8.34683a4c.2b84dca0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:16:10 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: your helping hand needed!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_74.2ae6edef.2b84dd9a_boundary" --part1_74.2ae6edef.2b84dd9a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the night before I left, in a pinochle game. The amount - well, it just happened to be ... $24 million. Christopher: Sounds as if we have here a reincarnation of the venerable Flashman. Are these epic responses being collected for a future anthology? They should be. ][<en --part1_74.2ae6edef.2b84dd9a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">the night before I left, in a pinochle game.&nbs= p; The amount - well, it just happened to be ... $24 million.</BLOCKQUOTE></= FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 F= AMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Christopher: Sounds as if we have here a reincarnation of the venerable Flas= hman. Are these epic responses being collected for a future anthology? They=20= should be. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_74.2ae6edef.2b84dd9a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:18:47 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: your helping hand needed!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a8.1893d591.2b84de37_boundary" --part1_a8.1893d591.2b84de37_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/03 8:17:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Are these epic responses being collected for a future anthology? No, but the strange thing is I reply to almost all I get (often quite "seriously") and ... I never get a reply. C --part1_a8.1893d591.2b84de37_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/03 8:17:17 AM Eastern St= andard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Are these epic responses being=20= collected for a future anthology?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BA= CKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> No, but the strange thing is I reply to almost all I get (often quite "serio= usly") and ... I never get a reply. C </FONT></HTML> --part1_a8.1893d591.2b84de37_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:11:00 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <007801c2d812$d4e3b920$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-781067258 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-4-781067258 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the job when he had Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff is smart enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there are more than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably a more significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a threat. And if we must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at a time better than all at once? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:31 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea? > Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk = Chickenshit > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in > the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. > > > > That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I > guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the > oil. > > Sign me, > Dirty oil, baby killer supporter > --Apple-Mail-4-781067258 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the job when he had Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff is smart enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there are more than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably a more significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a threat. And if we must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at a time better than all at once? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:31 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea?</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk = Chickenshit</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>jh</smaller></fontfamily> ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[log in to unmask]</color></underline> <bold>To:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[log in to unmask]</color></underline> <bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution <fontfamily><param>Comic Sans MS</param>In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[log in to unmask]</color></underline> writes: </fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. </smaller></color></fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Comic Sans MS</param> <color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the oil. Sign me, Dirty oil, baby killer supporter</color></fontfamily> </excerpt> --Apple-Mail-4-781067258-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:16:49 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <001001c2d80d$74d51010$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The president is the commander in chief. There certainly are decisions he is required to make. The Congress pays the bills and advises and sometimes consents. One certainly can serve and lead at the same time. And I hope many will. The ones who keep checking to see which way the wind blows drive me nutz. Lead, follow or get out of the way and let someone else do it. We are creeping up on a personal peeve. I'm discusted by representatives who go to washington to do what is good for Minnesota...and locals who go to saint Paul to do what is good for the city. Damn it, I want senators and representatives to do what is good for the U.S. Not only when its good for Minnesota...but especially when its bad. That's called courage, conviction and leadership. Maybe he won't get reelected...is that so bad? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 05:53 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > The way this country was designed the Pres. isn't supposed to decide > at all. > The decision should come from the congress and it isn't a question of > leading but serving. These elected officials are there, in theory, to > serve > their constituents. So maybe in this democracy?????, polls should > account > for something. Before WW II foreign policy was decided by the > northeast and > the bankers (our interests - check Smedley Butler ) and after was > decided by > the southwest (oil). I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil > cause in > the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. > jh > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response > > >> Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that >> this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would >> consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin >> Powell. >> >> Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that >> I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. >> My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve >> problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term >> damage than words. >> >> But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. >> >> -jc >> >> >> On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: >> >>> Is it our duty? >>> >>> <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >> >> >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:27:47 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a5.1056115b.2b84e053_boundary" --part1_1a5.1056115b.2b84e053_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 7:32:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea? > Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk = Chickenshit > Well, first he has to rebuild the military that your man Bill Clinton practically dismantled. Let us hope that N. Korea is only blowing hot air about their nukes that your hero funded and helped them to develop. Spineless appeasers = the real chickenshits. Plus Bush would not want to overwhelm the appeasers. They're too busy polishing Iraqi sausage right now. After they finish that they will then be able to move on to some Korean sausage. Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong really appreciate your concern for their safety. I have an excellent idea, why don't all of you appeasers take a one way flight to Baghdad and become human shields. Steve --part1_1a5.1056115b.2b84e053_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 7:32:34 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea? </FONT><FON= T COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"= SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Just too chicken shit? Chick= enhawk =3D Chickenshit</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-CO= LOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Well, first he has to rebuild the military that your man Bill Clinton practi= cally dismantled. Let us hope that N. Korea is only blowing hot air about th= eir nukes that your hero funded and helped them to develop. Spineless appeas= ers =3D the real chickenshits. Plus Bush would not want to overwhelm the app= easers. They're too busy polishing Iraqi sausage right now. After they finis= h that they will then be able to move on to some Korean sausage. Saddam Huss= ein and Kim Jong really appreciate your concern for their safety. I have an=20= excellent idea, why don't all of you appeasers take a one way flight to Bagh= dad and become human shields.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_1a5.1056115b.2b84e053_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:33:20 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2D7F1.8F1196E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2D7F1.8F1196E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems to me that the Saudi's are more of a threat since they were the = majority or the hijackers and funders of terrorism and since they don't = have wmd's it would be prudent to attack them also since we already have = troops there. SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit". Also we should take Kuait and get some of those gold toilet bowls. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the job when he had = Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff is smart = enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there are = more than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably a = more significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a threat. = And if we must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at a time = better than all at once? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:31 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea? Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D Chickenshit jh ----- Original Message ----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I = guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the = oil. Sign me, Dirty oil, baby killer supporter ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2D7F1.8F1196E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It seems to me that the Saudi's are = more of a=20 threat since they were the majority or the hijackers and funders of = terrorism and since they don't have wmd's it would be prudent to attack = them=20 also since we already have troops there. SH is a bit of a shit but he's = "our=20 shit".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also we should take Kuait and get = some of=20 those gold toilet bowls.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John=20 Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, = 2003 8:11=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the job = when he=20 had Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff is = smart=20 enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there are = more than=20 one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably a more = significant=20 threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a threat. And if we must do = this=20 alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at a time better than all at=20 once?<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR>On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:31 AM, = Jim=20 Hicks wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>So why isn't Mr. Bush = going=20 to attack N. Korea?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>Just=20 too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D = Chickenshit<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>jh<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>-----=20 Original Message -----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U><BR><B>To:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U><BR>= <B>Sent:</B>=20 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq = response=20 & Constitution<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Comic Sans MS>In a = message=20 dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U>=20 writes:<BR><BR><?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000><?smaller>I=20 heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in<BR>the gulf of = Tonkin=20 are oil reserves as large as the = Saudi's.<BR><?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Comic = Sans MS><BR><BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>That's=20 the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I guess if = we were=20 to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the = oil.<BR><BR>Sign=20 me,<BR>Dirty oil, baby killer=20 = supporter<?/color><?/fontfamily><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>= </HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2D7F1.8F1196E0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:34:51 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2D7F1.C539B9A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2D7F1.C539B9A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I realy, realy don't know what the f you are trying to say. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Met History=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:12 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/03 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in the gulf of = Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. Yeah, Jim, so what happened to that theory? Seems like we are still = wasting gas, even though the Cong won. Best, Christopher ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2D7F1.C539B9A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I realy, realy don't know what the f = you are trying=20 to say.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Met = History</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, = 2003 8:12=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">In a message dated 2/19/03 6:53:27 AM = Eastern Standard=20 Time, <A = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>=20 writes:<BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in = the gulf=20 of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the=20 Saudi's.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#000000 size=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SERIF"><BR>Yeah, Jim, so=20 what happened to that theory? Seems like we are still wasting = gas, even=20 though the Cong won. Best, Christopher=20 </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2D7F1.C539B9A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:36:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c5.54ab6f8.2b84e271_boundary" --part1_1c5.54ab6f8.2b84e271_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:34:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > It seems to me that the Saudi's are more of a threat since they were the > majority or the hijackers and funders of terrorism and since they don't > have wmd's it would be prudent to attack them also since we already have > troops there. I agree 100%. We can no longer trust the Saudi's. Steve --part1_1c5.54ab6f8.2b84e271_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:34:36 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">It seems to me that the Saudi's are more of a threat since=20= they were the majority or the hijackers and funders of terrorism and since t= hey don't have wmd's it would be prudent to attack them also since we alread= y have troops there.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I agree 100%. We can no longer trust the Saudi's.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c5.54ab6f8.2b84e271_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:36:12 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Score, Robert" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-e30304fd-22db-44ab-9c68-f713d6771d95" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------=_NextPartTM-000-e30304fd-22db-44ab-9c68-f713d6771d95 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D81B.DE22E2A0" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D81B.DE22E2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Also if I remember correctly some of the 911 terrorist entered through canada, so we might as well bomb the hell out of canada, and while we are at it lets wipe logan airport off the map so that no more planes leaving that airport can be highjacked -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hicks [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:33 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution It seems to me that the Saudi's are more of a threat since they were the majority or the hijackers and funders of terrorism and since they don't have wmd's it would be prudent to attack them also since we already have troops there. SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit". Also we should take Kuait and get some of those gold toilet bowls. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: John Callan <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the job when he had Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff is smart enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there are more than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably a more significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a threat. And if we must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at a time better than all at once? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:31 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk = Chickenshit<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>jh<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> ----- Original Message ----- From: <?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color> To: <?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution <?fontfamily><?param Comic Sans MS>In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, <?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color> writes: <?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000><?smaller>I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. <?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Comic Sans MS> <?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the oil. Sign me, Dirty oil, baby killer supporter<?/color><?/fontfamily> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D81B.DE22E2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D20323413-19022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Also if=20 I remember correctly some of the 911 terrorist entered through canada, = so we=20 might as well bomb the hell out of canada, and while we are at it = lets=20 wipe logan airport off the map so that no more planes leaving that = airport can=20 be highjacked</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jim Hicks=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February = 19, 2003=20 7:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20 [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq = response=20 & Constitution<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It seems to me that the Saudi's are = more of a=20 threat since they were the majority or the hijackers and funders = of=20 terrorism and since they don't have wmd's it would be prudent to = attack them=20 also since we already have troops there. SH is a bit of a shit but = he's "our=20 shit".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also we should take Kuait and = get some of=20 those gold toilet bowls.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PIN= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February = 19, 2003 8:11=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the = job when=20 he had Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff = is smart=20 enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there = are more=20 than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably a = more=20 significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a threat. = And if we=20 must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at a time better = than all=20 at once?<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR>On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at = 06:31 AM, Jim=20 Hicks wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>So why isn't Mr. = Bush=20 going to attack N. = Korea?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>Just=20 too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D = Chickenshit<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>jh<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>-----=20 Original Message -----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U><BR><B>To:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U><BR= ><B>Sent:</B>=20 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq = response=20 & Constitution<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Comic Sans MS>In a = message=20 dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, = <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U>=20 writes:<BR><BR><?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000><?smaller>I=20 heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in<BR>the gulf = of=20 Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the = Saudi's.<BR><?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param = Comic Sans MS><BR><BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>That's=20 the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I guess = if we=20 were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the = oil.<BR><BR>Sign=20 me,<BR>Dirty oil, baby killer=20 = supporter<?/color><?/fontfamily><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOC= KQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D81B.DE22E2A0-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-e30304fd-22db-44ab-9c68-f713d6771d95-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:40:14 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That he won't get to steal the next election isn't so bad but in your senario who gets to decide what's good for the US? Your frustration with all politics being local just goes with the territory. If you want central planning go back to Russia where you belong. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:16 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > The president is the commander in chief. There certainly are decisions > he is required to make. The Congress pays the bills and advises and > sometimes consents. One certainly can serve and lead at the same time. > And I hope many will. The ones who keep checking to see which way the > wind blows drive me nutz. Lead, follow or get out of the way and let > someone else do it. > > We are creeping up on a personal peeve. I'm discusted by > representatives who go to washington to do what is good for > Minnesota...and locals who go to saint Paul to do what is good for the > city. Damn it, I want senators and representatives to do what is good > for the U.S. Not only when its good for Minnesota...but especially > when its bad. That's called courage, conviction and leadership. Maybe > he won't get reelected...is that so bad? > > -jc > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 05:53 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > > The way this country was designed the Pres. isn't supposed to decide > > at all. > > The decision should come from the congress and it isn't a question of > > leading but serving. These elected officials are there, in theory, to > > serve > > their constituents. So maybe in this democracy?????, polls should > > account > > for something. Before WW II foreign policy was decided by the > > northeast and > > the bankers (our interests - check Smedley Butler ) and after was > > decided by > > the southwest (oil). I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil > > cause in > > the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. > > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM > > Subject: Re: Iraq response > > > > > >> Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that > >> this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would > >> consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin > >> Powell. > >> > >> Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that > >> I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. > >> My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve > >> problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term > >> damage than words. > >> > >> But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. > >> > >> -jc > >> > >> > >> On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: > >> > >>> Is it our duty? > >>> > >>> <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> > >> > >> -- > >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > >> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:43:13 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And Congress declares war not the Pres. Commander and Chief doesn't mean the licence to declare war. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:16 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > The president is the commander in chief. There certainly are decisions > he is required to make. The Congress pays the bills and advises and > sometimes consents. One certainly can serve and lead at the same time. > And I hope many will. The ones who keep checking to see which way the > wind blows drive me nutz. Lead, follow or get out of the way and let > someone else do it. > > We are creeping up on a personal peeve. I'm discusted by > representatives who go to washington to do what is good for > Minnesota...and locals who go to saint Paul to do what is good for the > city. Damn it, I want senators and representatives to do what is good > for the U.S. Not only when its good for Minnesota...but especially > when its bad. That's called courage, conviction and leadership. Maybe > he won't get reelected...is that so bad? > > -jc > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 05:53 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > > The way this country was designed the Pres. isn't supposed to decide > > at all. > > The decision should come from the congress and it isn't a question of > > leading but serving. These elected officials are there, in theory, to > > serve > > their constituents. So maybe in this democracy?????, polls should > > account > > for something. Before WW II foreign policy was decided by the > > northeast and > > the bankers (our interests - check Smedley Butler ) and after was > > decided by > > the southwest (oil). I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil > > cause in > > the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. > > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM > > Subject: Re: Iraq response > > > > > >> Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that > >> this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would > >> consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin > >> Powell. > >> > >> Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit that > >> I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. > >> My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence solve > >> problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term > >> damage than words. > >> > >> But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. > >> > >> -jc > >> > >> > >> On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: > >> > >>> Is it our duty? > >>> > >>> <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> > >> > >> -- > >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > >> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:51:27 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2D7F4.169E2450" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2D7F4.169E2450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable God, I was hoping somone would bring BC into all of this. Thankyou, jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 7:32:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea?=20 Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D Chickenshit Well, first he has to rebuild the military that your man Bill Clinton = practically dismantled. Let us hope that N. Korea is only blowing hot = air about their nukes that your hero funded and helped them to develop. = Spineless appeasers =3D the real chickenshits. Plus Bush would not want = to overwhelm the appeasers. They're too busy polishing Iraqi sausage = right now. After they finish that they will then be able to move on to = some Korean sausage. Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong really appreciate your = concern for their safety. I have an excellent idea, why don't all of you = appeasers take a one way flight to Baghdad and become human shields. Steve ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2D7F4.169E2450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>God, I was hoping somone would bring BC = into all of=20 this.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thankyou,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, = 2003 8:27=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT">In a message dated 2/19/2003 7:32:34 AM = Eastern=20 Standard Time, <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>=20 writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE"></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff" face=3DArial=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">So why isn't Mr. Bush = going to=20 attack N. Korea? </FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff"=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D=20 Chickenshit</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT=20 lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3D"Comic Sans MS" = color=3D#000000=20 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT"><BR>Well, first he has to rebuild the = military that=20 your man Bill Clinton practically dismantled. Let us hope that N. = Korea is=20 only blowing hot air about their nukes that your hero funded and = helped them=20 to develop. Spineless appeasers =3D the real chickenshits. Plus Bush = would not=20 want to overwhelm the appeasers. They're too busy polishing Iraqi = sausage=20 right now. After they finish that they will then be able to move on to = some=20 Korean sausage. Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong really appreciate your = concern for=20 their safety. I have an excellent idea, why don't all of you appeasers = take a=20 one way flight to Baghdad and become human = shields.<BR><BR>Steve</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2D7F4.169E2450-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:53:14 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2D7F4.567F2380" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2D7F4.567F2380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right the f on. Bomb them all and let god sort it out. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Score, Robert=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution Also if I remember correctly some of the 911 terrorist entered through = canada, so we might as well bomb the hell out of canada, and while we = are at it lets wipe logan airport off the map so that no more planes = leaving that airport can be highjacked -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hicks [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:33 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution It seems to me that the Saudi's are more of a threat since they were = the majority or the hijackers and funders of terrorism and since they = don't have wmd's it would be prudent to attack them also since we = already have troops there. SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit". Also we should take Kuait and get some of those gold toilet bowls. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the job when he had = Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff is smart = enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there are = more than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably a = more significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a threat. = And if we must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at a time = better than all at once? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:31 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea? Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D Chickenshit jh ----- Original Message ----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. = I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the = oil. Sign me, Dirty oil, baby killer supporter ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2D7F4.567F2380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Right the f on. Bomb them all and let = god sort it=20 out.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Score, Robert</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, = 2003 8:36=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D20323413-19022003><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Also=20 if I remember correctly some of the 911 terrorist entered through = canada, so=20 we might as well bomb the hell out of canada, and while we are = at it=20 lets wipe logan airport off the map so that no more planes leaving = that=20 airport can be highjacked</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jim Hicks=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February = 19, 2003=20 7:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 Re: Iraq response & Constitution<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It seems to me that the Saudi's are = more of a=20 threat since they were the majority or the hijackers and = funders of=20 terrorism and since they don't have wmd's it would be prudent to = attack them=20 also since we already have troops there. SH is a bit of a shit but = he's "our=20 shit".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also we should take Kuait and = get some of=20 those gold toilet bowls.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February = 19, 2003=20 8:11 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the = job when=20 he had Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the = staff is=20 smart enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that = there are=20 more than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be = arguably a=20 more significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a = threat. And=20 if we must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at a time = better=20 than all at once?<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR>On Wednesday, February 19, = 2003, at=20 06:31 AM, Jim Hicks wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>So why isn't Mr. = Bush=20 going to attack N. = Korea?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>Just=20 too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D = Chickenshit<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>jh<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>-----=20 Original Message -----<BR><B>From:</B> <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U><BR><B>To:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U><BR>= <B>Sent:</B>=20 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq = response & Constitution<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Comic = Sans MS>In=20 a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, = <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U>=20 writes:<BR><BR><?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000><?smaller>I=20 heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in<BR>the = gulf of=20 Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the = Saudi's.<BR><?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Comic = Sans MS><BR><BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>That's=20 the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I guess = if we=20 were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the=20 oil.<BR><BR>Sign me,<BR>Dirty oil, baby killer = supporter<?/color><?/fontfamily><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK= QUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2D7F4.567F2380-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:57:02 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_67.a704ff1.2b84e72e_boundary" --part1_67.a704ff1.2b84e72e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit God, I was hoping somone would bring BC into all of this. Thankyou, jh Your quite welcome. Steve --part1_67.a704ff1.2b84e72e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">God, I was hoping somone would bring BC into all of th= is.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Thankyou,</FONT><FONT C= OLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANS= SERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">jh</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Your quite welcome.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_67.a704ff1.2b84e72e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:58:25 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <001401c2d81b$78044ea0$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-783911969 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-6-783911969 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed My affection for the Saudi's and others of the region has never=20 amounted to much. I must be an isolationist at heart, I keep thinking=20= its time we kissed and made up with the Mexicans. After all, we have=20 strong an continuing and even healthy family ties. But others may be looking for more problems to deal with, I'm not. =20 Sadam is the problem at hand. And we may stand alone. North Korea is=20= a problem that needs to be dealt with soon. The Saudi's may or may not=20= be a problem...I can't tell. I'll take your word for it. Lead. -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:33 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > It seems to me that the Saudi's are more of a threat since they were=20= > the majority=A0or the hijackers and funders of terrorism and since = they=20 > don't have wmd's it would be prudent to attack them also since we=20 > already have troops there. SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit". > Also we should=A0take Kuait and get some of those gold toilet bowls. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:11 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the job when he had=20 > Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff is smart=20= > enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there are=20= > more than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably=20= > a more significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a=20 > threat. And if we must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at=20= > a time better than all at once? > > -jc > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:31 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea? > Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D Chickenshit > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in > the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. > > > > That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I=20 > guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the=20= > oil. > > Sign me, > Dirty oil, baby killer supporter > --Apple-Mail-6-783911969 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 My affection for the Saudi's and others of the region has never amounted to much. I must be an isolationist at heart, I keep thinking its time we kissed and made up with the Mexicans. After all, we have strong an continuing and even healthy family ties. But others may be looking for more problems to deal with, I'm not.=20 Sadam is the problem at hand. And we may stand alone. North Korea is a problem that needs to be dealt with soon. The Saudi's may or may not be a problem...I can't tell. I'll take your word for it. Lead. -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:33 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>It seems to me that the Saudi's are more of a threat since they were the majority=A0or the hijackers and funders of terrorism and since they don't have wmd's it would be prudent to attack them also since we already have troops there. SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit".</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Also we should=A0take Kuait and get some of those gold toilet bowls.</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>jh</smaller></fontfamily> ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>John Callan</color></underline> <bold>To:</bold> = <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS@MAELSTR= OM.STJOHNS.EDU</color></underline> <bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:11 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the job when he had Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff is smart enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there are more than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably a more significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a threat. And if we must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at a time better than all at once? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:31 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea? Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D Chickenshit jh ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline>[log in to unmask] </underline><bold>To:</bold> <underline>[log in to unmask] </underline><bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, <underline>[log in to unmask]</underline> writes: I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the oil. Sign me, Dirty oil, baby killer supporter </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-6-783911969-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:00:44 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <073658B0FB07D4118C03009027303FC708214CA1@MCCHIEX> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-784051013 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-8-784051013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Not the Canadians?! How cruel and thoughtless! Who else could=20 tolerate us? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:36 AM, Score, Robert wrote: > Also if I remember correctly some of the 911 terrorist entered through=20= > canada, so we might as well bomb the hell out of canada,=A0 and while = we=20 > are at it lets wipe logan airport off the map so that no more planes=20= > leaving that airport can be highjacked > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Hicks [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:33 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > It seems to me that the Saudi's are more of a threat since they were=20= > the majority=A0or the hijackers and funders of terrorism and since = they=20 > don't have wmd's it would be prudent to attack them also since we=20 > already have troops there. SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit". > Also we should=A0take Kuait and get some of those gold toilet bowls. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:11 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the job when he had=20 > Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff is smart=20= > enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there are=20= > more than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably=20= > a more significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a=20 > threat. And if we must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at=20= > a time better than all at once? > > -jc > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:31 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea? > Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D Chickenshit > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in > the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. > > > > That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I=20 > guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the=20= > oil. > > Sign me, > Dirty oil, baby killer supporter > --Apple-Mail-8-784051013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not the Canadians?! How cruel and thoughtless! Who else could tolerate us? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:36 AM, Score, Robert wrote: = <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</par= am><smaller>Also if I remember correctly some of the 911 terrorist entered through canada, so we might as well bomb the hell out of canada,=A0 and while we are at it lets wipe logan airport off the map so that no more planes leaving that airport can be highjacked</smaller></color></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><smaller>-----Original Message----- <bold>From:</bold> Jim Hicks [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:33 AM <bold>To:</bold> [log in to unmask] <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution </smaller></fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>It seems to me that the Saudi's are more of a threat since they were the majority=A0or the hijackers and funders of terrorism and since they don't have wmd's it would be prudent to attack them also since we already have troops there. SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our = shit".</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Also we should=A0take Kuait and get some of those gold toilet bowls.</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>jh</smaller></fontfamily> ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>John Callan</color></underline> <bold>To:</bold> = <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS@MAELSTR= OM.STJOHNS.EDU</color></underline> <bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:11 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution If his old man got lambasted for not finishing the job when he had Sadam by the short and curlies...surely someone on the staff is smart enough to advise him not to get distracted. It may be that there are more than one adversary to deal with. And North Korea may be arguably a more significant threat. But that doesn't mean Sadam is not a threat. And if we must do this alone...or nearly alone...isn't one at a time better than all at once? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:31 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: So why isn't Mr. Bush going to attack N. Korea? Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk =3D Chickenshit jh ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline>[log in to unmask] </underline><bold>To:</bold> <underline>[log in to unmask] </underline><bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:14 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, <underline>[log in to unmask]</underline> writes: I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil cause in the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. That's the only excuse the Peacenik appeasers can come up with. I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the oil. Sign me, Dirty oil, baby killer supporter </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-8-784051013-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:04:58 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <002601c2d81c$6e874d40$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nobody's said anything like that to me in a long time! For too long everyone has been complaining about my drift to the right! I have to listen to Rush L now and then just to make sure I he doesn't make any sense...sort of check my bearings. He makes a good bouy. I belong here. Don't piss me off. -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:40 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > That he won't get to steal the next election isn't so bad but in your > senario who gets to decide what's good for the US? Your frustration > with all > politics being local just goes with the territory. If you want central > planning go back to Russia where you belong. > jh > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:16 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > >> The president is the commander in chief. There certainly are >> decisions >> he is required to make. The Congress pays the bills and advises and >> sometimes consents. One certainly can serve and lead at the same >> time. >> And I hope many will. The ones who keep checking to see which way >> the >> wind blows drive me nutz. Lead, follow or get out of the way and let >> someone else do it. >> >> We are creeping up on a personal peeve. I'm discusted by >> representatives who go to washington to do what is good for >> Minnesota...and locals who go to saint Paul to do what is good for the >> city. Damn it, I want senators and representatives to do what is good >> for the U.S. Not only when its good for Minnesota...but especially >> when its bad. That's called courage, conviction and leadership. >> Maybe >> he won't get reelected...is that so bad? >> >> -jc >> >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 05:53 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: >> >>> The way this country was designed the Pres. isn't supposed to decide >>> at all. >>> The decision should come from the congress and it isn't a question of >>> leading but serving. These elected officials are there, in theory, to >>> serve >>> their constituents. So maybe in this democracy?????, polls should >>> account >>> for something. Before WW II foreign policy was decided by the >>> northeast and >>> the bankers (our interests - check Smedley Butler ) and after was >>> decided by >>> the southwest (oil). I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil >>> cause in >>> the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. >>> jh >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM >>> Subject: Re: Iraq response >>> >>> >>>> Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that >>>> this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would >>>> consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin >>>> Powell. >>>> >>>> Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit >>>> that >>>> I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. >>>> My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence >>>> solve >>>> problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term >>>> damage than words. >>>> >>>> But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. >>>> >>>> -jc >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is it our duty? >>>>> >>>>> <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>>> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >>> >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >> >> >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:05:33 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <002e01c2d81c$d9874500$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree. I think. On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:43 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > And Congress declares war not the Pres. Commander and Chief doesn't > mean the > licence to declare war. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:16 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > >> The president is the commander in chief. There certainly are >> decisions >> he is required to make. The Congress pays the bills and advises and >> sometimes consents. One certainly can serve and lead at the same >> time. >> And I hope many will. The ones who keep checking to see which way >> the >> wind blows drive me nutz. Lead, follow or get out of the way and let >> someone else do it. >> >> We are creeping up on a personal peeve. I'm discusted by >> representatives who go to washington to do what is good for >> Minnesota...and locals who go to saint Paul to do what is good for the >> city. Damn it, I want senators and representatives to do what is good >> for the U.S. Not only when its good for Minnesota...but especially >> when its bad. That's called courage, conviction and leadership. >> Maybe >> he won't get reelected...is that so bad? >> >> -jc >> >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 05:53 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: >> >>> The way this country was designed the Pres. isn't supposed to decide >>> at all. >>> The decision should come from the congress and it isn't a question of >>> leading but serving. These elected officials are there, in theory, to >>> serve >>> their constituents. So maybe in this democracy?????, polls should >>> account >>> for something. Before WW II foreign policy was decided by the >>> northeast and >>> the bankers (our interests - check Smedley Butler ) and after was >>> decided by >>> the southwest (oil). I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil >>> cause in >>> the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. >>> jh >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM >>> Subject: Re: Iraq response >>> >>> >>>> Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that >>>> this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would >>>> consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin >>>> Powell. >>>> >>>> Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit >>>> that >>>> I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. >>>> My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence >>>> solve >>>> problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term >>>> damage than words. >>>> >>>> But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. >>>> >>>> -jc >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is it our duty? >>>>> >>>>> <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>>> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >>> >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >> >> >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:10:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_72.2a6d78f9.2b84ea6b_boundary" --part1_72.2a6d78f9.2b84ea6b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:41:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > That he won't get to steal the next election isn't so bad but in your > senario who gets to decide what's good for the US? I guess the elections of Nov. 2002 when all of those Democrats were kicked to the curb were also stolen by Republicans? Steve --part1_72.2a6d78f9.2b84ea6b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:41:03 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">That he won't get to steal the next election isn't so bad b= ut in your<BR> senario who gets to decide what's good for the US?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I guess the elections of Nov. 2002 when all of those Democrats were kicked t= o the curb were also stolen by Republicans? <BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_72.2a6d78f9.2b84ea6b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:36:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d9.3245982.2b84f077_boundary" --part1_1d9.3245982.2b84f077_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/03 8:54:13 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > Right the f on. Bomb them all and let god sort it out. > Or, we could bomb God. Yrs devotedly, Apparently We Don't All Agree On This One, As We Do On, Say, Single Spacing --part1_1d9.3245982.2b84f077_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/03 8:54:13 AM, jimhicks@= JIM-HICKS.COM writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Right the f on. Bomb them a= ll and let god sort it out.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Or, we could bomb God. <BR> <BR>Yrs devotedly,=20 <BR> <BR>Apparently We Don't All Agree On This One, As We Do On, Say, Single Spac= ing</FONT></HTML> --part1_1d9.3245982.2b84f077_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:38:50 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01C2D80B.78B3E2D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C2D80B.78B3E2D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Demlicans got what they deserved, as did we. But I don't see how the = elections of 2002 are eqivalent to the voting eregularities that G.B's = bro pulled off in Fla. Don't get me wrong, I think the Dems are a bunch = of dickless (or pussiewhipped) wonders. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:41:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: That he won't get to steal the next election isn't so bad but in = your senario who gets to decide what's good for the US? I guess the elections of Nov. 2002 when all of those Democrats were = kicked to the curb were also stolen by Republicans?=20 Steve ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C2D80B.78B3E2D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Demlicans got what they deserved, = as did we.=20 But I don't see how the elections of 2002 are eqivalent to the voting=20 eregularities that G.B's bro pulled off in Fla. Don't get me wrong, I = think the=20 Dems are a bunch of dickless (or pussiewhipped) wonders.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, = 2003 9:10=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:41:03 AM = Eastern=20 Standard Time, <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>=20 writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE"></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff" face=3DArial=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">That he won't get to = steal the next=20 election isn't so bad but in your<BR>senario who gets to decide = what's good=20 for the US?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3D"Comic Sans MS" = color=3D#000000 size=3D3=20 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT"><BR>I guess the elections of Nov. 2002 when all of = those=20 Democrats were kicked to the curb were also stolen by Republicans?=20 <BR><BR>Steve</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C2D80B.78B3E2D0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:41:28 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2D80B.D6EF1DB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2D80B.D6EF1DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable or we could gomb, bog. i'm having such a good time i think i'm going to drop a log. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Met History=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/03 8:54:13 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:=20 Right the f on. Bomb them all and let god sort it out.=20 Or, we could bomb God. =20 Yrs devotedly,=20 Apparently We Don't All Agree On This One, As We Do On, Say, Single = Spacing ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2D80B.D6EF1DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or we could gomb, bog.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i'm having such a good time i think i'm = going to=20 drop a log.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Met = History</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, = 2003 9:36=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">In a message dated 2/19/03 8:54:13 AM, <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> = writes:=20 <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">Right the f on. Bomb them all and let god sort it=20 out.</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">=20 <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Times New Roman" = color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">Or, we could bomb God. = <BR><BR>Yrs=20 devotedly, <BR><BR>Apparently We Don't All Agree On This One, As We Do = On,=20 Say, Single Spacing</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2D80B.D6EF1DB0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:44:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_20.a93f836.2b850e50_boundary" --part1_20.a93f836.2b850e50_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, You mean you're not Dumdacrat? Steve --part1_20.a93f836.2b850e50_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Jim,<BR> <BR> You mean you're not Dumdacrat?<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_20.a93f836.2b850e50_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:48:05 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think you're commie, I just think you don't understand the constitution. There is too much central planning going on as it is at the present, ie Dickless Cheany (who i've decided is the antichrist) making policy with industrilists whitout oversite, while being on the gov payroll and then refusing to devulge the members of that cabal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > Nobody's said anything like that to me in a long time! For too long > everyone has been complaining about my drift to the right! I have to > listen to Rush L now and then just to make sure I he doesn't make any > sense...sort of check my bearings. He makes a good bouy. > > I belong here. Don't piss me off. > > -jc > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:40 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > > That he won't get to steal the next election isn't so bad but in your > > senario who gets to decide what's good for the US? Your frustration > > with all > > politics being local just goes with the territory. If you want central > > planning go back to Russia where you belong. > > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:16 AM > > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > > > > >> The president is the commander in chief. There certainly are > >> decisions > >> he is required to make. The Congress pays the bills and advises and > >> sometimes consents. One certainly can serve and lead at the same > >> time. > >> And I hope many will. The ones who keep checking to see which way > >> the > >> wind blows drive me nutz. Lead, follow or get out of the way and let > >> someone else do it. > >> > >> We are creeping up on a personal peeve. I'm discusted by > >> representatives who go to washington to do what is good for > >> Minnesota...and locals who go to saint Paul to do what is good for the > >> city. Damn it, I want senators and representatives to do what is good > >> for the U.S. Not only when its good for Minnesota...but especially > >> when its bad. That's called courage, conviction and leadership. > >> Maybe > >> he won't get reelected...is that so bad? > >> > >> -jc > >> > >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 05:53 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > >> > >>> The way this country was designed the Pres. isn't supposed to decide > >>> at all. > >>> The decision should come from the congress and it isn't a question of > >>> leading but serving. These elected officials are there, in theory, to > >>> serve > >>> their constituents. So maybe in this democracy?????, polls should > >>> account > >>> for something. Before WW II foreign policy was decided by the > >>> northeast and > >>> the bankers (our interests - check Smedley Butler ) and after was > >>> decided by > >>> the southwest (oil). I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil > >>> cause in > >>> the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. > >>> jh > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> > >>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM > >>> Subject: Re: Iraq response > >>> > >>> > >>>> Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not that > >>>> this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would > >>>> consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin > >>>> Powell. > >>>> > >>>> Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit > >>>> that > >>>> I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve problems. > >>>> My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence > >>>> solve > >>>> problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term > >>>> damage than words. > >>>> > >>>> But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. > >>>> > >>>> -jc > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Is it our duty? > >>>>> > >>>>> <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > >>>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > >>>> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > >>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > >>> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > >> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:48:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I*** r******* & C********* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e6.2660c79.2b850f49_boundary" --part1_1e6.2660c79.2b850f49_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/03 11:39:57 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > Don't get me wrong, I think the Dems are a bunch of ****less (or > *******whipped) wonders. Vulgarity is the last refuge of a scoundrel - especially misspelled. Yrs. Registered Republican --part1_1e6.2660c79.2b850f49_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/03 11:39:57 AM, jimhicks= @JIM-HICKS.COM writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px so= lid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Don't get me wr= ong, I think the Dems are a bunch of ****less (or *******whipped) wonders.</= FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" L= ANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Vulgarity is the last refuge of a scoundrel - especially misspelled. &nb= sp; <BR> <BR>Yrs. Registered Republican</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e6.2660c79.2b850f49_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:58:08 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <006701c2d836$ac8ef9c0$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So...if I agree with you about Mr. Chaney will it mean that I do understand the constituion, or just that I don't have to be sent to the gulag? -jc PS, so why stop with the Pres and the Congress? If you want direct supervison by "the people", why not sit down at the motor vehicle office and yell at your employees all day? Surely they could benefit from being micromanaged. -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > I don't think you're commie, I just think you don't understand the > constitution. > There is too much central planning going on as it is at the present, ie > Dickless Cheany (who i've decided is the antichrist) making policy with > industrilists whitout oversite, while being on the gov payroll and then > refusing to devulge the members of that cabal. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:04 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > >> Nobody's said anything like that to me in a long time! For too long >> everyone has been complaining about my drift to the right! I have to >> listen to Rush L now and then just to make sure I he doesn't make any >> sense...sort of check my bearings. He makes a good bouy. >> >> I belong here. Don't piss me off. >> >> -jc >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:40 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: >> >>> That he won't get to steal the next election isn't so bad but in your >>> senario who gets to decide what's good for the US? Your frustration >>> with all >>> politics being local just goes with the territory. If you want >>> central >>> planning go back to Russia where you belong. >>> jh >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:16 AM >>> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution >>> >>> >>>> The president is the commander in chief. There certainly are >>>> decisions >>>> he is required to make. The Congress pays the bills and advises and >>>> sometimes consents. One certainly can serve and lead at the same >>>> time. >>>> And I hope many will. The ones who keep checking to see which way >>>> the >>>> wind blows drive me nutz. Lead, follow or get out of the way and >>>> let >>>> someone else do it. >>>> >>>> We are creeping up on a personal peeve. I'm discusted by >>>> representatives who go to washington to do what is good for >>>> Minnesota...and locals who go to saint Paul to do what is good for >>>> the >>>> city. Damn it, I want senators and representatives to do what is >>>> good >>>> for the U.S. Not only when its good for Minnesota...but especially >>>> when its bad. That's called courage, conviction and leadership. >>>> Maybe >>>> he won't get reelected...is that so bad? >>>> >>>> -jc >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 05:53 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: >>>> >>>>> The way this country was designed the Pres. isn't supposed to >>>>> decide >>>>> at all. >>>>> The decision should come from the congress and it isn't a question >>>>> of >>>>> leading but serving. These elected officials are there, in theory, >>>>> to >>>>> serve >>>>> their constituents. So maybe in this democracy?????, polls should >>>>> account >>>>> for something. Before WW II foreign policy was decided by the >>>>> northeast and >>>>> the bankers (our interests - check Smedley Butler ) and after was >>>>> decided by >>>>> the southwest (oil). I heard at the time that Nam was all about oil >>>>> cause in >>>>> the gulf of Tonkin are oil reserves as large as the Saudi's. >>>>> jh >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:54 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Iraq response >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Do you want the President to decide War or Peace by polls? Not >>>>>> that >>>>>> this president has or is likely to ever pursue paths that I would >>>>>> consider good leadership, but I have been deeply swayed by Colin >>>>>> Powell. >>>>>> >>>>>> Before all you peaceniks jump on me, I am deeply ashamed to admit >>>>>> that >>>>>> I have never been one to claim that violence doesn't solve >>>>>> problems. >>>>>> My life experience provides more than ample proof that violence >>>>>> solve >>>>>> problems real good. Sometimes with less humiliation and long term >>>>>> damage than words. >>>>>> >>>>>> But I am suitably embarrassed. Please don't hurt me. >>>>>> >>>>>> -jc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 09:26 PM, William Gould wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it our duty? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Fwd; [Fwd; The White House]> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>>>>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>>>>> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>>>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>>>> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>>> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >>> >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >> >> >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:01:43 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I*** r******* & C********* In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10-794910580 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-10-794910580 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Besides, I thought the last dem president established that they are not=20= ****less, they just can't keep it within the scope of work for the=20 prime contract. -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 2/19/03 11:39:57 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > > Don't get me wrong, I think the Dems are a bunch of ****less (or=20 > *******whipped) wonders. > > > > Vulgarity is the last refuge of a scoundrel - especially misspelled. =A0= > > Yrs. Registered Republican= --Apple-Mail-10-794910580 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Besides, I thought the last dem president established that they are not ****less, they just can't keep it within the scope of work for the prime contract. -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Met History wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/19/03 11:39:57 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily> Don't get me wrong, I think the Dems are a bunch of ****less (or *******whipped) wonders. <fontfamily><param>Times New = Roman</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>Vulgarity is the last refuge of a scoundrel - especially misspelled. =A0 Yrs. Registered Republican</smaller></color></fontfamily></excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-10-794910580-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:03:54 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: 91? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have any idea what we were discussing in 1991? -jc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:30:18 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1dc.327072d.2b85192a_boundary" --part1_1dc.327072d.2b85192a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:19:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Sign me, my luck has never been as good as when I got #2 in the 1969 draft > lottery > Funny, mine's never been as good as when I got something like 324 in the '71 lottery. Ralph --part1_1dc.327072d.2b85192a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:19:49 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Sign me, my luck has neve= r been as good as when I got #2 in the 1969 draft lottery<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Funny, mine's never been as good as when I got something like 324 in the '71= lottery.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1dc.327072d.2b85192a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:32:15 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12a.23305352.2b85199f_boundary" --part1_12a.23305352.2b85199f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:48:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Damn you people are old. I guess I will have to start referring to everyone > as sir and ma'am. > Bet your ass, you better, sonny. Meanwhile, go out and get us a few more beers. If you're old enough, that is. Ralph --part1_12a.23305352.2b85199f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:48:54 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Damn you people are old. I guess I will have to start=20= referring to everyone as sir and ma'am.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Bet your ass, you better, sonny. Meanwhile, go out and get us a few mo= re beers. If you're old enough, that is.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_12a.23305352.2b85199f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:35:48 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------16D88921F09BEA0F0E86F2EA" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------16D88921F09BEA0F0E86F2EA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F2D6267A7B0D8912B2A32614" --------------F2D6267A7B0D8912B2A32614 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [log in to unmask] wrote: > > I agree 100%. We can no longer trust the Saudi's. > > Steve Except to be major shareholders in George I's Carlyle Trust... --------------F2D6267A7B0D8912B2A32614 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <p>[log in to unmask] wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE> <br><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="#000000"><font size=+0>I agree 100%. We can no longer trust the Saudi's.</font></font></font> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="#000000"><font size=+0>Steve</font></font></font></blockquote> Except to be major shareholders in George I's Carlyle Trust...</html> --------------F2D6267A7B0D8912B2A32614-- --------------16D88921F09BEA0F0E86F2EA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------16D88921F09BEA0F0E86F2EA-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:37:28 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-797055451 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2-797055451 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed '71?! That's kinda cute, youngster. Didn't hey pull the plug on the=20 draft in '72? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 11:30 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:19:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Sign me,=A0 my luck has never been as good as when I got #2 in the = 1969=20 > draft lottery > > > > Funny, mine's never been as good as when I got something like 324 in=20= > the '71 lottery. > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-2-797055451 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 '71?! That's kinda cute, youngster. Didn't hey pull the plug on the draft in '72? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 11:30 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:19:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>Sign me,=A0 my luck has never been as good as when I got #2 in the 1969 draft lottery Funny, mine's never been as good as when I got something like 324 in the '71 lottery. Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2-797055451-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:37:35 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4a.185cdf96.2b851adf_boundary" --part1_4a.185cdf96.2b851adf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:02:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > This sounds like the radio comic I heard the other day who was discussing > the terrible suffering and poverty existing in some places in the world, > and the eagerness of some better off folks to try to help out, and then > suggested they try to solve the problem by feeding the hungry to the poor. > Gosh darn it all to heck, Cuyler! Here you and the rest of the Canucks are getting it all backwards again: the poor should be fed to the hungry. Ralph --part1_4a.185cdf96.2b851adf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:02:18 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">This sounds like the radio comi= c I heard the other day who was discussing the terrible suffering and povert= y existing in some places in the world, and the eagerness of some better off= folks to try to help out, and then suggested they try to solve the problem=20= by feeding the hungry to the poor.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"B= ACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Gosh darn it all to heck, Cuyler!<BR> <BR> Here you and the rest of the Canucks are getting it all backwards again:&nbs= p; the poor should be fed to the hungry.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_4a.185cdf96.2b851adf_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:38:33 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2D813.D199EFE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2D813.D199EFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Funny, mine's never been as good as when I got something like 324 in the '71 lottery. Ralph<< 327 here. Beat going to Canada rather than Viet Nam ey? Got to stay home! Rudy ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2D813.D199EFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2D813.D083C4F0"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial = FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><br> <font color=3Dnavy><span = style=3D'color:navy'>>></span></font>Funny, mine's never been as good as when I got something like 324 in the '71 = lottery.<br> <br> Ralph<font color=3Dnavy><span = style=3D'color:navy'><<</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span><span class=3DGramE>327 here.</span> Beat going to Canada rather than Viet Nam = ey? Got to stay home!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Rudy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2D813.D199EFE0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:39:39 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My number was 78 in '72 so I know it lasted that long. -----Original Message----- From: John Callan [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:37 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board '71?! That's kinda cute, youngster. Didn't hey pull the plug on the draft in '72? -jc On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 11:30 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:19:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Sign me, my luck has never been as good as when I got #2 in the 1969 draft lottery Funny, mine's never been as good as when I got something like 324 in the '71 lottery. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:40:14 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop Cost: Historic Wood Flooring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16b.1ae442bf.2b851b7e_boundary" --part1_16b.1ae442bf.2b851b7e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:02:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Obviously the best medicine is to admit all dues payig BP'ers free as a > membership benefit. Canada just needs more Loonies. > Cuyler, Are you suggesting that BP have 2 classes of members: dues payers, and loonies? I think I know in which category most will qualify. By a wide margin. Ralph --part1_16b.1ae442bf.2b851b7e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:02:21 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Obviously the best medicine is=20= to admit all dues payig BP'ers free as a<BR> membership benefit. Canada just needs more Loonies.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Cuyler,<BR> <BR> Are you suggesting that BP have 2 classes of members: dues payers, and looni= es? I think I know in which category most will qualify. By a wid= e margin.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_16b.1ae442bf.2b851b7e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:43:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_161.1c17f138.2b851c4f_boundary" --part1_161.1c17f138.2b851c4f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 7:15:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Dirty oil, baby killer supporter Is that baby humans, or baby seals, or both? And I wouldn't want any of it in my supporter. Even if I had worn one is the last 30 years. Ralph --part1_161.1c17f138.2b851c4f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 7:15:27 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Dirty oil, baby killer supporter</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Is that baby humans, or baby seals, or both? And I wouldn't want any o= f it in my supporter. Even if I had worn one is the last 30 years.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_161.1c17f138.2b851c4f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:40:45 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: mitch wilds <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Callan wrote: > ' Didn't hey pull the plug on the draft in '72? but they kept the lottery around for a couple of more years. sign me, 278 in '73 -- F. Mitchener Wilds, Senior Restoration Specialist Restoration Branch State Historic Preservation Office 919/733-6547 http://www.hpo.dcr.state.nc.us ***My opinions may not be those of my agency.*** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail to and from me, in connection with the transaction of public business, is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:46:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_119.1f5597f9.2b851d11_boundary" --part1_119.1f5597f9.2b851d11_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 7:32:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Just too chicken shit? Chickenhawk = Chickenshit > Jim, You know Dubya has a hard time with long words. Require too much explanation. Ralph --part1_119.1f5597f9.2b851d11_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 7:32:34 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Just too chicken shit? Chickenh= awk =3D Chickenshit</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR= : #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Jim,<BR> <BR> You know Dubya has a hard time with long words. Require too much expla= nation.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_119.1f5597f9.2b851d11_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:48:01 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1db.3278fbb.2b851d51_boundary" --part1_1db.3278fbb.2b851d51_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:09:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the oil. > > > More likely it would be for the water I thought there's a lot of snow down there. Get your stories straight, will ya? Ralph --part1_1db.3278fbb.2b851d51_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:09:37 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it= would be for the oil.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-CO= LOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><= BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">More likely it would be for=20= the water</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-CO= LOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I thought there's a lot of s= now down there. Get your stories straight, will ya?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1db.3278fbb.2b851d51_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:50:11 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c3.308dae85.2b851dd3_boundary" --part1_c3.308dae85.2b851dd3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:33:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Bet your ass, you better, sonny. Meanwhile, go out and get us a few more > beers. If you're old enough, that is. > Smawt ass. Steve --part1_c3.308dae85.2b851dd3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:33:12 PM Easte= rn Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Bet your ass, you better, sonny. Meanwhile, go out an= d get us a few more beers. If you're old enough, that is.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Smawt ass.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_c3.308dae85.2b851dd3_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:52:44 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: your helping hand needed!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7f.32d570f3.2b851e6c_boundary" --part1_7f.32d570f3.2b851e6c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are these epic responses being collected for a future anthology? No, but the strange thing is I reply to almost all I get (often quite "seriously") and ... I never get a reply. C Save them. ][<en --part1_7f.32d570f3.2b851e6c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Are these epic responses being collected for a future=20= anthology?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-C= OLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">No, but the strange th= ing is I reply to almost all I get (often quite "seriously") and ... I never= get a reply. C </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"= BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> <BR> Save them. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_7f.32d570f3.2b851e6c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:54:06 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: your helping hand needed!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_24.37cbf178.2b851ebe_boundary" --part1_24.37cbf178.2b851ebe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:17:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Are these epic responses being collected for a future anthology? Yes, a photographic history of Fifteenth Avenue. I'm editing the text between the pages. Ralph --part1_24.37cbf178.2b851ebe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:17:17 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Are these epic responses being=20= collected for a future anthology?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000= " style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"= Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Yes, a photographic history of Fifteenth Avenue. I'm editing the text=20= between the pages.<BR> <BR> Ralph <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_24.37cbf178.2b851ebe_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:56:36 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_108.1f93e79f.2b851f54_boundary" --part1_108.1f93e79f.2b851f54_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:21:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Maybe he won't get reelected...is that so bad? > John, Depends on who you mean. But on the whole, I think you're right. Ralph --part1_108.1f93e79f.2b851f54_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:21:56 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Maybe he won't get reelected...= is that so bad?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> John,<BR> <BR> Depends on who you mean. But on the whole, I think you're right.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_108.1f93e79f.2b851f54_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:58:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ca.182b7c87.2b851fe1_boundary" --part1_ca.182b7c87.2b851fe1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:34:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit". No, I think he's his own shit, or at least somebody else's, but I don't think he's ours. Although it looks like we're going to have to clean him up. Ralph --part1_ca.182b7c87.2b851fe1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:34:36 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">SH is a bit of a shit but he's=20= "our shit".</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-= COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> No, I think he's his own shit, or at least somebody else's, but I don't thin= k he's ours. Although it looks like we're going to have to clean him u= p.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_ca.182b7c87.2b851fe1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:00:37 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_102.2715b905.2b852045_boundary" --part1_102.2715b905.2b852045_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:37:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I agree 100%. We can no longer trust the Saudi's. > Mr. Republican Military, Whaddaya mean, "no longer?" Ralph --part1_102.2715b905.2b852045_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:37:18 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I agree 100%. We can no longer trust the Saudi's.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Mr. Republican Military,<BR> <BR> Whaddaya mean, "no longer?" <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_102.2715b905.2b852045_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:02:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_192.15de4b97.2b8520a1_boundary" --part1_192.15de4b97.2b8520a1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:38:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > so we might as well bomb the hell out of canada, and while we are at it > lets wipe logan airport off the map Wait a minute. Canada's got oil, and Logan Airport doesn't. We can't bomb them both for different reasons. Ralph --part1_192.15de4b97.2b8520a1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:38:02 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">so we might as well bomb the hell out of canada, and=20= while we are at it lets wipe logan airport off the map </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><= FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Wait a minute. Canada's got oil, and Logan Airport doesn't. We can't b= omb them both for different reasons.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_192.15de4b97.2b8520a1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:04:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_69.3505a701.2b85212c_boundary" --part1_69.3505a701.2b85212c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:41:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > If you want central planning go back to Russia where you belong. > > Wait a minute there, sonny. According to the book I read last week, > Central Planning was invented by Abe Lincoln and the Republicans. > > Ralph --part1_69.3505a701.2b85212c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:41:03 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">If you want central planning go= back to Russia where you belong.<BR> <BR> Wait a minute there, sonny. According to the book I read last week, Ce= ntral Planning was invented by Abe Lincoln and the Republicans.<BR> <BR> Ralph</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_69.3505a701.2b85212c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:07:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a4.10af6efc.2b8521f6_boundary" --part1_1a4.10af6efc.2b8521f6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 9:37:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Or, we could bomb God. Yours, mine, or ours? Ralph --part1_1a4.10af6efc.2b8521f6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 9:37:24 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Or, we could bomb God. </BLOCKQUOTE= ><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Yours, mine, or ours?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1a4.10af6efc.2b8521f6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:13:02 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 91? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c3.543ae8a.2b85232e_boundary" --part1_1c3.543ae8a.2b85232e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:03:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Anyone have any idea what we were discussing in 1991? > Whatever it was, we weren't discussing it here. Ralph --part1_1c3.543ae8a.2b85232e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:03:25 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Anyone have any idea what we we= re discussing in 1991?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Whatever it was, we weren't discussing it here.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c3.543ae8a.2b85232e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:20:18 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15d.1c194a70.2b8524e2_boundary" --part1_15d.1c194a70.2b8524e2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:37:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > '71?! That's kinda cute, youngster. Didn't hey pull the plug on the > draft in '72? > John, Actually I wasn't quite sure about the year. I turned 18 in 1970, but graduated HS in 1971. Any of the rest of you geezers (or geezerettes) remember how they worked out one's year? I do remember that the day they announced the draft no's for my year, my father heard them on the radio early in the AM, and told me that mine was low, and I went around all day worrying about what the hell I was gonna do (join the Navy or get drafted into the Army). Then they published the numbers later in the day, and it turned out mine was high and my best friend's was low; he spent 20 years in the Navy and I went to Arch school. I think he won. Ralph --part1_15d.1c194a70.2b8524e2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:37:46 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">'71?! That's kinda cute,=20= youngster. Didn't hey pull the plug on the <BR> draft in '72?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> John,<BR> <BR> Actually I wasn't quite sure about the year. I turned 18 in 1970, but=20= graduated HS in 1971. Any of the rest of you geezers (or geezerettes)=20= remember how they worked out one's year? I do remember that the day th= ey announced the draft no's for my year, my father heard them on the radio e= arly in the AM, and told me that mine was low, and I went around all day wor= rying about what the hell I was gonna do (join the Navy or get drafted into=20= the Army). Then they published the numbers later in the day, and it tu= rned out mine was high and my best friend's was low; he spent 20 years in th= e Navy and I went to Arch school. <BR> <BR> I think he won.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_15d.1c194a70.2b8524e2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:21:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_102.2715b940.2b85250f_boundary" --part1_102.2715b940.2b85250f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:40:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > 327 here. Beat going to Canada rather than Viet Nam ey? Got to stay home! Rudy, You got dat right! Ralph --part1_102.2715b940.2b85250f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 12:40:10 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">327 here. Beat going to Canada rather than Viet Nam ey? Got= to stay home!</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROU= ND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><= BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Rudy,<BR> <BR> You got dat right!<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_102.2715b940.2b85250f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:28:34 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Score, Robert" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-7f4f1752-050c-44ed-a06b-4968de0a2513" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------=_NextPartTM-000-7f4f1752-050c-44ed-a06b-4968de0a2513 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D844.B6695F90" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D844.B6695F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Logan has tanks of jet fuel that W could grab, finally a reliable national energy policy! -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Walter [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:02 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:38:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: so we might as well bomb the hell out of canada, and while we are at it lets wipe logan airport off the map Wait a minute. Canada's got oil, and Logan Airport doesn't. We can't bomb them both for different reasons. Ralph ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D844.B6695F90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=536252818-19022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Logan has tanks of jet fuel that W could grab, finally a reliable national energy policy!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ralph Walter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response & Constitution<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:38:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">so we might as well bomb the hell out of canada, and while we are at it lets wipe logan airport off the map </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Wait a minute. Canada's got oil, and Logan Airport doesn't. We can't bomb them both for different reasons.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D844.B6695F90-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-7f4f1752-050c-44ed-a06b-4968de0a2513-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:36:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Antarctic Water MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f2.2976cd9d.2b8528c5_boundary" --part1_f2.2976cd9d.2b8528c5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought there's a lot of snow down there. Get your stories straight, will ya? Antarctica + global warming and/or ice melting plants fueled by Southeast Asian oil = water that can be used to quench the thirst of unruly and irritating desert dwellers as well as irrigate the lawns of golf courses. Water is more vital than oil. Without water the body dehydrates and ceases to function. Get your commodities in order, Ralph! ][<en --part1_f2.2976cd9d.2b8528c5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I thought there's a lot of snow down there. Get=20= your stories straight, will ya?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Antarctica + global warming and/or ice melting plants fueled by Southeast As= ian oil =3D water that can be used to quench the thirst of unruly and irrita= ting desert dwellers as well as irrigate the lawns of golf courses. Water is= more vital than oil. Without water the body dehydrates and ceases to functi= on. Get your commodities in order, Ralph!<BR> <BR> ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_f2.2976cd9d.2b8528c5_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:43:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_17a.16da17c8.2b852a6d_boundary" --part1_17a.16da17c8.2b852a6d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit". Made by Reagan & his buddies as I recall... just like they made the Taliban & Osama. ][<en --part1_17a.16da17c8.2b852a6d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit".<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Made by Reagan & his buddies as I recall... just like they made the Tali= ban & Osama. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_17a.16da17c8.2b852a6d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:53:30 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I*** r******* & C********* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d9.3295020.2b852caa_boundary" --part1_1d9.3295020.2b852caa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vulgarity is the last refuge of a scoundrel - especially misspelled. Jim Hicks is a scoundrel. He may even be a Wobbly. I doubt he would ever admit to being otherwise than a scoundrel. I think his problem is a lack of regular fiber therapy. If we are lucky Nick Micros will do an analysis and it will shut up the ranting loonie anarchist before the BIG ONE strikes! ][<en --part1_1d9.3295020.2b852caa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Vulgarity is the last refuge of a scoundrel - especial= ly misspelled. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Jim Hicks is a scoundrel. He may even be a Wobbly. I doubt he would ever adm= it to being otherwise than a scoundrel. I think his problem is a lack of reg= ular fiber therapy. If we are lucky Nick Micros will do an analysis and it w= ill shut up the ranting loonie anarchist before the BIG ONE strikes! ][<e= n</FONT></HTML> --part1_1d9.3295020.2b852caa_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:54:25 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I*** r******* & C********* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_144.b16a17b.2b852ce1_boundary" --part1_144.b16a17b.2b852ce1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yrs. Registered Republican Me too. --part1_144.b16a17b.2b852ce1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Yrs. Registered Republican</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Me too.</FONT></HTML> --part1_144.b16a17b.2b852ce1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:54:32 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------783482DBDF43748AA2FC60D9" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------783482DBDF43748AA2FC60D9 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------77D3A9ACAF7041678FE983E9" --------------77D3A9ACAF7041678FE983E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit & let's not forget that the US supplied Iraq, according to the CDC, with West Nile Virus during the Bush administration..... Ken Follett wrote: > SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit". Made by Reagan & his buddies as I recall... just like they made the Taliban & Osama. ][<en --------------77D3A9ACAF7041678FE983E9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> & let's not forget that the US supplied Iraq, according to the CDC, with West Nile Virus during the Bush administration..... <p>Ken Follett wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit".</font></font></blockquote> <p><br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Made by Reagan & his buddies as I recall... just like they made the Taliban & Osama. ][<en</font></font></html> --------------77D3A9ACAF7041678FE983E9-- --------------783482DBDF43748AA2FC60D9 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------783482DBDF43748AA2FC60D9-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:58:15 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Hammarberg, Eric" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The guns for hostages, Iran Contra, let's piss off the crazy guy SH. Yes, thanks Ron. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:44 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit". Made by Reagan & his buddies as I recall... just like they made the Taliban & Osama. ][<en <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The information in this email and any attachments may contain confidential information that is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this message. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:07:19 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_134.1b50eb03.2b852fe7_boundary" --part1_134.1b50eb03.2b852fe7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The guns for hostages, Iran Contra, let's piss off the crazy guy SH. Yes, thanks Ron. I suppose we don't get alzheimers for nothing. Far too many faux cowboys in the oily muck while Dr. Strangeglove rides in the wings. ][<en --part1_134.1b50eb03.2b852fe7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">The guns for hostages, Iran Contra, let's piss off the= crazy guy SH. Yes,<BR> thanks Ron.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I suppose we don't get alzheimers for nothing. Far too many faux cowboys in=20= the oily muck while Dr. Strangeglove rides in the wings. ][<en</FONT></HT= ML> --part1_134.1b50eb03.2b852fe7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:07:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Antarctic Water MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a0.111fb53a.2b85300d_boundary" --part1_1a0.111fb53a.2b85300d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:37:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Get your commodities in order, Ralph! > > Yeah Ralph oil and water don't mix. Steve --part1_1a0.111fb53a.2b85300d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:37:29 PM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Get your commodities in order, Ralph!<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Yeah Ralph oil and water don't mix.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_1a0.111fb53a.2b85300d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:13:58 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I*** r******* & C********* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cd.3283a3d.2b853176_boundary" --part1_1cd.3283a3d.2b853176_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:54:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I think his problem is a lack of regular fiber therapy. If my memory serves me Jim stated he might even go lay a log. So maybe he needs something besides fiber therapy. Steve --part1_1cd.3283a3d.2b853176_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:54:03 PM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">I think his problem is a lack of regular fiber therapy.</BL= OCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"= SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> If my memory serves me Jim stated he might even go lay a log. So maybe he ne= eds something besides fiber therapy.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_1cd.3283a3d.2b853176_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:14:29 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I*** r******* & C********* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_31.344cbf57.2b853195_boundary" --part1_31.344cbf57.2b853195_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:55:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Yrs. Registered Republican > > > Me too. Me three. --part1_31.344cbf57.2b853195_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:55:04 PM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Yrs. Registered Republican</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000= 000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-C= OLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> <BR> Me too.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" S= IZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Me three.</FONT></HTML> --part1_31.344cbf57.2b853195_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:16:20 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I*** r******* & C********* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cb.32888ab.2b853204_boundary" --part1_1cb.32888ab.2b853204_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit he might even go lay a log. Exactly. --part1_1cb.32888ab.2b853204_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">he might even go lay a log. </BLOCKQUOTE></FON= T><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMI= LY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Exactly.</FONT></HTML> --part1_1cb.32888ab.2b853204_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:18:29 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Y Not Draft X Chromosomes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_145.b197122.2b853285_boundary" --part1_145.b197122.2b853285_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/03 1:21:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Any of the rest of you geezers (or geezerettes) remember how they worked out > Year of birth. Be kind of interesting to figure out the draft numbers that would have applied to the females. Pam, Estelle, Ruth, Heidi anyone out there born 4-24-1950? Best, #2 --part1_145.b197122.2b853285_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/03 1:21:28 PM Eastern St= andard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Any of the rest of you geez= ers (or geezerettes) remember how they worked out one's year?</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Year of birth. Be kind of interesting to figure out the draft numb= ers that would have applied to the females. Pam, Estelle, Ruth, Heidi=20= anyone out there born 4-24-1950? Best, #2</FONT></HTML> --part1_145.b197122.2b853285_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:08:55 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1de.26d7a09.2b855a77_boundary" --part1_1de.26d7a09.2b855a77_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:44:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > SH is a bit of a shit but he's "our shit". > > Made by Reagan &his buddies as I recall... just like they made the Taliban & > Osama. ][<en Even I don't think we can blame Saddam on Reagan, although I think Reagan supported adopting Saddam as a way of sticking it to the Iranians. Somehow I think Ron & Co were more supportive of the Taliban as anti-Commie fighters against the Evil Russkies than they were of Saddam against the Ayatollah. Evil Empire, Axis of Evil, what other Evils lurk in the hearts of man? Ralph --part1_1de.26d7a09.2b855a77_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:44:37 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">SH is a bit of a shit but he's=20= "our shit".<BR> <BR> Made by Reagan &his buddies as I recall... just like they made the Talib= an &Osama. ][<en</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-C= OLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BL= OCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Even <I>I</I> don't think we= can blame Saddam on Reagan, although I think Reagan supported adopting Sadd= am as a way of sticking it to the Iranians. Somehow I think Ron & Co wer= e more supportive of the Taliban as anti-Commie fighters against the Evil Ru= sskies than they were of Saddam against the Ayatollah. <BR> <BR> Evil Empire, Axis of Evil, what other Evils lurk in the hearts of man?<BR> <BR> Ralph </FONT></HTML> --part1_1de.26d7a09.2b855a77_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:12:45 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_33.3452a0f2.2b855b5d_boundary" --part1_33.3452a0f2.2b855b5d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:59:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The guns for hostages, Iran Contra, let's piss off the crazy guy SH. Yes, > thanks Ron. > So are all of us lily-livered, weak-kneed, kneejerk, jerkoff, Comsymp registered Republican one world pantywaists all in agreement that we brought this shit on ourselves? Just wondering. Ralph --part1_33.3452a0f2.2b855b5d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:59:36 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The guns for hostages, Iran Con= tra, let's piss off the crazy guy SH. Yes,<BR> thanks Ron.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> So are all of us lily-livered, weak-kneed, kneejerk, jerkoff, Comsymp regist= ered Republican one world pantywaists all in agreement that we brought this=20= shit on ourselves?<BR> <BR> Just wondering.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_33.3452a0f2.2b855b5d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:15:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Antarctic Water MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c8.5546e0e.2b855c0c_boundary" --part1_1c8.5546e0e.2b855c0c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 2:09:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Yeah Ralph oil and water don't mix. > That would explain why they never found it under the Gulf of Tonkin. To tell you the truth, doesn't seem to me that oil mixes real well with sand, either. And water and sand make quicksand, which I understand can be a problem, too. We're screwed, no matter what. The Optimist --part1_1c8.5546e0e.2b855c0c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 2:09:23 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Yeah Ralph oil and water don't mix.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> That would explain why they never found it under the Gulf of Tonkin. To tell= you the truth, doesn't seem to me that oil mixes real well with sand, eithe= r. And water and sand make quicksand, which I understand can be a prob= lem, too. <BR> <BR> We're screwed, no matter what.<BR> <BR> The Optimist</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c8.5546e0e.2b855c0c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:16:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I*** r******* & C********* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d0.32d7493.2b855c3c_boundary" --part1_1d0.32d7493.2b855c3c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 2:15:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >> Yrs. Registered Republican >> >> >> Me too. > > Me three. I think Steve's the only one who believes in it, though. Ralph --part1_1d0.32d7493.2b855c3c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 2:15:41 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style= =3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PAD= DING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #= ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Yrs. R= egistered Republican</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLO= R: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </FONT>= <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> <BR> Me too.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" S= IZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Me three.</FONT><FONT =20= COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SAN= SSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I think Steve's the only one= who believes in it, though.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1d0.32d7493.2b855c3c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:20:06 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Y Not Draft X Chromosomes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_115.1f3bf9d1.2b855d16_boundary" --part1_115.1f3bf9d1.2b855d16_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 2:19:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Year of birth. Be kind of interesting to figure out the draft numbers that > would have applied to the females. Pam, Estelle, Ruth, Heidi anyone out > there born 4-24-1950? > Best, #2 Was it the year you turned 18 (as I suspect), or what? Estelle and Heidi might have been around in any decade which included 1950, but I doubt Heidi's grandparents were. Pam's age is anyone's guess. And as for "Best, #2", haven't we had enough bathroom conversation already? Ralph --part1_115.1f3bf9d1.2b855d16_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 2:19:24 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Year of birth. Be kind of interesting to figure= out the draft numbers that would have applied to the females. Pam, Es= telle, Ruth, Heidi anyone out there born 4-24-1950? <BR> Best, #2</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f= fffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE= ><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Was it the year you turned 18 (as I suspect), or what? <BR> Estelle and Heidi might have been around in any decade which included 1950,=20= but I doubt Heidi's grandparents were. Pam's age is anyone's guess.<BR= > <BR> And as for "Best, #2", haven't we had enough bathroom conversation already?<= BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_115.1f3bf9d1.2b855d16_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:40:24 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Score, Robert" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I*** r******* & C********* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-2cefaa89-eaf5-45f9-9cb6-5c8404b4f1b8" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------=_NextPartTM-000-2cefaa89-eaf5-45f9-9cb6-5c8404b4f1b8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D867.E43C3FA0" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D867.E43C3FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I believe... I believe that it is a baaad thing! -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Walter [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:16 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I*** r******* & C********* In a message dated 2/19/2003 2:15:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Yrs. Registered Republican Me too. Me three. I think Steve's the only one who believes in it, though. Ralph ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D867.E43C3FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=490344022-19022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I believe... I believe that it is a baaad thing!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ralph Walter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: I*** r******* & C*********<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/19/2003 2:15:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SERIF">Yrs. Registered Republican</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR><BR>Me too.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT">Me three.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I think Steve's the only one who believes in it, though.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D867.E43C3FA0-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-2cefaa89-eaf5-45f9-9cb6-5c8404b4f1b8-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:14:33 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2D842.C10B0040" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2D842.C10B0040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to my = shame. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution Jim, You mean you're not Dumdacrat? Steve ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2D842.C10B0040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Actually, I hate them all except maybe = Nader. I'm a=20 reg Dummy much to my shame.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, = 2003 11:44=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT">Jim,<BR><BR>You mean you're not=20 Dumdacrat?<BR><BR>Steve</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2D842.C10B0040-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:55:22 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12d.233cdd60.2b858f8a_boundary" --part1_12d.233cdd60.2b858f8a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to my > shame. > What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing Dubya. Ralph --part1_12d.233cdd60.2b858f8a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Actually, I hate them all excep= t maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to my shame.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000= 00" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing Dubya= .<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_12d.233cdd60.2b858f8a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:14:11 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: David Via <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My number was 4 in '72(I had the low number in my dorm and claimed the gallon of beer that we had chipped in for) and I remember that the draft ended in January of '73. It was announced by my hero, Secretary of Defense, Melvin Laird. The Navy recruiter was disappointed. DAVID -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:46:20 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also had a 1973 number, but I don't remember it...I didn't care, being = deaf and all, I was gonna be DQ'd anyway. sign me, eh? -----Original Message----- From: mitch wilds Sent: Wed 2/19/2003 12:40 PM but they kept the lottery around for a couple of more years. sign me, 278 in '73 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:51:02 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: So, what jerk wrote #167,778? X-cc: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cf.337afa9.2b85e2e6_boundary" --part1_1cf.337afa9.2b85e2e6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Department of Futures Trading: My book, "Streetscapes", will not be published until May, but it's already flying off the shelves: the Barnes & Noble website says it ranks #167,779. Best, Christopher --part1_1cf.337afa9.2b85e2e6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Department of Futures Trading: My book, "Streetscapes"= , will not be published until May, but it's already flying off the shelves:=20= the Barnes & Noble website says it ranks #167,779. &nbs= p; B= est, Christopher <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1cf.337afa9.2b85e2e6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:51:37 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From the looks of it on the telly I think we already attacked Antarctica and they dumped snow on NYC & Washington, DC. Ruth up north where a two-footer is a snow squall. At 12:48 PM -0500 2/19/03, Ralph Walter wrote: In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:09:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the oil. More likely it would be for the water I thought there's a lot of snow down there. Get your stories straight, will ya? Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:37:35 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 19 Feb 2003 to 20 Feb 2003 (#2003-49) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D8E5.3A5093BE" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D8E5.3A5093BE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Contents deleted again. It must be Ralph's fault, no offense intended. Oh, well, have a good day, mates... Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA > -----Original Message----- > From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Automatic digest processor > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 3:01 AM > To: Recipients of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS digests > Subject: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 19 Feb 2003 to 20 Feb 2003 > (#2003-49) >=20 > << File: Deleted Attachment.txt >>=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D8E5.3A5093BE Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 6.0.6249.1"> <TITLE>RE: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 19 Feb 2003 to 20 Feb 2003 = (#2003-49)</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Contents deleted = again. It must be Ralph's fault, no offense intended. Oh, = well, have a good day, mates...</FONT> </P> <P><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA</FONT></B> </P> <BR> <UL> <P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"></FONT> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">From: </FONT></B> <FONT = SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">"Let us not speak foul in folly!" - = ][<en Phollit [</FONT><A = HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"><U><FONT = COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">mailto:[log in to unmask]</FONT></= U></A><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">] </FONT><B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">On Behalf Of</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">Automatic digest processor</FONT></P> <P><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Sent: </FONT></B> <FONT = SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Thursday, February 20, 2003 3:01 AM</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">To: </FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">Recipients of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS digests</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">Subject: </FONT>= </B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - = 19 Feb 2003 to 20 Feb 2003 (#2003-49)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> << File: Deleted = Attachment.txt >> </FONT> </P> </UL> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D8E5.3A5093BE-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:56:59 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a4.34150661.2b8638ab_boundary" --part1_a4.34150661.2b8638ab_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...all in agreement that we brought this shit on ourselves? HC, Fer sure... but in no way do I feel responsible on a personal or local basis. I'd rather take a Taoist position and admit that dumb people rule. What else is new? I consulted my constitutional mentor last night and he informs me that Congress declares war, but that the president has the right to send the troops wherever for 90 days and that if someone shoots at them then they can shoot back to their heart's content and as much as the president tells them to and he does not have to ask Congress. The practice, as opposed to the principle, got us this far; of some 210 conflicts it seems the US has declared war only 5 times. As to the French and Germans (both of whom make up significant portions of my ancestry -- so I would appreciate dropping the Nationalist slurs, or at least inventing new and witty ones), my understanding is that they have been working on negotiating oil deals w/ Iraq for quite some time, in anticipation of resolution of the UN sanctions, and that if the US goes in and starts shooting that it throws the French deals out the window. Whose oil are we talking about? Arthur Koestler writing about his adventures in Europe during WW2, to say nothing of Celine's stories, gives a good perspective on the absurdist relevance of global conflict. I suspect the only thing that keeps humans from blowing everything to crap is that those with the means to persist got satiated & worn out in the last century. Obviously Ossama & Saddam & their folks did not get enough. I also understand that the US told Saddam that he could have a piece of Kuwait the last time around, some of their oil reserves, only he got greedy and took too much and we therefore had to go in to slap him around as a result. You got any info on the Jewish utopia that Stalin created in the Soviet Union? A precursor to Israel. I'd never heard of it until the other day. What gives? ][<en --part1_a4.34150661.2b8638ab_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">...all in agreement that we brought this shit on ourse= lves?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">HC,<BR> <BR> Fer sure... but in no way do I feel responsible on a personal or local basis= . I'd rather take a Taoist position and admit that dumb people rule. What el= se is new?<BR> <BR> I consulted my constitutional mentor last night and he informs me that Congr= ess declares war, but that the president has the right to send the troops wh= erever for 90 days and that if someone shoots at them then they can shoot ba= ck to their heart's content and as much as the president tells them to and h= e does not have to ask Congress. The practice, as opposed to the principle,=20= got us this far; of some 210 conflicts it seems the US has declared war only= 5 times.<BR> <BR> As to the French and Germans (both of whom make up significant portions of m= y ancestry -- so I would appreciate dropping the Nationalist slurs, or at le= ast inventing new and witty ones), my understanding is that they have been w= orking on negotiating oil deals w/ Iraq for quite some time, in anticipation= of resolution of the UN sanctions, and that if the US goes in and starts sh= ooting that it throws the French deals out the window. Whose oil are we talk= ing about? Arthur Koestler writing about his adventures in Europe during WW2= , to say nothing of Celine's stories, gives a good perspective on the absurd= ist relevance of global conflict. I suspect the only thing that keeps humans= from blowing everything to crap is that those with the means to persist got= satiated & worn out in the last century. Obviously Ossama & Saddam=20= & their folks did not get enough.<BR> <BR> I also understand that the US told Saddam that he could have a piece of Kuwa= it the last time around, some of their oil reserves, only he got greedy and=20= took too much and we therefore had to go in to slap him around as a result.<= BR> <BR> You got any info on the Jewish utopia that Stalin created in the Soviet Unio= n? A precursor to Israel. I'd never heard of it until the other day. What gi= ves?<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_a4.34150661.2b8638ab_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:05:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_192.15eb050b.2b863abc_boundary" --part1_192.15eb050b.2b863abc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From the looks of it on the telly I think we already attacked Antarctica and they dumped snow on NYC &Washington, DC. Ruth up north where a two-footer is a snow squall. Ruth: Double whammy attack, now it is warming up too fast and it will all melt real quick and flood us out. Leastways my impression of Vermont is you get a relatively slow melt. Here, and south of there, it snows 24" and a week later it is all gone and the crocuses are blooming just in time for another snow fall and freeze. ][<en --part1_192.15eb050b.2b863abc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">From the looks of it on the telly I think we already a= ttacked Antarctica<BR> and they dumped snow on NYC &Washington, DC. Ruth up north where a= <BR> two-footer is a snow squall.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ruth: Double whammy attack, now it is warming up too fast and it will all me= lt real quick and flood us out. Leastways my impression of Vermont is you ge= t a relatively slow melt. Here, and south of there, it snows 24" and a week=20= later it is all gone and the crocuses are blooming just in time for another=20= snow fall and freeze. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_192.15eb050b.2b863abc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:25:44 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e2.27da56b.2b863f68_boundary" --part1_1e2.27da56b.2b863f68_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a number up in the high 300's... but I don't remember what year it was or what the number was... in fact, I don't remember too much about it at all being a fog of jumbled experiences, you know. A few years like the day David Via became a stone mason. What I do remember was that my stepfather was going to make a significant and violent alteration to my life if I was drafted and did not go directly to Nam, as he had gone to Korea. It was the threat of significant alteration that mostly kept me in a mental condition that precluded my remembering. My hanging with the Quakers & non-violent workshops, counseling draft dodgers, odd friends in the SDS, long hair and curious run-ins with the law did not set well w/ my stepfather, nor with his born again parents, which did set well with me being a passive resistant sort of fellow that fit best in the woods when left alone. By the time I recovered my senses the draft was over and I was busting stone in farm country. The only thing my mother ever told me about political action, and quite seriously concerned that I would not pay attention, was not to get involved in the civil rights movement. She was honestly afraid I'd get lynched. Not all drafts have numbers. I'm very much in favor of the Marxist technique to infiltrate then eat out from the core of the beast and I have lived my life and political persuasions accordingly. As a registered Republican I support choice, I desire elimination of all drug laws, I despise welfare abuse, and I will be damned if they take away my guns. ][<en --part1_1e2.27da56b.2b863f68_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I had a number up in the high 300's... but I don't rem= ember what year it was or what the number was... in fact, I don't remember t= oo much about it at all being a fog of jumbled experiences, you know. A few=20= years like the day David Via became a stone mason. What I do remember was th= at my stepfather was going to make a significant and violent alteration to m= y life if I was drafted and did not go directly to Nam, as he had gone to Ko= rea. It was the threat of significant alteration that mostly kept me in a me= ntal condition that precluded my remembering. My hanging with the Quakers &a= mp; non-violent workshops, counseling draft dodgers, odd friends in the SDS,= long hair and curious run-ins with the law did not set well w/ my stepfathe= r, nor with his born again parents, which did set well with me being a passi= ve resistant sort of fellow that fit best in the woods when left alone. By t= he time I recovered my senses the draft was over and I was busting stone in=20= farm country. The only thing my mother ever told me about political action,=20= and quite seriously concerned that I would not pay attention, was not to get= involved in the civil rights movement. She was honestly afraid I'd get lync= hed. Not all drafts have numbers. I'm very much in favor of the Marxist tech= nique to infiltrate then eat out from the core of the beast and I have lived= my life and political persuasions accordingly. As a registered Republican I= support choice, I desire elimination of all drug laws, I despise welfare ab= use, and I will be damned if they take away my guns. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e2.27da56b.2b863f68_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:33:07 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9A45DE901CCEC327D950E4F6" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9A45DE901CCEC327D950E4F6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Last February had a fairly extensive operation on my knee- Md told me I really should have had it done years ago, my Dad slapped his forehead in one of those classic "oops I forgot something" pantomimes when he saw me on crutches and parroted the idea that I should have had it done years ago as well. He'd forbidden it in my teens as he always figured I'd get ti done the day before my physical if i were called up. --------------9A45DE901CCEC327D950E4F6 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------9A45DE901CCEC327D950E4F6-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:50:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_48.186b972e.2b86454c_boundary" --part1_48.186b972e.2b86454c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 8:58:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing > Dubya. > I was a real dummy also because I supported Ross Perot and Bill Clinton was elected. Shame on me. Steve --part1_48.186b972e.2b86454c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 8:58:09 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and there= by electing Dubya.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I was a real dummy also because I supported Ross Perot and Bill Clinton was=20= elected. Shame on me.<BR> <BR> Steve </FONT></HTML> --part1_48.186b972e.2b86454c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:56:25 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "M. P. Edison" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >From the looks of it on the telly I think we already attacked Antarctica > and they dumped snow on NYC & Washington, DC. Ruth up north where a > two-footer is a snow squall. > > > > At 12:48 PM -0500 2/19/03, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:09:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > I guess if we were to attack an enemy in Antarctica it would be for the oil. > > > More likely it would be for the water > > > > I thought there's a lot of snow down there. Get your stories straight, > will ya? > > Ralph > > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Westminster, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > I could be wrong, but it seems to me that I heard somewhere that Antarctica is actually a giant desert with very little precipitation on annual basis. If there's a lot of snow it's because it never melts? Edison Coatings, Inc. M. P. Edison President 3 Northwest Drive Plainville, CT 06062 USA Phone: (860)747-2220 Fax: (860)747-2280 email: [log in to unmask] Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:57:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_65.a8f6982.2b8646f5_boundary" --part1_65.a8f6982.2b8646f5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:44:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > and I will be damned if they take away my guns. I second that. Steve --part1_65.a8f6982.2b8646f5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:44:58 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">and I will be damned if they take away my guns. </BLOCKQUOT= E></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I second that.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_65.a8f6982.2b8646f5_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:02:48 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Y Not Draft X Chromosomes In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_77haRvZYFQoLyVpAsagrQQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_77haRvZYFQoLyVpAsagrQQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Not I. Sign me, Pam the 60's baby. -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met History Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:18 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Y Not Draft X Chromosomes In a message dated 2/19/03 1:21:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Any of the rest of you geezers (or geezerettes) remember how they worked out one's year? Year of birth. Be kind of interesting to figure out the draft numbers that would have applied to the females. Pam, Estelle, Ruth, Heidi anyone out there born 4-24-1950? Best, #2 --Boundary_(ID_77haRvZYFQoLyVpAsagrQQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=795250216-20022003>Not I.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=795250216-20022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=795250216-20022003>Sign me,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=795250216-20022003>Pam the 60's baby.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Met History<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Y Not Draft X Chromosomes<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face="Times New Roman" lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SERIF">In a message dated 2/19/03 1:21:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE">Any of the rest of you geezers (or geezerettes) remember how they worked out one's year?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face="Times New Roman" lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SERIF"><BR>Year of birth. Be kind of interesting to figure out the draft numbers that would have applied to the females. Pam, Estelle, Ruth, Heidi anyone out there born 4-24-1950? Best, #2</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_77haRvZYFQoLyVpAsagrQQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:29:05 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: So, what jerk wrote #167,778? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_109.2065d0f1.2b866a61_boundary" --part1_109.2065d0f1.2b866a61_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 8:57:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Department of Futures Trading: My book, "Streetscapes", will not be > published until May, but it's already flying off the shelves: the Barnes & > Noble website says it ranks #167,779. I'm sure that's the number of copies ordered prior to publication. Ralph --part1_109.2065d0f1.2b866a61_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 8:57:51 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Department of Futures Trading:=20= My book, "Streetscapes", will not be published until May, but it's already f= lying off the shelves: the Barnes &Noble website says it ranks #167,779.= </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I'm sure that's the number of copies ordered prior to publication.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_109.2065d0f1.2b866a61_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:38:30 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_197.15de3dbd.2b866c96_boundary" --part1_197.15de3dbd.2b866c96_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 8:59:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You got any info on the Jewish utopia that Stalin created in the Soviet > Union? A precursor to Israel. I'd never heard of it until the other day. > What gives? > Turned out to be more of a Socialist non-paradise than a Jewish utopia. I THINK it was a late Lenin program, or very early Stalin, and the Jews proved to be more interested in being Jewish and insufficiently socialist for the Soviets' taste. Others probably know more; I certainly hope so. Ralph Ralph --part1_197.15de3dbd.2b866c96_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 8:59:00 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You got any info on the Jewish=20= utopia that Stalin created in the Soviet Union? A precursor to Israel. I'd n= ever heard of it until the other day. What gives?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Turned out to be more of a Socialist non-paradise than a Jewish utopia. = ; I THINK it was a late Lenin program, or very early Stalin, and the Jews pr= oved to be more interested in being Jewish and insufficiently socialist for=20= the Soviets' taste. <BR> <BR> Others probably know more; I certainly hope so.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_197.15de3dbd.2b866c96_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:35:48 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Y Not Draft X Chromosomes In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was 8 yrs old in 1950. Ruth At 2:18 PM -0500 2/19/03, Met History wrote: In a message dated 2/19/03 1:21:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Any of the rest of you geezers (or geezerettes) remember how they worked out one's year? Year of birth. Be kind of interesting to figure out the draft numbers that would have applied to the females. Pam, Estelle, Ruth, Heidi anyone out there born 4-24-1950? Best, #2 -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:43:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9d.34d18c1c.2b866da8_boundary" --part1_9d.34d18c1c.2b866da8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:57:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I was a real dummy also because I supported Ross Perot and Bill Clinton was > elected. Shame on me. > Steve, Better that Perot lost than Clinton won. Ralph --part1_9d.34d18c1c.2b866da8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:57:06 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I was a real dummy also because I supported Ross Perot= and Bill Clinton was elected. Shame on me.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Steve,<BR> <BR> Better that Perot lost than Clinton won.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_9d.34d18c1c.2b866da8_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:05:26 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" At what point in the "last time around" was this agreement for a slice of Kuwait alleged to have been made? The only thing I can recollect of that nature was a weak response by our envoy a short time before he invaded Kuwait as to the US's position on his saber rattling (not that I was paying a whole lot of attention but that was one thing that hit the news back then as to how SH could've gotten the idea that we wouldn't come to the Kuwaiti's aid). My understanding of the situation was that SH was pissed because the Kuwaitis were supposedly taking advantage of the new "horizontal drilling technology" (which may be able to drill down and then turn horizontal though I have a real hard time imagining the hardware that can do that), using it to cross the Kuwait/Iraq border and take Iraqi oil. Mind you this is just my understanding/recollection of what took place. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:57 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > I also understand that the US told Saddam that he could have a piece of Kuwait the last time around, some of their oil reserves, only he got greedy and took too much and we therefore had to go in to slap him around as a result. > ][<en -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:13:55 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Sneaky Drilling In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe the drilling technique is diagonal, or slanted. I'm sure it did not originate with the Kewaiti's...they probably had some help from Texas. Consultants. Hmmmmm...seems the problem keeps returning to the same family don't it? -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 12:05 PM, Bruce Marcham wrote: > At what point in the "last time around" was this agreement for a slice > of > Kuwait alleged to have been made? The only thing I can recollect of > that > nature was a weak response by our envoy a short time before he invaded > Kuwait as to the US's position on his saber rattling (not that I was > paying > a whole lot of attention but that was one thing that hit the news back > then > as to how SH could've gotten the idea that we wouldn't come to the > Kuwaiti's > aid). > > My understanding of the situation was that SH was pissed because the > Kuwaitis were supposedly taking advantage of the new "horizontal > drilling > technology" (which may be able to drill down and then turn horizontal > though > I have a real hard time imagining the hardware that can do that), > using it > to cross the Kuwait/Iraq border and take Iraqi oil. > > Mind you this is just my understanding/recollection of what took place. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:57 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution >> > > I also understand that the US told Saddam that he could have a piece of > Kuwait the last time around, some of their oil reserves, only he got > greedy > and took too much and we therefore had to go in to slap him around as a > result. >> > > ][<en > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:28:55 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitutoil MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6b.a947294.2b867867_boundary" --part1_6b.a947294.2b867867_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 1:06:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > My understanding of the situation was that SH was pissed because the > Kuwaitis were supposedly taking advantage of the new "horizontal drilling > technology" (which may be able to drill down and then turn horizontal > though > I have a real hard time imagining the hardware that can do that), using it > to cross the Kuwait/Iraq border and take Iraqi oil. > Bruce, I know there was some sort of horizontal drilling technology as far back as the early 1960's, because my grandfather (and presumably all his neighbors) got some sort of minuscule payments from some oil company that was drilling under his house in LA from some distance (maybe miles) away. I didn't get the impression that they were all sitting on a miles-wide pool of oil that was being sucked up from one spot, but that in fact the oil co had to chase the oil around with their little bit brace. I also remember many more oil wells visible around LA in the 50's when I was a little kid than there were in the 60's and 70's, and have the impression that the wells (which I think dated from the'20's) had been pumped dry, and not that their removal was the result of environmental concerns. The first environmental stuff I remember was worry about spills resulting from drilling for oil in the ocean off LA; I don't remember any about land-based drilling, although They did make some oil company disguise a new oil well in the middle of LA to look like a tall, narrow building. Where are the petrochemical engineers, or curators of oil well museums, when you need them? Ralph --part1_6b.a947294.2b867867_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 1:06:20 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My understanding of the situati= on was that SH was pissed because the<BR> Kuwaitis were supposedly taking advantage of the new "horizontal drilling<BR= > technology" (which may be able to drill down and then turn horizontal though= <BR> I have a real hard time imagining the hardware that can do that), using it<B= R> to cross the Kuwait/Iraq border and take Iraqi oil.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Bruce,<BR> <BR> I know there was some sort of horizontal drilling technology as far back as=20= the early 1960's, because my grandfather (and presumably all his neighbors)=20= got some sort of minuscule payments from some oil company that was drilling=20= under his house in LA from some distance (maybe miles) away. <BR> <BR> I didn't get the impression that they were all sitting on a miles-wide pool=20= of oil that was being sucked up from one spot, but that in fact the oil co h= ad to chase the oil around with their little bit brace. I also remembe= r many more oil wells visible around LA in the 50's when I was a little kid=20= than there were in the 60's and 70's, and have the impression that the wells= (which I think dated from the'20's) had been pumped dry, and not that their= removal was the result of environmental concerns. <BR> <BR> The first environmental stuff I remember was worry about spills resulting fr= om drilling for oil in the ocean off LA; I don't remember any about land-bas= ed drilling, although They did make some oil company disguise a new oil well= in the middle of LA to look like a tall, narrow building.<BR> <BR> Where are the petrochemical engineers, or curators of oil well museums, when= you need them? <BR> <BR> Ralph </FONT></HTML> --part1_6b.a947294.2b867867_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:46:56 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitutoil In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-887623883 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2-887623883 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Drakes Well Museum http://www.drakewell.org/ The well on the site is a replica of Drake's first, but down the road a=20= piece is a well that had some sort of major significance. I remember=20 something about it being pumped a little each eary just to maintain its=20= status as the oldest operating well...or something like that. The=20 folks at Drake are real nice. Say hello to Barbara and Larry for me if=20= you contact them for info. One fun incident I remember is failing some sort of EPA test because=20 there was petrolium in our ground water. Surprise! -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 12:28 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/20/2003 1:06:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > My understanding of the situation was that SH was pissed because the > Kuwaitis were supposedly taking advantage of the new "horizontal=20 > drilling > technology" (which may be able to drill down and then turn horizontal=20= > though > I have a real hard time imagining the hardware that can do that),=20 > using it > to cross the Kuwait/Iraq border and take Iraqi oil. > > > Bruce, > > I know there was some sort of horizontal drilling technology as far=20 > back as the early 1960's, because my grandfather (and presumably all=20= > his neighbors) got some sort of minuscule payments from some oil=20 > company that was drilling under his house in LA from some distance=20 > (maybe miles) away. > > I didn't get the impression that they were all sitting on a miles-wide=20= > pool of oil that was being sucked up from one spot, but that in fact=20= > the oil co had to chase the oil around with their little bit brace.=A0 = I=20 > also remember many more oil wells visible around LA in the 50's when I=20= > was a little kid than there were in the 60's and 70's, and have the=20 > impression that the wells (which I think dated from the'20's) had been=20= > pumped dry, and not that their removal was the result of environmental=20= > concerns. > > The first environmental stuff I remember was worry about spills=20 > resulting from drilling for oil in the ocean off LA; I don't remember=20= > any about land-based drilling, although They did make some oil company=20= > disguise a new oil well in the middle of LA to look like a tall,=20 > narrow building. > > Where are the petrochemical engineers, or curators of oil well=20 > museums, when you need them? > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-2-887623883 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Drakes Well Museum http://www.drakewell.org/ The well on the site is a replica of Drake's first, but down the road a piece is a well that had some sort of major significance. I remember something about it being pumped a little each eary just to maintain its status as the oldest operating well...or something like that. The folks at Drake are real nice. Say hello to Barbara and Larry for me if you contact them for info. One fun incident I remember is failing some sort of EPA test because there was petrolium in our ground water. Surprise! -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 12:28 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/20/2003 1:06:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>My understanding of the situation was that SH was pissed because the Kuwaitis were supposedly taking advantage of the new "horizontal drilling technology" (which may be able to drill down and then turn horizontal though I have a real hard time imagining the hardware that can do that), using it to cross the Kuwait/Iraq border and take Iraqi oil. Bruce, I know there was some sort of horizontal drilling technology as far back as the early 1960's, because my grandfather (and presumably all his neighbors) got some sort of minuscule payments from some oil company that was drilling under his house in LA from some distance (maybe miles) away. I didn't get the impression that they were all sitting on a miles-wide pool of oil that was being sucked up from one spot, but that in fact the oil co had to chase the oil around with their little bit brace.=A0 I also remember many more oil wells visible around LA in the 50's when I was a little kid than there were in the 60's and 70's, and have the impression that the wells (which I think dated from the'20's) had been pumped dry, and not that their removal was the result of environmental concerns. The first environmental stuff I remember was worry about spills resulting from drilling for oil in the ocean off LA; I don't remember any about land-based drilling, although They did make some oil company disguise a new oil well in the middle of LA to look like a tall, narrow building. Where are the petrochemical engineers, or curators of oil well museums, when you need them? Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2-887623883-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:09:31 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Sneaky Drilling MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" A Google search on "horizontal oil drilling" gets one a lot of information, one item stating that horizontal drilling technology (may also be called "directional drilling") was 'perfected in Alberta in the 1980's and 90's' (from Nickle's Daily Oil Bulletin, a publication of the Nickle Energy group, a Canadian company located in Alberta...). Another item dated 12/8/97 about the technology coming to Kansas (evidently not as technologically advanced as those in Alberta) says: > For more than a hundred years, traditional oil wells have been drilled vertically, straight down into the ground. When these wells reach an oil-bearing rock formation, oil drains into the well from the surrounding rock. A horizontal well begins like a traditional vertical well, at least until it nears the oil-bearing rock bed. At that point, sophisticated technology is used to turn the drill bit and drive the well horizontally. The drill then chews its way laterally along the targeted rock layer. Traditional vertical wells drain oil from a single hole poked through a rock layer. But horizontal wells encounter several hundred, maybe several thousand, feet of a rock bed, allowing them to drain substantially more oil from the rock. > One item made mention of using an existing vertical well casing, going down to some depth, cutting hole in the side of the casing, and heading out through that hole at some angle. Apparently they use gyros to guide the drill bit but don't ask me how it works. Not my forte'. BSME P.S. One of the items found makes reference to investment opportunities in the technology. It reminds me of a auto body shop manager friend of mine who hit some hard times down in Houston and got into making sales calls on Bubbas, trying to get them to invest in the directional drilling technology. I think that was about 5 years ago. He didn't get rich. -----Original Message----- From: John Callan [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:14 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Sneaky Drilling I believe the drilling technique is diagonal, or slanted. I'm sure it did not originate with the Kewaiti's...they probably had some help from Texas. Consultants. Hmmmmm...seems the problem keeps returning to the same family don't it? -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 12:05 PM, Bruce Marcham wrote: > At what point in the "last time around" was this agreement for a slice > of > Kuwait alleged to have been made? The only thing I can recollect of > that > nature was a weak response by our envoy a short time before he invaded > Kuwait as to the US's position on his saber rattling (not that I was > paying > a whole lot of attention but that was one thing that hit the news back > then > as to how SH could've gotten the idea that we wouldn't come to the > Kuwaiti's > aid). > > My understanding of the situation was that SH was pissed because the > Kuwaitis were supposedly taking advantage of the new "horizontal > drilling > technology" (which may be able to drill down and then turn horizontal > though > I have a real hard time imagining the hardware that can do that), > using it > to cross the Kuwait/Iraq border and take Iraqi oil. > > Mind you this is just my understanding/recollection of what took place. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:57 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution >> > > I also understand that the US told Saddam that he could have a piece of > Kuwait the last time around, some of their oil reserves, only he got > greedy > and took too much and we therefore had to go in to slap him around as a > result. >> > > ][<en > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:14:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Sneaky Drilling MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_104.281beae2.2b869f48_boundary" --part1_104.281beae2.2b869f48_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 1:13:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Hmmmmm...seems the problem keeps returning to the same family don't it? > Must be a coincidence. Ralph --part1_104.281beae2.2b869f48_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 1:13:34 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hmmmmm...seems the problem keep= s returning to the same family don't it?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Must be a coincidence.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_104.281beae2.2b869f48_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:52:11 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Sneaky Drilling MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f7.28e4988c.2b86d23b_boundary" --part1_f7.28e4988c.2b86d23b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 2:10:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > P.S. One of the items found makes reference to investment opportunities in > the technology. It reminds me of a auto body shop manager friend of mine > who hit some hard times down in Houston and got into making sales calls on > Bubbas, trying to get them to invest in the directional drilling > technology. > I think that was about 5 years ago. He didn't get rich. > Bruce, Guess his name was neither Cheney nor Bush. Or Ewing, for that matter. Maybe he was even a Democrat. Ralph --part1_f7.28e4988c.2b86d23b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 2:10:54 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">P.S. One of the items fou= nd makes reference to investment opportunities in<BR> the technology. It reminds me of a auto body shop manager friend of mi= ne<BR> who hit some hard times down in Houston and got into making sales calls on<B= R> Bubbas, trying to get them to invest in the directional drilling technology.= <BR> I think that was about 5 years ago. He didn't get rich.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Bruce,<BR> <BR> Guess his name was neither Cheney nor Bush. Or Ewing, for that matter.= Maybe he was even a Democrat.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_f7.28e4988c.2b86d23b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:53:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1df.28d9c8a.2b86d273_boundary" --part1_1df.28d9c8a.2b86d273_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:03:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Yes, there is and she is a wood leg, glass eyed smart ass. Eeeewwwww is > right. > You must be some prize yourself. Ralph --part1_1df.28d9c8a.2b86d273_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:03:03 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Yes, there is and she is a wood leg, glass eyed smart=20= ass. Eeeewwwww is right.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> You must be some prize yourself.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1df.28d9c8a.2b86d273_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:56:10 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a5.10706716.2b86d32a_boundary" --part1_1a5.10706716.2b86d32a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:08:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Define "easier". It certainly was and is less tedious. John, Are you saying it's easier and less tedious to find a soulmate than a sockmate, or vice versa? Just trying to get this clarified. I wonder if that's why girls wear pantyhose. Ralph > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 08:44 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > > >In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:12:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >[log in to unmask] writes: > > > >>Isn't amazing how many people manage to find someone to > >>pair up with! -jc > > > >John, > > > >You'd think it would be easier to find matching socks in your own > >dryer. But nooooooooo.......... > > > >Or are our sock standards higher than our marital standards? > > > >Ralph > --part1_1a5.10706716.2b86d32a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:08:02 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Define "easier". It certa= inly was and is less tedious.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" st= yle=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Aria= l" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>John,<BR> Are you saying it's easier and less tedious to find a soulmate than a sockma= te, or vice versa? Just trying to get this clarified.<BR> <BR> I wonder if that's why girls wear pantyhose.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZ= E=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 08:44 PM, Ralph Walter wrote:<BR> <BR> >In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:12:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,<BR> >[log in to unmask] writes:<BR> ><BR> >>Isn't amazing how many people manage to find someone to<BR> >>pair up with! -jc<BR> ><BR> >John,<BR> ><BR> >You'd think it would be easier to find matching socks in your own<BR> >dryer. But nooooooooo..........<BR> ><BR> >Or are our sock standards higher than our marital standards?<BR> ><BR> >Ralph<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1a5.10706716.2b86d32a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:05:23 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Permitting Saddam MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6pBo7rimdCThGrceq9gMbg)" --Boundary_(ID_6pBo7rimdCThGrceq9gMbg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT "But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait." US Ambassador April Glaspie to Saddam Hussein prior to the aggression of Iraq against Kuwait, as quoted from a transcript supplied by Iraq to the New York Times. It is reported that later Glaspie told a reporter to the effect that it had never been considered that Saddam would take all of Kuwait. A journalist questioned then as to what amount of Kuwait the Bush administration did expect Saddam to take as a result of the implication that America took no interest in the Iraq-Kuwait border conflict. No answer. If any of this is true I have no idea. It may have been more a case of Glaspie not being quite up to the task and her misunderstanding the depth of the intentions behind Saddam's words. Regardless, the incident is often cited as the US having given Saddam permission to invade and annex Kuwait. XXX ][<en --Boundary_(ID_6pBo7rimdCThGrceq9gMbg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title></title> </head> <body> <font color="#330033" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">"But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait." </font><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">US Ambassador April Glaspie to Saddam Hussein</font> prior to the aggression of Iraq against Kuwait, as quoted from a transcript supplied by Iraq to the New York Times. It is reported that later Glaspie told a reporter to the effect that it had never been considered that Saddam would take <u>all </u>of Kuwait. A journalist questioned then as to what amount of Kuwait the Bush administration did expect Saddam to take as a result of the implication that America took no interest in the Iraq-Kuwait border conflict. No answer. If any of this is true I have no idea. It may have been more a case of Glaspie not being quite up to the task and her misunderstanding the depth of the intentions behind Saddam's words. Regardless, the incident is often cited as the US having given Saddam permission to invade and annex Kuwait.<br> <br> XXX<br> ][<en<br> </body> </html> --Boundary_(ID_6pBo7rimdCThGrceq9gMbg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:17:02 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-914629322 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2-914629322 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Not exactly easier Ralph...just more interesting...perhaps stimulating.=20= Finding one's mate. I really can't stay interested in matching socks=20= for any length of time. -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 06:56 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:08:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Define "easier".=A0 It certainly was and is less tedious. > > > > John, > Are you saying it's easier and less tedious to find a soulmate than a=20= > sockmate, or vice versa? Just trying to get this clarified. > > I wonder if that's why girls wear pantyhose. > > Ralph > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 08:44=A0 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > > >In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:12:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >[log in to unmask] writes: > > > >>Isn't amazing how many people manage to find someone to > >>pair up with! -jc > > > >John, > > > >You'd think it would be easier to find matching socks in your own > >dryer.=A0 But nooooooooo.......... > > > >Or are our sock standards higher than our marital standards? > > > >Ralph > > > --Apple-Mail-2-914629322 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not exactly easier Ralph...just more interesting...perhaps stimulating. Finding one's mate. I really can't stay interested in matching socks for any length of time. -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 06:56 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:08:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>Define "easier".=A0 It certainly was and is less tedious. = <bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>= <smaller>John, Are you saying it's easier and less tedious to find a soulmate than a sockmate, or vice versa? Just trying to get this clarified. I wonder if that's why girls wear pantyhose. Ralph = </smaller></color></fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><col= or><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 08:44=A0 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: >In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:12:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[log in to unmask] writes: > >>Isn't amazing how many people manage to find someone to >>pair up with! -jc > >John, > >You'd think it would be easier to find matching socks in your own >dryer.=A0 But nooooooooo.......... > >Or are our sock standards higher than our marital standards? > >Ralph </smaller></color></fontfamily></excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2-914629322-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:19:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e.2d1db800.2b86e6bc_boundary" --part1_e.2d1db800.2b86e6bc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:09:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > "But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border > disagreement with Kuwait." US Ambassador April Glaspie to Saddam Hussein > prior to the aggression of Iraq against Kuwait, as quoted from a transcript > supplied by Iraq to the New York Times. It is reported that later Glaspie > told a reporter to the effect that it had never been considered that Saddam > would take all of Kuwait. I don't see where this gave the nice Mr. Hussein a green light to take anything. On the other hand, I can see where in retrospect it might have been wiser to tell him to keep his grubby mitts the hell off and his pecker in his pocket. Ambassador Ralph (whose offer to purchase, along with the rest of Mr. Grove's 7th grade social studies class, a diamond-shaped disputed area at the south of Libya, was intended to form the Republic of Groveland, was somehow overlooked by the then-recently-installed gov't of Libya under a gentleman named Qaddafi) --part1_e.2d1db800.2b86e6bc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:09:47 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#330033"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">"But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, l= ike your border disagreement with Kuwait." </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" s= tyle=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times N= ew Roman" LANG=3D"0">US Ambassador April Glaspie to Saddam Hussein</FONT><FO= NT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> prior to the aggression of Iraq ag= ainst Kuwait, as quoted from a transcript supplied by Iraq to the New York T= imes. It is reported that later Glaspie told a reporter to the effect that i= t had never been considered that Saddam would take <U>all </U>of Kuwait.</BL= OCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I don't see where this gave the nice Mr. Hussein a green light to take anyth= ing. On the other hand, I can see where in retrospect it might have be= en wiser to tell him to keep his grubby mitts the hell off and his pecker in= his pocket.<BR> <BR> Ambassador Ralph<BR> (whose offer to purchase, along with the rest of Mr. Grove's 7th grade socia= l studies class, a diamond-shaped disputed area at the south of Libya,= was intended to form the Republic of Groveland, was somehow overlooke= d by the then-recently-installed gov't of Libya under a gentleman named Qadd= afi)</FONT></HTML> --part1_e.2d1db800.2b86e6bc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:28:26 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_75.ab80a6a.2b86e8ca_boundary" --part1_75.ab80a6a.2b86e8ca_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Not exactly easier Ralph...just more interesting...perhaps stimulating. > Finding one's mate. I really can't stay interested in matching socks > for any length of time. > John, It is my experience as well that spouse- (or squeeze-) finding is indeed more interesting and more stimulating than trying to match socks. However, both can be exasperating processes, and deeply satisfying when all works out well. Given that I have a drawer full of black socks that SHOULD match, it remains a mystery to me that there are always widows and orphans. Ralph --part1_75.ab80a6a.2b86e8ca_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:17:01 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Not exactly easier Ralph...just= more interesting...perhaps stimulating. <BR> Finding one's mate. I really can't stay interested in matching socks=20= <BR> for any length of time.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> John,<BR> <BR> It is my experience as well that spouse- (or squeeze-) finding is indeed mor= e interesting and more stimulating than trying to match socks. However= , both can be exasperating processes, and deeply satisfying when all works o= ut well.<BR> <BR> Given that I have a drawer full of black socks that SHOULD match, it remains= a mystery to me that there are always widows and orphans. <BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_75.ab80a6a.2b86e8ca_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:40:19 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-916026912 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-7-916026912 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sometimes I wonder if diplomats would benefit substantially by having=20 some plain and direct spoken fellow...or lady, at his/her side...to=20 make sure that content is not mistaken. No authority to speak for the=20= nation of course, that could be embarrassing. But maybe if Ralph had=20 been at the table and had gone eyeball to eyeball with Sadam along with=20= Ms. April and made his statement, there would have been no=20 misunderstanding. Sometimes the problem with being professionally represented is that one=20= is not appropriately represented. We can be a rude speaking people,=20 (judging by this group). Our representatives should remember that on=20 occassion and demonstrate an understanding our our language and values.=20= Maybe that's why Powell makes sense to me. Of course that would kinda=20= explain dbya also...at least to anyone who thinks there is an=20 explaintionerary. -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 08:19 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:09:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > "But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border=20= > disagreement with Kuwait." US Ambassador April Glaspie to Saddam=20 > Hussein prior to the aggression of Iraq against Kuwait, as quoted from=20= > a transcript supplied by Iraq to the New York Times. It is reported=20 > that later Glaspie told a reporter to the effect that it had never=20 > been considered that Saddam would take all of Kuwait. > > > > I don't see where this gave the nice Mr. Hussein a green light to take=20= > anything.=A0 On the other hand, I can see where in retrospect it might=20= > have been wiser to tell him to keep his grubby mitts the hell off and=20= > his pecker in his pocket. > > Ambassador Ralph > (whose offer to purchase, along with the rest of Mr. Grove's 7th grade=20= > social studies class,=A0 a diamond-shaped disputed area at the south = of=20 > Libya, was intended to form the Republic of Groveland,=A0 was somehow=20= > overlooked by the then-recently-installed gov't of Libya under a=20 > gentleman named Qaddafi)= --Apple-Mail-7-916026912 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sometimes I wonder if diplomats would benefit substantially by having some plain and direct spoken fellow...or lady, at his/her side...to make sure that content is not mistaken. No authority to speak for the nation of course, that could be embarrassing. But maybe if Ralph had been at the table and had gone eyeball to eyeball with Sadam along with Ms. April and made his statement, there would have been no misunderstanding. =20 Sometimes the problem with being professionally represented is that one is not appropriately represented. We can be a rude speaking people, (judging by this group). Our representatives should remember that on occassion and demonstrate an understanding our our language and values. Maybe that's why Powell makes sense to me. Of course that would kinda explain dbya also...at least to anyone who thinks there is an explaintionerary. -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 08:19 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:09:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Times New = Roman</param><color><param>3333,0000,3333</param><smaller>"But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait." </smaller></color><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>US Ambassador April Glaspie to Saddam = Hussein</smaller></color></fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><col= or><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller> prior to the aggression of Iraq against Kuwait, as quoted from a transcript supplied by Iraq to the New York Times. It is reported that later Glaspie told a reporter to the effect that it had never been considered that Saddam would take <underline>all </underline>of = Kuwait.</smaller></color></fontfamily> I don't see where this gave the nice Mr. Hussein a green light to take anything.=A0 On the other hand, I can see where in retrospect it might have been wiser to tell him to keep his grubby mitts the hell off and his pecker in his pocket. Ambassador Ralph (whose offer to purchase, along with the rest of Mr. Grove's 7th grade social studies class,=A0 a diamond-shaped disputed area at the south of Libya, was intended to form the Republic of Groveland,=A0 was somehow overlooked by the then-recently-installed gov't of Libya under a gentleman named Qaddafi)</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-7-916026912-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:53:16 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-916803296 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-9-916803296 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about stuff...but socks=20 ain't one of those things. I used to have a mild concern about the=20 black socks matching, but that problem was simplified when I started=20 working from home. Most days I just grab a clean pair of from the top.=20= I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find=20 matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into the=20= cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. But finding my spouse is much more interesting. Hell, I still shave=20 dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and catz! On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 08:28 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Not exactly easier Ralph...just more interesting...perhaps = stimulating. > Finding one's mate.=A0 I really can't stay interested in matching = socks > for any length of time. > > > > John, > > It is my experience as well that spouse- (or squeeze-) finding is=20 > indeed more interesting and more stimulating than trying to match=20 > socks.=A0 However, both can be exasperating processes, and deeply=20 > satisfying when all works out well. > > Given that I have a drawer full of black socks that SHOULD match, it=20= > remains a mystery to me that there are always widows and orphans.=A0 > > Ralph --Apple-Mail-9-916803296 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about stuff...but socks ain't one of those things. I used to have a mild concern about the black socks matching, but that problem was simplified when I started working from home. Most days I just grab a clean pair of from the top. I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into the cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. But finding my spouse is much more interesting. Hell, I still shave dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and catz! =20 On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 08:28 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>Not exactly easier Ralph...just more interesting...perhaps stimulating. Finding one's mate.=A0 I really can't stay interested in matching socks for any length of time. John, It is my experience as well that spouse- (or squeeze-) finding is indeed more interesting and more stimulating than trying to match socks.=A0 However, both can be exasperating processes, and deeply satisfying when all works out well. Given that I have a drawer full of black socks that SHOULD match, it remains a mystery to me that there are always widows and orphans.=A0 Ralph </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-9-916803296-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:05:10 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f4.296e47e4.2b86f166_boundary" --part1_f4.296e47e4.2b86f166_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:39:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > But maybe if Ralph had been at the table and had gone eyeball to eyeball > with Sadam along with Ms. April and made his statement, there would have > been no > misunderstanding. > Nah. My problem has always been that despite my highly-developed 20-20 hindsight blustering, I'm a realtime wuss. Ken will confirm this. Then again, I recently had a very loud speakerphone argument in the office with the Client from Hell and with my boss in the room. Seemed to buy me a few minutes respect from my coworkers, so maybe it wasn't totally wasted. It was fun, too. Ralph --part1_f4.296e47e4.2b86f166_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:39:51 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">But maybe if Ralph had been at=20= the table and had gone eyeball to eyeball with Sadam along with Ms. April an= d made his statement, there would have been no <BR> misunderstanding.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Nah. My problem has always been that despite my highly-developed 20-20= hindsight blustering, I'm a realtime wuss. Ken will confirm this.<BR> <BR> Then again, I recently had a very loud speakerphone argument in the office w= ith the Client from Hell and with my boss in the room. Seemed to buy m= e a few minutes respect from my coworkers, so maybe it wasn't totally wasted= . It was fun, too.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_f4.296e47e4.2b86f166_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:11:25 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d3.18b3eb50.2b86f2dd_boundary" --part1_d3.18b3eb50.2b86f2dd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about stuff...but socks > ain't one of those things. I used to have a mild concern about the > black socks matching, but that problem was simplified when I started > working from home. Most days I just grab a clean pair of from the top. > I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find > matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into the > cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. > > But finding my spouse is much more interesting. Hell, I still shave > dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and catz! > John, I guess we just have different priorities. I haven't shaved in 30 years, but hate the notion of mismatched socks. Then again, it appears that we are in complete agreement on the importance of clean socks on a daily basis. Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks? Ralph --part1_d3.18b3eb50.2b86f2dd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:53:57 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm frequently accused of being= obssessive about stuff...but socks <BR> ain't one of those things. I used to have a mild concern about the <BR= > black socks matching, but that problem was simplified when I started <BR> working from home. Most days I just grab a clean pair of from the top.= <BR> I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find <BR> matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into the <BR> cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress.<BR> <BR> But finding my spouse is much more interesting. Hell, I still shave <B= R> dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and catz!<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> John, <BR> <BR> I guess we just have different priorities. I haven't shaved in 30 year= s, but hate the notion of mismatched socks. Then again, it appears tha= t we are in complete agreement on the importance of clean socks on a daily b= asis.<BR> <BR> Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_d3.18b3eb50.2b86f2dd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:22:36 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-918563543 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-11-918563543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I think the clean socks is a camping thing. Dry feet are necessary for=20= survival. Clean socks are a joy. -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 09:11 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about stuff...but socks > ain't one of those things.=A0 I used to have a mild concern about the > black socks matching, but that problem was simplified when I started > working from home.=A0 Most days I just grab a clean pair of from the = top. > I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find > matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into = the > cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. > > But finding my spouse is much more interesting.=A0 Hell, I still shave > dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and catz! > > > > John, > > I guess we just have different priorities.=A0 I haven't shaved in 30=20= > years, but hate the notion of mismatched socks.=A0 Then again, it=20 > appears that we are in complete agreement on the importance of clean=20= > socks on a daily basis. > > Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks? > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-11-918563543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think the clean socks is a camping thing. Dry feet are necessary for survival. Clean socks are a joy. -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 09:11 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about stuff...but socks ain't one of those things.=A0 I used to have a mild concern about the black socks matching, but that problem was simplified when I started working from home.=A0 Most days I just grab a clean pair of from the = top. I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into the cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. But finding my spouse is much more interesting.=A0 Hell, I still shave dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and catz! John, I guess we just have different priorities.=A0 I haven't shaved in 30 years, but hate the notion of mismatched socks.=A0 Then again, it appears that we are in complete agreement on the importance of clean socks on a daily basis. Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks? Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-11-918563543-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:51:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_193.15f5bc22.2b86fc24_boundary" --part1_193.15f5bc22.2b86fc24_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 10:22:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I think the clean socks is a camping thing. Dry feet are necessary for > survival. Clean socks are a joy. > John, You're right. In my yout' as a Boy Scout, I got to the point where I couldn;t stand being dirty anymore, but absolutely the worst was to have to wear already-worn socks. Gives me the shivers just thinking about it. Having seen all manner of muck floating around in a pan of supposedly clean Boy Scout dishwater on a campout early on, I also learned a valuable and vivid lesson about the importance of getting the crud off before you even think about putting the dish in the dishwater. I have been a stickler for clean dishes, and proper methods of obtaining same, ever since. The Little Ralphs, and even Mrs. Ralph, do not seem to "get" this, no matter how much I yell about it. Their failure in this regard is MOST distressing. Ralph --part1_193.15f5bc22.2b86fc24_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 10:22:22 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I think the clean socks is a ca= mping thing. Dry feet are necessary for <BR> survival. Clean socks are a joy.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> John,<BR> <BR> You're right. In my yout' as a Boy Scout, I got to the point where I c= ouldn;t stand being dirty anymore, but absolutely the worst was to have to w= ear already-worn socks. Gives me the shivers just thinking about it.<B= R> <BR> Having seen all manner of muck floating around in a pan of supposedly clean=20= Boy Scout dishwater on a campout early on, I also learned a valuable and viv= id lesson about the importance of getting the crud off before you even think= about putting the dish in the dishwater. I have been a stickler for c= lean dishes, and proper methods of obtaining same, ever since. The Lit= tle Ralphs, and even Mrs. Ralph, do not seem to "get" this, no matter how mu= ch I yell about it. Their failure in this regard is MOST distressing.<= BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_193.15f5bc22.2b86fc24_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:06:18 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP Ommm? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_105.2848f6a9.2b86ffba_boundary" --part1_105.2848f6a9.2b86ffba_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/03 10:54:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > the importance of getting the crud off before you even think about putting > the dish in the dishwater. Dishwasher mfrs say rinsing is irrelevant. Saw it in the Wall Street Journal last fall. You're wasting your time - go shave your armpits. Yrs, Conelrad --part1_105.2848f6a9.2b86ffba_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/03 10:54:11 PM Eastern S= tandard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">the importance of getting the c= rud off before you even think about putting the dish in the dishwater. = </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Dishwasher mfrs say rinsing is irrelevant. Saw it in the Wall Street Journal= last fall. You're wasting your time - go shave your armpits. &nb= sp; Yrs, Conelrad</FONT></HTML> --part1_105.2848f6a9.2b86ffba_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:04:47 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP Ommm? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d3.350dd4d.2b870d6f_boundary" --part1_1d3.350dd4d.2b870d6f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 11:47:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Dishwasher mfrs say rinsing is irrelevant. Yeah, well, I was talking about > old-fashioned hand-washing of dishes when away from comforts of Mommy's > kitchen. It was a sight to put you off sloppy seconds forever. Or perhaps > KC/Minhattin Boy Scouts had a cushier time of it than we manly > Californians. Saw it in the Wall Street Journal last fall. You believe > that rag? Next you'll be quoting from the Times Real Estate Section You're > wasting your time - go shave your armpits. Whassammatta, you don't go for > the Continental look? I'd as soon wear dirty socks. Yrs, Conelrad > Rockely and Bullelwinkle say hello, William. --part1_1d3.350dd4d.2b870d6f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 11:47:03 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Dishwasher mfrs say rinsing is irrelevant. <B>Yeah, w= ell, I was talking about old-fashioned hand-washing of dishes when away from= comforts of Mommy's kitchen. It was a sight to put you off sloppy sec= onds forever. Or perhaps KC/Minhattin Boy Scouts had a cushier time of it th= an we manly Californians. </B>Saw it in the Wall Street Journal=20= last fall. <B>You believe that rag? Next you'll be quoting from the Ti= mes Real Estate Section</B> You're wasting your time - go shave your armpits= . <B>Whassammatta, you don't go for the Continental look? I'd as soon wear d= irty socks.</B> Yrs, Conelrad <B>Rockely and Bullelwinkle=20= say hello, William.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR= : #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQ= UOTE></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1d3.350dd4d.2b870d6f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 06:02:17 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2D96E.CA0E7410" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2D96E.CA0E7410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote in = NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb won = the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from the = voting reg six months before the election and on election day in many = black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus all of = the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that just this = one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern Stradegy" = has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole sout.=20 jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ralph Walter=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much = to my shame. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing = Dubya. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2D96E.CA0E7410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would help if you were able to add = better than I=20 can spell. I vote in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In = any case=20 Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged = from the=20 voting reg six months before the election and on election day in many = black=20 counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus all of the = other=20 voting eregularities which the supreams said that just this one time = we're going=20 to chose)and in any case the "Southern Stradegy" has worked very well = and is=20 very alive in the grand ole sout. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph = Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 19, = 2003 8:55=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern = Standard=20 Time, <A = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>=20 writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg = Dummy=20 much to my shame.</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff"=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting = Nader and=20 thereby electing Dubya.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> = </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2D96E.CA0E7410-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:22:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_127.22e88d14.2b87822a_boundary" --part1_127.22e88d14.2b87822a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 12:43:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Better that Perot lost than Clinton won. > Ralph, I think you are correct. Can you imagine Perot with Lewinsky? Steve --part1_127.22e88d14.2b87822a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 12:43:51 PM Easte= rn Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Better that Perot lost than Clinton won.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ralph,<BR> <BR> I think you are correct. Can you imagine Perot with Lewinsky?<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_127.22e88d14.2b87822a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:24:18 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_W53JQ/RP3wCjscHiKi//UQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_W53JQ/RP3wCjscHiKi//UQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Or a cigar, for that matter. -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:23 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/20/2003 12:43:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Better that Perot lost than Clinton won. Ralph, I think you are correct. Can you imagine Perot with Lewinsky? Steve --Boundary_(ID_W53JQ/RP3wCjscHiKi//UQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=538122413-21022003>Or a cigar, for that matter.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 8:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response & Constitution<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" lang=0 size=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT">In a message dated 2/20/2003 12:43:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Better that Perot lost than Clinton won.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=3 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" lang=0 size=3 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SCRIPT"><BR>Ralph,<BR><BR>I think you are correct. Can you imagine Perot with Lewinsky?<BR><BR>Steve</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_W53JQ/RP3wCjscHiKi//UQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:25:05 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-954712249 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2-954712249 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I suppose I don't think much about the crud in the dishwasher, but=20 these folks sure seem to thing I'm obsessive about the placement of the=20= dishes in the dishwasher. They have no sense of spacial relationships.=20= I always have to go and reorganize...unfortunately that made it my=20 job, no one wants to develop these skills. Geez, now you've gotton me to admit twice that I'm not as laid back and=20= easy going as I claim. This must stop. -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 09:51 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/20/2003 10:22:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > I think the clean socks is a camping thing.=A0 Dry feet are necessary = for > survival.=A0 Clean socks are a joy. > > > > John, > > You're right.=A0 In my yout' as a Boy Scout, I got to the point where = I=20 > couldn;t stand being dirty anymore, but absolutely the worst was to=20 > have to wear already-worn socks.=A0 Gives me the shivers just thinking=20= > about it. > > Having seen all manner of muck floating around in a pan of supposedly=20= > clean Boy Scout dishwater on a campout early on, I also learned a=20 > valuable and vivid lesson about the importance of getting the crud off=20= > before you even think about putting the dish in the dishwater.=A0 I = have=20 > been a stickler for clean dishes, and proper methods of obtaining=20 > same, ever since.=A0 The Little Ralphs, and even Mrs. Ralph, do not = seem=20 > to "get" this, no matter how much I yell about it.=A0 Their failure in=20= > this regard is MOST distressing. > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-2-954712249 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I suppose I don't think much about the crud in the dishwasher, but these folks sure seem to thing I'm obsessive about the placement of the dishes in the dishwasher. They have no sense of spacial relationships. I always have to go and reorganize...unfortunately that made it my job, no one wants to develop these skills. Geez, now you've gotton me to admit twice that I'm not as laid back and easy going as I claim. This must stop. -jc On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 09:51 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/20/2003 10:22:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>I think the clean socks is a camping thing.=A0 Dry feet are necessary for survival.=A0 Clean socks are a joy. John, You're right.=A0 In my yout' as a Boy Scout, I got to the point where I couldn;t stand being dirty anymore, but absolutely the worst was to have to wear already-worn socks.=A0 Gives me the shivers just thinking about it. Having seen all manner of muck floating around in a pan of supposedly clean Boy Scout dishwater on a campout early on, I also learned a valuable and vivid lesson about the importance of getting the crud off before you even think about putting the dish in the dishwater.=A0 I have been a stickler for clean dishes, and proper methods of obtaining same, ever since.=A0 The Little Ralphs, and even Mrs. Ralph, do not seem to "get" this, no matter how much I yell about it.=A0 Their failure in this regard is MOST distressing. Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2-954712249-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:29:06 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: ATTEND-Christopher's help is needed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14.ac882b8.2b8783a2_boundary" --part1_14.ac882b8.2b8783a2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chrif, I need your assistance. Steve Dear Friend, My name is LOI C.ESTRADA,The wife of Mr. JOSEPH ESTRADA, the former President of Philippines located in the South East Asia. My husband was recently impeached from office by a backed uprising of mass demonstrators and the Senate. My husband is presently in jail and facing trial on charges of corruption, embezzlement, and the mysterious charge of plunder which might lead to death sentence. The present government is forcing my husband out of Manila to avoid demonstration by his supporters. During my husband's regime as president of Philippine, I realized some reasonable amount of money from various deals that I successfully executed. I have plans to invest this money for my children's future on real estate and industrial production. My husband is not aware of this because I wish to do it secretly for now. before my husband was impeached, I secretly siphoned the sum of $30,000,000 million USD (Thirty million United states dollars) out of Philippines and deposited the money with a security firm that transports valuable goods and consignments through diplomatic means. I am contacting you because I want you to go to the security company and claim the money on my behalf since I have declared that the consignment belong to my foreign business partner. You shall also be required to assist me in investment in your country. I hope to trust you as a God fearing person who will not sit on this money when you claim it, rather assist me properly, I expect you to declare what percentage of the total money you will take for your assistance. When I receive your positive response I will let you know where the security company is and the payment pin code to claim the money which is very important. For now, let all our communication is by e-mail because my line are right now connected to the Philippines Telecommunication Network services. Please also send me your telephone and fax number. I will ask my son contact you to give you more details on after i have received a responce from you.Respond through my most confodential email [log in to unmask] Thank you and God bless you and family. MRS LOI C ESTRADA NOTE;You can respond through [log in to unmask] --part1_14.ac882b8.2b8783a2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Chrif,<BR> <BR> I need your assistance.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZ= E=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> Dear Friend, <BR> <BR> My name is LOI C.ESTRADA,The wife of Mr. JOSEPH <BR> ESTRADA, the former President of Philippines located <BR> in the South East Asia. <BR> <BR> My husband was recently impeached from office by a <BR> backed uprising of mass demonstrators and the Senate. <BR> <BR> My husband is presently in jail and facing trial on <BR> charges of corruption, embezzlement, and the <BR> mysterious charge of plunder which might lead to death sentence. <BR> The present government is forcing my husband out of <BR> Manila to avoid demonstration by his supporters. <BR> <BR> During my husband's regime as president of Philippine, <BR> I realized some reasonable amount of money from <BR> various deals that I successfully executed. I have <BR> plans to invest this money for my children's future on real estate and indus= trial production. My husband is not <BR> aware of this because I wish to do it secretly for <BR> now. <BR> <BR> before my husband was impeached, I secretly siphoned <BR> the sum of $30,000,000 million USD (Thirty million United states dollars) ou= t of Philippines and deposited the money with a security firm that transport= s valuable goods and consignments through diplomatic means. <BR> <BR> I am contacting you because I want you to go to the <BR> security company and claim the money on my behalf <BR> since I have declared that the consignment belong to <BR> my foreign business partner. You shall also be <BR> required to assist me in investment in your country. <BR> <BR> I hope to trust you as a God fearing person who will <BR> not sit on this money when you claim it, rather assist me <BR> properly, I expect you to declare what percentage of <BR> the total money you will take for your assistance. <BR> <BR> When I receive your positive response I will let you <BR> know where the security company is <BR> and the payment pin code to claim the money which is <BR> very important. <BR> <BR> For now, let all our communication is by e-mail <BR> because my line are right now connected to the <BR> Philippines Telecommunication Network services. Please <BR> also send me your telephone and fax number. <BR> <BR> I will ask my son contact you to give you more details on after i have recei= ved a responce from you.Respond through my most confodential email mrsestrad= [log in to unmask] <BR> <BR> Thank you and God bless you and family. <BR> <BR> MRS LOI C ESTRADA <BR> <BR> NOTE;You can respond through [log in to unmask] <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_14.ac882b8.2b8783a2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:37:31 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <000c01c2d998$b30375c0$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-955458844 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-4-955458844 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Jim, Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my right to due process). Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of representatives...enough is enough! Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that cause problems. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote > in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb > won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from > the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in > many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus > all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that > just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern > Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole > sout. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ralph Walter > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to > my shame. > > > > What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing > Dubya. > > Ralph > --Apple-Mail-4-955458844 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Jim, Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my right to due process). Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of representatives...enough is enough! Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that cause problems. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole sout.</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>jh</smaller></fontfamily> ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>Ralph Walter</color></underline> <bold>To:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[log in to unmask]</color></underline> <bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[log in to unmask]</color></underline> writes: Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to my shame. <color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing Dubya. Ralph</color></smaller></fontfamily> </excerpt> --Apple-Mail-4-955458844-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:38:12 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-955499003 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-6-955499003 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed EWWWWWW! YUCK! On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 07:22 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > In a message dated 2/20/2003 12:43:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Better that Perot lost than Clinton won. > > > > Ralph, > > I think you are correct. Can you imagine Perot with Lewinsky? > > Steve --Apple-Mail-6-955499003 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII EWWWWWW! YUCK! On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 07:22 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Comic Sans MS</param>In a message dated 2/20/2003 12:43:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>Better that Perot lost than Clinton won. </smaller></color></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Comic Sans MS</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Ralph, I think you are correct. Can you imagine Perot with Lewinsky? Steve</color></fontfamily></excerpt> --Apple-Mail-6-955499003-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:48:35 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d7.35a46fe.2b878833_boundary" --part1_1d7.35a46fe.2b878833_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 6:02:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. Jim, As an architect, I use a special subtracting calculator when reviewing contractors' Applications for Payment. This is as opposed to contractors, who use a special multiplying calculator for preparing their bids and Applications for Payment. Ralph --part1_1d7.35a46fe.2b878833_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 6:02:44 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It would help if you were able=20= to add better than I can spell.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Jim,<BR> <BR> As an architect, I use a special subtracting calculator when reviewing contr= actors' Applications for Payment. This is as opposed to contractors, w= ho use a special multiplying calculator for preparing their bids and Applica= tions for Payment.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1d7.35a46fe.2b878833_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:00:24 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-956831359 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-8-956831359 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Don't mix up your calculators when you submit your invoice! -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 07:48 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/21/2003 6:02:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. > > > > Jim, > > As an architect, I use a special subtracting calculator when reviewing=20= > contractors' Applications for Payment.=A0 This is as opposed to=20 > contractors, who use a special multiplying calculator for preparing=20 > their bids and Applications for Payment. > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-8-956831359 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don't mix up your calculators when you submit your invoice! -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 07:48 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/21/2003 6:02:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. Jim, As an architect, I use a special subtracting calculator when reviewing contractors' Applications for Payment.=A0 This is as opposed to contractors, who use a special multiplying calculator for preparing their bids and Applications for Payment. Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-8-956831359-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:04:24 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01C2D988.3B7777A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C2D988.3B7777A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks? Ralph<< No, but I can't stand it when the big toe holes are both lefties! Rudy ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C2D988.3B7777A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2D988.3A79B6B0"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>>></span></= font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks?<br> <br> Ralph<font color=3Dnavy><span = style=3D'color:navy'><<<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>No, but I can’t stand it when the big toe holes are both = lefties!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Rudy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C2D988.3B7777A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:08:13 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_194.15834143.2b878ccd_boundary" --part1_194.15834143.2b878ccd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 10:12:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks? > No, but I like clean boxers also. Not just clean socks. Sign me, Boxersocks --part1_194.15834143.2b878ccd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 10:12:01 PM Easte= rn Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks= ?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> No, but I like clean boxers also. Not just clean socks.<BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> Boxersocks </FONT></HTML> --part1_194.15834143.2b878ccd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:12:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4b.2b1b22a0.2b878dd2_boundary" --part1_4b.2b1b22a0.2b878dd2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/2003 7:53:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You must be some prize yourself. > Ralf, Thanks for the compliment. Steve --part1_4b.2b1b22a0.2b878dd2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/20/2003 7:53:48 PM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">You must be some prize yourself.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ralf,<BR> <BR> Thanks for the compliment.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_4b.2b1b22a0.2b878dd2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:17:18 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Boxers on? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01C2D98A.08CEF3D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C2D98A.08CEF3D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>No, but I like clean boxers also. Not just clean socks. Sign me, Boxersocks << We've always had Collies. Grandpa had a boxer. Kept pretty clean all by herself really. The day Grandpa died at the hospital, the family came home and found Tony curled up dead in her dog house. Her work was done. Please let me keep my memories for a while yet. Rudy ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C2D98A.08CEF3D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2D98A.07D132E0"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; panose-1:3 15 7 2 3 3 2 2 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:script; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:647 0 0 0 159 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial = FAMILY=3DSCRIPT><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dnavy face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy;background:white'>>></span></= font><font color=3Dblack face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic = Sans MS"; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:black;background:white'>No, but I like = clean boxers also. Not just clean socks.<br> <br> Sign me,<br> Boxersocks </span></font><font color=3Dnavy face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans = MS";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy; background:white'><<<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>We’ve always had Collies. Grandpa had a boxer. Kept pretty clean all by <span class=3DGramE>herself</span> really. The day Grandpa died at the = hospital, the family came home and found Tony curled up dead in her dog house. Her = work was done.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Please let me keep my memories for a while yet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Rudy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C2D98A.08CEF3D0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:23:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2d.2b409793.2b879047_boundary" --part1_2d.2b409793.2b879047_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 8:23:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I think you are correct. Can you imagine Perot with Lewinsky? > Steve, Speaking of bringing up lunch.... Ralph --part1_2d.2b409793.2b879047_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 8:23:37 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I think you are correct. Can you imagine Perot with Le= winsky?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Steve,<BR> <BR> Speaking of bringing up lunch....<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_2d.2b409793.2b879047_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:23:10 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_39.34586791.2b87904e_boundary" --part1_39.34586791.2b87904e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't see where this gave the nice Mr. Hussein a green light to take anything. The point is that it probably did not give a green light, then again it did not give a red light, and the relevance is the interpretation that such wobbly and inept diplomacy is a weakness to be exploited. In the same conversation Saddam expressed that the US was too weak to stomach 10,000 body bags. An Iraq official later admitted that they knew full well that the US would not be happy. Is it good for the US to have a global reputation as a blow-hard and diplomatic woosie? Last thing I want is kids that I know in the military today not coming home. Seems to me I read recently that Teddy Roosevelt was a woosie blow-hard. ][<en --part1_39.34586791.2b87904e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I don't see where this gave the nice Mr. Hussein a gre= en light to take anything. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000= " style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"= Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> The point is that it probably did not give a green light, then again it did=20= not give a red light, and the relevance is the interpretation that such wobb= ly and inept diplomacy is a weakness to be exploited. In the same conversati= on Saddam expressed that the US was too weak to stomach 10,000 body bags. An= Iraq official later admitted that they knew full well that the US would not= be happy. Is it good for the US to have a global reputation as a blow-hard=20= and diplomatic woosie? Last thing I want is kids that I know in the military= today not coming home. Seems to me I read recently that Teddy Roosevelt was= a woosie blow-hard.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_39.34586791.2b87904e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:31:13 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP Un? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4d.2c190302.2b879231_boundary" --part1_4d.2c190302.2b879231_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/03 8:24:43 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > the placement of the dishes in the dishwasher. They have no sense of > spacial relationships. John, I have fallen in love with you - will you marry me? Yrs., Rinse Cycle --part1_4d.2c190302.2b879231_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/03 8:24:43 AM, johncalla= [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> the placement of the dishe= s in the dishwasher. They have no sense of spacial relationships. &nbs= p; I always have to go and reorganize...</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>John, I have fallen in love with you - will you marry me? Yr= s., Rinse Cycle </FONT></HTML> --part1_4d.2c190302.2b879231_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:35:55 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: ATTEND-Christopher's help is needed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_39.3458a991.2b87934b_boundary" --part1_39.3458a991.2b87934b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/03 8:30:01 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > Chrif, I need your assistance. Steve > > Dear Friend, > My name is LOI C.ESTRADA,The wife of Mr. JOSEPH ESTRADA, the former > President of Philippines located in the South East Asia. My husband was > recently impeached from office by a backed uprising of mass demonstrators > and the Senate. > Dear Loi: You little bitch! Joey was my husband, and I've got the ring to prove it! You give me back that $30 million or I'll tear your lying ass apart! You can keep his two-timing ashes. Yrs., Now Engaged to John Callan --part1_39.3458a991.2b87934b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/03 8:30:01 AM, SavannahI= [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic= Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2= px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Chrif, &nb= sp; I need your assistance. Steve</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00= 0000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR>Dear Friend,=20 <BR>My name is LOI C.ESTRADA,The wife of Mr. JOSEPH ESTRADA, the forme= r President of Philippines located in the South East Asia. My hu= sband was recently impeached from office by a backed uprising of mass=20= demonstrators and the Senate.=20 <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Dear Loi: <BR>You little bitch! Joey was my husband, and I've got th= e ring to prove it! You give me back that $30 million or I'll tear you= r lying ass apart! You can keep his two-timing ashes.=20 <BR>Yrs., Now Engaged to John Callan</FONT></HTML> --part1_39.3458a991.2b87934b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:37:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e5.29b577b.2b879395_boundary" --part1_1e5.29b577b.2b879395_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 8:24:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: John, > I suppose I don't think much about the crud in the dishwasher I was > referring to crud in pans full of dishwater, in which (theoretically) > dishes were being "washed", but in fact the crud was brushed off one guy's > dishes and floated onto the next guy's. but these folks sure seem to thing > I'm obsessive about the placement of the dishes in the dishwasher. There's > nothing obsessive about this. The dishwashers are designed to have dishes > put into them in a certain way, and when people other than you and I don't > do it that way, but just throw them in any way they feel like, they're > doing it wrong. Don't we insist that contractors follow manufacturers' > instructions, and don't the manufacturers insist on the same thing? They > have no sense of spacial relationships. Or of following instructions. I > always have to go and reorganize...unfortunately that made it my job, no > one wants to develop these skills. The rest of the world is very fortunate > to have us saving them from their own folly, but I get the feeling that we > are not as appreciated as we deserve. > > Geez, now you've gotton me to admit twice that I'm not as laid back and > easy going as I claim. This must stop. There are (in theory) some matters > in which a certain limited flexibility may not be entirely deleterious, but > in all others, proper procedures should be followed. Under pain of death. Mr. Easygoing --part1_1e5.29b577b.2b879395_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 8:24:43 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <B>John,</B><BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I suppose I don't think much ab= out the crud in the dishwasher <B>I was referring to crud in pans full of di= shwa<U>t</U>er</B>, <B>in which (theoretically) dishes were being "washed",=20= but in fact the crud was brushed off one guy's dishes and floated onto the n= ext guy's. </B>but these folks sure seem to thing I'm obsessive about the pl= acement of the dishes in the dishwasher. <B>There's nothing obsessive about=20= this. The dishwashers are designed to have dishes put into them in a c= ertain way, and when people other than you and I don't do it that way, but j= ust throw them in any way they feel like, they're doing it <U>wrong</U>. Don= 't we insist that contractors follow manufacturers' instructions, and don't=20= the manufacturers insist on the same thing? </B>They have no sense of=20= spacial relationships. <B>Or of following instructions. </B> I al= ways have to go and reorganize...unfortunately that made it my job, no one w= ants to develop these skills. <B>The rest of the world is very fortuna= te to have us saving them from their own folly, but I get the feeling that w= e are not as appreciated as we deserve.</B><BR> <BR> Geez, now you've gotton me to admit twice that I'm not as laid back and <BR> easy going as I claim. This must stop. <B>There are (in theory)=20= some matters in which a certain limited flexibility may not be entirely dele= terious, but in all others, proper procedures should be followed. Unde= r pain of death.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGR= OUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"= ></B><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Mr. Easygoing</B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1e5.29b577b.2b879395_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:37:47 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Large Armies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_19f.1122f76c.2b8793bb_boundary" --part1_19f.1122f76c.2b8793bb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The following from my political strategy advisor: "A great quote made by some comedian, I think bill hicks =3D=3D>=20 "So Iraq had the fifth largest army in the world... So what did desert storm= =20 teach us?=A0 That there is a HUGE f***ing drop-off between THE largest army=20= and=20 the FIFTH largest army" =3DD" XXX --part1_19f.1122f76c.2b8793bb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">The following from my political strategy advisor:<BR> <BR> "A great quote made by some comedian, I think bill hicks =3D=3D> <BR> <BR> "So Iraq had the fifth largest army in the world... So what did desert storm= teach us?=A0 That there is a HUGE f***ing drop-off between THE largest army= and the FIFTH largest army" =3DD"<BR> <BR> XXX</FONT></HTML> --part1_19f.1122f76c.2b8793bb_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:40:13 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: ATTEND-Christopher's help is needed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a7.2ead6579.2b87944d_boundary" --part1_a7.2ead6579.2b87944d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Christopher. Steve --part1_a7.2ead6579.2b87944d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Thanks Christopher.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_a7.2ead6579.2b87944d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:40:17 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Is that what you get when you mate your dog with... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_125.1e962445.2b879451_boundary" --part1_125.1e962445.2b879451_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/03 9:18:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Sign me, Boxersocks << ...the former Presidential cat? Sign me, Perot with a Saxophone --part1_125.1e962445.2b879451_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/03 9:18:23 AM Eastern St= andard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic= Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2= px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Sign me, B= oxersocks </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><<</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic= Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>...the former Presidential cat? Sign me, Perot w= ith a Saxophone=20 <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_125.1e962445.2b879451_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:41:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_184.174f6bf0.2b8794ac_boundary" --part1_184.174f6bf0.2b8794ac_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:00:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Don't mix up your calculators when you submit your invoice! > John, We architects prefer not to submit invoices. It's so plebeian. We know that our clients are honorable people who respect and appreciate our professionalism, and who will pay us promptly and in full each and every time, without exception. Ralph --part1_184.174f6bf0.2b8794ac_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:00:09 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Don't mix up your calculators w= hen you submit your invoice!<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> John,<BR> <BR> We architects prefer not to submit invoices. It's so plebeian.<BR> <BR> We know that our clients are honorable people who respect and appreciate our= professionalism, and who will pay us promptly and in full each and every ti= me, without exception.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_184.174f6bf0.2b8794ac_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:43:42 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Large Armies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_47.2abc44f2.2b87951e_boundary" --part1_47.2abc44f2.2b87951e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/03 9:38:37 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > A great quote made by some comedian, I think bill hicks ==> Ken, I know we're both hoping the joke is as funny the second time around. --part1_47.2abc44f2.2b87951e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/03 9:38:37 AM, ARWNY@AOL= .COM writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A great quote made by some=20= comedian, I think bill hicks =3D=3D> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Ken, I know we're both hoping the joke is as funny the second time aroun= d.</FONT></HTML> --part1_47.2abc44f2.2b87951e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:43:56 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c5.56e5711.2b87952c_boundary" --part1_1c5.56e5711.2b87952c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:05:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes: > No, but I can=E2=80=99t stand it when the big toe holes are both lefties! I thought it was Steve's wife who had the peg leg. Maybe you two should get= =20 together, and ditch Steve. If you can get away. Har, har, har. Ralph --part1_1c5.56e5711.2b87952c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:05:31 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">No, but I can=E2=80=99t stand it when the big toe holes are= both lefties!</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROU= ND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><= BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I thought it was Steve's wife who had the peg leg. Maybe you two shoul= d get together, and ditch Steve.<BR> <BR> If you can get away. Har, har, har.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c5.56e5711.2b87952c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:45:56 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Clean Socks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c1.560f63c.2b8795a4_boundary" --part1_1c1.560f63c.2b8795a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the clean socks is a camping thing. Dry feet are necessary for survival. Clean socks are a joy. W/ the diabetes it is important for me to maintain monitoring of my feet and the daily use of clean socks is a habitual reminder for me to keep working to avoid future need for amputation. I know that clean socks won't make a difference, it is how I feel about clean socks that does. I see it as the same phenomena of avoiding nativism that the British practiced in the Congo, that is, as long as I am able to keep clean socks then there is hope against the unknown darkness. What really bothers me is the prospect of blindness, but it does not mean that I need clean eye cups daily. ][<en --part1_1c1.560f63c.2b8795a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I think the clean socks is a camping thing. Dry=20= feet are necessary for survival. Clean socks are a joy.</BLOCKQUOTE></= FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 F= AMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> W/ the diabetes it is important for me to maintain monitoring of my feet and= the daily use of clean socks is a habitual reminder for me to keep working=20= to avoid future need for amputation. I know that clean socks won't make a di= fference, it is how I feel about clean socks that does. I see it as the same= phenomena of avoiding nativism that the British practiced in the Congo, tha= t is, as long as I am able to keep clean socks then there is hope against th= e unknown darkness. What really bothers me is the prospect of blindness, but= it does not mean that I need clean eye cups daily.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c1.560f63c.2b8795a4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:46:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Boxers on? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11.ac78a69.2b8795ab_boundary" --part1_11.ac78a69.2b8795ab_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:18:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Please let me keep my memories for a while yet Rudy, In that case, don't try to keep them in your left socks. Ralph --part1_11.ac78a69.2b8795ab_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:18:23 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Please let me keep my memories for a while yet</BLOCKQUOTE>= </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Rudy,<BR> <BR> In that case, don't try to keep them in your left socks.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_11.ac78a69.2b8795ab_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:47:35 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2b.3985d6e7.2b879607_boundary" --part1_2b.3985d6e7.2b879607_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into the cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. My solution to matching socks is to only buy socks all of the same color and to throw out any socks that are not black. ][<en --part1_2b.3985d6e7.2b879607_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the eff= ort to find matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "i= nto the cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> My solution to matching socks is to only buy socks all of the same color and= to throw out any socks that are not black.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_2b.3985d6e7.2b879607_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:51:26 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: ATTEND-Christopher's help is needed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_105.28538945.2b8796ee_boundary" --part1_105.28538945.2b8796ee_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scoundrel? --part1_105.28538945.2b8796ee_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Scoundrel?</FONT></HTML> --part1_105.28538945.2b8796ee_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:51:31 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Clean Socks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15f.1c312485.2b8796f3_boundary" --part1_15f.1c312485.2b8796f3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:46:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > What really bothers me is the prospect of blindness, but it does not mean > that I need clean eye cups daily. > Ken, Isn't "the prospect of blindness" an oxymoron? Just checking. Ralph --part1_15f.1c312485.2b8796f3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:46:47 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What really bothers me is the p= rospect of blindness, but it does not mean that I need clean eye cups daily.= <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ken,<BR> <BR> Isn't "the prospect of blindness" an oxymoron?<BR> <BR> Just checking. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_15f.1c312485.2b8796f3_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:53:59 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Sneaky Drilling MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1f0.27dae48.2b879787_boundary" --part1_1f0.27dae48.2b879787_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guess his name was neither Cheney nor Bush. Or Ewing, for that matter. Maybe he was even a Democrat. His name may have been Martin... but not the one Ralph dreams about. ][<en --part1_1f0.27dae48.2b879787_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Guess his name was neither Cheney nor Bush. Or E= wing, for that matter. Maybe he was even a Democrat.</BLOCKQUOTE></FON= T><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMI= LY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> His name may have been Martin... but not the one Ralph dreams about. ][<e= n</FONT></HTML> --part1_1f0.27dae48.2b879787_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:53:51 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5w540BfM7j56LawiY2BHlw)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_5w540BfM7j56LawiY2BHlw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ralph - Are your clients all on the "Net 947" plan? - Pam -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ralph Walter Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:42 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:00:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Don't mix up your calculators when you submit your invoice! John, We architects prefer not to submit invoices. It's so plebeian. We know that our clients are honorable people who respect and appreciate our professionalism, and who will pay us promptly and in full each and every time, without exception. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_5w540BfM7j56LawiY2BHlw) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=515325314-21022003>Ralph -</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=515325314-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=515325314-21022003>Are your clients all on the "Net 947" plan?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=515325314-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=515325314-21022003>- Pam</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ralph Walter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 9:42 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response & Constitution<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:00:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE">Don't mix up your calculators when you submit your invoice!<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>John,<BR><BR>We architects prefer not to submit invoices. It's so plebeian.<BR><BR>We know that our clients are honorable people who respect and appreciate our professionalism, and who will pay us promptly and in full each and every time, without exception.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_5w540BfM7j56LawiY2BHlw)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:00:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Draft Evasion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6e.2abb51b5.2b8798f4_boundary" --part1_6e.2abb51b5.2b8798f4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en More fuel for the democratic fire: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed...=20 managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the many=20 tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most=20 damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal=20 allegiance to their country." (Colin Powell=E2=80=99s autobiography, My Amer= ican=20 Journey, p. 148)=20 <A HREF=3D"http://www.awolbush.com/">http://www.awolbush.com/</A> --part1_6e.2abb51b5.2b8798f4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">More fuel for the democratic fire:<BR> <BR> "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed... mana= ged to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the many traged= ies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damagin= g to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance= to their country." (Colin Powell=E2=80=99s autobiography, <U>My American Jo= urney</U>, p. 148) <BR> <BR> <A HREF=3D"http://www.awolbush.com/">http://www.awolbush.com/</A><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_6e.2abb51b5.2b8798f4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:01:36 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Large Armies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_140.b35b202.2b879950_boundary" --part1_140.b35b202.2b879950_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken, I know we're both hoping the joke is as funny the second time around. 10-4 on that bro'... nervous laughter in the background... --part1_140.b35b202.2b879950_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Ken, I know we're both hoping the joke is as fun= ny the second time around.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUN= D-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> <= /BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> 10-4 on that bro'... nervous laughter in the background...</FONT></HTML> --part1_140.b35b202.2b879950_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:02:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: It's despicable when people make light of the disabilities of others.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ab.112cc2fd.2b87999a_boundary" --part1_1ab.112cc2fd.2b87999a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/03 9:46:47 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > W/ the diabetes it is important for me to maintain monitoring of my feet and > the daily use of clean socks is a habitual reminder for me to keep working > ...but you would save on sock purchases. And swim fins. Yrs., 2LeftFeet PS Also toenail clipper sharpening. Pedicures. Shoelaces. Shoe polish. And Polish shoes. --part1_1ab.112cc2fd.2b87999a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/03 9:46:47 AM, ARWNY@AOL= .COM writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">W/ the diabetes it is impor= tant for me to maintain monitoring of my feet and the daily use of clean soc= ks is a habitual reminder for me to keep working to avoid future need for am= putation</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>...but you would save on sock purchases. And swim fins. &nbs= p; Yrs., 2LeftFeet <BR> <BR>PS Also toenail clipper sharpening. Pedicures. Shoelaces. &n= bsp;Shoe polish. And Polish shoes. <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_1ab.112cc2fd.2b87999a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:10:32 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: ATTEND-Christopher's help is needed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a9.39e2146d.2b879b68_boundary" --part1_a9.39e2146d.2b879b68_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to Christopher this was my response to Loi C. Estrada. Dear Loi: You little bitch! Joey was my husband, and I have the ring to prove it! You give me back that $30 million or I will tear your lying ass apart! You keep his two-timing ashes. Hey, and while you're at it how about get a job and stop sending this ridiculous crap over the Internet you moron. Also I will need your banking and credit card account numbers so I can provide for Joseph's illegitimate children. Please forward all account numbers ASAP. Do you know what ASAP means? Forward all monies to, The Pinheads of Bullamanka Foundation c/o Ralf Walter AIA, BBA, FAA, Ph.D 1400 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington, DC 20003. Yrs., Now engaged to John Callan, Ralph Walter, Jim Hicks, ][<en Follett, and Dan Becker --part1_a9.39e2146d.2b879b68_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Thanks to Christopher this was= my response to Loi C. Estrada.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACK= GROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LAN= G=3D"0"><BR> <BR> Dear Loi:<BR> <BR> You little bitch! Joey was my husband, and I have the ring to prove it! You=20= give me back that $30 million or I will tear your lying ass apart! You keep=20= his two-timing ashes. Hey, and while you're at it how about get a job and st= op sending this ridiculous crap over the Internet you moron. Also I will nee= d your banking and credit card account numbers so I can provide for Joseph's= illegitimate children. Please forward all account numbers ASAP. Do you know= what ASAP means? Forward all monies to, The Pinheads of Bullamanka Foundati= on c/o Ralf Walter AIA, BBA, FAA, Ph.D 1400 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington, DC= 20003.<BR> <BR> Yrs., Now engaged to John Callan, Ralph Walter, Jim Hicks, ][<en Follett,= and Dan Becker</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f= fffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_a9.39e2146d.2b879b68_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:15:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Boxers on? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a6.11222fe2.2b879c7b_boundary" --part1_1a6.11222fe2.2b879c7b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:46:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > In that case, don't try to keep them in your left socks. > Good advice. Sign me, Holytoe --part1_1a6.11222fe2.2b879c7b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:46:45 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">In that case, don't try to keep them in your left socks.<BR= > </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Good advice.<BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> Holytoe</FONT></HTML> --part1_1a6.11222fe2.2b879c7b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:16:33 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C2D992.4F2EB970" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C2D992.4F2EB970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm pretty sure I heard a bit on NPR or saw something on PBS receintly = about just that . Do Google search or go to their web sites. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ralph Walter=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/20/2003 8:59:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: You got any info on the Jewish utopia that Stalin created in the = Soviet Union? A precursor to Israel. I'd never heard of it until the = other day. What gives? Turned out to be more of a Socialist non-paradise than a Jewish = utopia. I THINK it was a late Lenin program, or very early Stalin, and = the Jews proved to be more interested in being Jewish and insufficiently = socialist for the Soviets' taste. =20 Others probably know more; I certainly hope so. Ralph Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C2D992.4F2EB970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm pretty sure I heard a bit on NPR or = saw=20 something on PBS receintly about just that . Do Google search or go to = their web=20 sites.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph = Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 20, = 2003 12:38=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/20/2003 8:59:00 AM Eastern = Standard=20 Time, <A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> = writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">You got any info on the Jewish utopia that Stalin = created in the=20 Soviet Union? A precursor to Israel. I'd never heard of it until the = other=20 day. What gives?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D3=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>Turned = out to be more=20 of a Socialist non-paradise than a Jewish utopia. I THINK it was = a late=20 Lenin program, or very early Stalin, and the Jews proved to be more = interested=20 in being Jewish and insufficiently socialist for the Soviets' = taste. =20 <BR><BR>Others probably know more; I certainly hope=20 so.<BR><BR>Ralph<BR><BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> = </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C2D992.4F2EB970-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:22:58 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'ts not horizonal drilling but 'slant' drilling into Iraq from Kuwait. April Glatsby, the ambisador, was reported to have said that the US didn't have an intrest in Iraq's intentions in Kuwait. That is what was reported so who knows what was really said. In any case I think SM was completely sand bagged. Just the boogy man needed at the time. And now. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Marcham" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > At what point in the "last time around" was this agreement for a slice of > Kuwait alleged to have been made? The only thing I can recollect of that > nature was a weak response by our envoy a short time before he invaded > Kuwait as to the US's position on his saber rattling (not that I was paying > a whole lot of attention but that was one thing that hit the news back then > as to how SH could've gotten the idea that we wouldn't come to the Kuwaiti's > aid). > > My understanding of the situation was that SH was pissed because the > Kuwaitis were supposedly taking advantage of the new "horizontal drilling > technology" (which may be able to drill down and then turn horizontal though > I have a real hard time imagining the hardware that can do that), using it > to cross the Kuwait/Iraq border and take Iraqi oil. > > Mind you this is just my understanding/recollection of what took place. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:57 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > > > I also understand that the US told Saddam that he could have a piece of > Kuwait the last time around, some of their oil reserves, only he got greedy > and took too much and we therefore had to go in to slap him around as a > result. > > > > ][<en > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:49:33 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: ATTEND-Christopher's help is needed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_142.b357781.2b87a48d_boundary" --part1_142.b357781.2b87a48d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:35:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Scoundrel? Why thank you sir. --part1_142.b357781.2b87a48d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:35:16 AM Easte= rn Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Scoundrel?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROU= ND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0">=20= </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Why thank you sir.</FONT></HTML> --part1_142.b357781.2b87a48d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:00:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ad.2b020c32.2b87a704_boundary" --part1_ad.2b020c32.2b87a704_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:34:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > My solution to matching socks is to only buy socks all of the same color and > to throw out any socks that are not black. > Ken, Even this doesn't work for me. The damn black socks fade to all manner of mismatched shades of gray. Ralph --part1_ad.2b020c32.2b87a704_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:34:28 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My solution to matching socks i= s to only buy socks all of the same color and to throw out any socks that ar= e not black.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Ken,<BR> <BR> Even <U>this</U> doesn't work for me. The damn black socks fade to all= manner of mismatched shades of gray.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_ad.2b020c32.2b87a704_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:01:26 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Sneaky Drilling MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c1.5622cca.2b87a756_boundary" --part1_1c1.5622cca.2b87a756_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:35:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > His name may have been Martin... but not the one Ralph dreams about. You mean there are more of them?????? Ralph PS-- That dream only occurred once, thank God. So far, anyway. --part1_1c1.5622cca.2b87a756_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:35:55 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">His name may have been Martin..= . but not the one Ralph dreams about. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0= 00000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FAC= E=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> You mean there are more of them??????<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> PS-- That dream only occurred once, thank God. So far, anyway. </FONT>= </HTML> --part1_1c1.5622cca.2b87a756_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:02:35 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ed.27f1f1e.2b87a79b_boundary" --part1_1ed.27f1f1e.2b87a79b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:35:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Are your clients all on the "Net 947" plan? > Pam, All right: I'll ask what the "Net 947 Plan" is. Ralph --part1_1ed.27f1f1e.2b87a79b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:35:56 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Are your clients all on the "Net 947" plan?</FONT><FON= T COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"= SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Pam,<BR> <BR> All right: I'll ask what the "Net 947 Plan" is.<BR> <BR> Ralph </FONT></HTML> --part1_1ed.27f1f1e.2b87a79b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:04:15 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Draft Evasion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_139.1b6738dd.2b87a7ff_boundary" --part1_139.1b6738dd.2b87a7ff_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:37:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] M=20 writes: > More fuel for the democratic fire: >=20 > "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed...=20 > managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the many=20 > tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most= =20 > damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal=20 > allegiance to their country." (Colin Powell=E2=80=99s autobiography, My Am= erican=20 > Journey, p. 148)=20 >=20 I just knew I liked Powell. But wasn't he born in Jamaica or some damn=20 place, so we can't get him for President? Ralph --part1_139.1b6738dd.2b87a7ff_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:37:29 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">More fuel for the democratic fi= re:<BR> <BR> "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed... mana= ged to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the many traged= ies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damagin= g to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance= to their country." (Colin Powell=E2=80=99s autobiography, <U>My American Jo= urney</U>, p. 148) <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I just knew I liked Powell. But wasn't he born in Jamaica or some damn= place, so we <U>can't</U> get him for President?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_139.1b6738dd.2b87a7ff_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:07:17 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: ATTEND-Christopher's help is needed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4e.1807ea83.2b87a8b5_boundary" --part1_4e.1807ea83.2b87a8b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:40:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ralf Walter AIA, BBA, FAA, Ph.D You left out BFD. I'm sure her money will come pouring in right on top of everybody's dues, and everyone will be invited to the party. Ralph --part1_4e.1807ea83.2b87a8b5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:40:39 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Ralf Walter AIA, BBA, FAA, Ph.D</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FO= NT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> You left out BFD. I'm sure her money will come pouring in right on top of ev= erybody's dues, and everyone will be invited to the party.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_4e.1807ea83.2b87a8b5_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:07:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Boxers on? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_61.2de46d94.2b87a8dd_boundary" --part1_61.2de46d94.2b87a8dd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:41:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Good advice. > We aim to please. You aim too, please. The Management --part1_61.2de46d94.2b87a8dd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:41:23 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Good advice.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> We aim to please. You aim too, please.<BR> <BR> The Management</FONT></HTML> --part1_61.2de46d94.2b87a8dd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:08:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_74.2b02fe4a.2b87a90b_boundary" --part1_74.2b02fe4a.2b87a90b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:41:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > In any case I think SM was completely sandbagged. Shoulda been sandbuggered. Ralph --part1_74.2b02fe4a.2b87a90b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:41:56 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In any case I think SM was comp= letely sandbagged.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Shoulda been sandbuggered.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_74.2b02fe4a.2b87a90b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:12:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: It's despicable when people make light of the disabilities of others.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9.acb669c.2b87a9d9_boundary" --part1_9.acb669c.2b87a9d9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...but you would save on sock purchases. Well... since you strike at the foot of the problem... did Sharpshooter happen to be in Rhode Island list night playing with his box of fire crackers? Terrible... terrible... --part1_9.acb669c.2b87a9d9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">...but you would save on sock purchases. <= /BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff= ff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Well... since you strike at the foot of the problem... did Sharpshooter happ= en to be in Rhode Island list night playing with his box of fire crackers? T= errible... terrible...</FONT></HTML> --part1_9.acb669c.2b87a9d9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:15:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16a.1afc8ddf.2b87aa8d_boundary" --part1_16a.1afc8ddf.2b87aa8d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In any case I think SM was completely sand bagged. JH: So are you telling me it is not little SM in the child p*rn movies I've been watching? I paid a hell of a lot of money to get them black market and I'd hate to hear I got swindled. Oily little slicker ain't he? ][<en --part1_16a.1afc8ddf.2b87aa8d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In any case I think SM was completely sand bagged.</BL= OCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> JH: So are you telling me it is not little SM in the child p*rn movies I've=20= been watching? I paid a hell of a lot of money to get them black market and=20= I'd hate to hear I got swindled. Oily little slicker ain't he? ][<en</FON= T></HTML> --part1_16a.1afc8ddf.2b87aa8d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:16:14 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8.3485265d.2b87aace_boundary" --part1_8.3485265d.2b87aace_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The damn black socks fade to all manner of mismatched shades of gray. You should stop getting your socks at the Summit Mall. --part1_8.3485265d.2b87aace_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">The damn black socks fade to all manner of mismatched=20= shades of gray.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">You should stop getting your= socks at the Summit Mall.<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_8.3485265d.2b87aace_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:22:52 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Are you saying he was a Chickenhawk? http://www.awolbush.com/ <http://www.awolbush.com/> Lots of entertaining reading. From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Seems to me I read recently that Teddy Roosevelt was a woosie blow-hard. ][<en -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:23:46 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007D_01C2D99B.B2B17DD0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01C2D99B.B2B17DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ralph Walter=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:48 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/21/2003 6:02:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. Jim, As an architect, I use a special subtracting calculator when reviewing = contractors' Applications for Payment. This is as opposed to = contractors, who use a special multiplying calculator for preparing = their bids and Applications for Payment. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01C2D99B.B2B17DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>lol</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph = Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 = 8:48=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/21/2003 6:02:44 AM Eastern = Standard=20 Time, <A = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>=20 writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">It would help if you were able to add better than I can=20 spell.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Jim,<BR><BR>As an architect, I use a = special=20 subtracting calculator when reviewing contractors' Applications for=20 Payment. This is as opposed to contractors, who use a special=20 multiplying calculator for preparing their bids and Applications for=20 Payment.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01C2D99B.B2B17DD0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:31:45 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C2D99C.D030CD60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C2D99C.D030CD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EEEEW that'l hurt. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ralph Walter=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:41:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: In any case I think SM was completely sandbagged. Shoulda been sandbuggered. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C2D99C.D030CD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EEEEW that'l hurt.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph = Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 = 11:08=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:41:56 AM Eastern = Standard=20 Time, <A = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>=20 writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">In any case I think SM was completely=20 sandbagged.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Shoulda been = sandbuggered.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C2D99C.D030CD60-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:02:41 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: ATTEND-Christopher's help is needed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a3.3af7b7cb.2b87b5b1_boundary" --part1_a3.3af7b7cb.2b87b5b1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 11:08:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You left out BFD Darn I left out BSE also. Steve --part1_a3.3af7b7cb.2b87b5b1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 11:08:25 AM Easte= rn Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">You left out BFD</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000= " style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"= Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Darn I left out BSE also.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_a3.3af7b7cb.2b87b5b1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:42:59 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Draft Evasion In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0f1oOWkHoLgm4NTMSsR6PA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_0f1oOWkHoLgm4NTMSsR6PA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT It's been a while since I read My American Journey - I think he is a "native" American, if y'all get my drift. I'll have to look it up to double check, though. It's a good read - lots of juicy lines that beg to be highlighted and read again. -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ralph Walter Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Draft Evasion In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:37:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: More fuel for the democratic fire: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country." (Colin Powell’s autobiography, My American Journey, p. 148) I just knew I liked Powell. But wasn't he born in Jamaica or some damn place, so we can't get him for President? Ralph --Boundary_(ID_0f1oOWkHoLgm4NTMSsR6PA) Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=919454117-21022003>It's been a while since I read <U>My American Journey</U> - I think he is a "native" American, if y'all get my drift. I'll have to look it up to double check, though. It's a good read - lots of juicy lines that beg to be highlighted and read again.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ralph Walter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 11:04 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Draft Evasion<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:37:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE">More fuel for the democratic fire:<BR><BR>"I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country." (Colin Powell’s autobiography, <U>My American Journey</U>, p. 148) <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I just knew I liked Powell. But wasn't he born in Jamaica or some damn place, so we <U>can't</U> get him for President?<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_0f1oOWkHoLgm4NTMSsR6PA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:43:57 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_D5Ly+y1PsPA1poumWRRvxA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_D5Ly+y1PsPA1poumWRRvxA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ralph - Well, most receivables are Net 30 or Net 45 (as in days). I was just wondering if your clients were on the 3 years, give or take a few days, plan. - Pam -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ralph Walter Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:03 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:35:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Are your clients all on the "Net 947" plan? Pam, All right: I'll ask what the "Net 947 Plan" is. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_D5Ly+y1PsPA1poumWRRvxA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=508084317-21022003>Ralph -</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=508084317-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=508084317-21022003>Well, most receivables are Net 30 or Net 45 (as in days). I was just wondering if your clients were on the 3 years, give or take a few days, plan.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=508084317-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=508084317-21022003>- Pam</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ralph Walter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 11:03 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response & Constitution<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:35:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SCRIPT">Are your clients all on the "Net 947" plan?</FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=3 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Pam,<BR><BR>All right: I'll ask what the "Net 947 Plan" is.<BR><BR>Ralph </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_D5Ly+y1PsPA1poumWRRvxA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:46:20 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PAt2CSj+aq9taxth/W8Ypw)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_PAt2CSj+aq9taxth/W8Ypw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ralph - You and ][<en's son have something in common. Except, it's his white socks that "fade" to all manner of mismatched shades of grey. - Pam -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ralph Walter Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:00 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BP On? In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:34:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: My solution to matching socks is to only buy socks all of the same color and to throw out any socks that are not black. Ken, Even this doesn't work for me. The damn black socks fade to all manner of mismatched shades of gray. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_PAt2CSj+aq9taxth/W8Ypw) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=876164417-21022003>Ralph -</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=876164417-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=876164417-21022003>You and ][<en's son have something in common. Except, it's his white socks that "fade" to all manner of mismatched shades of grey.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=876164417-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=876164417-21022003>- Pam</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ralph Walter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 11:00 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: BP On?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:34:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE">My solution to matching socks is to only buy socks all of the same color and to throw out any socks that are not black.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=3 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Ken,<BR><BR>Even <U>this</U> doesn't work for me. The damn black socks fade to all manner of mismatched shades of gray.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_PAt2CSj+aq9taxth/W8Ypw)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:11:45 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: It's despicable when people make light of the disabilities of others.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e1.2a15db3.2b87c5e1_boundary" --part1_1e1.2a15db3.2b87c5e1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 11:13:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > did Sharpshooter happen to be in Rhode Island list night playing with his > box of fire crackers? What I seriously wonder is whether the building (located in West Warwick, the home of Dryvit) was built with EIFS. Ralph --part1_1e1.2a15db3.2b87c5e1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 11:13:52 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">did Sharpshooter happen to be i= n Rhode Island list night playing with his box of fire crackers?</BLOCKQUOTE= ></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> What I seriously wonder is whether the building (located in West Warwick, th= e home of Dryvit) was built with EIFS. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e1.2a15db3.2b87c5e1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:16:20 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b9.2eb7424d.2b87c6f4_boundary" --part1_b9.2eb7424d.2b87c6f4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 11:20:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You should stop getting your socks at the Summit Mall. > I don't believe I've ever shopped there for clothing. Or food, either. Electronics, hardware, and home furnishings, absolutely. Even I have some standards, and have (mostly) outgrown the War Surplus mode. I'm talking about brand new, not-previously-owned socks from Shoprite and some even bought from stores whose major business is selling clothes. Ralph --part1_b9.2eb7424d.2b87c6f4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 11:20:08 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You should stop getting your so= cks at the Summit Mall.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I don't believe I've ever shopped there for clothing. Or food, either. Elect= ronics, hardware, and home furnishings, absolutely. Even <U>I</U> have= some standards, and have (mostly) outgrown the War Surplus mode. I'm=20= talking about brand new, not-previously-owned socks from Shoprite and some e= ven bought from stores whose major business is selling clothes.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_b9.2eb7424d.2b87c6f4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:36:15 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP Un? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10-969782329 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-10-969782329 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thanks for the offer, but one's enough. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 08:31 AM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 2/21/03 8:24:43 AM, [log in to unmask] = writes: > > the placement of the dishes in the dishwasher. =A0They have no sense = of=20 > spacial relationships. =A0=A0I always have to go and reorganize... > > > > John, I have fallen in love with you - will you marry me? =A0=A0Yrs.,=20= > Rinse Cycle= --Apple-Mail-10-969782329 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for the offer, but one's enough. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 08:31 AM, Met History wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/21/03 8:24:43 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>the placement of the dishes in the dishwasher. =A0They have no sense of spacial relationships. =A0=A0I always have to = go and reorganize... <fontfamily><param>Times New = Roman</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>John, I have fallen in love with you - will you marry me? =A0=A0Yrs., Rinse = Cycle</smaller></color></fontfamily></excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-10-969782329-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:50:56 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Draft Evasion In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12-970663841 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-12-970663841 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed I like that man more and more everyday! I share his anger. Look who=20 he's working for! He must have self discipline that most can only=20 imagine. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 09:00 AM, Ken Follett wrote: > More fuel for the democratic fire: > > "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and=20 > well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard=20= > units...Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class=20 > discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all=20= > Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their=20 > country." (Colin Powell=92s autobiography, My American Journey, p. = 148) > > http://www.awolbush.com/ > --Apple-Mail-12-970663841 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 I like that man more and more everyday! I share his anger. Look who he's working for! He must have self discipline that most can only imagine. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 09:00 AM, Ken Follett wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>More fuel for the democratic fire: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country." (Colin Powell=92s autobiography, <underline>My American Journey</underline>, p. 148) <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>http://www.awolbush.com/ </color></underline></smaller></fontfamily> </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-12-970663841-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:22:23 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_21.2bf280fe.2b87c85f_boundary" --part1_21.2bf280fe.2b87c85f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 12:45:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Well, most receivables are Net 30 or Net 45 (as in days). I was just > wondering if your clients were on the 3 years, give or take a few days, > plan. > Pam, Actually my personal clients are pretty good about paying, with the (temporary) exception of a friend of my wife's who seemed to think there was some reason why she didn't need to pay a bill. One of my good friends (and clients) was so pissed off by this that he offered to pay me and sue her for what she owed. I've forgotten the details, but sure as hell remember the attempted stiffing. Unfortunately, Ken and my boss have had some joint clients who think that making full payment is unnecessary. I somehow find that much more irritating than when this woman tried to stiff me. Ralph --part1_21.2bf280fe.2b87c85f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 12:45:03 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Well, most receivables are Net 30 or Net 45 (as in day= s). I was just wondering if your clients were on the 3 years, give or=20= take a few days, plan.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-CO= LOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Pam,<BR> <BR> Actually my personal clients are pretty good about paying, with the (tempora= ry) exception of a friend of my wife's who seemed to think there was some re= ason why she didn't need to pay a bill. One of my good friends (and clients)= was so pissed off by this that he offered to pay me and sue her for what sh= e owed. I've forgotten the details, but sure as hell remember the attempted=20= stiffing. <BR> <BR> Unfortunately, Ken and my boss have had some joint clients who think that ma= king full payment is unnecessary. I somehow find that much more irrita= ting than when this woman tried to stiff me.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_21.2bf280fe.2b87c85f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:26:36 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Draft Evasion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6b.ab1c417.2b87c95c_boundary" --part1_6b.ab1c417.2b87c95c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 1:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I like that man more and more everyday! I share his anger. Look who > he's working for! He must have self discipline that most can only > imagine. > John, I have often wondered how Powell could stand to work for such a moron, and your point about the self discipline it must take to do so makes it even MORE impressive. Thanks! Ralph --part1_6b.ab1c417.2b87c95c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 1:23:21 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I like that man more and more e= veryday! I share his anger. Look who <BR> he's working for! He must have self discipline that most can only <BR> imagine.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> John,<BR> <BR> I have often wondered how Powell could stand to work for such a moron, and y= our point about the self discipline it must take to do so makes it even MORE= impressive.<BR> Thanks!<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_6b.ab1c417.2b87c95c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:21:27 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Large Armies In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Tr3/VSl88ZN/Sfj+LWH1Tg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Tr3/VSl88ZN/Sfj+LWH1Tg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I read a good one in the paper this morning... What do you call a crowd standing around with their hands up in the air? scroll down the French army. -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ken Follett Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:38 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Large Armies The following from my political strategy advisor: "A great quote made by some comedian, I think bill hicks ==> "So Iraq had the fifth largest army in the world... So what did desert storm teach us? That there is a HUGE f***ing drop-off between THE largest army and the FIFTH largest army" =D" XXX --Boundary_(ID_Tr3/VSl88ZN/Sfj+LWH1Tg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003>I read a good one in the paper this morning...</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003>What do you call a crowd standing around with their hands up in the air?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003>scroll down</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=750222021-21022003>the French army.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken Follett<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 9:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Large Armies<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">The following from my political strategy advisor:<BR><BR>"A great quote made by some comedian, I think bill hicks ==> <BR><BR>"So Iraq had the fifth largest army in the world... So what did desert storm teach us? That there is a HUGE f***ing drop-off between THE largest army and the FIFTH largest army" =D"<BR><BR>XXX</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_Tr3/VSl88ZN/Sfj+LWH1Tg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:23:50 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PiBBcyBhbiBhcmNoaXRlY3QsIEkgdXNlIGEgc3BlY2lhbCBzdWJ0cmFjdGluZyBjYWxjdWxh dG9yIAo+IHdoZW4gcmV2aWV3aW5nIGNvbnRyYWN0b3JzJyAKCkFzIGEgY29udHJhY3RvciBJ IHVzZSBhIHNwZWNpYWwgY2FsY3VsYXRvciB0aGF0IG1ha2VzIGl0IGltcG9zc2libGUgZm9y IHRoZSBhcmNoaXRlY3QgdG8gZXZlciBrbm93IGlmIEkgYW0gYWRkaW5nIG9yIHN1YnRyYWN0 aW5nLiBJdCB3b3JrcyByZWFsIGdvb2Qgd2hlbiBJIHdhbnQgdG8gZXhwbGFpbiB3aHkgd2Ug bGVmdCAkNTAsMDAwIG9mZiB0aGUgbGFzdCByZXF1aXNpdGlvbiwgb3IgdGhhdCB0aGUgYnJp Y2sgd2FsbCBpcyAzIiBvZmYgaW4gdGhlIHVwcGVyIGxlZnQgY29ybmVyIG9mIHRoZSBwYXJh cGV0LiBTb3J0IG9mIGxpa2UgYSBkb3VibGUgc2lkZWQgY29pbiwgdGhvdWdoLCBvciBhIGRv dWJsZSBlZGdlZCBzd29yZC4KClNvIEkgZ28gdG8gUG9sYW5kIHRvIGEgaGlzdG8gcHJlc3Rv IGNvbmZlcmVuY2UgYW5kIHdlIGRlY2lkZSB0byBzZW5kIGFsb25nIGEgYmFnIG9mIGdpdmUt YXdheSBjcmVkaXQtY2FyZCBzaXplIGNhbGN1bGF0b3JzIHdpdGggdGhlIGNvbXBhbnkgbmFt ZSBpbXByaW50ZWQgb24gdGhlbS4gVGhlIGNhbGN1bGF0b3JzIHdlcmUgY2hlYXAgYmVjYXVz ZSA2MCUgb2YgdGhlbSB3ZXJlIGRlZmVjdGl2ZS4gSWYgeW91IGJlbnQgdGhlbSBpbiB5b3Vy IGhhbmQgdGhlIG51bWJlcnMgd291bGQgY2hhbmdlIGFsbCBieSB0aGVtc2VsdmVzIGFuZCB5 b3UgZGlkIG5vdCBldmVuIGhhdmUgdG8gdG91Y2ggYW55IGJ1dHRvbnMuIFdlIHdlbnQgdGhy b3VnaCB0aGUgd2hvbGUgYmF0Y2ggYW5kIHRocmV3IG91dCB0aGUgZGVmZWN0aXZlIG9uZXMg LS0gd2UgbmV2ZXIgZGVsaXZlciBzdWJxdWFsaXR5IHByb2R1Y3QsIHVubGlrZSBvdXIgY2Fs Y3VsYXRvciBzdXBwbGllci4gQXQgdGhlIGNvbmZlcmVuY2UgYSBncm91cCBvZiBIUyBraWRz LCBtb3N0bHkgY3V0ZSBnaXJscyB3aXRoIGJpZyBmcmllbmRseSBzbWlsZXMgZm9yIHRoZSBB bWVyaWNhbiBnb29mIHdobyB3YXMgdG9vIGJpZyBhbmQgZmF0IGFuZCBicm9rZSAxN3RoIGNl bnR1cnkgY2hhaXJzIHdoZW4gaGUgc2F0IGluIHRoZW0sIGZvdW5kIG91dCBJIHdhcyBnaXZp bmcgYXdheSBwZW5zLCB0aGF0IGRpZCB3b3JrIHJlYWwgZ29vZCwgYW5kIGNhbGN1bGF0b3Jz LiBUaGV5IGNsZWFuZWQgdXMgb3V0IG9mIGdvb2RpZXMgaW4gYWJvdXQgMTUgbWludXRlcy4g SXQgd2FzIGxpa2UgdHJpY2sgb3IgdHJlYXQuIEkgZmVsdCByZWFsbHkgcmVhbGx5IGdvb2Qg Zm9yIGEgZmV3IG1pbnV0ZXMgYmVpbmcgYWJsZSB0byBkZWxpdmVyIHRoaXMgdGVjaG5vbG9n eSB0byBhIGdyb3VwIG9mIGtpZHMgd2hvIHdlcmUgaW5jcmVkaWJseSBodW5ncnkuIE5leHQg ZGF5IEkgd2FzIGluIGNhcmRpYWMgY2FyZS4KClRoZW4gdGhlcmUgd2FzIHRoZSBraWQgb24g dGhlIGJlYWNoIGluIEFjYXB1bGNvIHdobyBiZWdnZWQgbWUgZm9yIHRoZSBicm9rZW4ga2l0 ZS4gCgpUaGlzIHdob2xlIG5hdGlvbmFsaXN0IGlkZWEgYWJvdXQgcmVqZWN0aW5nIGlsbGVn YWwgYWxpZW5zIGlzIGJ1bGxjcmFwLi4uLiB3ZSBhcmUgYWxsIGJvcm4gYWxpZW5zLgoKXVs8 ZW4gW2ZlZWxpbmcgc3VidmVyc2l2ZSBhZ2Fpbl0K -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:30:45 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Black socks In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Black socks, the longer you wear them the stronger they get." From an old camp song, maybe the little Ralphs know it as I understand the big Ralphs give them a vacation at a camp in beautiful Vermont in the summer. I don't have to go to camp as I am in beautiful Vermont all the time and there aren't any camps in NYC for me to go to. Ruth At 9:47 AM -0500 2/21/03, Ken Follett wrote: I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into the cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. My solution to matching socks is to only buy socks all of the same color and to throw out any socks that are not black. ][<en -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:49:33 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Black socks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_20.acb3c20.2b883f3d_boundary" --part1_20.acb3c20.2b883f3d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 7:19:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > "Black socks, the longer you wear them the stronger they get." Mine only > seem to develop larger holes and greater discoloration, but I like the idea > that they get stronger. From an old camp song, maybe the little Ralphs Only > half went to VT, and it looks like none will go there this summer; your > weather was too scary for Mollie The Bitch. know it as I understand the big > Ralphs > give them a vacation at a camp in beautiful Vermont in the summer. I don't > have to go to camp as I am in beautiful Vermont all the time and there > aren't any camps in NYC for me to go to. There are lots of PLACES for you > to go to in New York , and I bet you could stay a hell of a lot cheaper > down here than the Little Ralphs did up in VT. Couldn't she, guys (and > guyettes)? Ruth Ralph > --part1_20.acb3c20.2b883f3d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/21/2003 7:19:21 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">"Black socks, the longer you we= ar them the stronger they get." <B>Mine only seem to develop larger holes an= d greater discoloration, but I like the <U>idea</U> that they get stronger.<= /B> From an old camp song, maybe the little Ralphs <B>Only half went to VT,=20= and it looks like none will go there this summer; your weather was too scary= for Mollie The Bitch. </B>know it as I understand the big Ralphs<BR> give them a vacation at a camp in beautiful Vermont in the summer. I d= on't<BR> have to go to camp as I am in beautiful Vermont all the time and there<BR> aren't any camps in NYC for me to go to. <B>There are lots of PLACES for you= to go to in New York , and I bet you could stay a hell of a lot cheaper dow= n here than the Little Ralphs did up in VT. Couldn't she, guys (and gu= yettes)?</B> Ruth <B>Ralph</B><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_20.acb3c20.2b883f3d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:03:16 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: UNH Library - posted (vintage) USGS topo maps... X-To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b4.18be5b31.2b885084_boundary" --part1_b4.18be5b31.2b885084_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...usually one from the 1890's, one from the 1940's. Well organized, nice display and nav. at http://docs.unh.edu/nhtopos/nhtopos.htm Christopher Gray Office for Metropolitan History 246 West 80th Street, #8, NYC 10024 212-799-0520 fax -0542 e: [log in to unmask] --part1_b4.18be5b31.2b885084_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">...usually one from the 1890's, one from the 194= 0's. Well organized, nice display and nav.<BR> <BR> at h= ttp://docs.unh.edu/nhtopos/nhtopos.htm<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Christopher Gray<BR> Office for Metropolitan History<BR> 246 West 80th Street, #8, NYC 10024<BR> 212-799-0520 fax -0542<BR> e: [log in to unmask]</FONT></HTML> --part1_b4.18be5b31.2b885084_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 05:07:54 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Recent applications to the Landmarks Commission.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15d.1c3ac7c5.2b88a5fa_boundary" --part1_15d.1c3ac7c5.2b88a5fa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ....Department of Condition Orange 895 Park Avenue [1920's art deco apartment house with its own squash court]: Install emergency generator, $30,000 The Pierre, 2 East 61st Street: New terrace planters, ballistic shields (clear), awning and wood decking. The ballistic shields are completely hidden on all sides within evergreen plantings, $150,000; Shareholder: Mr/Mrs. John Levin Respectfully submitted, Vigilance --part1_15d.1c3ac7c5.2b88a5fa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">....Department of Condition Orange<BR> <BR> 895 Park Avenue [1920's art deco apartment house with its own squash c= ourt]: Install emergency generator, $30,000<BR> <BR> The Pierre, 2 East 61st Street: New terrace planters, ballistic shield= s (clear), awning and wood decking. The ballistic shields are complete= ly hidden on all sides within evergreen plantings, $150,000; Sharehold= er: Mr/Mrs. John Levin<BR> <BR> Respectfully submitted, Vigilance</FONT></HTML> --part1_15d.1c3ac7c5.2b88a5fa_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 05:22:19 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Shuttle break up... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_168.1b065f3a.2b88a95b_boundary" --part1_168.1b065f3a.2b88a95b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has any subscriber seen an engineering account of the likely scenario for the actual shuttle break up? Was what observer's saw as a bright glowing trail, was that typical for reentry, or was that the shuttle burning up? Did the shuttle start tumbling (after it lost aerodynamic stability) and then broke apart right away under the stress, or did it remain fundamentally intact and "burn up"? If the first, why was there such a remarkable coherences seen in the glowing trail as photographed? If the second, why aren't the materials recovered more charred, even melted? Is the pattern of debris consistent with an instant, or gradual breakup, given that it fell from 40 miles? Are there radar plottings that document the deceleration of the "main" debris, and what does that tell us? Aviation Week seems to be silent. ----Christopher --part1_168.1b065f3a.2b88a95b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Has any subscriber seen an engineering account o= f the likely scenario for the actual shuttle break up? Was what=20= observer's saw as a bright glowing trail, was that typical for reentry, or w= as that the shuttle burning up? Did the shuttle start tumbling (after=20= it lost aerodynamic stability) and then broke apart right away under the str= ess, or did it remain fundamentally intact and "burn up"? If the= first, why was there such a remarkable coherences seen in the glowing trail= as photographed? If the second, why aren't the materials recovered mo= re charred, even melted? Is the pattern of debris consiste= nt with an instant, or gradual breakup, given that it fell from 40 miles?&nb= sp; Are there radar plottings that document the deceleration of the "main" d= ebris, and what does that tell us? Aviation Week seems to be sil= ent. ----Christopher </FONT></HTML> --part1_168.1b065f3a.2b88a95b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:04:39 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: UNH Library - posted (vintage) USGS topo maps... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sharpshooter: Thankx... I'm always looking for topo maps and this is a good collection. The nice thing about topos is that the hard rock geology rarely changes. ][<en Topo Dreams Old fingers wrinkled soft slide over creases, faded folds in morning south light of breakfast nook. Where feet and bones no longer travel weary, eye searches circuitry of roads. Stumbles over gray-haired swampland blue image of river, stream, small lakes where a love was resealed. Avenues, interstate route numbers southward, ageless, an attraction to the place, its reflection in name. Of what was and where it moved over to blending of triangles of field, forest -- where we are is a distant place yearning will never satisfy to find. Eroded, disfigured, revamped, renamed the earth has erased your isolate trail. Now there are only phantom landmarks passed down in fading glimpse. Your grandchildren will never know magenta light of morning beneath that pine, scorching of that sun lost forever in peach blossom of a wild rose. xxx The poem is an amalgam of several factors both personal and objective. It was composed at the emotional peak of a series of commuter flights over southwest Indiana at about 3000 feet. At the time the author was reading an historical pamphlet about George Rogers Clark, whose monument in Vincennes the author was working on. It seems that an activity of the scouts in southwest Indiana is to periodically go out and search the winter march of Mr. Clark and his brave men. The only real difficulty is that referenced landmarks to the expedition have either vanished or bodily moved. There is no consensus as to the actual historic route to the expedition as it lies on the present earth. This local endeavor to trace the bodily motions of ancestors is echoed in the search for the Ulysses of Homer. Thus the poem renders some semblance of neoclassic propriety in subject. It is also echoed in the personal search to understand, empathize and relive the route of a favored ancestor. In this case the surface of the poem is directly about the authors maternal grandfather. Early in his life the grandfather emigrated to Central New York State from Iowa. Previously the family had arrived as Dutch Huguenots some time prior to the revolution and then migrated northward on the Hudson, many of them buried along the way, eventually landing in Iowa as sheep farmers. Grandfather Rose was obsessed with map collecting through his whole life. A never attained goal of his was to visit all of the United States. On another level the simple poem is a detailed reworking of a decidedly childish patchwork quilt motif. A comment upon sign, symbol and the frailty of human generation forcibly squashed in between. The reader may wonder how all of this weight came to reside upon such a short and simple set of lines. It is an opinion of the author that the garbage polemic of reality can well exist outside of the poetic expression. The poem as objective artifact resides in itself such as a fossil of bone or shard of Native American pottery. In this the poem represents a fragment of the imaginary landscape of our dreams. Though this fragment laden attitude may be detrimental to the full appreciation of the poetic artifact, it represents the best quality of contemporary poetry. The common cultural landmarks of poetry have either moved or vanished. Where common understanding would once have resided as a natural outcome of speech, we have this individual need to paraphrase the real in a journalistic prose. First published in The American Geographical Society’s FOCUS. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:13:16 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_13.1881526e.2b88c35c_boundary" --part1_13.1881526e.2b88c35c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 6:25:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: What the heck is this, a secret Pinhead communication? 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The adventures of my friends Eve & Festus. This is the last news that I have of them. Early Heaven’s Gate. The Ithaca Journal, October 30, 1975, By Gail Dickinson Two former Ithacans have joined a group of people from Oregon who say they are preparing to be taken to another level beyond humans by a spaceship. The whereabouts of the two is not known, but recent letters to their families indicate they are committed to the group and its philosophy. On Sept. 18, Michael Fiester, 24, and Eve Ujhelyi, 21. who left Ithaca in late 1973 for Oregon, joined the followers of a couple who claim to be "sent from another level above that of human." Families of the two have received letters from both which tell of their belief in the couple and in their claims that persons who follow them. will be "reborn." The disappearance of about 20 Oregon residents also with an undetermined number of Californians has been in the national news in recent weeks. There have been reports of people giving away children and property before leaving to join the group. Dan Staggs, 43, a person with whom the two Ithacans were living in Springfield, Ore., also has joined the group. Staggs gave away his house before leaving, according to Chris Carlson, who now lives in the home. Fiester's mother, Mrs. John Fiester of Trumansburg Road, Ithaca, said she has written to President Ford and will write Rep. Matthew McHugh (D Ithaca) requesting help in locating her son. She, said she and. her husband were in Florida when her son left Oregon with the group. When they returned here last week, there were two letters from their son, one written around Sept. 18 before he left and mailed later by a friend, and another, postmarked Enid, Okla., and dated Oct. 12. Both letters were shown to The Journal by Mrs. Fiester. In the first letter, Michael, known by friends to Ithaca as "Festus," said he was going on a "quest for the truth and my real self." He said he felt "directed to do it" and that it was his own will. In the second letter, he explained that "in essence we are all endeavoring to be re united with our father creator." He said he was undergoing "the preparations necessary for any human to undergo in order to attain that next level." In both of the letter. Fiester stressed he is doing this of his own free will and denied that "hypnosis, death, murder. fraud, etc.,". is involved.' Eve Ujhelyi's father, who lives in Oregon, said in a telephone interview he has not heard from his daughter. Her sister, Gabriel, who lives in Atlanta, told The Journal she has received two communications. One, mailed from Oregon, was written before the pair left with the group, and the second, dated Oct. 7, was mailed from Yorkville, Ill. In both letters, Ms. Ujhelyi asked her sister not to worry. In one, she said that she had "gone to see the Wizard and catch a spaceship." It is not known if Ms. Ujhelyi and Fiester are still together. They told Ms. Carlson before they left that they expected to be separated, and in one of the letters to her sister, Ms. Ujhelyi said that "Festus is 'gone,' too." Staggs is apparently no longer with the group, Ms. Carlson said. A recent letter, without postmark or date, has been received from him saying that he had "disassociated" himself from any group. Ms. Carlson said that the three were very optimistic before they left. She stressed that they were "very capable people ... who knew what they were doing." She said she now regrets not having gone to the Oregon meetings to join the group. "They have been pretty much exposed to the world," she said. "They knew what was real and what wasn't." She said she is not worried about the trio because "these people know when to bail out " She said she would like to give the pair, "a lot of positive encouragement." Fiester, Ms. Ujhelyi and Staggs attended three meetings over a two week period before they left on Sept. 18, Ms. Carlson said. She felt that in leaving, and limiting communication, the three were "demanding privacy to do what they want to do with their lives." Before they left, Ms. Carlson said, they were upset at the criticism by their friends, who thought the whole thing was a hoax. The three people were "totally committed," she said, "and were hoping that their friends would understand." Reaction from people who knew Ms. Ujhelyi and Fiester in Ithaca was one of surprise at the news. Friends described them as "intelligent and rational" people whom they would not expect to be "taken in" easily. Ms. Ujhelyi's family was not religious, according to her sister Gabriel. Fiester, according to his mother, was raised to be religious, although he had not practiced any religion for several years. Mrs. Fiester said her son may be "trying to find something." She also said that she believed her son might be "brainwashed." Besides the letters to Ford and McHugh, Mr. Fiester has gone to see District Attorney Joseph Joch, but Joch was unavailable this morning for comment. Literature from the group, called by some the "Human Individual Metamorphosis" society, claims the group is not a religious, spiritual or philosophical organization. It claims it is "reality." Fiester said in one letter that news accounts of the group are "faulty." The two leaders of the group will be assassinated soon, the literature says, and will return after three days, when their followers will leave in a "space ship." The two leaders, identified by police as Marshall Herff Applewhite, 43, and Bonnie Lee Trousdale Nettles, 48, both have criminal records. Applewhite spent four months in jail in St. Louis for car theft, and Miss Nettles was charged in Houston on credit card abuse. No record of the disposition of her case exists. The whereabouts of the almost 90 disciples supposed to be with the couple is not known. Two lecturers are scheduled to hold a meeting tonight in Oakland , Calif., according to the Portland Oregonian newspaper. The meeting place, the Upstairs Art Association, said it knew nothing about the meeting, according to the Oregonian. The association said a Halloween benefit is planned there tonight. http://www.salon.com/march97/news/news970331.html http://gaytoday.badpuppy.com/garchive/events/03317eva.htm XXX ][<en -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 06:45:52 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1038759333 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2-1038759333 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed You have to pay Ralph your dues if you want to receive the secret decoder ring. (don't forget the finders fee Ralph. I'll be at the mail box.) -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 06:13 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > In a message dated 2/21/2003 6:25:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > What the heck is this, a secret Pinhead communication? > > Steve > > PiBBcyBhbiBhcmNoaXRlY3QsIEkgdXNlIGEgc3BlY2lhbCBzdWJ0cmFjdGluZyBjYWxjdWx > h > dG9yIAo+IHdoZW4gcmV2aWV3aW5nIGNvbnRyYWN0b3JzJyAKCkFzIGEgY29udHJhY3RvciB > J > IHVzZSBhIHNwZWNpYWwgY2FsY3VsYXRvciB0aGF0IG1ha2VzIGl0IGltcG9zc2libGUgZm9 > y > IHRoZSBhcmNoaXRlY3QgdG8gZXZlciBrbm93IGlmIEkgYW0gYWRkaW5nIG9yIHN1YnRyYWN > 0 > aW5nLiBJdCB3b3JrcyByZWFsIGdvb2Qgd2hlbiBJIHdhbnQgdG8gZXhwbGFpbiB3aHkgd2U > g > bGVmdCAkNTAsMDAwIG9mZiB0aGUgbGFzdCByZXF1aXNpdGlvbiwgb3IgdGhhdCB0aGUgYnJ > p > Y2sgd2FsbCBpcyAzIiBvZmYgaW4gdGhlIHVwcGVyIGxlZnQgY29ybmVyIG9mIHRoZSBwYXJ > h > cGV0LiBTb3J0IG9mIGxpa2UgYSBkb3VibGUgc2lkZWQgY29pbiwgdGhvdWdoLCBvciBhIGR > v > dWJsZSBlZGdlZCBzd29yZC4KClNvIEkgZ28gdG8gUG9sYW5kIHRvIGEgaGlzdG8gcHJlc3R > v > IGNvbmZlcmVuY2UgYW5kIHdlIGRlY2lkZSB0byBzZW5kIGFsb25nIGEgYmFnIG9mIGdpdmU > t > YXdheSBjcmVkaXQtY2FyZCBzaXplIGNhbGN1bGF0b3JzIHdpdGggdGhlIGNvbXBhbnkgbmF > t > ZSBpbXByaW50ZWQgb24gdGhlbS4gVGhlIGNhbGN1bGF0b3JzIHdlcmUgY2hlYXAgYmVjYXV > z > ZSA2MCUgb2YgdGhlbSB3ZXJlIGRlZmVjdGl2ZS4gSWYgeW91IGJlbnQgdGhlbSBpbiB5b3V > y > IGhhbmQgdGhlIG51bWJlcnMgd291bGQgY2hhbmdlIGFsbCBieSB0aGVtc2VsdmVzIGFuZCB > 5 > b3UgZGlkIG5vdCBldmVuIGhhdmUgdG8gdG91Y2ggYW55IGJ1dHRvbnMuIFdlIHdlbnQgdGh > y > b3VnaCB0aGUgd2hvbGUgYmF0Y2ggYW5kIHRocmV3IG91dCB0aGUgZGVmZWN0aXZlIG9uZXM > g > LS0gd2UgbmV2ZXIgZGVsaXZlciBzdWJxdWFsaXR5IHByb2R1Y3QsIHVubGlrZSBvdXIgY2F > s > Y3VsYXRvciBzdXBwbGllci4gQXQgdGhlIGNvbmZlcmVuY2UgYSBncm91cCBvZiBIUyBraWR > z > LCBtb3N0bHkgY3V0ZSBnaXJscyB3aXRoIGJpZyBmcmllbmRseSBzbWlsZXMgZm9yIHRoZSB > B > bWVyaWNhbiBnb29mIHdobyB3YXMgdG9vIGJpZyBhbmQgZmF0IGFuZCBicm9rZSAxN3RoIGN > l > bnR1cnkgY2hhaXJzIHdoZW4gaGUgc2F0IGluIHRoZW0sIGZvdW5kIG91dCBJIHdhcyBnaXZ > p > bmcgYXdheSBwZW5zLCB0aGF0IGRpZCB3b3JrIHJlYWwgZ29vZCwgYW5kIGNhbGN1bGF0b3J > z > LiBUaGV5IGNsZWFuZWQgdXMgb3V0IG9mIGdvb2RpZXMgaW4gYWJvdXQgMTUgbWludXRlcy4 > g > SXQgd2FzIGxpa2UgdHJpY2sgb3IgdHJlYXQuIEkgZmVsdCByZWFsbHkgcmVhbGx5IGdvb2Q > g > Zm9yIGEgZmV3IG1pbnV0ZXMgYmVpbmcgYWJsZSB0byBkZWxpdmVyIHRoaXMgdGVjaG5vbG9 > n > eSB0byBhIGdyb3VwIG9mIGtpZHMgd2hvIHdlcmUgaW5jcmVkaWJseSBodW5ncnkuIE5leHQ > g > ZGF5IEkgd2FzIGluIGNhcmRpYWMgY2FyZS4KClRoZW4gdGhlcmUgd2FzIHRoZSBraWQgb24 > g > dGhlIGJlYWNoIGluIEFjYXB1bGNvIHdobyBiZWdnZWQgbWUgZm9yIHRoZSBicm9rZW4ga2l > 0 > ZS4gCgpUaGlzIHdob2xlIG5hdGlvbmFsaXN0IGlkZWEgYWJvdXQgcmVqZWN0aW5nIGlsbGV > n > YWwgYWxpZW5zIGlzIGJ1bGxjcmFwLi4uLiB3ZSBhcmUgYWxsIGJvcm4gYWxpZW5zLgoKXVs > 8 > ZW4gW2ZlZWxpbmcgc3VidmVyc2l2ZSBhZ2Fpbl0K > > > --Apple-Mail-2-1038759333 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII You have to pay Ralph your dues if you want to receive the secret decoder ring. (don't forget the finders fee Ralph. I'll be at the mail box.) -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 06:13 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Comic Sans MS</param>In a message dated 2/21/2003 6:25:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param>What the heck is this, a secret Pinhead communication? 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I have a potential client who is involved with a church project. The church dates back to 1769. They have had members of the church over the years repoint the lower sections of the building. Man what a fuster cluck. Anyway I have recommended that they need to seriously look at installing gutters along the building to stop future deterioration of the mortar and also to stop raising dampness which I think is contributing to their lower interior plaster problems. Of course the latex paint that the congregation continues to apply over the plaster to hide the water stains and deteriorating plaster does not help either. What do you think would be compatible guttering? Will copper or wood work? Steve --part1_141.b44edca.2b88cd27_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Dear fellow Pinheads:<BR> <BR> This includes Ralph by the way. I have a potential client who is involved wi= th a church project. The church dates back to 1769. They have had members of= the church over the years repoint the lower sections of the building. Man w= hat a fuster cluck. Anyway I have recommended that they need to seriously lo= ok at installing gutters along the building to stop future deterioration of=20= the mortar and also to stop raising dampness which I think is contributing t= o their lower interior plaster problems. Of course the latex paint that the=20= congregation continues to apply over the plaster to hide the water stains an= d deteriorating plaster does not help either. What do you think would be com= patible guttering? Will copper or wood work?<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_141.b44edca.2b88cd27_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:22:12 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-1040939710 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-4-1040939710 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed What is the roof material; what condition are the soffits and facia in; what is the grading like around the building; where will you place the water instead of against the foundation; is the plaster damage below grade; is there adequate ventilation; does the pointing or repointing extend below grade? -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 06:55 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > Dear fellow Pinheads: > > This includes Ralph by the way. I have a potential client who is > involved with a church project. The church dates back to 1769. They > have had members of the church over the years repoint the lower > sections of the building. Man what a fuster cluck. Anyway I have > recommended that they need to seriously look at installing gutters > along the building to stop future deterioration of the mortar and also > to stop raising dampness which I think is contributing to their lower > interior plaster problems. Of course the latex paint that the > congregation continues to apply over the plaster to hide the water > stains and deteriorating plaster does not help either. What do you > think would be compatible guttering? Will copper or wood work? > > Steve > --Apple-Mail-4-1040939710 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII What is the roof material; what condition are the soffits and facia in; what is the grading like around the building; where will you place the water instead of against the foundation; is the plaster damage below grade; is there adequate ventilation; does the pointing or repointing extend below grade? -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 06:55 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Comic Sans MS</param>Dear fellow Pinheads: This includes Ralph by the way. I have a potential client who is involved with a church project. The church dates back to 1769. They have had members of the church over the years repoint the lower sections of the building. Man what a fuster cluck. Anyway I have recommended that they need to seriously look at installing gutters along the building to stop future deterioration of the mortar and also to stop raising dampness which I think is contributing to their lower interior plaster problems. Of course the latex paint that the congregation continues to apply over the plaster to hide the water stains and deteriorating plaster does not help either. What do you think would be compatible guttering? Will copper or wood work? Steve</fontfamily> </excerpt> --Apple-Mail-4-1040939710-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 08:35:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11f.1e8fdeea.2b88d6b4_boundary" --part1_11f.1e8fdeea.2b88d6b4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 7:14:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > What the heck is this, a secret Pinhead communication? > > Steve > > You haven't been paying attention to Sec'y Ridge. Osama's orders are in there, plain as day. Or maybe Jefferson Davis'. Ralph --part1_11f.1e8fdeea.2b88d6b4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 7:14:01 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE= style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0p= x; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What the heck is this, a secret Pinhead communication?= <BR> <BR> Steve</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZ= E=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> You haven't been paying attention to Sec'y Ridge. Osama's orders are i= n there, plain as day. Or maybe Jefferson Davis'.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_11f.1e8fdeea.2b88d6b4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 08:36:05 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Leland Torrence <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CT historical maps In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QLlb1uLN+ZdhPz/D23uZCQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_QLlb1uLN+ZdhPz/D23uZCQ) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_F++9F0c24FK2ojjdMdDlJQ)" --Boundary_(ID_F++9F0c24FK2ojjdMdDlJQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello Christopher, Thanks for the topo site. I attach a cool site for CT. Check the historical maps collection. Great resolution. Best, Leland -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Met History Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:03 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: UNH Library - posted (vintage) USGS topo maps... ...usually one from the 1890's, one from the 1940's. Well organized, nice display and nav. at http://docs.unh.edu/nhtopos/nhtopos.htm Christopher Gray Office for Metropolitan History 246 West 80th Street, #8, NYC 10024 212-799-0520 fax -0542 e: [log in to unmask] --Boundary_(ID_F++9F0c24FK2ojjdMdDlJQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=846523313-22022003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Hello Christopher,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=846523313-22022003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks for the topo site. I attach a cool site for CT. Check the historical maps collection. Great resolution.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=846523313-22022003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=846523313-22022003><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Leland</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Met History<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 11:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> UNH Library - posted (vintage) USGS topo maps...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face="Times New Roman" size=2 FAMILY="SERIF">...usually one from the 1890's, one from the 1940's. Well organized, nice display and nav.<BR><BR>at http://docs.unh.edu/nhtopos/nhtopos.htm<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Christopher Gray<BR>Office for Metropolitan History<BR>246 West 80th Street, #8, NYC 10024<BR>212-799-0520 fax -0542<BR>e: [log in to unmask]</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_F++9F0c24FK2ojjdMdDlJQ)-- --Boundary_(ID_QLlb1uLN+ZdhPz/D23uZCQ) Content-type: text/html; name="magic.lib.uconn[1].html" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename="magic.lib.uconn[1].html" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Map And Geographic Information Center</TITLE> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="Map And Geographic Information Center, Patrick McGlamery, John Gwinnell"> <META NAME="KEYWORDS" CONTENT="Map And Geographic Information Center,MAGIC,magic,map and geographic information center,connecticut map,map of 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The motherboard was having problems providing power. The CPU fan stopped and we pronounced AlphaMAGIC dead. John Gwinnell, the MAGIC systems administrator, worked over the weekend and has ported all the data (over 100 Gigabytes on a 10 Megabit wire) over to another, albeit older, working system. So, while things are getting back to normal, it will take some time to assure that ALL is working again. Remember, MAGIC is a library, and things happen to libraries, like floods, earthquakes, leaky roofs and silverfish infestations.<BR> <P> Now the real work of getting another server for MAGIC is at hand. These are tight fiscal times, as you all know. Fortunately "Friends of MAGIC" have come forward. But if you too would like to be a Friend of MAGIC and donate toward a new, robust, shiny, speedy server, please let me, <A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Patrick McGlamery</A> know.<BR> <P> Also, please feel free to send me any broken links, etc. We might know of them or not. And please, be patient... it's really just John fixing it all... in addition to managing the University's library system. <P> <HR SIZE=0> <FONT COLOR=#FF0000 FACE='Verdana, Helvetica, Arial' SIZE=1> Special Thanks to: The Connecticut Department of Environmental Protection, The Connecticut Department of Transportation, and the National Resource Conservation Service </TD></TR> </TABLE> </TD> </TR> </TABLE> </BODY> </HTML> --Boundary_(ID_QLlb1uLN+ZdhPz/D23uZCQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 08:39:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_195.15f8b1c6.2b88d796_boundary" --part1_195.15f8b1c6.2b88d796_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Copper is good, and more durable. But copper gutters won't do anything for rising damp, and if the walls are seriously wet, it will take months (if not years) for them to dry out enough to take paint. Ralph --part1_195.15f8b1c6.2b88d796_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Copper is good, and more durable. But copper gut= ters won't do anything for rising damp, and if the walls are seriously wet,=20= it will take months (if not years) for them to dry out enough to take paint.= <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_195.15f8b1c6.2b88d796_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 08:46:11 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_146.b4983b3.2b88d923_boundary" --part1_146.b4983b3.2b88d923_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the roof material Asphalt shingles. It would be nice to try and figure out what was there originally. what condition are the soffits and facia in Some need replacing. what is the grading like around the building The front and right side seems to be fairly level, there is a building (social hall) on the right side. The left side slopes away and the rear gradually slopes away fairly steeply (wooded area to the rear). where will you place the water instead of against the foundation I don't know. What should they consider? is the plaster damage below grade No, above grade. is there adequate ventilation Did not check does the pointing or repointing extend below grade No. --part1_146.b4983b3.2b88d923_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">What is the roof material </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"= #000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"> Asphalt shingles. It would be=20= nice to try and figure out what was there originally.<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> what condition are the soffits and facia in </FONT><FONT =20= COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCR= IPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Some need replacing.<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">what is the grading like aro= und the building </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" sty= le=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sa= ns MS" LANG=3D"0">The front and right side seems to be fairly level, there i= s a building (social hall) on the right side. The left side slopes away and=20= the rear gradually slopes away fairly steeply (wooded area to the rear).<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">where will you place the wat= er instead of against the foundation </FONT><FONT C= OLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRI= PT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I don't know. What should they conside= r?<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> is the plaster damage below grade &= nbsp; </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SI= ZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">No, above grade.<= BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">is there adequate ventilatio= n </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"=20= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic= Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Did not check<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">does the pointing or repoint= ing extend below grade </FON= T><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMI= LY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">No.</FONT></HTML> --part1_146.b4983b3.2b88d923_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 08:50:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: UNH Library - posted (vintage) USGS topo maps... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_41.2b6f67d2.2b88da38_boundary" --part1_41.2b6f67d2.2b88da38_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/03 7:05:27 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > . It is an opinion of the author that the garbage polemic of reality can > well exist outside of the poetic expression. Ken, you are the only Vice-President of anything that writes like this since...since...Truman? --part1_41.2b6f67d2.2b88da38_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/03 7:05:27 AM, ARWNY@AOL= .COM writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. It is an opinion of the autho= r that the garbage polemic of reality can well exist outside of the poetic e= xpression. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ken, you are the only Vice-President of anything that writes like this since= ...since...Truman?</FONT></HTML> --part1_41.2b6f67d2.2b88da38_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:02:12 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2DA51.165CC5A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2DA51.165CC5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Naw, all us commie, hippy, faggots wear sandles. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ralph Walter=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: Re: BP On? In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about stuff...but socks=20 ain't one of those things. I used to have a mild concern about the=20 black socks matching, but that problem was simplified when I started = working from home. Most days I just grab a clean pair of from the = top.=20 I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find=20 matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into = the=20 cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. But finding my spouse is much more interesting. Hell, I still shave = dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and catz! John,=20 I guess we just have different priorities. I haven't shaved in 30 = years, but hate the notion of mismatched socks. Then again, it appears = that we are in complete agreement on the importance of clean socks on a = daily basis. Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks? Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2DA51.165CC5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Naw, all us commie, hippy, faggots wear = sandles.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph = Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 20, = 2003 10:11=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: BP On?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:53:57 PM Eastern = Standard=20 Time, <A = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>=20 writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about = stuff...but=20 socks <BR>ain't one of those things. I used to have a mild = concern=20 about the <BR>black socks matching, but that problem was simplified = when I=20 started <BR>working from home. Most days I just grab a clean = pair of=20 from the top. <BR>I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the = effort=20 to find <BR>matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have = to go=20 "into the <BR>cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to = impress.<BR><BR>But=20 finding my spouse is much more interesting. Hell, I still = shave=20 <BR>dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and = catz!<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>John,=20 <BR><BR>I guess we just have different priorities. I haven't = shaved in=20 30 years, but hate the notion of mismatched socks. Then again, = it=20 appears that we are in complete agreement on the importance of clean = socks on=20 a daily basis.<BR><BR>Any of you pervs out there got any objection to = clean=20 socks?<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2DA51.165CC5A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:05:07 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2DA51.7EF33770" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2DA51.7EF33770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The triple X remindes me that yesterday was the anniversary of Malcolm's = assassination. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gabriel Orgrease=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: Permitting Saddam "But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border = disagreement with Kuwait." US Ambassador April Glaspie to Saddam Hussein = prior to the aggression of Iraq against Kuwait, as quoted from a = transcript supplied by Iraq to the New York Times. It is reported that = later Glaspie told a reporter to the effect that it had never been = considered that Saddam would take all of Kuwait. A journalist questioned = then as to what amount of Kuwait the Bush administration did expect = Saddam to take as a result of the implication that America took no = interest in the Iraq-Kuwait border conflict. No answer. If any of this = is true I have no idea. It may have been more a case of Glaspie not = being quite up to the task and her misunderstanding the depth of the = intentions behind Saddam's words. Regardless, the incident is often = cited as the US having given Saddam permission to invade and annex = Kuwait. XXX ][<en ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2DA51.7EF33770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE></TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The triple X remindes me that yesterday = was the=20 anniversary of Malcolm's assassination.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Gabriel=20 Orgrease</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 = 12:05=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Permitting = Saddam</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times, serif" = color=3D#330033>"But=20 we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border = disagreement=20 with Kuwait." </FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times, serif">US = Ambassador=20 April Glaspie to Saddam Hussein</FONT> prior to the aggression of Iraq = against=20 Kuwait, as quoted from a transcript supplied by Iraq to the New York = Times. It=20 is reported that later Glaspie told a reporter to the effect that it = had never=20 been considered that Saddam would take <U>all </U>of Kuwait. A = journalist=20 questioned then as to what amount of Kuwait the Bush administration = did expect=20 Saddam to take as a result of the implication that America took no = interest in=20 the Iraq-Kuwait border conflict. No answer. If any of this is true I = have no=20 idea. It may have been more a case of Glaspie not being quite up to = the task=20 and her misunderstanding the depth of the intentions behind Saddam's = words.=20 Regardless, the incident is often cited as the US having given Saddam=20 permission to invade and annex=20 Kuwait.<BR><BR>XXX<BR>][<en<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2DA51.7EF33770-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:07:34 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C2DA51.D6B55790" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C2DA51.D6B55790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, the problem with "evidence" is, who's collecting it. The one's = doing the irregularities are the authorities charged with investigation. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution Jim, Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and = if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be charged. = Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my right to = due process). Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, = California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them = politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany of = your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the cost = savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the = wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in = the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 = acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of = representatives...enough is enough! Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The = popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is going = on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that cause = problems. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I = vote in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case = Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged = from the voting reg six months before the election and on election day = in many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus = all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that just = this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern = Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole sout. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much = to my shame. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby = electing Dubya. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C2DA51.D6B55790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John, the problem with "evidence" is, = who's=20 collecting it. The one's doing the irregularities are the authorities = charged=20 with investigation.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John=20 Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 = 8:37=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Jim,<BR><BR>Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities = should=20 be investigated and if the evidence supports the charge, the = perpetrators=20 should be charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to = protect=20 my right to due process).<BR><BR>Popular vote? That's a great idea. If = you are=20 from Texas, Florida, California or New York. No problem for you, = you'll have=20 all them politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook = and crany=20 of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the = cost=20 savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the = wilderness.=20 Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in the = cities would=20 like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 acre plots = would be=20 competitive again! You've got the house of representatives...enough is = enough!<BR><BR>Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where = it=20 happens. The popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to = know what=20 is going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that = cause=20 problems.<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR><BR>On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 = AM, Jim=20 Hicks wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>It would help if you = were=20 able to add better than I can spell. I vote in NY and the State was = carried=20 by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost = in Fla=20 where blacks were purged from the voting reg six months before the = election=20 and on election day in many black counties there were road blocks = leading to=20 the polls (plus all of the other voting eregularities which the = supreams=20 said that just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case = the=20 "Southern Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the = grand ole=20 sout.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>jh<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>-----=20 Original Message -----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>Ralph = Walter<?/color></U><BR><B>To:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U><BR>= <B>Sent:</B>=20 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq = response=20 & Constitution<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>In a = message=20 dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U>=20 writes:<BR><BR>Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a = reg Dummy=20 much to my shame.<BR><BR><BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>What = you=20 SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing=20 = Dubya.<BR><BR>Ralph<?/color><?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE= ></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C2DA51.D6B55790-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:11:44 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003C_01C2DA52.6B922AF0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C2DA52.6B922AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Popular vote etc. I think that is why there is a senate with two reps = from each state no matter how large or small the population. I think the main problem is are we living in a democracy or a = capitolacracy? It seems to me democracy =3D capitol in this country and the more = capitol the more democracy. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution Jim, Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and = if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be charged. = Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my right to = due process). Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, = California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them = politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany of = your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the cost = savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the = wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in = the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 = acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of = representatives...enough is enough! Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The = popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is going = on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that cause = problems. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I = vote in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case = Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged = from the voting reg six months before the election and on election day = in many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus = all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that just = this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern = Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole sout. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much = to my shame. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby = electing Dubya. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C2DA52.6B922AF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Popular vote etc. I think that is why = there is a=20 senate with two reps from each state no matter how large or small the=20 population.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think the main problem is are we = living in a=20 democracy or a capitolacracy?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It seems to me democracy =3D capitol in = this country=20 and the more capitol the more democracy.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John=20 Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 = 8:37=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Jim,<BR><BR>Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities = should=20 be investigated and if the evidence supports the charge, the = perpetrators=20 should be charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to = protect=20 my right to due process).<BR><BR>Popular vote? That's a great idea. If = you are=20 from Texas, Florida, California or New York. No problem for you, = you'll have=20 all them politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook = and crany=20 of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the = cost=20 savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the = wilderness.=20 Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in the = cities would=20 like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 acre plots = would be=20 competitive again! You've got the house of representatives...enough is = enough!<BR><BR>Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where = it=20 happens. The popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to = know what=20 is going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that = cause=20 problems.<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR><BR>On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 = AM, Jim=20 Hicks wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>It would help if you = were=20 able to add better than I can spell. I vote in NY and the State was = carried=20 by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost = in Fla=20 where blacks were purged from the voting reg six months before the = election=20 and on election day in many black counties there were road blocks = leading to=20 the polls (plus all of the other voting eregularities which the = supreams=20 said that just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case = the=20 "Southern Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the = grand ole=20 sout.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>jh<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>-----=20 Original Message -----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>Ralph = Walter<?/color></U><BR><B>To:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U><BR>= <B>Sent:</B>=20 Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq = response=20 & Constitution<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>In a = message=20 dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U>=20 writes:<BR><BR>Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a = reg Dummy=20 much to my shame.<BR><BR><BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>What = you=20 SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing=20 = Dubya.<BR><BR>Ralph<?/color><?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE= ></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C2DA52.6B922AF0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:13:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e8.2977314.2b88df9c_boundary" --part1_1e8.2977314.2b88df9c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:40:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Copper is good, and more durable. But copper gutters won't do anything for > rising damp, and if the walls are seriously wet, it will take months (if > not years) for them to dry out enough to take paint. > I was trying to come up with something to try and get as much water away from the building as possible. They currently have only one section of gutter on the back side to keep roof run off from hitting their HVAC units. Basically the entire lower section (2' to 4') has been or needs to be repointed. I associated this with roof water run off. It is possible that the plaster deterioration maybe from window sill leaks. They are currently looking for folks to repair some of the window woodwork and this scares the hell out of me considering the idiot craftsmen in this city. Heck I can't even afford them the distinction of craftsmen. I don't know what to call them. The walls are 21" or 23" thick. It all depends on who you ask. I did not see any evidence of moisture in the plaster yesterday except for one small area. We are expecting some severe weather today so maybe tomorrow I will take a look to see if I can find some evidence of what is going on. I think the building at one time was lime washed and I think was painted later. The congregation had someone remove the paint(?) and in doing so used steam pressure washer which in turn destroyed the fire skin on the soft brick. There should be a death penalty given when morons like this are allowed to destroy a structure like this. I think the punishment should be comparable to the crime. In this case it would skin removal with high pressure steam pressure washer. Steve --part1_1e8.2977314.2b88df9c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:40:11 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Copper is good, and more durable. But copper gutters=20= won't do anything for rising damp, and if the walls are seriously wet, it wi= ll take months (if not years) for them to dry out enough to take paint.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I was trying to come up with something to try and get as much water away fro= m the building as possible. They currently have only one section of gutter o= n the back side to keep roof run off from hitting their HVAC units. Basicall= y the entire lower section (2' to 4') has been or needs to be repointed. I a= ssociated this with roof water run off. It is possible that the plaster dete= rioration maybe from window sill leaks. They are currently looking for folks= to repair some of the window woodwork and this scares the hell out of me co= nsidering the idiot craftsmen in this city. Heck I can't even afford them th= e distinction of craftsmen. I don't know what to call them. The walls are 21= " or 23" thick. It all depends on who you ask. I did not see any evidence of= moisture in the plaster yesterday except for one small area. We are expecti= ng some severe weather today so maybe tomorrow I will take a look to see if=20= I can find some evidence of what is going on. I think the building at one ti= me was lime washed and I think was painted later. The congregation had someo= ne remove the paint(?) and in doing so used steam pressure washer which in t= urn destroyed the fire skin on the soft brick. There should be a death penal= ty given when morons like this are allowed to destroy a structure like this.= I think the punishment should be comparable to the crime. In this case it w= ould skin removal with high pressure steam pressure washer.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e8.2977314.2b88df9c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:17:19 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01C2DA53.333A6180" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C2DA53.333A6180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Go back further in the hist. of SH. Who gave him the green light to go = to war with Iran? Does there need to be a "green light" for there to be = a gereral understanding that the largest (capitol, military) country in = the world stands behind a series of activities with money, weapons, = intel etc. for this general understanding to take root. In the world of = the enemy of my enemy is my friend some things are taken for granted. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:23 AM Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam I don't see where this gave the nice Mr. Hussein a green light to take = anything. =20 The point is that it probably did not give a green light, then again = it did not give a red light, and the relevance is the interpretation = that such wobbly and inept diplomacy is a weakness to be exploited. In = the same conversation Saddam expressed that the US was too weak to = stomach 10,000 body bags. An Iraq official later admitted that they knew = full well that the US would not be happy. Is it good for the US to have = a global reputation as a blow-hard and diplomatic woosie? Last thing I = want is kids that I know in the military today not coming home. Seems to = me I read recently that Teddy Roosevelt was a woosie blow-hard. ][<en ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C2DA53.333A6180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Go back further in the hist. of SH. Who = gave him=20 the green light to go to war with Iran? Does there need to be a "green = light"=20 for there to be a gereral understanding that the largest (capitol, = military)=20 country in the world stands behind a series of activities with money, = weapons,=20 intel etc. for this general understanding to take root. In the=20 world of the enemy of my enemy is my friend some things = are=20 taken for granted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 = 9:23=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Permitting = Saddam</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">I don't see where this gave the nice Mr. Hussein = a green=20 light to take anything. =20 <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>The point is that it probably did not give a = green=20 light, then again it did not give a red light, and the relevance is = the=20 interpretation that such wobbly and inept diplomacy is a weakness to = be=20 exploited. In the same conversation Saddam expressed that the US was = too weak=20 to stomach 10,000 body bags. An Iraq official later admitted that they = knew=20 full well that the US would not be happy. Is it good for the US to = have a=20 global reputation as a blow-hard and diplomatic woosie? Last thing I = want is=20 kids that I know in the military today not coming home. Seems to me I = read=20 recently that Teddy Roosevelt was a woosie = blow-hard.<BR><BR>][<en</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C2DA53.333A6180-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:18:32 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Large Armies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01C2DA53.5EC477F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C2DA53.5EC477F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill Hicks................Jim = Hicks???????????????????????????????????????? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: Large Armies The following from my political strategy advisor: "A great quote made by some comedian, I think bill hicks =3D=3D>=20 "So Iraq had the fifth largest army in the world... So what did desert = storm teach us? That there is a HUGE f***ing drop-off between THE = largest army and the FIFTH largest army" =3DD" XXX ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C2DA53.5EC477F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bill Hicks................Jim=20 Hicks????????????????????????????????????????</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 = 9:37=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Large Armies</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">The following from my political strategy = advisor:<BR><BR>"A=20 great quote made by some comedian, I think bill hicks =3D=3D> = <BR><BR>"So Iraq=20 had the fifth largest army in the world... So what did desert storm = teach=20 us? That there is a HUGE f***ing drop-off between THE largest = army and=20 the FIFTH largest army" =3DD"<BR><BR>XXX</FONT> = </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C2DA53.5EC477F0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:22:00 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Draft Evasion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0062_01C2DA53.DACF61C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C2DA53.DACF61C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No I think Powell was born here; the black entertainer (collipso singer, = I can't remember his name) that called him a house n......r in a receint = interview is from there. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ralph Walter=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Draft Evasion In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:37:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: More fuel for the democratic fire: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and = well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard = units...Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination = strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are = created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country." (Colin = Powell=E2=80=99s autobiography, My American Journey, p. 148)=20 I just knew I liked Powell. But wasn't he born in Jamaica or some = damn place, so we can't get him for President? Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C2DA53.DACF61C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No I think Powell was born here; the = black=20 entertainer (collipso singer, I can't remember his name) that = called=20 him a house n......r in a receint interview is from there.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph = Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 = 11:04=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Draft = Evasion</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:37:29 AM Eastern = Standard=20 Time, <A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> = writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">More fuel for the democratic fire:<BR><BR>"I am angry = that so=20 many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed... managed to = wangle slots=20 in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the many tragedies of = Vietnam, this=20 raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the = ideal that=20 all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their = country."=20 (Colin Powell=E2=80=99s autobiography, <U>My American Journey</U>, = p. 148)=20 <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I just knew I liked Powell. But wasn't = he born=20 in Jamaica or some damn place, so we <U>can't</U> get him for=20 President?<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C2DA53.DACF61C0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:23:39 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C2DA54.1574A830" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C2DA54.1574A830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did'nt get that one, you'll have to share. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In any case I think SM was completely sand bagged. JH: So are you telling me it is not little SM in the child p*rn movies = I've been watching? I paid a hell of a lot of money to get them black = market and I'd hate to hear I got swindled. Oily little slicker ain't = he? ][<en ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C2DA54.1574A830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did'nt get that one, you'll have to=20 share.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 = 11:15=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In any case I think SM was completely sand = bagged. <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>JH: So are you telling me it is not = little SM=20 in the child p*rn movies I've been watching? I paid a hell of a lot of = money=20 to get them black market and I'd hate to hear I got swindled. Oily = little=20 slicker ain't he? ][<en</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C2DA54.1574A830-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:25:06 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you do a google search for chickenhawk there is list of all the current and past politicos and their chickenhawk statis. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Marcham" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam > Are you saying he was a Chickenhawk? > > http://www.awolbush.com/ <http://www.awolbush.com/> > > Lots of entertaining reading. > > > From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > > > Seems to me I read recently that Teddy Roosevelt was a woosie blow-hard. > > ][<en > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:29:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CT historical maps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12c.23c30b01.2b88e354_boundary" --part1_12c.23c30b01.2b88e354_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/03 8:37:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > . I attach a cool site for CT. Wow, thanks. Way cool. Deck. Glossy. Christopher --part1_12c.23c30b01.2b88e354_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/03 8:37:21 AM Eastern St= andard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE styl= e=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PA= DDING-LEFT: 5px">. I attach a cool site for CT. </FONT><FONT CO= LOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSS= ERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Wow, thanks. Way cool. Deck. Glossy. Christoph= er </FONT></HTML> --part1_12c.23c30b01.2b88e354_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:29:59 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Draft Evasion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0089_01C2DA54.F8288BB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C2DA54.F8288BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think one of the juiciest parts, which I would hope was in this book, = is the part where he testifies to the senate subcommity on Iran contra = to the effect that he didn't know if Cap Weinberger kept a diary, but in = a later interview let it slip that he did know. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Pam Stevenson=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:42 PM Subject: Re: Draft Evasion It's been a while since I read My American Journey - I think he is a = "native" American, if y'all get my drift. I'll have to look it up to = double check, though. It's a good read - lots of juicy lines that beg = to be highlighted and read again. -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ralph = Walter Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Draft Evasion In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:37:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: More fuel for the democratic fire: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and = well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard = units...Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination = strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are = created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country." (Colin = Powell=E2=80=99s autobiography, My American Journey, p. 148)=20 I just knew I liked Powell. But wasn't he born in Jamaica or some = damn place, so we can't get him for President? Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C2DA54.F8288BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think one of the juiciest parts, = which I would=20 hope was in this book, is the part where he testifies to the senate = subcommity=20 on Iran contra to the effect that he didn't know if Cap Weinberger = kept a=20 diary, but in a later interview let it slip that he did = know.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Pam=20 Stevenson</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 = 12:42=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Draft = Evasion</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D919454117-21022003>It's been a while since I read <U>My = American=20 Journey</U> - I think he is a "native" American, if y'all get my = drift. =20 I'll have to look it up to double check, though. It's a good = read - lots=20 of juicy lines that beg to be highlighted and read = again.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not = speak foul in=20 folly!" - ][<en Phollit=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of = </B>Ralph=20 Walter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 11:04 = AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20 [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: = Draft=20 Evasion<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT = lang=3D0=20 face=3DArial size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated = 2/21/2003 10:37:29=20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff = 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">More fuel for the democratic fire:<BR><BR>"I am angry = that so=20 many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed... managed to = wangle=20 slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the many tragedies = of=20 Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most = damaging to=20 the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal = allegiance to=20 their country." (Colin Powell=E2=80=99s autobiography, <U>My = American Journey</U>,=20 p. 148) <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I just knew I liked Powell. = But=20 wasn't he born in Jamaica or some damn place, so we <U>can't</U> get = him for=20 President?<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> = </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C2DA54.F8288BB0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:39:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Large Armies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c0.5711186.2b88e5a0_boundary" --part1_1c0.5711186.2b88e5a0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:18:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Bill Hicks................Jim Hicks???????????????????????????????????????? What's the difference? --part1_1c0.5711186.2b88e5a0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:18:51 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Bill Hicks................Jim Hicks????????????????????????= ????????????????</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> What's the difference?</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c0.5711186.2b88e5a0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:53:38 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Shuttle break up... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C2DA58.46332790" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C2DA58.46332790 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00D3_01C2DA58.46332790" ------=_NextPart_001_00D3_01C2DA58.46332790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know any of that but attached is a photo of the shuttle as it = passed over western AZ a minute before breakup, that my brother sent me. = I also have the v-mail of him saying 'there is is, it's gone now' or = some such. The shuttle is that little white dot on the left. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Met History=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 5:22 AM Subject: Shuttle break up... Has any subscriber seen an engineering account of the likely scenario = for the actual shuttle break up? Was what observer's saw as a bright = glowing trail, was that typical for reentry, or was that the shuttle = burning up? Did the shuttle start tumbling (after it lost aerodynamic = stability) and then broke apart right away under the stress, or did it = remain fundamentally intact and "burn up"? If the first, why was there = such a remarkable coherences seen in the glowing trail as photographed? = If the second, why aren't the materials recovered more charred, even = melted? Is the pattern of debris consistent with an instant, or = gradual breakup, given that it fell from 40 miles? Are there radar = plottings that document the deceleration of the "main" debris, and what = does that tell us? Aviation Week seems to be silent. ----Christopher ------=_NextPart_001_00D3_01C2DA58.46332790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't know any of that but attached = is a photo of=20 the shuttle as it passed over western AZ a minute before breakup, that = my=20 brother sent me. I also have the v-mail of him saying 'there is is, it's = gone=20 now' or some such. The shuttle is that little white dot on the=20 left.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Met = History</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 22, = 2003 5:22=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Shuttle break = up...</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">Has any subscriber seen an engineering = account of the=20 likely scenario for the actual shuttle break up? Was what=20 observer's saw as a bright glowing trail, was that typical for = reentry, or was=20 that the shuttle burning up? Did the shuttle start tumbling = (after it=20 lost aerodynamic stability) and then broke apart right away under the = stress,=20 or did it remain fundamentally intact and "burn up"? If = the first,=20 why was there such a remarkable coherences seen in the glowing trail = as=20 photographed? If the second, why aren't the materials recovered = more=20 charred, even melted? Is the pattern of debris = consistent=20 with an instant, or gradual breakup, given that it fell from 40 = miles? =20 Are there radar plottings that document the deceleration of the "main" = debris,=20 and what does that tell us? 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------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C2DA58.46332790-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:02:36 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Shuttle break up... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12e.23ab58e4.2b88eb0c_boundary" --part1_12e.23ab58e4.2b88eb0c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/03 9:54:47 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > I don't know any of that but attached is a photo of the shuttle as it passed > over western AZ a minute before breakup, that my brother sent me. I also > have the v-mail of him saying 'there is is, it's gone now' or some such. > The shuttle is that little white dot on the left. Jim, thanks but, uh, I don't think this photo is going to be dispositive. Best, Pairy Mason --part1_12e.23ab58e4.2b88eb0c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/03 9:54:47 AM, jimhicks@= JIM-HICKS.COM writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I don't know any of that but at= tached is a photo of the shuttle as it passed over western AZ a minute befor= e breakup, that my brother sent me. I also have the v-mail of him saying 'th= ere is is, it's gone now' or some such. The shuttle is that little white dot= on the left.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQU= OTE><BR> <BR> Jim, thanks but, uh, I don't think this photo is going to be dispositive.&nb= sp; Best, Pairy Mason</FONT></HTML> --part1_12e.23ab58e4.2b88eb0c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:58:57 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: 1891 Handwritten New York City Diary In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This was listed on a genealogy list I sub to. It might be interesting to you preservation types in NYC. I love old diaries but don't think this one is for me. Might give some insight to some of those old buildings, or maybe they are all gone by now. Ruth o 1891 Handwritten New York City Diary; Item # 2510182152 Auction ends: Feb-26-03 19:42:30 PST; Seller: diaries This diary is a cloth-covered tan diary, about 3" x 5" closed. I looked for the name of the author, but can't seem to find it. I know a lot about him, just can't find his name. He seems to be a builder or someone who does remodeling and lived in or near New York City during 1891. He usually lists the street address for most of the jobs he's working on at the time. The diary is practically full. The diary starts out with him either building or remodeling a Tabernacle in town and many pages are devoted to writing about it, as well as other very interesting things: "Ed R meets the architect to decide on decorations for back of pulpit. . . Lew L., two sweeds [sic] and I work all day at the Tabernacle. Part of the carpenters off and they commence to lay a paper floor. . . Pay night, give up $5.00 to the Union Delegates. Mob in New Orleans kill 11 Italians. . . mom looses her case trying to break Ray HAMILTON's will. . . The grip [sic] is raging again. . . Work all day at Park Ave. near 62nd St. New York. Varnishing in hall on 5th floor. . . The Italian minister at Washington recalled on account of New Orleans riot. Worked all day at the Tabernacle on the plastic ornaments, weather threatening. Visitor falls through a hole in the floor. Work at the Tabernacle all day. Delegate DAVIS calls on us. P. T BARNUM died yesterday. . . Pay night. Italy threatens to take away the legation and give minister PORTER his passport. They begin tuning the Organ. . . Go to see Lydia THOMPSON in the Dazler at the park in evening. . . No work at the shop, go over to New York to 84th Street and Amsterdam and stop at Washington Market on my way down. . . Bicycle parade in prospect park in Aft. . . . Work all day at 126 Delancy St. New York in a tenant house among bugs of all kinds. . . seen a little girl run over by a truck. . . work all day at Delancy St. We get 4th floor ready for paper hanging. Weather very warm. We see a street fight on the way home. . . Big fire raging at Jacksonville Florida. . . Street dug out for Cable road. . . building blown up and set a fire in Park Place about noon. . . Balamacidia is defeated in Chili. . . five democrats start for the Saratoga convention, two train loads from Brooklyn. . . there is a new street commissioner appointed in New York in the place of BEATRIX. . . Register for voting and get examined for the Royal Arcanum. . . Maria calls me up at 4:00 am to go for doctor, the girl is born. . . Emma has a rupture. . . Brooklyn has a water famine. . . big fire at Court and Harrison last night, no water to fight it, they get the water started today. . . ground broke for a bridge over the Hudson. . ." He also mentions many names such as: George SHERMAN, Miss POLLICK, Lydia THOMPSON, Dock BARTELL, Dr. LEWIS, COSGROVE, Gov. HILL, Dr. ABBOTT, CAREY Bros., H. C. HODKINS, D. H. SMITH, TERWILIGER, George TIFFANY, Will TARBOX, Ira HARRIS, and F. W. ABELL. There are more names, but for many he just uses initials. Places mentioned: Newburgh, Greenwood, Brooklyn, Mohawk Valley, Talmadge, Washington, Saratoga, Fort Hamilton, Bath Beach, Coney Island, Albany, Hyndsville, Lawyerville, Cobleskill, Manhattan beach, and Prospect park. There is much more. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2510182152 -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:12:10 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: UNH Library - posted (vintage) USGS topo maps... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e9.297fb64.2b88ed4a_boundary" --part1_1e9.297fb64.2b88ed4a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:51:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ken, you are the only Vice-President of anything that writes like this > since...since...Truman? What about that Office for Metropolitan History guy? Isn't he a corporate officer, or is he just some drone employee of the bill collector? Maybe he doesn't write as well as that other Missourian, anyway. Ralph --part1_1e9.297fb64.2b88ed4a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:51:10 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Ken, you are the only Vice-President of anything that= writes like this since...since...Truman?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" sty= le=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial= " LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> What about that Office for Metropolitan History guy? Isn't he a corpor= ate officer, or is he just some drone employee of the bill collector? =20= Maybe he doesn't write as well as that other Missourian, anyway.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e9.297fb64.2b88ed4a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:13:54 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BP On? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9f.342aa0d7.2b88edb2_boundary" --part1_9f.342aa0d7.2b88edb2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:04:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Naw, all us commie, hippy, faggots wear sandles. > If you were a real commie hippie faggot queer homo, you'd call them Jesus boots. Ralph, former Earth Shoe wearer, gone over to boots and sandals (in season) . --part1_9f.342aa0d7.2b88edb2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:04:46 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Naw, all us commie, hippy, fagg= ots wear sandles.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:=20= #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> If you were a real commie hippie faggot queer homo, you'd call them Jesus bo= ots.<BR> <BR> Ralph, former Earth Shoe wearer, gone over to boots and sandals (in season)=20= .</FONT></HTML> --part1_9f.342aa0d7.2b88edb2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:14:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Permitting Saddam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1eb.29804d6.2b88ede0_boundary" --part1_1eb.29804d6.2b88ede0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:05:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The triple X remindes me that yesterday was the anniversary of Malcolm's > assassination. > Let us remove our yarmulkes in tribute. Ralph --part1_1eb.29804d6.2b88ede0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:05:46 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The triple X remindes me that y= esterday was the anniversary of Malcolm's assassination.</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Let us remove our yarmulkes in tribute.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1eb.29804d6.2b88ede0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:27:11 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Socks and Sandals In-Reply-To: <001101c2da7a$ff51c750$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-1048438728 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-4-1048438728 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Minnesotans tend to wear both socks and sandles. Sounds odd at first,=20= but one adapts. -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > Naw, all us commie, hippy, faggots wear sandles. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ralph Walter > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:11 PM > Subject: Re: BP On? > > In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about stuff...but socks > ain't one of those things.=A0 I used to have a mild concern about the > black socks matching, but that problem was simplified when I started > working from home.=A0 Most days I just grab a clean pair of from the = top. > I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find > matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into = the > cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. > > But finding my spouse is much more interesting.=A0 Hell, I still shave > dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and catz! > > > > John, > > I guess we just have different priorities.=A0 I haven't shaved in 30=20= > years, but hate the notion of mismatched socks.=A0 Then again, it=20 > appears that we are in complete agreement on the importance of clean=20= > socks on a daily basis. > > Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks? > > Ralph > --Apple-Mail-4-1048438728 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Minnesotans tend to wear both socks and sandles. Sounds odd at first, but one adapts. =20 -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Naw, all us commie, hippy, faggots wear sandles.</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>jh</smaller></fontfamily> ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>Ralph = Walter</color></underline> <bold>To:</bold> = <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS@MAELSTR= OM.STJOHNS.EDU</color></underline> <bold>Sent:</bold> Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:11 PM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: BP On? <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, = <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[log in to unmask]</c= olor></underline> writes: I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about stuff...but socks ain't one of those things.=A0 I used to have a mild concern about the black socks matching, but that problem was simplified when I started working from home.=A0 Most days I just grab a clean pair of from the = top. I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into the cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. But finding my spouse is much more interesting.=A0 Hell, I still shave dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and catz! John, I guess we just have different priorities.=A0 I haven't shaved in 30 years, but hate the notion of mismatched socks.=A0 Then again, it appears that we are in complete agreement on the importance of clean socks on a daily basis. Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks? Ralph</smaller></fontfamily> </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-4-1048438728-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:33:01 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1891 Handwritten New York City Diary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_198.15fb67b7.2b88f22d_boundary" --part1_198.15fb67b7.2b88f22d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/03 10:05:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > This was listed on a genealogy list I sub to. It might be interesting to > you preservation types in NYC. I'm not from NY, but this diary is Way Cool!. I'm currently doing research on a family that came from Brooklyn (1872-1899)..Interesting to know about the water famine..etc. Speaking of Brooklyn: anyone know about Sterling (Street?) near front entrance (GAR Plaza) at Prospect Park? I'd like to know what kind of neighborhood (guess its was very white middleclass) and buildings (I think multistoried -perhaps close together) as it was around 1880-1889? The family I'm researching moved there from Brooklyn Heights around that time to give their 3 kids more outdoor space... I checked on-line historical maps, but haven't found one with enough detail and by modern aerials, seems it has changed a lot from turn of century. Candy Brashears --part1_198.15fb67b7.2b88f22d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/03 10:05:41 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">This was listed on a genealogy=20= list I sub to. It might be interesting to<BR> you preservation types in NYC.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I'm not from NY, but this diary is Way Cool!. I'm currently doing rese= arch on a family that came from Brooklyn (1872-1899)..Interesting to know ab= out the water famine..etc. <BR> Speaking of Brooklyn: anyone know about Sterling (Street?) near front=20= entrance (GAR Plaza) at Prospect Park? I'd like to know what kind of neighbo= rhood (guess its was very white middleclass) and buildings (I think multisto= ried -perhaps close together) as it was around 1880-1889? The family I= 'm researching moved there from Brooklyn Heights around that time to give th= eir 3 kids more outdoor space...<BR> <BR> I checked on-line historical maps, but haven't found one with enough detail=20= and by modern aerials, seems it has changed a lot from turn of century.<BR> <BR> Candy Brashears<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_198.15fb67b7.2b88f22d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:35:00 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Socks and Sandals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C2DA5E.0D17F4D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C2DA5E.0D17F4D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tried that but socks got too wet and mushie. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Socks and Sandals Minnesotans tend to wear both socks and sandles. Sounds odd at first, = but one adapts.=20 -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: Naw, all us commie, hippy, faggots wear sandles. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: Re: BP On? In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about stuff...but socks ain't one of those things. I used to have a mild concern about the black socks matching, but that problem was simplified when I started working from home. Most days I just grab a clean pair of from the = top. I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the effort to find matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have to go "into = the cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to impress. But finding my spouse is much more interesting. Hell, I still shave dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and catz! John, I guess we just have different priorities. I haven't shaved in 30 = years, but hate the notion of mismatched socks. Then again, it appears = that we are in complete agreement on the importance of clean socks on a = daily basis. Any of you pervs out there got any objection to clean socks? Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C2DA5E.0D17F4D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tried that but socks got too wet and=20 mushie.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John=20 Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 22, = 2003 10:27=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Socks and = Sandals</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Minnesotans tend to wear both socks and sandles. Sounds = odd at=20 first, but one adapts. <BR><BR>-jc<BR>On Saturday, February 22, 2003, = at 08:02=20 AM, Jim Hicks wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Naw, all us commie, = hippy,=20 faggots wear = sandles.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>jh<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>-----=20 Original Message -----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>Ralph = Walter<?/color></U><BR><B>To:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A><?/color></U><BR><B>Sent:</B>=20 Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:11 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: BP = On?<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>In a message dated = 2/20/2003=20 9:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U>=20 writes:<BR><BR>I'm frequently accused of being obssessive about = stuff...but=20 socks<BR>ain't one of those things. I used to have a mild = concern=20 about the<BR>black socks matching, but that problem was simplified = when I=20 started<BR>working from home. Most days I just grab a clean = pair of=20 from the top.<BR>I do like clean socks daily...and I will go to the = effort=20 to find<BR>matching ones of an appropriate color if I think I have = to go=20 "into the<BR>cities" to meet with folks I'm trying to = impress.<BR><BR>But=20 finding my spouse is much more interesting. Hell, I still=20 shave<BR>dailey, and it ain't for them dogz and=20 catz!<BR><BR><BR><BR>John,<BR><BR>I guess we just have different=20 priorities. I haven't shaved in 30 years, but hate the notion = of=20 mismatched socks. Then again, it appears that we are in = complete=20 agreement on the importance of clean socks on a daily = basis.<BR><BR>Any of=20 you pervs out there got any objection to clean = socks?<BR><BR>Ralph<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQ= UOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C2DA5E.0D17F4D0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:52:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Socks and Sandals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bc.347f115c.2b88f6cb_boundary" --part1_bc.347f115c.2b88f6cb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:26:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Minnesotans tend to wear both socks and sandles. Sounds odd at first, > but one adapts. > Yeah I see them in Savannah all the time. Look Geowge Suvannuh is a lovely city. The weathuh is so lovely. I think we should move heuh. I hope this makes some sense. I do a better first person impression. Steve --part1_bc.347f115c.2b88f6cb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:26:57 AM Easte= rn Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Minnesotans tend to wear both socks and sandles. Soun= ds odd at first, <BR> but one adapts.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Yeah I see them in Savannah all the time. Look Geowge Suvannuh is a lovely c= ity. The weathuh is so lovely. I think we should move heuh. I hope this make= s some sense. I do a better first person impression.<BR> <BR> Steve </FONT></HTML> --part1_bc.347f115c.2b88f6cb_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:56:30 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1891 Handwritten New York City Diary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e8.2995226.2b88f7ae_boundary" --part1_1e8.2995226.2b88f7ae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/03 10:33:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I'd like to know what kind of neighborhood (guess its was very white > middleclass) and buildings (I think multistoried -perhaps close together) > as it was around 1880-1889? Candace (what the hell is MockChap - and did you have to take "5" because 1-4 were already spoken for??): --race and class: census returns, usually searchable by name only but see below --occupants: Ancestry has a digitized 1888 Brooklyn directory; you can search for names, yes, but you can also keyword search for "Sterling". Thank Allah that they didn't live on Smith Street --you can determine occupancy by cross searching the Ancestry directory by searching for specific addresses, and determining the number of names returned --with specific names, you can then search the digitized censuses to locate those households (note: no census for1890, only 1880 and 1900) --if you are too damn cheap to buy an 1880's Brooklyn atlas (showing sizes, heights and lot coverage of buildings) on the web ($500 or so), many research libraries have a microfiche set of American city landmaps (not just maps, but landmaps aka atlases aka landbooks aka insurance maps) (see www.nysoclib.org "Researching ..." for an illustration) I bet you're too lazy to do all this, 'cause why else would you be a BP subscriber? Basic ancestry is $60/year. Or public library. Or hire us - $20 million minimum, payable to our account in Nigeria Our Motto: Old Buildings, Dead Architects --part1_1e8.2995226.2b88f7ae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/03 10:33:53 AM Eastern S= tandard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'd like to know what kind of n= eighborhood (guess its was very white middleclass) and buildings (I think mu= ltistoried -perhaps close together) as it was around 1880-1889? </FONT= ><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMIL= Y=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Candace (what the hell is MockChap - and did you have to take "5" because 1-= 4 were already spoken for??):<BR> <BR> --race and class: census returns, usually searchable by name only but=20= see below<BR> --occupants: Ancestry has a digitized 1888 Brooklyn directory; you can= search for names, yes, but you can also keyword search for "Sterling". = ; Thank Allah that they didn't live on Smith Street<BR> --you can determine occupancy by cross searching the Ancestry directory by s= earching for specific addresses, and determining the number of names returne= d<BR> --with specific names, you can then search the digitized censuses to locate=20= those households (note: no census for1890, only 1880 and 1900)<BR> --if you are too damn cheap to buy an 1880's Brooklyn atlas (showing sizes,=20= heights and lot coverage of buildings) on the web ($500 or so), many r= esearch libraries have a microfiche set of American city landmaps (not just=20= maps, but landmaps aka atlases aka landbooks aka insurance maps) (see=20= www.nysoclib.org "Researching ..." for an illustration)<BR> <BR> I bet you're too lazy to do all this, 'cause why else would you be a B= P subscriber?<BR> <BR> Basic ancestry is $60/year. Or public library. Or hire us - $20=20= million minimum, payable to our account in Nigeria<BR> <BR> Our Motto: Old Buildings, Dead Architects </FONT></HTML> --part1_1e8.2995226.2b88f7ae_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:57:32 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter...and we're gonna inundate you MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c5.30f2914e.2b88f7ec_boundary" --part1_c5.30f2914e.2b88f7ec_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:15:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I was trying to come up with something to try and get as much water away > from the building as possible. A wise move.They currently have only one > section of gutter on the back side to keep roof run off from hitting their > HVAC units. Basically the entire lower section (2' to 4') has been or needs > to be repointed. I associated this with roof water run off. Not > inconceivable, but given the rest of the lousy conditions you described, I > would think lackagutters is (maybe) a relatively small component of the > problem, lackagutters isn't necessarily like lackanookie. I took the > gutters off my house about 10 years ago and it doesn't seem to have > mattered, except that I don't get ice dams. As long as you have decent eave > projections, I would THINK the absence of gutters shouldn't be a big deal. > Without eaves, I would think you'd have water damage strating at the tops > of the walls, but the guys (excuse me, gender-neutral persons) in the olden > days knew eaves were necessary and didn't consider them expendable > frou-frou. It is possible that the plaster deterioration maybe from window > sill leaks. Very likely; wooden and/or masonry sills, deteriorated sash, > caulking are all possible components here.They are currently looking for > folks to repair some of the window woodwork and this scares the hell out of > me considering the idiot craftsmen in this city. The source(s) of the > penetration must be properly diagnosed first; the problem is that there > seem to be so many candidates for the sources, and ALL may well contribute. > Heck I can't even afford them the distinction of craftsmen. I don't know > what to call them.I bet you have an idea or two. The walls are 21" or 23" > thick. It all depends on who you ask. And where you measure, no doubt.I did > not see any evidence of moisture in the plaster yesterday except for one > small area. Where was this area? Below a window, between windows, below a > belt course, behind a leader for the limited gutters there are, or what? Ya > gotta tell us this stuff. We are expecting some severe weather today so > maybe tomorrow I will take a look to see if I can find some evidence of > what is going on.Smart move; might as well take advantage of fecal weather > conditions. The problem is, weather is uncontrolled, and you need to be > able to direct water at specific areas (like window sills) and keep it away > from others to determine whether each component is the source of the leak, > and there may be different components which cause leaks in different--or > the same--areas. It's also very possible that you've got multiple sources > of penetration which cause leakage into one area, and that if "you" fix one > element, there may be another 5 leaking which you don't know about and they > will think you failed. This kind of stuff requires long term > investigation, and is very likely to require multiple and sequential > repairs to eventually get all the sources. You need to explain this to the > Church, who won't like it, but T.S., Elliott. I think the building at one > time was lime washed and I think was painted later. This may well have been > a treatment to stop water penetration, but on the other hand, given the > thickness of the walls, I bet it was more cosmetic than anything else. The > congregation had someone remove the paint(?) and in doing so used steam > pressure washer which in turn destroyed Do you know for a fact that the > brick was damaged, or are you assuming it was? When was this crime > committed? the fire skin on the soft brick. This is certainly not good, but > if your water-damaged plaster is limited and isolated, the destruction of > the brick surface MAY not have had much effect, given the multiple-wythe > construction. THAT (the multiple wythes) is probably what is saving them > from real disaster. How long ago was the brick surface damaged; was it > equally damaged everywhere; how old are the water penetration problems; > does there seem to be any time relation between water penetration and work > done on the building? Another question is whether the interior is > plastered on furring, or is the plaster applied directly to the brick? If > there's furring, you should open something (at the already-damaged area, > and at a good area) and see whether there's water on the inside face of the > brick wall running behind the plaster. Given the limited plaster damage > you describe, my bet is that the plaster is furred--or that there is in > fact little water penetration through the wall, since plaster over wet > brick should go to hell quickly and fairly uniformly everywhere, unless > there are variations in exterior surface conditions.There should be a death > penalty given when morons like this are allowed to destroy a structure like > this. I think the punishment should be comparable to the crime. The Mikado > is in very close agreement with you, as is your Humor Czar. Perhaps if you > guys paid more attention to architectural crime, and less to miscegenation > and cornholing, the South would be a better place. Kinda like New York. In > this case it would skin removal with high pressure steam pressure washer. > Naah, low pressure, low temperature would take longer and therefore be > more fitting. Or maybe something involving fire ants. There should be lots of Histo Presto Fags down there in > Savannah who could do this investigative stuff, or do they stick to > selecting fabric and wallpapers? What about your SHPO for referrals to a > good artichoke? > Ralph --part1_c5.30f2914e.2b88f7ec_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:15:13 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I was trying to come up with something to try and get=20= as much water away from the building as possible. <B><I>A wise move</I>.</B>= They currently have only one section of gutter on the back side to keep roof= run off from hitting their HVAC units. Basically the entire lower section (= 2' to 4') has been or needs to be repointed. I associated this with roof wat= er run off. <B><I>Not inconceivable, but given the rest of the lousy conditi= ons you described, I would think lackagutters is (maybe) a relatively small=20= component of the problem</B></I>, <B><I>lackagutters isn't necessarily like=20= lackanookie. I took the gutters off my house about 10 years ago and it doesn= 't seem to have mattered, except that I don't get ice dams. As long as you h= ave decent eave projections, I would THINK the absence of gutters shouldn't=20= be a big deal. Without eaves, I would think you'd have water damage st= rating at the tops of the walls, but the guys (excuse me, gender-neutral per= sons) in the olden days knew eaves were necessary and didn't consider them e= xpendable frou-frou. </B></I>It is possible that the plaster deterioration m= aybe from window sill leaks. <B><I>Very likely; wooden and/or masonry sills,= deteriorated sash, caulking are all possible components here.</B></I>They a= re currently looking for folks to repair some of the window woodwork and thi= s scares the hell out of me considering the idiot craftsmen in this city. <B= ><I>The source(s) of the penetration must be properly diagnosed first; the p= roblem is that there seem to be so many candidates for the sources, and ALL=20= may well contribute. </B></I>Heck I can't even afford them the distinction o= f craftsmen. I don't know what to call them.<B><I>I bet you have an idea or=20= two.</B></I> The walls are 21" or 23" thick. It all depends on who you ask.=20= <B><I>And where you measure, no doubt.</B></I>I did not see any evidence of=20= moisture in the plaster yesterday except for one small area. <B><I>Where was= this area? Below a window, between windows, below a belt course, behind a l= eader for the limited gutters there are, or what? Ya gotta tell us this stuf= f. </B></I>We are expecting some severe weather today so maybe tomorrow I wi= ll take a look to see if I can find some evidence of what is going on.<B><I>= Smart move; might as well take advantage of fecal weather conditions. =20= The problem is, weather is uncontrolled, and you need to be able to direct w= ater at specific areas (like window sills) and keep it away from others to d= etermine whether each component is the source of the leak, and there may be=20= different components which cause leaks in different--or the same--areas. It'= s also very possible that you've got multiple sources of penetration which c= ause leakage into one area, and that if "you" fix one element, there may be=20= another 5 leaking which you don't know about and they will think you failed.= This kind of stuff requires long term investigation, and is very like= ly to require multiple and sequential repairs to eventually get all the sour= ces. You need to explain this to the Church, who won't like it, but T.S., El= liott.</B></I> I think the building at one time was lime washed and I think=20= was painted later. <B><I>This may well have been a treatment to stop water p= enetration, but on the other hand, given the thickness of the walls, I bet i= t was more cosmetic than anything else.</B></I> The congregation had someone= remove the paint(?) and in doing so used steam pressure washer which in tur= n destroyed <B><I>Do you know for a fact that the brick was damaged, or are=20= you assuming it was? When was this crime committed? </B></I>the fire skin on= the soft brick. <B><I>This is certainly not good, but if your water-damaged= plaster is limited and isolated, the destruction of the brick surface MAY n= ot have had much effect, given the multiple-wythe construction. THAT (= the multiple wythes) is probably what is saving them from real disaster. How= long ago was the brick surface damaged; was it equally damaged everywhere;=20= how old are the water penetration problems; does there seem to be any time r= elation between water penetration and work done on the building? Anoth= er question is whether the interior is plastered on furring, or is the plast= er applied directly to the brick? If there's furring, you should open=20= something (at the already-damaged area, and at a good area) and see whether=20= there's water on the inside face of the brick wall running behind the plaste= r. Given the limited plaster damage you describe, my bet is that the p= laster is furred--or that there is in fact little water penetration through=20= the wall, since plaster over wet brick should go to hell quickly and fairly=20= uniformly everywhere, unless there are variations in exterior surface condit= ions.</B></I>There should be a death penalty given when morons like this are= allowed to destroy a structure like this. I think the punishment should be=20= comparable to the crime. <B><I>The Mikado is in very close agreement with yo= u, as is your Humor Czar. Perhaps if you guys paid more attention to archite= ctural crime, and less to miscegenation and cornholing, the South would be a= better place. Kinda like New York. </B></I>In this case it would skin remov= al with high pressure steam pressure washer. <B><I>Naah, low pressure,= low temperature would take longer and therefore be more fitting. Or m= aybe something involving fire ants. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000= 000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"= Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"></B></I><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><B><I> There should be=20= lots of Histo Presto Fags down there in </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" styl= e=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic San= s MS" LANG=3D"0"></B></I><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><B><I>Savannah who could do this investigative stuff,=20= or do they stick to selecting fabric and wallpapers? What about your SHPO fo= r referrals to a good artichoke?<BR> Ralph</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:= #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"></B><= /I><BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_c5.30f2914e.2b88f7ec_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:00:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Draft Evasion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f.ae5c3db.2b88f889_boundary" --part1_f.ae5c3db.2b88f889_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:22:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > No I think Powell was born here; the black entertainer (collipso singer, I > can't remember his nameThat would be Harry Belafonte, who Denzel Washington > seems to hold in high esteem) that called him a house n......r in a receint > interview is from there. Maybe it was Powell's father who was from Down > There somewhere, but I somehow thought it was Powell himself. Ralph --part1_f.ae5c3db.2b88f889_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:22:22 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">No I think Powell was born here= ; the black entertainer (collipso singer, I can't remember his name<B>That w= ould be Harry Belafonte, who Denzel Washington seems to hold in high esteem<= /B>) that called him a house n......r in a receint interview is from there.&= nbsp; <B>Maybe it was Powell's father who was from Down There somewhere, but= I somehow thought it was Powell himself.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ralph<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_f.ae5c3db.2b88f889_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:02:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_120.1e325331.2b88f920_boundary" --part1_120.1e325331.2b88f920_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:24:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I did'nt get that one, you'll have to share. > jh > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> >> To: <A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> >> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:15 AM >> Subject: Re: Iraq response &Constitution >> >> >> In any case I think SM was completely sand bagged. >> >> >> JH: So are you telling me it is not little SM in the child p*rn movies >> I've been watching? I paid a hell of a lot of money to get them black >> market and I'd hate to hear I got swindled. Oily little slicker ain't he? >> ][<en > Jim, Check out "South Park" the movie. It is funny as hell. Maybe even funnier than The Pig Fart Movie, AKA "A Private Function." I kid you not, and recommend both highly. Ralph --part1_120.1e325331.2b88f920_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:24:15 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I did'nt get that one, you'll h= ave to share.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">jh</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">----- Original Message ----- <B= R> <B>From:</B> <A HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> <BR> <B>To:</B> <A HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULL= [log in to unmask]</A> <BR> <B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 11:15 AM<BR> <B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response &Constitution<BR> <BR> <BR> In any case I think SM was completely sand bagged. <BR> <BR> <BR> JH: So are you telling me it is not little SM in the child p*rn movies I've=20= been watching? I paid a hell of a lot of money to get them black market and=20= I'd hate to hear I got swindled. Oily little slicker ain't he? ][<en</FON= T><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMI= LY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Jim, <BR> <BR> Check out "South Park" the movie. It is funny as hell. Maybe eve= n funnier than The Pig Fart Movie, AKA "A Private Function."<BR> <BR> I kid you not, and recommend both highly.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_120.1e325331.2b88f920_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:06:05 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ralph: "possible that you've got multiple sources of penetration" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4c.1888b347.2b88f9ed_boundary" --part1_4c.1888b347.2b88f9ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/03 10:58:23 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > I would think lackagutters is (maybe) a relatively small component of the > problem, lackagutters isn't necessarily like lackanookie. So, Ralph, you know a good nookie installer? Sign me, Don't Normally Approve of Sexually-Related One-liners, But Feeling Frisky --part1_4c.1888b347.2b88f9ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/03 10:58:23 AM, RLWALTR@= AOL.COM writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE= style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0p= x; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B><I>I would think lackagutters is (maybe) a relative= ly small component of the problem</B></I>, <B><I>lackagutters isn't necessar= ily like lackanookie. </BLOCKQUOTE></B></I><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> So, Ralph, you know a good nookie installer?<BR> <BR> Sign me, Don't Normally Approve of Sexually-Related One-liners,=20= But Feeling Frisky </FONT></HTML> --part1_4c.1888b347.2b88f9ed_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:10:15 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1891 Handwritten New York City Diary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_129.23a0463c.2b88fae7_boundary" --part1_129.23a0463c.2b88fae7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:57:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Our Motto: Old Buildings, Dead Architects As a wise man once said in another context, the only good architect is a dead architect. Present company accepted, except in my case. Ralph Ooh-- what's that pain? --part1_129.23a0463c.2b88fae7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:57:27 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Our Motto: Old Buildings, Dead Architects </BLO= CKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20= SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> As a wise man once said in another context, the only good architect is a dea= d architect. <BR> <BR> Present company accepted, except in my case.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> Ooh-- what's that pain?</FONT></HTML> --part1_129.23a0463c.2b88fae7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:11:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter...and we're gonna inundate you MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c1.2f005622.2b88fb17_boundary" --part1_c1.2f005622.2b88fb17_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:58:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Hot damn that Ralph is a sharp tack. How much do I owe you? Stand by the mail box. Steve > There should be lots of Histo Presto Fags down there in > >> Savannah who could do this investigative stuff, or do they stick to >> selecting fabric and wallpapers? What about your SHPO for referrals to a >> good artichoke? >> > --part1_c1.2f005622.2b88fb17_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:58:23 AM Easte= rn Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> Hot damn that Ralph is a sharp tack. How much do I owe you? Stand by the mai= l box.<BR> <BR> Steve<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B><I>There should be lots of H= isto Presto Fags down there in </B></I><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B><I>Savannah who could do thi= s investigative stuff, or do they stick to selecting fabric and wallpapers?=20= What about your SHPO for referrals to a good artichoke?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></B></I><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_c1.2f005622.2b88fb17_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:12:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Ralph: "possible that you've got multiple sources of penetration" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_131.1af0c550.2b88fb84_boundary" --part1_131.1af0c550.2b88fb84_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 11:07:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > So, Ralph, you know a good nookie installer? > > Sign me, Don't Normally Approve of Sexually-Related One-liners, But > Feeling Frisky Never occurred to me that nookie needed installation, but it makes sense that it has to come from somewhere. Ralph --part1_131.1af0c550.2b88fb84_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 11:07:03 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">So, Ralph, you know a good nookie installer?<BR> <BR> Sign me, Don't Normally Approve of Sexually-Related One-liners,=20= But Feeling Frisky </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BAC= KGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Never occurred to me that nookie needed installation, but it makes sense tha= t it has to come from somewhere.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_131.1af0c550.2b88fb84_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:14:46 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter...and we're gonna inundate you MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1f0.29a384e.2b88fbf6_boundary" --part1_1f0.29a384e.2b88fbf6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 11:11:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Hot damn that Ralph is a sharp tack. Sharp like a marble. How much do I owe > you? Stand by the mail box. Good thing my porch has wide eaves, in this > goddam rain. Ralph (Ken [and his son] cleaned MY bricks) --part1_1f0.29a384e.2b88fbf6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 11:11:23 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Hot damn that Ralph is a sharp tack. <B>Sharp like a m= arble. </B>How much do I owe you? Stand by the mail box. <B>Good thing my po= rch has wide eaves, in this goddam rain.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"= #000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><B>Ralph</B> <B>(Ken [a= nd his son] cleaned MY bricks)</B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1f0.29a384e.2b88fbf6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:49:06 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Donald B. White" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Calculating MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message text written by Ralph >As an architect, I use a special subtracting calculator when reviewing contractors' Applications for Payment. This is as opposed to contractors= , who use a special multiplying calculator for preparing their bids and Applications for Payment. < Oh, I see... one calculator for contracting and a different one for expanding? I use a digital calculator.... I count on my fingers. Twice the capacity = if I take my shoes off. = Sign me, Arithmetically Challenged -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:53:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Calculating MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_194.1595ab1f.2b89132f_boundary" --part1_194.1595ab1f.2b89132f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 12:50:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I use a digital calculator.... I count on my fingers. Twice the capacity if > I take my shoes off. > Don't forget the other digit. Ralph --part1_194.1595ab1f.2b89132f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 12:50:19 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I use a digital calculator....=20= I count on my fingers. Twice the capacity if<BR> I take my shoes off. <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Don't forget the other digit.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_194.1595ab1f.2b89132f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:45:22 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "vgernet.net" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Classified 1-H 4/10/72 with #252. Strange, I just ran across the original card used as a book mark ( Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me). I never realized what a great name it was; Selective Service System. I'm still on the group W bench. I think getting that card was one of the few things I remember between 1969 and 1980. Speaking of war, were the NYers a little nervous when the column of smoke rising from Staten Island? ctb ----- Original Message ----- From: "mitch wilds" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board > John Callan wrote: > > > ' Didn't hey pull the plug on the draft in '72? > > but they kept the lottery around for a couple of more years. > sign me, > 278 in '73 > > -- > > F. Mitchener Wilds, Senior Restoration Specialist > Restoration Branch > State Historic Preservation Office > 919/733-6547 > http://www.hpo.dcr.state.nc.us > > ***My opinions may not be those of my agency.*** > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > E-mail to and from me, in connection with the transaction of public business, is subject to the > North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:02:43 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "vgernet.net" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C2DA7B.12276740" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C2DA7B.12276740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If it's raining as hard up at Ruths as it is here it won't be a slow = melt. All the rivers are frozen too, it could get interesting. ctb in = the Berkshires ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution From the looks of it on the telly I think we already attacked = Antarctica and they dumped snow on NYC &Washington, DC. Ruth up north where a two-footer is a snow squall. Ruth: Double whammy attack, now it is warming up too fast and it will = all melt real quick and flood us out. Leastways my impression of Vermont = is you get a relatively slow melt. Here, and south of there, it snows = 24" and a week later it is all gone and the crocuses are blooming just = in time for another snow fall and freeze. ][<en=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C2DA7B.12276740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>If it's raining as hard up at Ruths as it is here it = won't be=20 a slow melt. All the rivers are frozen too, it could get interesting. = ctb in the=20 Berkshires</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 20, = 2003 9:05=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">From the looks of it on the telly I think we = already=20 attacked Antarctica<BR>and they dumped snow on NYC &Washington, = DC. =20 Ruth up north where a<BR>two-footer is a snow squall. <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Ruth: Double whammy attack, now it is = warming=20 up too fast and it will all melt real quick and flood us out. = Leastways my=20 impression of Vermont is you get a relatively slow melt. Here, and = south of=20 there, it snows 24" and a week later it is all gone and the crocuses = are=20 blooming just in time for another snow fall and freeze. = ][<en</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C2DA7B.12276740-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:20:47 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2DA7D.97D3EA10" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2DA7D.97D3EA10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saw it with my daughter when it came out. Yea it was very funny. Didn't = the song "Uncle f..ker" get an Oscar? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ralph Walter=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:24:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I did'nt get that one, you'll have to share. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response &Constitution In any case I think SM was completely sand bagged.=20 JH: So are you telling me it is not little SM in the child p*rn = movies I've been watching? I paid a hell of a lot of money to get them = black market and I'd hate to hear I got swindled. Oily little slicker = ain't he? ][<en=20 Jim,=20 Check out "South Park" the movie. It is funny as hell. Maybe even = funnier than The Pig Fart Movie, AKA "A Private Function." I kid you not, and recommend both highly. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2DA7D.97D3EA10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Saw it with my daughter when it came = out. Yea it=20 was very funny. Didn't the song "Uncle f..ker" get an = Oscar?</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph = Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 22, = 2003 11:02=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/22/2003 9:24:15 AM Eastern = Standard=20 Time, <A = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>=20 writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">I did'nt get that one, you'll have to share.</FONT><FONT = lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D3=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">jh</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D3=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff = 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">----- Original Message ----- <BR><B>From:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> <BR><B>To:</B> <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 11:15 = AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20 Iraq response &Constitution<BR><BR><BR>In any case I think SM = was=20 completely sand bagged. <BR><BR><BR>JH: So are you telling me it = is not=20 little SM in the child p*rn movies I've been watching? I paid a = hell of a=20 lot of money to get them black market and I'd hate to hear I got = swindled.=20 Oily little slicker ain't he? ][<en</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3Darial color=3D#000000 = size=3D3=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> = </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Jim, <BR><BR>Check out "South Park" the = movie. It is=20 funny as hell. Maybe even funnier than The Pig Fart Movie, AKA = "A=20 Private Function."<BR><BR>I kid you not, and recommend both=20 highly.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2DA7D.97D3EA10-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:11:22 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "vgernet.net" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Eve and Festus left the Hevens Gate folks shortly before they offed themselves. Festus is in Ithaca now, staying at the Hillside Inn last I heard, don't know where Eve is. Although I consider Festus my friend, I would have to question "Reaction from people who knew Ms. Ujhelyi and Fiester in Ithaca was one of surprise at the news. Friends described them as "intelligent and rational" people whom they would not expect to be "taken in" easily." This was not my experiance with Mike. After he burned down his parents house making french fries we shared a house during my saltmine period. We also shared a cell one night, my sister bailed me out, but wouldn't go for Festus. I remember the incident as something about a log, a boa constrictor and my view of the consitution. ctb raining harder going down to look at the river ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Follett" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 7:44 AM Subject: Eve & Festus > The adventures of my friends Eve & Festus. This is the last news that I have of them. Early Heaven’s Gate. > > The Ithaca Journal, October 30, 1975, By Gail Dickinson > > Two former Ithacans have joined a group of people from Oregon who say they are preparing to be taken to another level beyond humans by a spaceship. > > The whereabouts of the two is not known, but recent letters to their families indicate they are committed to the group and its philosophy. > On Sept. 18, Michael Fiester, 24, and Eve Ujhelyi, 21. who left Ithaca in late 1973 for Oregon, joined the followers of a couple who claim to be "sent from another level above that of human." > Families of the two have received letters from both which tell of their belief in the couple and in their claims that persons who follow them. will be "reborn." > > The disappearance of about 20 Oregon residents also with an undetermined number of Californians has been in the national news in recent weeks. There have been reports of people giving away children and property before leaving to join the group. > Dan Staggs, 43, a person with whom the two Ithacans were living in Springfield, Ore., also has joined the group. Staggs gave away his house before leaving, according to Chris Carlson, who now lives in the home. > > Fiester's mother, Mrs. John Fiester of Trumansburg Road, Ithaca, said she has written to President Ford and will write Rep. Matthew McHugh (D Ithaca) requesting help in locating her son. > > She, said she and. her husband were in Florida when her son left Oregon with the group. When they returned here last week, there were two letters from their son, one written around Sept. 18 before he left and mailed later by a friend, and another, postmarked Enid, Okla., and dated Oct. 12. Both letters were shown to The Journal by Mrs. Fiester. > > In the first letter, Michael, known by friends to Ithaca as "Festus," said he was going on a "quest for the truth and my real self." He said he felt "directed to do it" and that it was his own will. > > In the second letter, he explained that "in essence we are all endeavoring to be re united with our father creator." He said he was undergoing "the preparations necessary for any human to undergo in order to attain that next level." > In both of the letter. Fiester stressed he is doing this of his own free will and denied that "hypnosis, death, murder. fraud, etc.,". is involved.' > > Eve Ujhelyi's father, who lives in Oregon, said in a telephone interview he has not heard from his daughter. Her sister, Gabriel, who lives in Atlanta, told The Journal she has received two communications. One, mailed from Oregon, was written before the pair left with the group, and the second, dated Oct. 7, was mailed from Yorkville, Ill. > > In both letters, Ms. Ujhelyi asked her sister not to worry. In one, she said that she had "gone to see the Wizard and catch a spaceship." > It is not known if Ms. Ujhelyi and Fiester are still together. They told Ms. Carlson before they left that they expected to be separated, and in one of the letters to her sister, Ms. Ujhelyi said that "Festus is 'gone,' too." > > Staggs is apparently no longer with the group, Ms. Carlson said. A recent letter, without postmark or date, has been received from him saying that he had "disassociated" himself from any group. > > Ms. Carlson said that the three were very optimistic before they left. She stressed that they were "very capable people ... who knew what they were doing." She said she now regrets not having gone to the Oregon meetings to join the group. > "They have been pretty much exposed to the world," she said. "They knew what was real and what wasn't." She said she is not worried about the trio because "these people know when to bail out " > > She said she would like to give the pair, "a lot of positive encouragement." > > Fiester, Ms. Ujhelyi and Staggs attended three meetings over a two week period before they left on Sept. 18, Ms. Carlson said. She felt that in leaving, and limiting communication, the three were "demanding privacy to do what they want to do with their lives." > > Before they left, Ms. Carlson said, they were upset at the criticism by their friends, who thought the whole thing was a hoax. The three people were "totally committed," she said, "and were hoping that their friends would understand." > > Reaction from people who knew Ms. Ujhelyi and Fiester in Ithaca was one of surprise at the news. Friends described them as "intelligent and rational" people whom they would not expect to be "taken in" easily. > > Ms. Ujhelyi's family was not religious, according to her sister Gabriel. Fiester, according to his mother, was raised to be religious, although he had not practiced any religion for several years. Mrs. Fiester said her son may be "trying to find something." She also said that she believed her son might be "brainwashed." > > Besides the letters to Ford and McHugh, Mr. Fiester has gone to see District Attorney Joseph Joch, but Joch was unavailable this morning for comment. > > Literature from the group, called by some the "Human Individual Metamorphosis" society, claims the group is not a religious, spiritual or philosophical organization. It claims it is "reality." > > Fiester said in one letter that news accounts of the group are "faulty." > > The two leaders of the group will be assassinated soon, the literature says, and will return after three days, when their followers will leave in a "space ship." > > The two leaders, identified by police as Marshall Herff Applewhite, 43, and Bonnie Lee Trousdale Nettles, 48, both have criminal records. Applewhite spent four months in jail in St. Louis for car theft, and Miss Nettles was charged in Houston on credit card abuse. No record of the disposition of her case exists. > > The whereabouts of the almost 90 disciples supposed to be with the couple is not known. > > Two lecturers are scheduled to hold a meeting tonight in Oakland , Calif., according to the Portland Oregonian newspaper. The meeting place, the Upstairs Art Association, said it knew nothing about the meeting, according to the Oregonian. The association said a Halloween benefit is planned there tonight. > > http://www.salon.com/march97/news/news970331.html > http://gaytoday.badpuppy.com/garchive/events/03317eva.htm > XXX > > ][<en > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:57:38 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: No draft dodger, she... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_181.17619099.2b894c52_boundary" --part1_181.17619099.2b894c52_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My loving people, we have been persuaded by some, that are careful of our safety, to take heed how we commit ourselves to armed multitudes, for fear of treachery; but I assure you, I do not desire to live to distrust my faithful and loving people. Let tyrants fear; I have always so behaved myself that, under God, I have placed my chiefest strength and safeguard in the loyal hearts and good will of my subjects. And therefore I am come amongst you at this time, not as for my recreation or sport, but being resolved, in the midst and heat of the battle, to live or die amongst you all; to lay down, for my God, and for my kingdom, and for my people, my honor and my blood, even the dust. I know I have but the body of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart of a king, and of a king of England, too; and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should dare to invade the borders of my realms: to which, rather than any dishonor should grow by me, I myself will take up arms; I myself will be your general, judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field. I know already, by your forwardness, that you have deserved rewards and crowns; and we do assure you, on the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. In the mean my lieutenant general shall be in my stead, than whom never prince commanded a more noble and worthy subject; not doubting by your obedience to my general, by your concord in the camp, and by your valor in the field, we shall shortly have a famous victory over the enemies of my God, of my kingdom, and of my people. Elizabeth I, 1588 --part1_181.17619099.2b894c52_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">My loving people, we have been persuaded by some, that= are careful of our safety, to take heed how we commit ourselves to armed mu= ltitudes, for fear of treachery; but I assure you, I do not desire to live t= o distrust my faithful and loving people. Let tyrants fear; I have always so= behaved myself that, under God, I have placed my chiefest strength and safe= guard in the loyal hearts and good will of my subjects. And therefore I am<I= > </I>come amongst you at this time, not as for my recreation or sport, but=20= being resolved, in the midst and heat of the battle, to live or die amongst=20= you all; to lay down, for my God, and for my kingdom, and for my people, my=20= honor and my blood, even the dust. I know I have but the body of a weak and=20= feeble woman; but I have the heart of a king, and of a king of England, too;= and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should d= are to invade the borders of my realms: to which, rather than any dishonor s= hould grow by me, I myself will take up arms; I myself will be your general,= judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field. I know alrea= dy, by your forwardness, that you have deserved rewards and crowns; and we d= o assure you, on the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. In the m= ean my lieutenant general shall be in my stead, than whom never prince comma= nded a more noble and worthy subject; not doubting by your obedience to my g= eneral, by your concord in the camp, and by your valor in the field, we shal= l shortly have a famous victory over the enemies of my God, of my kingdom, a= nd of my people. <BR> <B><BR> Elizabeth I, 1588 </B><BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_181.17619099.2b894c52_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:46:16 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_148.b3cd1f1.2b8965c8_boundary" --part1_148.b3cd1f1.2b8965c8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:21:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > What is the roof material; what condition are the soffits and facia in; > what is the grading like around the building; where will you place the > water instead of against the foundation; is the plaster damage below > grade; is there adequate ventilation; does the pointing or repointing > extend below grade? > What's the likelyhood that they are going to take the time or expend resources to have the gutters and downspouts periodically, and I don't mean every ten years, cleaned out - thereby preventing overflow onto the facade walls and other related troubles? Twybil --part1_148.b3cd1f1.2b8965c8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:21:42 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What is the roof material; what= condition are the soffits and facia in;<BR> what is the grading like around the building; where will you place the<BR> water instead of against the foundation; is the plaster damage below<BR> grade; is there adequate ventilation; does the pointing or repointing<BR> extend below grade?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> What's the likelyhood that they are going to take the time or expend resourc= es to have the gutters and downspouts periodically, and I don't mean every t= en years, cleaned out - thereby preventing overflow onto the facade walls an= d other related troubles?<BR> <BR> Twybil<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_148.b3cd1f1.2b8965c8_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:52:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e6.3648e24c.2b896751_boundary" --part1_e6.3648e24c.2b896751_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 1:30:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Speaking of war, were the NYers a > little nervous when the column of smoke rising from Staten Island? > Nah, we're gettin' used to this shit. Village Security Idiot --part1_e6.3648e24c.2b896751_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 1:30:08 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Speaking of war, were the NYers= a<BR> little nervous when the column of smoke rising from Staten Island?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Nah, we're gettin' used to this shit.<BR> <BR> Village Security Idiot</FONT></HTML> --part1_e6.3648e24c.2b896751_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:48:01 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 6:46:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > What's the likelyhood that they are going to take the time or expend resources to have the gutters and downspouts periodically, and I don't mean every ten years, cleaned out - thereby preventing overflow onto the facade walls and other > related troubles? Good point, Mr. T. Fuhgeddabout gutters. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:51:20 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 6:52:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Speaking of war, were the NYers a > little nervous when the column of smoke rising from Staten > Island?> > > Nah, we're gettin' used to this shit. As it happened, I was at the Dr's office (in Joisey) and think I was looking in the right direction, and didn't see anything. On the other hand, I was farther away this time and it was nowhere near as clear as Sept 11. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:17:18 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Speaking of war, were the NYers a little nervous when the column of smoke rising from Staten Island? CTB: My reaction to SI, RI, Chicago and S. Korea is, "We don't need terrorists. We are going to do ourselves in without them." ][<en -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:22:42 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Shuttle break up... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > The shuttle is that little white dot on the left. JH: Looks like Hale Bop to me! ][<en -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:34:40 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: UNH Library -- Truman? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > writes like this since...since...Truman? Sharpshooter: You mean like this? "I bet there'll be more bohunks and "Rooshans" up there than white men. I think it is a disgrace to the country for those fellows to be in it. If they had only stopped immigration about twenty or thirty years ago, the good Americans could all have had plenty of land and we'd have been an agricultural country forever. You know as long as a country is one of that kind, people are more independent and make better citizens. When it is made up of factories and large cities it soon becomes depressed and makes classes among people. Every farmer thinks he's as good as the President or perhaps a little bit better. When a man works for a boss, he is soon impressed with how small he is and how great the boss is until he actually believes it is so and that money makes the world go round. It does I guess in very large cities." HST ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:37:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: UNH Library -- Truman? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ac.111ac6bc.2b898dcc_boundary" --part1_1ac.111ac6bc.2b898dcc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:35:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Sharpshooter: You mean like this? > PLEASE tell us he wrote this about the turn of the century, or even as late as he went off to WWI and complained about all the Kikes in New York, and not any time after April 12, 1945. Ralph --part1_1ac.111ac6bc.2b898dcc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:35:40 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Sharpshooter: You mean like thi= s?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> PLEASE tell us he wrote this about the turn of the century, or even as late=20= as he went off to WWI and complained about all the Kikes in New York, and no= t any time after April 12, 1945.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1ac.111ac6bc.2b898dcc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:08:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_a.2d3b51db.2b899542_boundary" --part1_a.2d3b51db.2b899542_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="a.2d3b51db_alt_bound" --a.2d3b51db_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 6:47:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > What's the likelyhood that they are going to take the time or expend > resources to have the gutters and downspouts periodically, and I don't mean > every ten years, cleaned out - thereby preventing overflow onto the facade > walls and other related troubles? > Well, there was a red oak in the rear that was probably ten or twelve feet from the building. They recently cut it down so there are not any trees close to the building. You do have a good point though. I was talking to several members of the church and I believe they cleaned out the gutter in the rear about three years ago. Steve --a.2d3b51db_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY WIDTH=3D"72" HEIGHT=3D"100" SRC=3D"= cid:X.MA0.1045969730@aol.com" BACKGROUND=3D"cid:X.MA0.1045969730@aol.com" DA= TASIZE=3D"4124" ID=3D"MA0.1045969730"><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 6:47:04 PM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">What's the likelyho= od that they are going to take the time or expend resources to have the gutt= ers and downspouts periodically, and I don't mean every ten years, cleaned o= ut - thereby preventing overflow onto the facade walls and other related tro= ubles?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" F= ACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic San= s MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Well, there was a red oak in the rear that was probably ten or twelve feet f= rom the building. They recently cut it down so there are not any trees close= to the building. You do have a good point though. I was talking to several=20= members of the church and I believe they cleaned out the gutter in the rear=20= about three years ago.<BR> <BR> Steve </FONT></HTML> --a.2d3b51db_alt_bound-- --part1_a.2d3b51db.2b899542_boundary Content-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="Ricepaper.jpg" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAZABkAAD/7AARRHVja3kAAQAEAAAAZAAA/+4ADkFkb2JlAGTAAAAA Af/bAIQAAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQICAgIC AgICAgICAwMDAwMDAwMDAwEBAQEBAQECAQECAgIBAgIDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMD AwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMD/8AAEQgAZABIAwERAAIRAQMRAf/EAIEAAAID AQEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEAQIFAAYKAQEBAQEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQIDBBAAAwACAQQBAwMD BAMBAAAAAQIDERIEACEiEzFBFAVRMiNhMyRxgUJSoWI0FREAAgICAQQCAwEBAAAAAAAAAAER ITFBYfBRcQKBsZHB4RIi/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD7n+ItuZMteJXjeqZWQmXO6UvtNIqqs+yl C2AFyPkHv15IWjZustHSLqm2ktKbqm6lCJI1AXmAnizsoxnbHV8Ai3GLxRKxNcq9HdQKK7NW 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charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:09:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Well, there was a red oak in the rear that was probably ten or twelve feet > from the building. They recently cut it down so there are not any trees > close to the building. You do have a good point though. I was talking to > several members of the church and I believe they cleaned out the gutter in > the rear about three years ago. > Fortunately, leaves fall absolutely plumb and have never been known to blow around. Cleaning gutters every three years ought to be quite sufficient. Tell them they don't need to bathe any more often than that, either. But be sure to stay out of town for awhile. Ralph --part1_54.af20c70.2b899941_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:09:19 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Well, there was a red oak in the rear that was probabl= y ten or twelve feet from the building. They recently cut it down so there a= re not any trees close to the building. You do have a good point though. I w= as talking to several members of the church and I believe they cleaned out t= he gutter in the rear about three years ago.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Fortunately, leaves fall absolutely plumb and have never been known to blow=20= around.<BR> Cleaning gutters every three years ought to be quite sufficient. Tell=20= them they don't need to bathe any more often than that, either. But be= sure to stay out of town for awhile.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_54.af20c70.2b899941_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:29:41 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e1.2c5d4a4.2b899a25_boundary" --part1_1e1.2c5d4a4.2b899a25_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:26:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Fortunately, leaves fall absolutely plumb and have never been known to blow > around. > Nothing like a smawt ass. Steve --part1_1e1.2c5d4a4.2b899a25_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:26:19 PM Easte= rn Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Fortunately, leaves fall absolutely plumb and have never be= en known to blow around.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Nothing like a smawt ass.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e1.2c5d4a4.2b899a25_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:36:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_99.3391a650.2b899bc7_boundary" --part1_99.3391a650.2b899bc7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:30:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Nothing like a smawt ass. Nor a fart smeller, either. Ralph --part1_99.3391a650.2b899bc7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 10:30:33 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Nothing like a smawt ass.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT CO= LOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSS= ERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Nor a fart smeller, either. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_99.3391a650.2b899bc7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 02:41:21 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Winter Rain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > If it's raining as hard up at Ruths as it is here it won't be a slow melt. All the rivers are frozen too, it could get interesting. ctb in the Berkshires The Atlantic, close by, is often charged. Between the gusts of light to heavy rain we have had thunder and lightening to the south since early evening. ][<en -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:17:20 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Eve and Festus left the Hevens Gate folks shortly before they offed themselves. CTB: I appreciate the news... I've carried ouround the Ithaca Journal article since '75 and when I come across it I often wonder about the story behind the story. Eve I think we met through LRY at the Universalist Church -- that was something of a drug cult in itself. She always seemed to me high spirited and larger than life. Festus the one thing I remember in particular is his freaking one night out on a back road about UFO's & the buzzing of a power pole transformer. I think it was one of those nights the '55 Ford PU was acting up. Regardless, I would not characterize anyone, including myself, that I knew during that period as being particularly sensible. Festus was someone that you could be with for hours and feel comfortable as he was like a shadow along for the adventure. As to the Journal article, I'm very aware at how the newspapers distort information. ][<en -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:43:27 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Low Flying War of the Worlds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PiBTcGVha2luZyBvZiB3YXIsIHdlcmUgdGhlIE5ZZXJzIGEgbGl0dGxlIG5lcnZvdXMgd2hl biB0aGUgY29sdW1uIG9mIHNtb2tlIHJpc2luZyBmcm9tIFN0YXRlbiBJc2xhbmQ/CgpDVEI6 IFRoZSBmbGlnaHQgcGF0aCBmcm9tIEpGSyB0byBFdXJvcGUgaXMgYSBiaXQgc291dGggb2Yg dXMuIEdhcmliYWxkaSBjb21pbmcgZnJvbSBJdGFseSBwcm9iYWJseSB1c2VkIHRoZSByb3V0 ZSBvbiBoaXMgd2F5IHRvIEZsb3lkIEJlbm5ldCBGaWVsZCAoaWYgbm90IExpbmRiZXJnaCwg V3JvbmcgV2F5IENvcnJpZ2FuLCBFYXJoYXJ0ICYgSHVnaGVzIC0gb2JsaWdhdG9yeSBoaXN0 byBwcmVzdG8gY29udGVudCksIHByb3ZpbmcgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1lIHRoYXQgdGhl IEV1cm9wZWFuIHdhciBtYWNoaW5lIGNvdWxkIHJlYWNoIHRoZSBDb250aW5lbnRhbCBVUy4g V2h5IHRoZXkgd291bGQgd2FudCB0byBvdmVyZmx5IHNvIG1hbnkgSGFtcHRvbnMgcG9vbHMg aXMgYmV5b25kIG1lLiBXZSBhcmUgbm90IHRvbyBmYXIgZnJvbSB3aGVyZSBGbGlnaHQgODAw IHdlbnQgZG93bi4gQWN0dWFsbHksIGNoZWNraW5nIHRoZSB0b3BvLCB3ZSBhcmUganVzdCBh IGJpdCBvZmYgd2VzdCBmcm9tIGEgbGluZSBjb25uZWN0aW5nIEJyb29raGF2ZW4gTGFicyBh bmQgd2hlcmUgRmxpZ2h0IDgwMCBzcGxhc2hlZCBkb3duLiBPbmUgb2Ygb3VyIG5laWdoYm9y cyBjbGFpbXMgdG8gaGF2ZSBzZWVuIGEgZmxhc2ggb2YgYSBncm91bmQtdG8tYWlyIG1pc3Ns ZS4uLiBidXQgdGhleSBzZWUgYSBsb3Qgb2YgdGhpbmdzIHRoZSByZXN0IG9mIHVzIG1pc3Ms IHBvc3NpYmx5IHRoYXQgaXMgd2h5IHRoZXkgd29yayBhdCB0aGUgSVJTLiBBbmQgdGhlcmUg aXMgc3VwcG9zZWQgdG8gaGF2ZSBiZWVuIHRoZSBVRk8gc2hvdCBkb3duIGJ5IHRoZSBwcm90 b24gcGxhc21hIGd1biBhdCB0aGUgbGFiLiBUaGVyZSBpcyBhbHdheXMgYWlyIHRyYWZmaWMg b3ZlciB1cyBvZiBkaWZmZXJlbnQgc29ydHMsIGhpZ2ggYW5kIGxvdywgc29tZXRpbWVzIGNv bWluZyBpbiBmcm9tIHRoZSBOb3J0aGVhc3QuIE1pbGl0YXJ5IGFuZCBDb2FzdCBHdWFyZCBo ZWxpY29wdGVycyBhcyB3ZWxsLi4uIHRoZXkgcmF0dGxlIHRoZSBob3VzZSBhbmQgY29tZSBp biBub3QgdG8gaGlnaCBvdmVyIHRoZSB0cmVlcy4gU28gdGhlIGpldHMsIGxhdGUgYXQgbmln aHQgb24gc29tZSBuaWdodHMgdGhleSB3aWxsIHJvYXIgb3ZlcmhlYWQsIGxpa2UgYSBzZW1p IGRvd25zaGlmdGluZyBvbiBhIGxvbmcgaGlsbC4uLi4gYnVycCBidXJwIGJ1cnAuLi4gYW5k IEkgd2FrZSB1cCBpbiBhIHBhbmljLiBJdCBpcyBiYWQgZW5vdWdoIHdoZW4gdGhlIHJvdWdo IEF0bGFudGljIHNvdW5kcyBsaWtlIGEgZnJlaWdodCB0cmFpbiBhcHByb2FjaGluZy4gT3Ig d2hlbiB0aGUgc2t5IGlzIHNvIGNsZWFyIHRoYXQgeW91IGNhbiBtYWtlIG91dCB0aGUgbGln aHRzIHdpdGggcGVvcGxlLCBJIGltYWdpbmUgcGVvcGxlLCBsaWdodHMgd2l0aCBwZW9wbGUg aW4gdGhlbSBwYXNzaW5nIE9yaW9uJ3MgYmVsdC4gTm9ib2R5IGVsc2UgaW4gdGhlIGhvdXNl IGhlYXJzIHRoZW0uLi4gYnV0IG5laXRoZXIgZG8gdGhleSBoZWFyIHRoZSBkb2dzIGJhcmtp bmcgd2hlbiB3ZSBsZWF2ZSB0aGVtIG91dCB0b28gbG9uZyAob2JsaWdhdG9yeSBCaWxseSBD b2xsaW5zIGNvbnRlbnQpLiBJIGNvbm5lY3QgdGhpcyBpbiB3aXRoIG15IGZlYXIgb2YgVUZP IGFiZHVjdGlvbiBhbmQgSSBtYWtlIHN1cmUgdG8gbWFpbnRhaW4gbXkgZ2FzIGFzIGEgZGV0 ZXJlbnQgLS0gbm90ZSB0aGUgcHJvYmxlbXMgb2YgZ2FzIGR1cmluZyBhc3RyYWwgcHJvamVj dGlvbiBjb250ZXJhY3QgdGhlIGJlbmVmaXRzIG9mIGFiZHVjdGlvbiBhdm9pZGFuY2UuIFR3 byB0aGluZ3MgRVQncyBkb24ndCBsaWtlIGlzIGh1Z3MgYW5kIGdhcyAtLSBzbyBiZSByZWFs IHJlYWwgZnJpZW5kbHkgbmV4dCB0aW1lIGFuZCB0aGUgbGl0dGxlIGxpemFyZCBwZW9wbGUg d2lsbCBsZWFybiB0byBsZWF2ZSB5b3UgYWxvbmUhIE1ha2Ugc3VyZSB0byB0ZWxsIHlvdXIg Y2hpbGRyZW4gYmVmb3JlIGl0IGlzIHRvbyBsYXRlLiBXaGljaCByZW1pbmRzIG1lIHRvIG1l bnRpb24gdG8gYWxsIGFuZCBldmVyeW9uZSB0aGF0IGhhcyBhIGNvbmNlcm4gZm9yIHRoZWly IHNhZmV0eSBmcm9tIGFiZHVjdGlvbiBhbmQgcGh5c2ljYWwgaW52YXNpb24geW91IGNhbiBn ZXQgYSBjb3B5IG9mLCAiSG93IHRvIERlZmVuZCBZb3Vyc2VsZiBBZ2FpbnN0IEFsaWVuIEFi ZHVjdGlvbiwiIGJ5IEFubiBEcnVmZmVsLiBUaHJlZSBSaXZlcnMgUHJlc3MgSVNCTiAwNjA5 ODAyNjMxIEl0IHN1cmUgYmVhdHMgY291bnRpbmcgc2hlZXAgb3IgdGhlIGNvc3Qgb2YgaHlw bm90aWMgcmVncmVzc2lvbi4gXVs8ZW4K -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:05:42 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Rain, rain go away In-Reply-To: <00ab01c2daa4$fbf93460$21c2f63f@pavilion> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Snowed here most of the day but it was warm enough that it didn't stick til about 2 this afternoon. By about 4:30 it was sleet then rain, mostly just drizzle. The state trucks have been by with plows and salt and traffic seems to be moving right along. Sometimes ours goes slowly and sometimes really fast. We have our share of floods too, just usually later in the spring. If we have a lot of snow like this year and then a lot of rain and warm weather we get floods. Oh well, sugaring season is right around the corner, just about Town Meeting Day. You guys in the city wouldn't know about Town Meeting Day but it is a very important day up here when we get to do the town's business for the coming year. Ruth At 2:02 PM -0500 2/22/03, vgernet.net wrote: If it's raining as hard up at Ruths as it is here it won't be a slow melt. All the rivers are frozen too, it could get interesting. ctb in the Berkshires ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>Ken Follett To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution From the looks of it on the telly I think we already attacked Antarctica and they dumped snow on NYC &Washington, DC. Ruth up north where a two-footer is a snow squall. Ruth: Double whammy attack, now it is warming up too fast and it will all melt real quick and flood us out. Leastways my impression of Vermont is you get a relatively slow melt. Here, and south of there, it snows 24" and a week later it is all gone and the crocuses are blooming just in time for another snow fall and freeze. ][<en -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:07:47 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus In-Reply-To: <018f01c2daae$c004cd20$21c2f63f@pavilion> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" They sound quite the pair. Ruth At 3:11 PM -0500 2/22/03, vgernet.net wrote: >Eve and Festus left the Hevens Gate folks shortly before they offed >themselves. Festus is in Ithaca now, staying at the Hillside Inn last I >heard, don't know where Eve is. Although I consider Festus my friend, I >would have to question "Reaction from people who knew Ms. Ujhelyi and >Fiester in Ithaca was one of surprise at the news. Friends described them as >"intelligent and rational" people whom they would not expect to be "taken >in" easily." This was not my experiance with Mike. After he burned down his >parents house making french fries we shared a house during my saltmine >period. We also shared a cell one night, my sister bailed me out, but >wouldn't go for Festus. I remember the incident as something about a log, a >boa constrictor and my view of the consitution. >ctb raining harder going down to look at the river -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 07:41:54 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Rain, rain go away MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_152.1c38d95f.2b8a1b92_boundary" --part1_152.1c38d95f.2b8a1b92_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 6:51:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You guys in the city wouldn't know about Town Meeting Day but > it is a very important day up here when we get to do the town's business > for the coming year. Ruth, We've heard about Town Meetings (as the purest form of democracy, or some such), but I'm curious about how it is possible to conduct business in advance. Are there occasional, or regular scheduled follow-up meetings, or what? Ralph Ralph --part1_152.1c38d95f.2b8a1b92_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 6:51:06 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You guys in the city wouldn't k= now about Town Meeting Day but<BR> it is a very important day up here when we get to do the town's business<BR> for the coming year.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ruth,<BR> <BR> We've heard about Town Meetings (as the purest form of democracy, or some su= ch), but I'm curious about how it is possible to conduct business in advance= . Are there occasional, or regular scheduled follow-up meetings, or what?<BR= > <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_152.1c38d95f.2b8a1b92_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 09:04:19 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Shuttle break up... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe you can get on the return flight. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Follett" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Shuttle break up... > > The shuttle is that little white dot on the left. > > JH: Looks like Hale Bop to me! ][<en > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 09:23:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c8.58b4c3d.2b8a3375_boundary" --part1_1c8.58b4c3d.2b8a3375_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 7:52:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > As it happened, I was at the Dr's office (in Joisey) and think I was looking > in the right direction, and didn't see anything. On the other hand, I was > farther away this time and it was nowhere near as clear as Sept 11. > > Ralph- I heard the explosion and saw the smoke, but I thought Staten Island was just starting up its engine and moving down to the Outer Banks. VI --part1_1c8.58b4c3d.2b8a3375_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/2003 7:52:22 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">As it happened, I was at the Dr= 's office (in Joisey) and think I was looking in the right direction, and di= dn't see anything. On the other hand, I was farther away this time and= it was nowhere near as clear as Sept 11.<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ralph-<BR> <BR> I heard the explosion and saw the smoke, but I thought Staten Island was jus= t starting up its engine and moving down to the Outer Banks.<BR> <BR> VI</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c8.58b4c3d.2b8a3375_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 09:30:44 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_18b.168aac3f.2b8a3514_boundary" --part1_18b.168aac3f.2b8a3514_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve- Did they save the wood for me? After three years they should have had some nice oak saplings growing in that gutter. Twyb. --part1_18b.168aac3f.2b8a3514_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Steve-<BR> <BR> Did they save the wood for me? After three years they should have had=20= some nice oak saplings growing in that gutter.<BR> <BR> Twyb.</FONT></HTML> --part1_18b.168aac3f.2b8a3514_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 09:58:23 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]> Subject: NY Diary - Brooklyn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6c.2a7d1215.2b8a3b8f_boundary" --part1_6c.2a7d1215.2b8a3b8f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/03 10:57:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Candace (what the hell is MockChap - and did you have to take "5" because > 1-4 were already spoken for??): Mockchap5 was my first email account - ever - and everyone in the house used it, so we tried to cover all bases. MOCKCHAP5: Mock = short for Mockingbird Handcrafts (I paint, but rarely anymore); Chap = short for Chapman (maiden name / Very recognizable to family); 5 = number of immediate family members. Mockchap5 is my "list serve account" now - I save my other accounts for VIPs and check daily. BP and other lists get read from the "when I have time I'll get around to it" schedule. > --race and class: census returns, usually searchable by name only but see > below > --occupants: Ancestry has a digitized 1888 Brooklyn directory; you can > search for names, yes, but you can also keyword search for "Sterling". > Thank Allah that they didn't live on Smith Street > --you can determine occupancy by cross searching the Ancestry directory by > searching for specific addresses, and determining the number of names > returned > --with specific names, you can then search the digitized censuses to locate > those households (note: no census for1890, only 1880 and 1900) > --if you are too damn cheap to buy an 1880's Brooklyn atlas (showing sizes, > heights and lot coverage of buildings) on the web ($500 or so), many > research libraries have a microfiche set of American city landmaps (not > just maps, but landmaps aka atlases aka landbooks aka insurance maps) (see > www.nysoclib.org "Researching ..." for an illustration) > > I bet you're too lazy to do all this, 'cause why else would you be a BP > subscriber? > > Basic ancestry is $60/year. Or public library. Or hire us - $20 million > minimum, payable to our account in Nigeria Thank you for the On-Line resource. I'm often too lazy and most definitely too cheap to scoot off to NY, for this particular project anyway, to look up the Brooklyn directories. It might cost me as much as $25 ! to get there from here in CT. More if I drive and fill my car with gasoline instead of wheat paste. The Brooklyn connection , while critical, does not have to be as detailed as I would like re: building configuration; would be nice though to "know". CT libraries are not always abound with maps from other cities - of course, if I weren't so lazy, I might get around to checking whose got detailed city maps from them thar' foreign places outside of CT. Just so you know, I've have checked my research families' houses in CT and have found them all in the directories and maps here - like the ones you describe. Now that you've provided an on-line source I'll check it out from my comfy abode. Thank you for assistance. You will not be hired at this time, however, for your trouble I will send a check for $1 million to your Nigerian account. > Our Motto: Old Buildings, Dead Architects Live Buildings, Dead custodians --part1_6c.2a7d1215.2b8a3b8f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/22/03 10:57:27 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCIT= E style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0= px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Candace (what the hell is MockChap - and did you have= to take "5" because 1-4 were already spoken for??):</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#= 000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE= =3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Mockchap5 was my first email account - ever - and everyone in the house used= it, so we tried to cover all bases.<BR> MOCKCHAP5: Mock =3D short for Mockingbird Handcrafts (I paint, but ra= rely anymore); Chap =3D short for Chapman (maiden name / Very recognizable t= o family); 5 =3D number of immediate family members.<BR> Mockchap5 is my "list serve account" now - I save my other accounts for VIPs= and check daily. BP and other lists get read from the "when I have ti= me I'll get around to it" schedule.<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">--race and class: census=20= returns, usually searchable by name only but see below<BR> --occupants: Ancestry has a digitized 1888 Brooklyn directory; you can= search for names, yes, but you can also keyword search for "Sterling". = ; Thank Allah that they didn't live on Smith Street<BR> --you can determine occupancy by cross searching the Ancestry directory by s= earching for specific addresses, and determining the number of names returne= d<BR> --with specific names, you can then search the digitized censuses to locate=20= those households (note: no census for1890, only 1880 and 1900)<BR> --if you are too damn cheap to buy an 1880's Brooklyn atlas (showing sizes,=20= heights and lot coverage of buildings) on the web ($500 or so), many r= esearch libraries have a microfiche set of American city landmaps (not just=20= maps, but landmaps aka atlases aka landbooks aka insurance maps) (see=20= www.nysoclib.org "Researching ..." for an illustration)<BR> <BR> I bet you're too lazy to do all this, 'cause why else would you be a B= P subscriber?<BR> <BR> Basic ancestry is $60/year. Or public library. Or hire us - $20=20= million minimum, payable to our account in Nigeria</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00= 0000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Thank you for the On-L= ine resource. I'm often too lazy and most definitely too cheap to scoo= t off to NY, for this particular project anyway, to look up the Brooklyn dir= ectories. It might cost me as much as $25 ! to get there from here in CT. Mo= re if I drive and fill my car with gasoline instead of wheat paste. The Broo= klyn connection , while critical, does not have to be as detailed as I would= like re: building configuration; would be nice though to "know". CT l= ibraries are not always abound with maps from other cities - of course, if I= weren't so lazy, I might get around to checking whose got detailed city map= s from them thar' foreign places outside of CT.<BR> Just so you know, I've have checked my research families' houses in CT and h= ave found them all in the directories and maps here - like the ones you desc= ribe. <BR> <BR> Now that you've provided an on-line source I'll check it out from my comfy a= bode.<BR> Thank you for assistance. You will not be hired at this time, however, for y= our trouble I will send a check for $1 million to your Nigerian account. <BR= > <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Our Motto: Old Buildings,= Dead Architects </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:=20= #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"></BLO= CKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Live Buildings, Dead custodians<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_6c.2a7d1215.2b8a3b8f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:22:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_aa.18d26fb2.2b8a4118_boundary" --part1_aa.18d26fb2.2b8a4118_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Twybil, Oh, you need some oak saplings? Let me step out into my back yard. What would you like? Southern pine, red oak, white oak, or palmetto? Although I don't think the palmettos will do so well. Sign me, High of 64 --part1_aa.18d26fb2.2b8a4118_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Twybil,<BR> <BR> Oh, you need some oak saplings? Let me step out into my back yard. What woul= d you like? Southern pine, red oak, white oak, or palmetto? Although I don't= think the palmettos will do so well. <BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> High of 64</FONT></HTML> --part1_aa.18d26fb2.2b8a4118_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:27:14 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: NY Diary - Brooklyn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b8.3a2b1423.2b8a4252_boundary" --part1_b8.3a2b1423.2b8a4252_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 9:59:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Candace, We Pinheads are comforted by the fact that we sit so high amongst your priorities. Thanks a lot. Sign me, When I get around to it > Mockchap5 is my "list serve account" now - I save my other accounts for VIPs > and check daily. BP and other lists get read from the "when I have time > I'll get around to it" schedule. > --part1_b8.3a2b1423.2b8a4252_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 9:59:22 AM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> Candace,<BR> <BR> We Pinheads are comforted by the fact that we sit so high amongst your prior= ities. Thanks a lot.<BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> When I get around to it<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Mockchap5 is my "list serve account" now - I save my=20= other accounts for VIPs and check daily. BP and other lists get read f= rom the "when I have time I'll get around to it" schedule.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_b8.3a2b1423.2b8a4252_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 07:54:38 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Now will somebody please look these two up and find out what happened to them. Then again maybe not, it would take all the romance out of it to find Eve is a comfortable matron with four kids and two dogs and a member of the school board to boot, is small town America. Ruth At 3:17 AM -0500 2/23/03, Ken Follett wrote: >> Eve and Festus left the Hevens Gate folks shortly before they offed >>themselves. > >CTB: I appreciate the news... I've carried ouround the Ithaca Journal >article since '75 and when I come across it I often wonder about the story >behind the story. Eve I think we met through LRY at the Universalist >Church -- that was something of a drug cult in itself. She always seemed >to me high spirited and larger than life. Festus the one thing I remember >in particular is his freaking one night out on a back road about UFO's & >the buzzing of a power pole transformer. I think it was one of those >nights the '55 Ford PU was acting up. Regardless, I would not characterize >anyone, including myself, that I knew during that period as being >particularly sensible. Festus was someone that you could be with for hours >and feel comfortable as he was like a shadow along for the adventure. As >to the Journal article, I'm very aware at how the newspapers distort >information. ][<en > >-- >To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ><http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:51:43 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: NY Diary - Brooklyn Mighty Oaks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 10:27:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > We Pinheads are comforted by the fact that we sit so high > amongst your priorities. Thanks a lot. Steve (and Candace), I was thinking the same thing about her backwards priorities, but maybe we should'nt expect too much from somebody who fills her car with wheat paste instead of gasoline. As for wheat paste and oak saplings, I noted a few days ago that Mrs. Ralph has a gigantic plastic bottle full of a vitamin supplement called Quercitin + C, with a rather abstract-looking photo on it that looked to me like a piece of split oak stump, and another of what looked like quartered oak veneer. The label said it was all natural (of course) and citrus free. The "quer" part of the name of this stuff made me wonder whether they had adapted the name from some variation of Latin for "oak," so I looked it up. Turns out that quercitin is the legitimate name for the bottom layer of the bark of the oak tree. So Mrs. Ralph is taking sawdust pills. The boys at Stalag 17 (and 13) would be so pleased to know the Krauts were providing them vitamin-enriched health loaves, and not just bread made with sawdust. So Steve, save those oak saplings; Twybil probably has lumber rather than health food in mind. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:59:39 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 10:54:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Now will somebody please look these two up and find out what happened to them. Then again maybe not, it would take all the romance out of it to find Eve is a comfortable matron with four kids and two dogs and a member of the school board to boot, is small town America. Ruth, If Eve and Fester (or Fungus, Flergus, Fetus, Flatus or whatever his name is) were of any interest, they'd be Pinheads today, not mere long-lost ex-acquaintances of Ken. I have a feeling we're better off with abbreviated second-hand stories about them than their own first-hand accounts of Heaven's Gate and Flying Saucers (rectal probes, anyone?). Just my opinion. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 13:01:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e4.2d34c9b.2b8a6665_boundary" --part1_1e4.2d34c9b.2b8a6665_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 9:24:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I heard the explosion and saw the smoke, but I thought Staten Island was > just starting up its engine and moving down to the Outer Banks. > We should be so lucky. Ralph --part1_1e4.2d34c9b.2b8a6665_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 9:24:27 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I heard the explosion and saw t= he smoke, but I thought Staten Island was just starting up its engine and mo= ving down to the Outer Banks.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> We should be so lucky.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e4.2d34c9b.2b8a6665_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:40:45 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Master Peter from New Zealand (excerpted)... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_177.1674d53d.2b8a7dbd_boundary" --part1_177.1674d53d.2b8a7dbd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...donations accepted at www.TeenagerWithoutCash.ATM. In a message dated 2/23/03 1:27:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, YIPPee007 writes: > > The last week has been quite hectic--staying in places overnight and then > off again. The last contact I made was on my birthday when we were resting > up at the Awaroa Lodge in Abel Tasman National Park after two days of sea > kayaking. > > The next day we hiked out to our kayak with our only belongings in thick > plastic bags over our shoulders. We waded across the little inlet, the > water swirling around our legs so it felt like you were walking on a tight > rope. > > The kayak back down the coast was much more enjoyable as we had the wind at > our backs and were able even to catch a few waves--gliding down the small > bubbling faces. > > Since then it has been a bus, then the ferry over to Wellington--a great > dinner there at a place called MondoCucina--then a quick flight up to > Auckland where we departed from today in a rented car. So . . . tonight > finds me in Raglan a small surfing town on the West Coast an hour south of > Auckland. I went out for two hours this afternoon at wanganuri > beach--beautifully wide and endless with black sand and very clean breaks. > We're staying in a hotel/hostel where you stay in converted train cars. We > have one all to ourselves. It's set up on one of the high hills overlooking > the beach. Today it was gray all around except in the South West where > little whip cream clouds slowly moved across a brilliant blue sky, like a > herd of elephants. A maori missing all of his front teeth with a huge > matted black mane down six inches below his shoulders encouraged me after I > mentioned I hadn't surfed for a few months: "Na, bwai, yoo niver loose it, > yoo niver ken loose it." > > I almost forgot--Bob Dylan was great last night. He even played piano! I > think it might even have been the best concert of his I've seen. He > alternated between his new stuff--all spotless and great, sweeping versions > of his country love songs--"It ain't me babe," "Tonight I'll be staying > here with you", along with "Forever Young" and "Positively 4th Street." > > Tomorrow on to Waitomo for caving, then Rotorua for Zorbing [getting in a > giant plastic ball and then being rolled down a ski slope] then back up to > AKL for two final days hopefully getting out to see some of the racing. > > For the record, I am now officially out of money and miss you. --part1_177.1674d53d.2b8a7dbd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">...donations accepted at www.TeenagerWithoutCash= .ATM.<BR> <BR> <BR> In a message dated 2/23/03 1:27:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, YIPPee007 write= s:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE styl= e=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PA= DDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> The last week has been quite hectic--staying in places overnight and then of= f again. The last contact I made was on my birthday when we were resting up=20= at the Awaroa Lodge in Abel Tasman National Park after two days of sea kayak= ing. <BR> <BR> The next day we hiked out to our kayak with our only belongings in thick pla= stic bags over our shoulders. We waded across the little inlet, the water sw= irling around our legs so it felt like you were walking on a tight rope.<BR> <BR> The kayak back down the coast was much more enjoyable as we had the wind at=20= our backs and were able even to catch a few waves--gliding down the small bu= bbling faces.<BR> <BR> Since then it has been a bus, then the ferry over to Wellington--a great din= ner there at a place called MondoCucina--then a quick flight up to Auckland=20= where we departed from today in a rented car. So . . . tonight finds me in R= aglan a small surfing town on the West Coast an hour south of Auckland. I we= nt out for two hours this afternoon at wanganuri beach--beautifully wide and= endless with black sand and very clean breaks. We're staying in a hotel/hos= tel where you stay in converted train cars. We have one all to ourselves. It= 's set up on one of the high hills overlooking the beach. Today it was gray=20= all around except in the South West where little whip cream clouds slowly mo= ved across a brilliant blue sky, like a herd of elephants. A maori missing a= ll of his front teeth with a huge matted black mane down six inches below hi= s shoulders encouraged me after I mentioned I hadn't surfed for a few months= : "Na, bwai, yoo niver loose it, yoo niver ken loose it."<BR> <BR> I almost forgot--Bob Dylan was great last night. He even played piano! I thi= nk it might even have been the best concert of his I've seen. He alternated=20= between his new stuff--all spotless and great, sweeping versions of his coun= try love songs--"It ain't me babe," "Tonight I'll be staying here with you",= along with "Forever Young" and "Positively 4th Street."<BR> <BR> Tomorrow on to Waitomo for caving, then Rotorua for Zorbing [getting in a gi= ant plastic ball and then being rolled down a ski slope] then back up to AKL= for two final days hopefully getting out to see some of the racing.<BR> <BR> For the record, I am now officially out of money and miss you. </BLOCKQUOTE>= <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_177.1674d53d.2b8a7dbd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:59:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: NY Diary - Brooklyn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_74.2b1c607c.2b8a822b_boundary" --part1_74.2b1c607c.2b8a822b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/03 10:28:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > We Pinheads are comforted by the fact that we sit so high amongst your > priorities. Thanks a lot. > > Sign me, > When I get around to it > Ah but you must understand. The BPrs are so infinitely fascinating, that I don't want to miss a single post. I don't want to "rush" you see. Therefore, "when I get around to it" is when I can be assured of a big mug of coffee, my feet well rested and time I can devote my whole attention to the discourse. Signed, I got around to it --part1_74.2b1c607c.2b8a822b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/03 10:28:07 AM Eastern Standar= d Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE= style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0p= x; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">We Pinheads are comforted by the fact that we sit so h= igh amongst your priorities. Thanks a lot.<BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> When I get around to it<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ah but you must understand. The BPrs are so infinitely fascinating, th= at I don't want to miss a single post. I don't want to "rush" you see. There= fore, "when I get around to it" is when I can be assured of a big mug of cof= fee, my feet well rested and time I can devote my whole attention to the dis= course. <BR> <BR> Signed,<BR> I got around to it</FONT></HTML> --part1_74.2b1c607c.2b8a822b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 16:40:54 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "vgernet.net" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LRY(Liberal Religious Youth) was not a drug cult, but the opposite. We made our own rules against using drugs and alcohol during meetings or events and followed them. Many of us, like the whole society, were gonzos, but not there. I consider my time there well spent, in fact it was great. Speaking of Festus, I remember working with him for his dad unloading bagged cement at Cayuga Lumber. Part of that facility was an immense woodworking mill, complete with planers, gang saws, band saws, ect , all operated by complex leather belt and pulley system. I don't remember the power plant , but it could have been water at one time. All gone when flood control project came through.ctb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Follett" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:17 AM Subject: Re: Eve & Festus > > Eve and Festus left the Hevens Gate folks shortly before they offed themselves. > > CTB: I appreciate the news... I've carried ouround the Ithaca Journal article since '75 and when I come across it I often wonder about the story behind the story. Eve I think we met through LRY at the Universalist Church -- that was something of a drug cult in itself. She always seemed to me high spirited and larger than life. Festus the one thing I remember in particular is his freaking one night out on a back road about UFO's & the buzzing of a power pole transformer. I think it was one of those nights the '55 Ford PU was acting up. Regardless, I would not characterize anyone, including myself, that I knew during that period as being particularly sensible. Festus was someone that you could be with for hours and feel comfortable as he was like a shadow along for the adventure. As to the Journal article, I'm very aware at how the newspapers distort information. ][<en > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 16:53:47 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1891 Handwritten New York City Diary/SharpMock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Candice Brashears > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:33 AM >=20 > Speaking of Brooklyn: anyone know about Sterling (Street?)=20 > near front entrance (GAR Plaza) at Prospect Park? I'd like to=20 > know what kind of neighborhood (guess its was very white=20 > middleclass) and buildings (I think multistoried -perhaps=20 > close together) as it was around 1880-1889? The family I'm=20 > researching moved there from Brooklyn Heights around that=20 > time to give their 3 kids more outdoor space... Do you guys have access to Sanborn Fire Insurance maps there? This is = the best way I know to get at the physical structures and their = evolution. By comparing them year to year, you can see how a parcel = changed over time. Once you get the legend figured out, they are = incredibly detailed, right down to the number of windows on a fa=E7ade, = where the doors are, the material of the roof, etc. They were producing = maps for Raleigh in the 1890s, so they surely were well-detailed for NYC = during that decade. __________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Oh joy! Rapture! Now Raleigh Historic I have a brain!" Districts Commission - Scarecrow [log in to unmask] =20 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 16:56:41 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2DB86.7295AC72" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DB86.7295AC72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 -----Original Message----- From: Mike Devonshire Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:24 AM In a message dated 2/22/2003 7:52:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: As it happened, I was at the Dr's office (in Joisey) and think I was looking in the right direction, and didn't see anything. On the other hand, I was farther away this time and it was nowhere near as clear as Sept 11. I heard the explosion and saw the smoke, but I thought Staten Island was just starting up its engine and moving down to the Outer Banks. I'm pretty sure that the natives of the Outer Banks would object to this. They might turn off the lighthouse and hope for a wreck in the Graveyard of the Atlantic.=20 =20 ________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Dagnabit Muskie, who dropped Raleigh Historic the cotton pickin' curtain on Districts Commission my toe bone?" =20 [log in to unmask] - Deputy Dawg 919/890-3678=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DB86.7295AC72 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2713.1100" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mike = Devonshire<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:24=20 AM<BR><BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT lang=3D0 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>In a message dated 2/22/2003 7:52:22 PM Eastern Standard = Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As it happened, I was at the = Dr's office=20 (in Joisey) and think I was looking in the right direction, and = didn't see=20 anything. On the other hand, I was farther away this time and = it was=20 nowhere near as clear as Sept 11.</FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT = size=3D2><BR>I heard the explosion and saw the smoke, but I thought = Staten=20 Island was just starting up its engine and moving down to the Outer=20 Banks.</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D267245421-23022003><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff>I'm pretty sure that the natives of the Outer Banks = would object=20 to this. They might turn off the lighthouse and hope for a wreck in the=20 Graveyard of the Atlantic.</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D267245421-23022003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT><SPAN class=3D267245421-23022003><!-- Converted from = text/plain format --> <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2>________________________________________________<BR>Dan = Becker, =20 Exec. Dir. "Dagnabit Muskie, who dropped<BR>Raleigh=20 Historic <SPAN= =20 class=3D267245421-23022003> </SPAN> the cotton = pickin'=20 curtain on<BR>Districts Commission <SPAN=20 class=3D267245421-23022003> </SPAN> my = toe=20 bone?" &= nbsp; <BR>[log in to unmask] = &= nbsp; =20 - Deputy Dawg<BR>919/890-3678=20 </FONT></P></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DB86.7295AC72-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:03:29 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Master Peter from New Zealand (excerpted)... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2DB87.660E4158" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DB87.660E4158 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 -----Original Message----- From: Met History Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:41 PM ...donations accepted at www.TeenagerWithoutCash.ATM. In a message dated 2/23/03 1:27:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, YIPPee007 writes: we were resting up at the Awaroa Lodge in Abel Tasman National Park=20 We're staying in a hotel/hostel where you stay in converted train cars. We have one all to ourselves. =20 At least he didn't set off any of Irene's dirty little filters; he's much better at inference than Ralph.... _______________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir., "Help me, Mr. Wizard! I don't Raleigh Historic want to be here anymore!" Districts Commission - Tooter the Turtle [log in to unmask] 919/890-3678=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DB87.660E4158 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2713.1100" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Met=20 History<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:41=20 PM<BR><BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">...donations = accepted at=20 www.TeenagerWithoutCash.ATM.<BR><BR><BR>In a message dated 2/23/03 = 1:27:14 AM=20 Eastern Standard Time, YIPPee007 writes:<BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" color=3D#000000 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE"> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><FONT = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>we were resting up at the Awaroa = Lodge in=20 Abel Tasman National Park <BR><BR>We're staying in a hotel/hostel = where you=20 stay in converted train cars. We have one all to = ourselves. <SPAN=20 class=3D642120022-23022003><FONT=20 = color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT= E> <DIV><SPAN class=3D642120022-23022003><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>At = least he=20 didn't set off any of Irene's dirty little filters; he's much better at=20 inference than Ralph....</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D642120022-23022003> <P><FONT size=3D2>_______________________________________________<BR>Dan = Becker, Exec. Dir., "Help me, Mr. Wizard! I=20 don't<BR>Raleigh=20 Historic  = ; <SPAN=20 class=3D642120022-23022003><FONT color=3D#0000ff> =20 </FONT></SPAN>want to be here anymore!"<BR>Districts=20 Commission &nb= sp; =20 - Tooter the Turtle<BR>[log in to unmask] <BR>919/890-3678</FONT>=20 </P></SPAN></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#000000=20 FAMILY=3D"SERIF"></DIV></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DB87.660E4158-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:01:57 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Or my backyard for maple, birch, beech, pine or hemlock. Ruth At 10:22 AM -0500 2/23/03, [log in to unmask] wrote: Twybil, Oh, you need some oak saplings? Let me step out into my back yard. What would you like? Southern pine, red oak, white oak, or palmetto? Although I don't think the palmettos will do so well. Sign me, High of 64 -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:40:27 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: NY Diary - Brooklyn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_73.2dd41a59.2b8ab5eb_boundary" --part1_73.2dd41a59.2b8ab5eb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 3:00:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ah but you must understand. The BPrs are so infinitely fascinating, that I > don't want to miss a single post. I don't want to "rush" you see. > Therefore, "when I get around to it" is when I can be assured of a big mug > of coffee, my feet well rested and time I can devote my whole attention to > the discourse. > Ralph, what do you think? --part1_73.2dd41a59.2b8ab5eb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 3:00:48 PM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">Ah but you must understand. The BPrs are so infinitel= y fascinating, that I don't want to miss a single post. I don't want to "rus= h" you see. Therefore, "when I get around to it" is when I can be assured of= a big mug of coffee, my feet well rested and time I can devote my whole att= ention to the discourse. <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ralph, what do you think?</FONT></HTML> --part1_73.2dd41a59.2b8ab5eb_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:08:33 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mary Krugman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Fwd: 1891 Handwritten New York City Diary/SharpMock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_17b.16aa70e2.2b8aca91_boundary" --part1_17b.16aa70e2.2b8aca91_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_17b.16aa70e2.2b8aca91_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Full-name: MDK10 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:08:06 EST Subject: Re: 1891 Handwritten New York City Diary/SharpMock To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part2_17b.16aa70e2.2b8aca76_boundary" X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 234 --part2_17b.16aa70e2.2b8aca76_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 4:54:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >From: Candice Brashears > >Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:33 AM > > > >Speaking of Brooklyn: anyone know about Sterling (Street?) > >near front entrance (GAR Plaza) at Prospect Park? I'd like to > >know what kind of neighborhood (guess its was very white > >middleclass) and buildings (I think multistoried -perhaps > >close together) as it was around 1880-1889? The family I'm > >researching moved there from Brooklyn Heights around that > >time to give their 3 kids more outdoor space... > > Do you guys have access to Sanborn Fire Insurance maps there? You can get Sanborns online from <A HREF="http://edrnet.com/">http://edrnet.com/</A> You need to set up an account, but you can get a full Sanborn series on most properties. Julip --part2_17b.16aa70e2.2b8aca76_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 4:54:26 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">>From: Candice Brashears<BR> >Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:33 AM<BR> ><BR> >Speaking of Brooklyn: anyone know about Sterling (Street?) <BR> >near front entrance (GAR Plaza) at Prospect Park? I'd like to <BR> >know what kind of neighborhood (guess its was very white <BR> >middleclass) and buildings (I think multistoried -perhaps <BR> >close together) as it was around 1880-1889? The family I'm <BR> >researching moved there from Brooklyn Heights around that <BR> >time to give their 3 kids more outdoor space...<BR> <BR> Do you guys have access to Sanborn Fire Insurance maps there? </BLOCKQUOTE><= BR> <BR> You can get Sanborns online from<BR> <BR> <A HREF=3D"http://edrnet.com/">http://edrnet.com/</A><BR> <BR> You need to set up an account, but you can get a full Sanborn series on most= properties. <BR> <BR> Julip</FONT></HTML> --part2_17b.16aa70e2.2b8aca76_boundary-- --part1_17b.16aa70e2.2b8aca91_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:53:11 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cb.2ffffe71.2b8ad507_boundary" --part1_cb.2ffffe71.2b8ad507_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 10:22:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Oh, you need some oak saplings? No Steve, I was thinking about the 2' wide 5/4 pieces of red oak from the probably 200 year old tree they cut down. I'll pick them up. Thanks, Twybil --part1_cb.2ffffe71.2b8ad507_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 10:22:56 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE= style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0p= x; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Oh, you need some oak saplings?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> No Steve, I was thinking about the 2' wide 5/4 pieces of red oak from the pr= obably 200 year old tree they cut down. I'll pick them up.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> <BR> Twybil</FONT></HTML> --part1_cb.2ffffe71.2b8ad507_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:55:17 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cc.376279d.2b8ad585_boundary" --part1_1cc.376279d.2b8ad585_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 4:57:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > They might turn off the lighthouse and hope for a wreck in the Graveyard of > the Atlantic. > > Dan, Yeah, I guess that's an idea. Twyb. --part1_1cc.376279d.2b8ad585_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 4:57:59 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE styl= e=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PA= DDING-LEFT: 5px">They might turn off the lighthouse and hope for a wreck in=20= the Graveyard of the Atlantic.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKG= ROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0= "> <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Dan,<BR> Yeah, I guess that's an idea. <BR> <BR> Twyb.</FONT></HTML> --part1_1cc.376279d.2b8ad585_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:57:33 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a1.114ae3a7.2b8ad60d_boundary" --part1_1a1.114ae3a7.2b8ad60d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 8:53:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I was thinking about the 2' wide 5/4 pieces of red oak from the probably 200 > year old tree they cut down. I'll pick them up. > Twybil, I think you're a day late and a dollar short. I'm not sure how old the tree was. The diameter did not seem that large. I will count the growth rings the next time I am up there. Steve --part1_1a1.114ae3a7.2b8ad60d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 8:53:47 PM Easter= n Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">I was thinking about the 2' wide 5/4 pieces of red oak from= the probably 200 year old tree they cut down. I'll pick them up.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Twybil,<BR> <BR> I think you're a day late and a dollar short. I'm not sure how old the tree=20= was. The diameter did not seem that large. I will count the growth rings the= next time I am up there.<BR> <BR> Steve</FONT></HTML> --part1_1a1.114ae3a7.2b8ad60d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:23:43 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Master Peter from New Zealand (excerpted)... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ah, to be young and fearless again!!!!!! Zorbing sounds a blast, I never could master skiing. I wanted to jump but my brother said I had to learn to ski first. Much later, too late, I learned that most jumpers don't know how to ski well at all. Most jumpers aren't female either. Ruth At 2:40 PM -0500 2/23/03, Met History wrote: ...donations accepted at www.TeenagerWithoutCash.ATM. In a message dated 2/23/03 1:27:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, YIPPee007 writes: The last week has been quite hectic--staying in places overnight and then off again. The last contact I made was on my birthday when we were resting up at the Awaroa Lodge in Abel Tasman National Park after two days of sea kayaking. The next day we hiked out to our kayak with our only belongings in thick plastic bags over our shoulders. We waded across the little inlet, the water swirling around our legs so it felt like you were walking on a tight rope. The kayak back down the coast was much more enjoyable as we had the wind at our backs and were able even to catch a few waves--gliding down the small bubbling faces. Since then it has been a bus, then the ferry over to Wellington--a great dinner there at a place called MondoCucina--then a quick flight up to Auckland where we departed from today in a rented car. So . . . tonight finds me in Raglan a small surfing town on the West Coast an hour south of Auckland. I went out for two hours this afternoon at wanganuri beach--beautifully wide and endless with black sand and very clean breaks. We're staying in a hotel/hostel where you stay in converted train cars. We have one all to ourselves. It's set up on one of the high hills overlooking the beach. Today it was gray all around except in the South West where little whip cream clouds slowly moved across a brilliant blue sky, like a herd of elephants. A maori missing all of his front teeth with a huge matted black mane down six inches below his shoulders encouraged me after I mentioned I hadn't surfed for a few months: "Na, bwai, yoo niver loose it, yoo niver ken loose it." I almost forgot--Bob Dylan was great last night. He even played piano! I think it might even have been the best concert of his I've seen. He alternated between his new stuff--all spotless and great, sweeping versions of his country love songs--"It ain't me babe," "Tonight I'll be staying here with you", along with "Forever Young" and "Positively 4th Street." Tomorrow on to Waitomo for caving, then Rotorua for Zorbing [getting in a giant plastic ball and then being rolled down a ski slope] then back up to AKL for two final days hopefully getting out to see some of the racing. For the record, I am now officially out of money and miss you. -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:17:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Workshop: Historic Wood Draft Board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_105.2892d3f0.2b8ada9c_boundary" --part1_105.2892d3f0.2b8ada9c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 4:57:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I'm pretty sure that the natives of the Outer Banks would object to this. > They might turn off the lighthouse and hope for a wreck in the Graveyard of > the Atlantic. > We current neighbors of Staten Island would hope for the same thing. Remember the New York garbage barge that wandered the 7 Seas a few years back? Let's just say the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Ralph --part1_105.2892d3f0.2b8ada9c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 4:57:59 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">I'm pretty sure that the natives of the Outer Banks would o= bject to this. They might turn off the lighthouse and hope for a wreck in th= e Graveyard of the Atlantic.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGRO= UND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">= <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> We current neighbors of Staten Island would hope for the same thing. R= emember the New York garbage barge that wandered the 7 Seas a few years back= ? Let's just say the apple didn't fall far from the tree.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_105.2892d3f0.2b8ada9c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:17:36 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Master Peter from New Zealand (excerpted)... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1eb.2bd26ba.2b8adac0_boundary" --part1_1eb.2bd26ba.2b8adac0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 5:04:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > he's much better at inference than Ralph.... There's high praise if I ever heard it. Ralph --part1_1eb.2bd26ba.2b8adac0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 5:04:28 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"a= rial" LANG=3D"0">he's much better at inference than Ralph....</BLOCKQUOTE></= FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 F= AMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> There's high praise if I ever heard it.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1eb.2bd26ba.2b8adac0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:25:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: NY Diary - Brooklyn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_105.2893b007.2b8adc9e_boundary" --part1_105.2893b007.2b8adc9e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 6:41:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ralph, what do you think? Steve, Actually, I started to answer this one earlier today, and decided "screw it." I know it's hard to believe. Ralph --part1_105.2893b007.2b8adc9e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 6:41:10 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Ralph, what do you think?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00000= 0" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Steve,<BR> <BR> Actually, I started to answer this one earlier today, and decided "screw it.= " I know it's hard to believe.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_105.2893b007.2b8adc9e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:35:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter - and another thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_105.2893b024.2b8adf09_boundary" --part1_105.2893b024.2b8adf09_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 8:53:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > No Steve, I was thinking about the 2' wide 5/4 pieces of red oak from the > probably 200 year old tree they cut down. I'll pick them up. > > Twy, Don't forget to take Staten Island with you. Ralph --part1_105.2893b024.2b8adf09_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 8:53:47 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">No Steve, I was thinking about=20= the 2' wide 5/4 pieces of red oak from the probably 200 year old tree they c= ut down. I'll pick them up.<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Twy,<BR> <BR> Don't forget to take Staten Island with you.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_105.2893b024.2b8adf09_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:38:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Master Peter from New Zealand (excerpted)... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_133.1b940ef8.2b8adf8f_boundary" --part1_133.1b940ef8.2b8adf8f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 9:09:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Most jumpers aren't female either. The females are too smart. Ralph --part1_133.1b940ef8.2b8adf8f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 9:09:41 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Most jumpers aren't female eith= er. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> The females are too smart.<BR> <BR> Ralph </FONT></HTML> --part1_133.1b940ef8.2b8adf8f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:47:00 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Low Flying War of the Worlds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Low Flying War of the Worlds "Actually, checking the topo, we are just a bit off west from a line connecting Brookhaven Labs and where Flight 800...." Ken, Are you suggesting a new historic preservation realm - famous air spaces. Out here in the West, historic trails are the current growth industry for historians and consultants and adventure tourism. Researching them, finding the trail remains, restoring and reopening them as biking/hiking paths and linking them with commercial tourism ventures is all the rage. What was once a dirty old rail road track or overgrown brushy pack horse route through a swamp is now am picturesque historic experience. At the coast near Vancouver, there was currently a bit of front page controversy about what is junk and what is an historic experience. A scuba diving holiday group wants to sink a large air liner as an artificial reef play place for recreational diving. They already have sunk a big war ship and some other stuff and are claiming worldwide status as a great place to see stuff while diving. To some, the macabre aspect of an airliner broken up and under water is not a happy use of the place or the object. After reading your note, the image of not only demarked and celebrated historic flight paths but also destruction sites comes to mind (unfortunately). What spectacular opportunities for re-enactors. "Let's do Flight 800 next weekend." Interesting how we (some) humans are keen to re-enact at places where people died while at war but not places where people died while at peace. Somehow it sort of reminds me of the high school Junior Civil Defence Rescue Group I was part of during the atom era, where we went out on weekends with our club's rescue van, an old blue laundry truck, and practiced retrieving victims of an atomic blast, led by professors from the Nuclear Physics Department at Cornell who should have known better but were probably trying to ease their consciences. Although I liked learning the first aid and ropework skills, I always felt very uncomfortable about the potential massive scale of the disaster we were practicing for and the miniscule scale and miniscule skills of our rescue group. It all seemed really silly but was a lot of fun as we tried to learn what it was to be professionals and how to wear hard hats. Also, your mention of saving gas to dispel aliens and other life forms suggests creating a collection of historic gas. I hereby nominate Ken for the first "Famous Farts" award. cp in clean air bc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:12:52 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Low Flying War of the Worlds In-Reply-To: <000901c2dbbf$c79a2640$755335d1@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cuyler wrote: >>I hereby nominate Ken for the first "Famous Farts" award.<< I heard he knows where Edison's last one is. Or did he mean famous Old Farts? Rudy -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:48:43 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3CaZwhFPZvqUI5ki6Vd0YA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_3CaZwhFPZvqUI5ki6Vd0YA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I don't think I've seen the list this prolific in months. What the hell happened to everybody??? - Pam --Boundary_(ID_3CaZwhFPZvqUI5ki6Vd0YA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=954054813-24022003>I don't think I've seen the list this prolific in months. What the hell happened to everybody???</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=954054813-24022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=954054813-24022003>- Pam</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_3CaZwhFPZvqUI5ki6Vd0YA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:56:38 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Low Flying War of the Worlds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1dd.382a6b2.2b8b7e96_boundary" --part1_1dd.382a6b2.2b8b7e96_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 11:53:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I hereby nominate Ken for the first "Famous Farts" award. > Moved and seconded. Ralph --part1_1dd.382a6b2.2b8b7e96_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/2003 11:53:59 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I hereby nominate Ken for the f= irst "Famous Farts" award.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Moved and seconded.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1dd.382a6b2.2b8b7e96_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:56:43 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Robert J. Cagnetta" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Shuttle Break up In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From what I have been able to pick up in the barrage, then trickles of information, the shuttle was breaking up not long after re-entry. They suspect that there was some damage to the wheel well covers and the front part of the left wing. Even though the designs of the shuttle were relatively the same, for some reason the Challenger had a different tile configuration, a bit "rougher" and a more tedious layout than the others, making it more vulnerable upon damage. So they think, at least unofficially, that the foam fragments that fell off the booster rocket during take off may have done some damage to the tiles and the wheel well covers. And since the temp gets up to about 3000 degrees, and the underlying aluminum melts at what 800 degrees, they didn't have a chance even over California. So when those gauges freaked out over Texas, the heat was in and the shuttle was breaking up. Apparently there analysis of the damage after take off was a bit too optimistic. Another theory is all of that space junk out there hit them on the way in. Unfortunately, flying at Mach 12 has its inherent dangers. Rob Cagnetta -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:36:54 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <003401c2da7b$bfaa8050$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--925662104 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2--925662104 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I have to agree that that is a problem. I don't have a snappy come-back. -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:07 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > John, the problem with "evidence" is, who's collecting it. The one's > doing the irregularities are the authorities charged with > investigation. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > Jim, > > Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and > if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be > charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my > right to due process). > > Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, > California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them > politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany > of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the > cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the > wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys > in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little > 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of > representatives...enough is enough! > > Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The > popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is > going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that > cause problems. > > -jc > > > On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote > in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb > won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from > the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in > many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus > all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that > just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern > Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole > sout. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ralph Walter > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to > my shame. > > > > What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing > Dubya. > > Ralph > --Apple-Mail-2--925662104 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII I have to agree that that is a problem. I don't have a snappy come-back. -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:07 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>John, the problem with "evidence" is, who's collecting it. The one's doing the irregularities are the authorities charged with investigation.</smaller></fontfamily> ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>John Callan</color></underline> <bold>To:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[log in to unmask]</color></underline> <bold>Sent:</bold> Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution Jim, Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my right to due process). Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of representatives...enough is enough! Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that cause problems. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole sout. jh ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline>Ralph Walter </underline><bold>To:</bold> <underline>[log in to unmask] </underline><bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, <underline>[log in to unmask]</underline> writes: Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to my shame. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing Dubya. Ralph </excerpt> --Apple-Mail-2--925662104-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:36:16 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1891 Handwritten New York City Diary/SharpMock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c6.18e80a8b.2b8b95f0_boundary" --part1_c6.18e80a8b.2b8b95f0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/03 8:10:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You can get Sanborns online from > > <A HREF="http://edrnet.com/">http://edrnet.com/</A> > Nice to know. thanks --part1_c6.18e80a8b.2b8b95f0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/23/03 8:10:00 PM Eastern Standard= Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You can get Sanborns online fro= m<BR> <BR> <A HREF=3D"http://edrnet.com/">http://edrnet.com/</A><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Nice to know. thanks</FONT></HTML> --part1_c6.18e80a8b.2b8b95f0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:39:12 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <003f01c2da7c$548027c0$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--925524613 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-4--925524613 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I'm just not as discouraged as you appear to be, and I'm more confidient in "representative democracy" than you are. -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:11 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > Popular vote etc. I think that is why there is a senate with two reps > from each state no matter how large or small the population. > I think the main problem is are we living in a democracy or a > capitolacracy? > It seems to me democracy = capitol in this country and the more > capitol the more democracy. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > Jim, > > Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and > if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be > charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my > right to due process). > > Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, > California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them > politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany > of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the > cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the > wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys > in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little > 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of > representatives...enough is enough! > > Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The > popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is > going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that > cause problems. > > -jc > > > On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote > in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb > won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from > the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in > many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus > all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that > just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern > Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole > sout. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ralph Walter > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to > my shame. > > > > What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing > Dubya. > > Ralph > --Apple-Mail-4--925524613 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII I'm just not as discouraged as you appear to be, and I'm more confidient in "representative democracy" than you are. -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:11 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Popular vote etc. I think that is why there is a senate with two reps from each state no matter how large or small the population.</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>I think the main problem is are we living in a democracy or a capitolacracy?</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>It seems to me democracy = capitol in this country and the more capitol the more democracy.</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>jh</smaller></fontfamily> ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>John Callan</color></underline> <bold>To:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[log in to unmask]</color></underline> <bold>Sent:</bold> Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution Jim, Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my right to due process). Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of representatives...enough is enough! Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that cause problems. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole sout. jh ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline>Ralph Walter </underline><bold>To:</bold> <underline>[log in to unmask] </underline><bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, <underline>[log in to unmask]</underline> writes: Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to my shame. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing Dubya. Ralph </excerpt> --Apple-Mail-4--925524613-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:35:48 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ctb: The Cayuga Lumber mill couldn't have been run via water power as there is no head available and the flow is pretty low much of the time. Even upstream at the flood control dam there is only about 3 feet of head (if that--barely enough to run a small mill) as I recollect. The flood control project wouldn't have changed things as it didn't affect the level of the lake as far as I know (the water level at Cayuga Lumber woud've been pretty close to that of the lake). My first job out of college involved working with small hydro in New England and the first job site I worked had a belt-driven mill that could be driven by either a Leffel turbine (about 6-8 feet of head) or an immense (to me) steam engine (it took up about a fifteen by thrity foot room, had about an eight foot diameter flywheel). The company I worked for provided a new hydro-electric turbine and made the belt system obsolete (Leffel was rude to the owner when he visited their plant so he decided to not replace the original mechanical turbine). The owner sold the shafts and belts but the steam engine remained (the boiler for it was about as big as the engine room as I recall but I think firing it up would be too dangerous). Some of my fondest recollections of the west end of Ithaca (I grew up, until age 11, opposite Washington Park, about six blocks east) involved visiting the other lumber yard (Robinson's?) that was a little downstream of Cayuga Lumber. Their mill building always seemed to be in danger of falling into the creek. We would go here on Saturdays to pick up wood that my folks had planed there and I can still remember a short slender guy, dressed in kakhi work clothes, with thin, slicked back hair and glasses who always seemed to wait on us. Other memories involved hitching rides on the switching locomotives as they worked rail cars around the west end. This probably only happened once or twice but it certainly was a high point of hanging around that area. (And, of course, putting pennies and pieces of ballast on the rails to see what was left after the train passed.) Later in life I sometimes had the pleasure of refueling the engines when I worked for Agway Petroleum one winter (dropping 500 or so gallons once or twice a week just a mile or so from our depot was considered a plum job, one the regular drivers didn't like to give up). Bruce -----Original Message----- From: vgernet.net [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 4:41 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Eve & Festus Speaking of Festus, I remember working with him for his dad unloading bagged cement at Cayuga Lumber. Part of that facility was an immense woodworking mill, complete with planers, gang saws, band saws, ect , all operated by complex leather belt and pulley system. I don't remember the power plant , but it could have been water at one time. All gone when flood control project came through.ctb ----- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:01:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: "thank god i can reach you" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c0.58ea1b4.2b8ba9f7_boundary" --part1_1c0.58ea1b4.2b8ba9f7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a particulary good one. $45 million. Best, Christopher In a message dated 2/24/03 8:14:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > ATTN: SEEKING HONEST ASSOCIATE > > Pardon me for contacting you through this medium and in this manner without > any prior introduction. This is due to circumstances beyond my control. I > had to bribe > the prison attendants to secretly allow me open an email address from the > computer in their office. My name is Alhaji Mohammed Sani Abacha, the > eldest > surviving son of the late Nigerian Head of State, General Sani Abacha. I am > currently in detention on the orders of the current Nigerian government at > the > Kirikiri Maximum Security Prisons, Lagos --part1_1c0.58ea1b4.2b8ba9f7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">This is a particulary good one. $45 millio= n. Best, Christopher <BR> <BR> <BR> In a message dated 2/24/03 8:14:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, oh_009_ab= [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE styl= e=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PA= DDING-LEFT: 5px">ATTN: SEEKING HONEST ASSOCIATE <BR> <BR> Pardon me for contacting you through this medium and in this manner without=20= any prior introduction. This is due to circumstances beyond my control. I ha= d to bribe<BR> the prison attendants to secretly allow me open an email address from the co= mputer in their office. My name is Alhaji Mohammed Sani Abacha, the eldest <= BR> surviving son of the late Nigerian Head of State, General Sani Abacha. I am=20= currently in detention on the orders of the current Nigerian government at t= he <BR> Kirikiri Maximum Security Prisons, Lagos </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1c0.58ea1b4.2b8ba9f7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:13:37 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "thank god i can reach you" In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_aO52zjfny8Cio/4xDsrJDA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_aO52zjfny8Cio/4xDsrJDA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT There was an interesting article in the local Sunday paper talking about "419" scams. Check out http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ Made me think of Ms. Loi.... - Pam -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met History Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 12:02 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: "thank god i can reach you" This is a particulary good one. $45 million. Best, Christopher In a message dated 2/24/03 8:14:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: ATTN: SEEKING HONEST ASSOCIATE Pardon me for contacting you through this medium and in this manner without any prior introduction. This is due to circumstances beyond my control. I had to bribe the prison attendants to secretly allow me open an email address from the computer in their office. My name is Alhaji Mohammed Sani Abacha, the eldest surviving son of the late Nigerian Head of State, General Sani Abacha. I am currently in detention on the orders of the current Nigerian government at the Kirikiri Maximum Security Prisons, Lagos --Boundary_(ID_aO52zjfny8Cio/4xDsrJDA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=760410817-24022003>There was an interesting article in the local Sunday paper talking about "419" scams. Check out <A href="http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/">http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/</A> Made me think of Ms. Loi....</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=760410817-24022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=760410817-24022003>- Pam</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Met History<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 24, 2003 12:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> "thank god i can reach you"<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face="Times New Roman" lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SERIF">This is a particulary good one. $45 million. Best, Christopher <BR><BR><BR>In a message dated 2/24/03 8:14:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE">ATTN: SEEKING HONEST ASSOCIATE <BR><BR>Pardon me for contacting you through this medium and in this manner without any prior introduction. This is due to circumstances beyond my control. I had to bribe<BR>the prison attendants to secretly allow me open an email address from the computer in their office. My name is Alhaji Mohammed Sani Abacha, the eldest <BR>surviving son of the late Nigerian Head of State, General Sani Abacha. I am currently in detention on the orders of the current Nigerian government at the <BR>Kirikiri Maximum Security Prisons, Lagos </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face="Times New Roman" lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_aO52zjfny8Cio/4xDsrJDA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:24:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Low Flying War of the Worlds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12f.23d77546.2b8baf60_boundary" --part1_12f.23d77546.2b8baf60_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also, your mention of saving gas to dispel aliens and other life forms suggests creating a collection of historic gas. Cuyler, I appreciate the confidence but I believe Henry Ford beat us to it with the historic gas of Thomas Edison. There may be other precedents that we are not aware of. An online list of archived resources would make an interesting addition to the political graveyard. Historic contrails... works for me. It may also be a good theme for a planetarium. Obviously odd -- divers wanting to visit a faux plane wreck. I suppose next somebody will want to designate the tree that Sonny Bono ran into. What I would like to know is why do people re-enact? My asking has something to do with the philosophy of history tapes I've been listening to... we exist in a culture where most of us are wage earners and yet some of us use our surplus to re-enact the past, but the re-enactment is never the reality... several steps away from reality into an historical fantasy. ][<en --part1_12f.23d77546.2b8baf60_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Also, your mention of saving gas to dispel aliens and=20= other life forms<BR> suggests creating a collection of historic gas.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Cuyler,<BR> <BR> I appreciate the confidence but I believe Henry Ford beat us to it with the=20= historic gas of Thomas Edison. There may be other precedents that we are not= aware of. An online list of archived resources would make an interesting ad= dition to the political graveyard.<BR> <BR> Historic contrails... works for me. It may also be a good theme for a planet= arium. Obviously odd -- divers wanting to visit a faux plane wreck. I suppos= e next somebody will want to designate the tree that Sonny Bono ran into.<BR= > <BR> What I would like to know is why do people re-enact? My asking has something= to do with the philosophy of history tapes I've been listening to... we exi= st in a culture where most of us are wage earners and yet some of us use our= surplus to re-enact the past, but the re-enactment is never the reality...=20= several steps away from reality into an historical fantasy.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_12f.23d77546.2b8baf60_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:25:33 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Low Flying War of the Worlds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2d.2b664f11.2b8baf8d_boundary" --part1_2d.2b664f11.2b8baf8d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Or did he mean famous Old Farts? I'm waiting for prequalification. --part1_2d.2b664f11.2b8baf8d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Or did he mean famous Old Farts?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I'm waiting for prequalification.</FONT></HTML> --part1_2d.2b664f11.2b8baf8d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:26:06 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_60.2ddb8387.2b8bafae_boundary" --part1_60.2ddb8387.2b8bafae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think I've seen the list this prolific in months. What the hell happened to everybody??? Bad gas? --part1_60.2ddb8387.2b8bafae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE= =3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I don't think I've seen the list this prolific= in months. What the hell happened to everybody???</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Bad gas?</FONT></HTML> --part1_60.2ddb8387.2b8bafae_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:29:41 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Shuttle Break up MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_127.23394854.2b8bb085_boundary" --part1_127.23394854.2b8bb085_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They are mapping the debris with GIS. When people call into the forestry service mapping service in Texas then the pieces are plotted and somone goes out and gets them, along with photographs of the position of the pieces. I'm curious if, based on the disbursement of pieces, they will be able to plot a computer simulation of the event. ][<en --part1_127.23394854.2b8bb085_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">They are mapping the debris with GIS. When people call= into the forestry service mapping service in Texas then the pieces are plot= ted and somone goes out and gets them, along with photographs of the positio= n of the pieces. I'm curious if, based on the disbursement of pieces, they w= ill be able to plot a computer simulation of the event. ][<en</FONT></HTM= L> --part1_127.23394854.2b8bb085_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:32:41 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Low Flying War of the Worlds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_182.177a21da.2b8bb139_boundary" --part1_182.177a21da.2b8bb139_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:25:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > What I would like to know is why do people re-enact? My asking has something > to do with the philosophy of history tapes I've been listening to... we > exist in a culture where most of us are wage earners and yet some of us use > our surplus to re-enact the past, but the re-enactment is never the > reality... several steps away from reality into an historical fantasy. > This is evidently not quite as nonsensical, and more Histo-Presto supportive, to me than to you. The reenactors are trying to get as close to whatever chunk of history they're obsessed with, and to recreate for themselves a sense of "what it was like," kinda like us. Only we get paid to do it with buildings, and they pay to dress up and be uncomfortable. We're all nuts. Ralph --part1_182.177a21da.2b8bb139_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:25:38 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What I would like to know is wh= y do people re-enact? My asking has something to do with the philosophy of h= istory tapes I've been listening to... we exist in a culture where most of u= s are wage earners and yet some of us use our surplus to re-enact the past,=20= but the re-enactment is never the reality... several steps away from reality= into an historical fantasy.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> This is evidently not quite as nonsensical, and more Histo-Presto supportive= , to me than to you. The reenactors are trying to get as close to what= ever chunk of history they're obsessed with, and to recreate for themselves=20= a sense of "what it was like," kinda like us. Only we get paid to do i= t with buildings, and they pay to dress up and be uncomfortable.<BR> <BR> We're all nuts.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_182.177a21da.2b8bb139_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:37:59 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2DC01.903F9800" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2DC01.903F9800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trying to sound less arrogant as I actuall am, that you can't come up = with a snappy response recomends you well. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution I have to agree that that is a problem. I don't have a snappy = come-back. -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:07 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: John, the problem with "evidence" is, who's collecting it. The one's = doing the irregularities are the authorities charged with investigation. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Callan To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution Jim, Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated = and if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be = charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my = right to due process). Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, = California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them = politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany of = your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the cost = savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the = wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in = the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 = acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of = representatives...enough is enough! Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. = The popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is = going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that = cause problems. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I = vote in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case = Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged = from the voting reg six months before the election and on election day = in many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus = all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that just = this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern = Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole sout. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much = to my shame. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby = electing Dubya. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2DC01.903F9800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Trying to sound less arrogant as = I actuall=20 am, that you can't come up with a snappy response recomends you=20 well.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John=20 Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 24, 2003 = 10:36=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>I have to agree that that is a problem. I don't have a = snappy=20 come-back.<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR>On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:07 = AM, Jim=20 Hicks wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>John, the problem = with=20 "evidence" is, who's collecting it. The one's doing the = irregularities are=20 the authorities charged with=20 investigation.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>----- Original = Message=20 -----<BR><B>From:</B> <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>John=20 Callan<?/color></U><BR><B>To:</B> <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A><?/color></U><BR><B>Sent:</B>=20 Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq = response &=20 Constitution<BR><BR>Jim,<BR><BR>Two seperate issues. Voting = irregularities=20 should be investigated and if the evidence supports the charge, the=20 perpetrators should be charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, = (barely and=20 only to protect my right to due process).<BR><BR>Popular vote? = That's a=20 great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, California or New York. = No=20 problem for you, you'll have all them politicians listening to your = polls=20 and visiting every nook and crany of your steaming cities. And so = damned=20 efficient too! Think of the cost savings. Don't have to pay any = attention to=20 them folks out in the wilderness. Hell! We could have a National = Real Estate=20 Tax...you guys in the cities would like that! And your farmers with = their=20 cute little 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got = the house=20 of representatives...enough is enough!<BR><BR>Disenfranchisement is = a bad=20 idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The popular vote eliminates = any=20 reason for politicians to know what is going on outside of a dozen = most=20 populated states. Things like that cause = problems.<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR><BR>On=20 Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote:<BR><BR>It = would=20 help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote in NY = and the=20 State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb won the pop = vote, he=20 just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from the voting reg six = months=20 before the election and on election day in many black counties there = were=20 road blocks leading to the polls (plus all of the other voting = eregularities=20 which the supreams said that just this one time we're going to = chose)and in=20 any case the "Southern Stradegy" has worked very well and is very = alive in=20 the grand ole sout.<BR>jh<BR><BR>----- Original Message=20 -----<BR><B>From:</B> <U>Ralph Walter<BR></U><B>To:</B>=20 <U>[log in to unmask]<BR></U><B>Sent:</B> = Wednesday,=20 February 19, 2003 8:55 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response & = Constitution<BR><BR>In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern = Standard=20 Time, <U>[log in to unmask]</U> writes:<BR><BR>Actually, I hate = them all=20 except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to my = shame.<BR><BR><BR><BR>What=20 you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing=20 Dubya.<BR><BR>Ralph<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2DC01.903F9800-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:41:28 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_23.2c5984e7.2b8bb348_boundary" --part1_23.2c5984e7.2b8bb348_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:26:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Bad gas? Years ago, in Joisey City, I met a group of people, including (for the first and only time) the wife of one of my neighbors who announced that there was "nothing as overrated as a bad f*ck, or as underrated as a good sh*t." Shortly thereafter she ran away with my friend's (nominal) best friend, who was among those present at the time the above announcement was made. Anyway, the point of this is that it seems to me that bad gas is in the nose of the beholder. Ralph --part1_23.2c5984e7.2b8bb348_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:26:43 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Bad gas?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"= #000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" F= ACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Years ago, in Joisey City, I met a group of people, including (for the first= and only time) the wife of one of my neighbors who announced that there was= "nothing as overrated as a bad f*ck, or as underrated as a good sh*t." = ; Shortly thereafter she ran away with my friend's (nominal) best friend, wh= o was among those present at the time the above announcement was made.<BR> <BR> Anyway, the point of this is that it seems to me that bad gas is in the nose= of the beholder.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_23.2c5984e7.2b8bb348_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:46:51 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Low Flying War of the Worlds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Speaking of diving on plane wrecks, last night I set up my folk's DVD player (up until now just used for music CDs) to play DVDs on the TV. They got a DVD from Sam Johnson (of the wax firm--his family used to live in my folks' house and he knows them from Cornell alumni stuff) that has to do with Sam recreating a plane his dad used to fly down to Brazil to find carnuba wax (from which Johnson's "Car Nu" was made). Anyway in it is a scene where his boy(s) and others dive in Papua New Guinea to try to find the wreck of his dad's plane (sold to another company and wrecked there). The plane was powered by twin rotary engines, high wing, a short center fuselage/hull for landing on water, small pontoons out near the wing tips, twin booms back to the rear control surfaces, etc. I saw a display at Oshkosh when I was there several years ago that featured a small movie theater inside a replica fuselage of the plane. I think the film was on Discovery or TLC some time ago but this may have added information (I only watched short parts near the front last night)? Last night I also heard a tidbit that you'll get a kick out of: My mom mentioned that they are excavating out in back of the Woolworth's store (now the Cornell Public Library), in the parking lot, to investgate old privies that were in back of small houses along that block of South Cayuga Street. They're getting ready to build a parking garage there (evidently the library or the hotel across the street needs more parking space--it's not a great location for the downtown business district) and someone decided they needed to learn something of that era by digging up ancient the privies that were out back of the houses. I tried to search the past IJs but to no avail (they don't seem to allow that access--they want to sell that service, I think)--I understand an article appeared in the paper about two weeks ago. Apparently digging up old privies is a valid/worthwhile archeological practice... Submit to BP if appropriate... -----Original Message----- Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] wrote: Obviously odd -- divers wanting to visit a faux plane wreck. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:48:43 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2DC03.0FF8EE60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2DC03.0FF8EE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think most of you middle class whites do have confidence in the way = things are playing out at the moment (of course that is if you still = have yours- maybe talk to some ex Enron employees to get their slant on = the current state of "r d") but if you look a little past your edges I = think your confidence will be eroded a mite.=20 Maybe not; I think the H L Menkin quote about something to the effect = that 'no-one ever went broke overestimating the mediocrity of the = American public' comes into play here. jh ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution I'm just not as discouraged as you appear to be, and I'm more = confidient in "representative democracy" than you are. -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:11 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: Popular vote etc. I think that is why there is a senate with two = reps from each state no matter how large or small the population. I think the main problem is are we living in a democracy or a = capitolacracy? It seems to me democracy =3D capitol in this country and the more = capitol the more democracy. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: John Callan To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution Jim, Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated = and if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be = charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my = right to due process). Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, = California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them = politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany of = your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the cost = savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the = wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in = the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 = acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of = representatives...enough is enough! Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. = The popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is = going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that = cause problems. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I = vote in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case = Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged = from the voting reg six months before the election and on election day = in many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus = all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that just = this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern = Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole sout. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much = to my shame. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby = electing Dubya. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2DC03.0FF8EE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think most of you middle class whites = do have=20 confidence in the way things are playing out at the moment (of course = that is if=20 you still have yours- maybe talk to some ex Enron employees to get their = slant=20 on the current state of "r d") but if you look a little past your edges = I think=20 your confidence will be eroded a mite. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe not; I think the H L Menkin quote = about=20 something to the effect that 'no-one ever went broke overestimating the=20 mediocrity of the American public' comes into play here.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jh</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John=20 Callan</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 24, 2003 = 10:39=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response = &=20 Constitution</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>I'm just not as discouraged as you appear to be, and = I'm more=20 confidient in "representative democracy" than you = are.<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR>On=20 Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:11 AM, Jim Hicks wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Popular vote etc. I = think=20 that is why there is a senate with two reps from each state no = matter how=20 large or small the = population.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>I=20 think the main problem is are we living in a democracy or a = capitolacracy?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>It=20 seems to me democracy =3D capitol in this country and the more = capitol the=20 more democracy.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param = Arial><?smaller>jh<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR>-----=20 Original Message -----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>John = Callan<?/color></U><BR><B>To:</B> <U><?color><?param = 1999,1999,FFFF>[log in to unmask]<?/color></U><BR>= <B>Sent:</B>=20 Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq = response &=20 Constitution<BR><BR>Jim,<BR><BR>Two seperate issues. Voting = irregularities=20 should be investigated and if the evidence supports the charge, the=20 perpetrators should be charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, = (barely and=20 only to protect my right to due process).<BR><BR>Popular vote? = That's a=20 great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, California or New York. = No=20 problem for you, you'll have all them politicians listening to your = polls=20 and visiting every nook and crany of your steaming cities. And so = damned=20 efficient too! Think of the cost savings. Don't have to pay any = attention to=20 them folks out in the wilderness. Hell! We could have a National = Real Estate=20 Tax...you guys in the cities would like that! And your farmers with = their=20 cute little 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got = the house=20 of representatives...enough is enough!<BR><BR>Disenfranchisement is = a bad=20 idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The popular vote eliminates = any=20 reason for politicians to know what is going on outside of a dozen = most=20 populated states. Things like that cause = problems.<BR><BR>-jc<BR><BR><BR>On=20 Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote:<BR><BR>It = would=20 help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote in NY = and the=20 State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb won the pop = vote, he=20 just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from the voting reg six = months=20 before the election and on election day in many black counties there = were=20 road blocks leading to the polls (plus all of the other voting = eregularities=20 which the supreams said that just this one time we're going to = chose)and in=20 any case the "Southern Stradegy" has worked very well and is very = alive in=20 the grand ole sout.<BR>jh<BR><BR>----- Original Message=20 -----<BR><B>From:</B> <U>Ralph Walter<BR></U><B>To:</B>=20 <U>[log in to unmask]<BR></U><B>Sent:</B> = Wednesday,=20 February 19, 2003 8:55 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Iraq response & = Constitution<BR><BR>In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern = Standard=20 Time, <U>[log in to unmask]</U> writes:<BR><BR>Actually, I hate = them all=20 except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to my = shame.<BR><BR><BR><BR>What=20 you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing=20 Dubya.<BR><BR>Ralph<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2DC03.0FF8EE60-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:51:13 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_EVbiZAc48gHsfPqENLRVWA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_EVbiZAc48gHsfPqENLRVWA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT As was evidenced last night in our household. The newest "adult" in the family decided that there wasn't enough excitement watching the Grammy's, and therefore, a little Odor du jour was needed - one of the silent but deadly variety. We promptly lit the smelliest candle we could find just to keep our eyes from watering. He thought the scent was Wonderful. -----Original Message----- Anyway, the point of this is that it seems to me that bad gas is in the nose of the beholder. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_EVbiZAc48gHsfPqENLRVWA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=875434817-24022003>As was evidenced last night in our household. The newest "adult" in the family decided that there wasn't enough excitement watching the Grammy's, and therefore, a little Odor du jour was needed - one of the silent but deadly variety. We promptly lit the smelliest candle we could find just to keep our eyes from watering. He thought the scent was Wonderful.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----<FONT color=#0000ff></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN class=875434817-24022003> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN class=875434817-24022003> </SPAN><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Anyway, the point of this is that it seems to me that bad gas is in the nose of the beholder.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_EVbiZAc48gHsfPqENLRVWA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:29:41 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Low Flying War of the Worlds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ce.34c75c3a.2b8bbe95_boundary" --part1_ce.34c75c3a.2b8bbe95_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:47:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Apparently digging up old privies is a valid/worthwhile archeological > practice... > Bruce, You really never heard of this? Is there so much abovegrade up there that you never heard of excavating (or is the ground too hard)? This is standard archeological practice, and a rich source of historic....stuff. I have never had the pleasure of excavating an old one, myself, although I have excavated for a new one once (in Boy Scout camp one summer), and have used them for Private Functions more often than I would like. Ralph --part1_ce.34c75c3a.2b8bbe95_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:47:37 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Apparently digging up old privi= es is a valid/worthwhile archeological<BR> practice...<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Bruce,<BR> <BR> You really never heard of this? Is there so much abovegrade up there t= hat you never heard of excavating (or is the ground too hard)? This is stand= ard archeological practice, and a rich source of historic....stuff. I=20= have never had the pleasure of excavating an old one, myself, although I hav= e excavated for a new one once (in Boy Scout camp one summer), and have used= them for Private Functions more often than I would like.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_ce.34c75c3a.2b8bbe95_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:37:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b8.3a47fbfc.2b8bc07c_boundary" --part1_b8.3a47fbfc.2b8bc07c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:49:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I think most of you middle class whites do have confidence in the way things > are playing out at the moment (of course that is if you still have yours- > maybe talk to some ex Enron employees to get their slant on the current > state of "r d") but if you look a little past your edges I think your > confidence will be eroded a mite. Jim, My confidence is somewhat unsteady at the moment (and was more so after the 2000 election, too), but like being alive, our version of representative democracy is better than the alternatives. Which is not to say that the Enron bigshots and their cohorts elsewhere shouldn't be boiled in oil. Ralph --part1_b8.3a47fbfc.2b8bc07c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:49:28 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I think most of you middle clas= s whites do have confidence in the way things are playing out at the moment=20= (of course that is if you still have yours- maybe talk to some ex Enron empl= oyees to get their slant on the current state of "r d") but if you look a li= ttle past your edges I think your confidence will be eroded a mite. </BLOCKQ= UOTE><BR> <BR> Jim,<BR> <BR> My confidence is somewhat unsteady at the moment (and was more so after the=20= 2000 election, too), but like being alive, our version of representative dem= ocracy is better than the alternatives. <BR> <BR> Which is not to say that the Enron bigshots and their cohorts elsewhere shou= ldn't be boiled in oil. <BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_b8.3a47fbfc.2b8bc07c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:47:31 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_193.162a0b6f.2b8bc2c3_boundary" --part1_193.162a0b6f.2b8bc2c3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:51:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > As was evidenced last night in our household. The newest "adult" in the > family decided that there wasn't enough excitement watching the Grammy's, > and therefore, a little Odor du jour was needed - one of the silent but > deadly variety. We promptly lit the smelliest candle we could find just to > keep our eyes from watering. He thought the scent was Wonderful. > Pam, Which did he think was wonderful? Permit me to remind you of the old adage, "He who smelt it, dealt it." Or in this case, was it a She? Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah. Somebody should do a study to figure out the reason for the well-known effect of the manufacturer's appreciation of freshly cut cheese. But somebody else can propose it to the National Academy of Sciences. Not me. Ralph --part1_193.162a0b6f.2b8bc2c3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:51:58 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">As was evidenced last night in our household. Th= e newest "adult" in the family decided that there wasn't enough excitement w= atching the Grammy's, and therefore, a little Odor du jour was needed - one=20= of the silent but deadly variety. We promptly lit the smelliest candle= we could find just to keep our eyes from watering. He thought the sce= nt was Wonderful.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:=20= #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Pam,<BR> <BR> <U>Which</U> did he think was wonderful? Permit me to remind you of th= e old adage, "He who smelt it, dealt it." Or in this case, was it a Sh= e? Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah.<BR> <BR> Somebody should do a study to figure out the reason for the well-known effec= t of the manufacturer's appreciation of freshly cut cheese. But somebo= dy else can propose it to the National Academy of Sciences. Not me. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_193.162a0b6f.2b8bc2c3_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:21:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Winston Churchill, House of Commons, 10.5.1938 - "a bitter cup" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3c.2c67386a.2b8be6ee_boundary" --part1_3c.2c67386a.2b8be6ee_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [excerpted] I venture to think that in future the Czechoslovak State cannot be maintained as an independent entity. You will find that in a period of time which may be measured by years, but may be measured only by months, Czechoslovakia will be engulfed in the Nazi regime. Perhaps they may join it in despair or in revenge. At any rate, that story is over and told. But we cannot consider the abandonment and ruin of Czechoslovakia in the light only of what happened only last month. It is the most grievous consequence which we have yet experienced of what we have done and of what we have left undone in the last five years-five years of futile good intention, five years of eager search for the line of least resistance, five years of uninterrupted retreat of British power, five years of neglect of our air defences. Those are the features which I stand here to declare and which marked an improvident stewardship for which Great Britain and France have dearly to pay. We have been reduced in those five years from a position of security so overwhelming and so unchallengeable that we never cared to think about it. We have been reduced from a position where the very word "war" was considered one which would be used only by persons qualifying for a lunatic asylum. We have been reduced from a position of safety and power--power to do good, power to be generous to a beaten foe, power to make terms with Germany, power to give her proper redress for her grievances, power to stop her arming if we chose, power to take any step in strength or mercy or justice which we thought right-reduced in five years from a position safe and unchallenged to where we stand now.... What will be the position, I want to know, of France and England this year and the year afterwards? What will be the position of that Western front of which we are in full authority the guarantors? The German army at the present time is more numerous than that of France, though not nearly so matured or perfected. Next year it will grow much larger, and its maturity will be more complete. Relieved from all anxiety in the East, and having secured resources which will greatly diminish, if not entirely remove, the deterrent of a naval blockade, the rulers of Nazi Germany will have a free choice open to them in what direction they will turn their eyes. If the Nazi dictator should choose to look westward, as he may, bitterly will France and England regret the loss of that fine army of ancient Bohemia which Was estimated last week to require not fewer than 30 German divisions for its destruction. Can we blind ourselves to the great change which has taken place in the military situation, and to the dangers we have to meet?. This is only the beginning of the reckoning. This is only the first sip, the first foretaste of a bitter cup which will be proffered to us year by year unless by a supreme recovery of moral health and martial vigour, we arise again and take our stand for freedom as in the olden time. --part1_3c.2c67386a.2b8be6ee_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">[excerpted] <BR> <BR>I venture to think that in future the Czechoslovak State cannot be maint= ained as an independent entity. You will find that in a period of time which= may be measured by years, but may be measured only by months, Czechoslovaki= a will be engulfed in the Nazi regime. Perhaps they may join it in despair o= r in revenge. At any rate, that story is over and told. But we cannot consid= er the abandonment and ruin of Czechoslovakia in the light only of what happ= ened only last month. It is the most grievous consequence which we have yet=20= experienced of what we have done and of what we have left undone in the last= five years-five years of futile good intention, five years of eager search=20= for the line of least resistance, five years of uninterrupted retreat of Bri= tish power, five years of neglect of our air defences. Those are the feature= s which I stand here to declare and which marked an improvident stewardship=20= for which Great Britain and France have dearly to pay. We have been reduced=20= in those five years from a position of security so overwhelming and so uncha= llengeable that we never cared to think about it. We have been reduced from=20= a position where the very word "war" was considered one which would be used=20= only by persons qualifying for a lunatic asylum. We have been reduced from a= position of safety and power--power to do good, power to be generous to a b= eaten foe, power to make terms with Germany, power to give her proper redres= s for her grievances, power to stop her arming if we chose, power to take an= y step in strength or mercy or justice which we thought right-reduced in fiv= e years from a position safe and unchallenged to where we stand now.... <BR> <BR>What will be the position, I want to know, of France and England this ye= ar and the year afterwards? What will be the position of that Western front=20= of which we are in full authority the guarantors? The German army at the pre= sent time is more numerous than that of France, though not nearly so matured= or perfected. Next year it will grow much larger, and its maturity will be=20= more complete. Relieved from all anxiety in the East, and having secured res= ources which will greatly diminish, if not entirely remove, the deterrent of= a naval blockade, the rulers of Nazi Germany will have a free choice open t= o them in what direction they will turn their eyes. If the Nazi dictator sho= uld choose to look westward, as he may, bitterly will France and England reg= ret the loss of that fine army of ancient Bohemia which Was estimated last w= eek to require not fewer than 30 German divisions for its destruction. <BR>Can we blind ourselves to the great change which has taken place in the=20= military situation, and to the dangers we have to meet?. <BR> <BR>This is only the beginning of the reckoning. This is only the first sip,= the first foretaste of a bitter cup which will be proffered to us year by y= ear unless by a supreme recovery of moral health and martial vigour, we aris= e again and take our stand for freedom as in the olden time. <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_3c.2c67386a.2b8be6ee_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:43:56 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Winston Churchill, House of Commons, 10.5.1938 - "a bitter cup" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ae.39f15d75.2b8bec1c_boundary" --part1_ae.39f15d75.2b8bec1c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What a great man. Ralph --part1_ae.39f15d75.2b8bec1c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">What a great man.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_ae.39f15d75.2b8bec1c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:40:42 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Winston Churchill, House of Commons, 10.5.1938 - "a bitter cup" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_65.add8bff.2b8bf96a_boundary" --part1_65.add8bff.2b8bf96a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is only the beginning of the reckoning. Sharpshooter: Churchill's comments would be more reassuring at present if Bush were ever once eloquent. The worry is that when sharp tools are handled by dull apprentices the result is usually some nasty and unexpected cuts. Standing up with a bull horn at ground zero is one thing, having and showing strategic intelligence is another. It is worrisome when the rhetoric of our leading political manager never gets beyond the style of an infomercial. ][< en --part1_65.add8bff.2b8bf96a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">This is only the beginning of the reckoning. </B= LOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff= " SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Sharpshooter: Churchill's comments would be more reassuring at present if Bu= sh were ever once eloquent. The worry is that when sharp tools are handled b= y dull apprentices the result is usually some nasty and unexpected cuts. Sta= nding up with a bull horn at ground zero is one thing, having and showing st= rategic intelligence is another. It is worrisome when the rhetoric of our le= ading political manager never gets beyond the style of an infomercial. ][<= ;en</FONT></HTML> --part1_65.add8bff.2b8bf96a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:47:20 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HbYPAJezFKWHJkrRmQgv2Q)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_HbYPAJezFKWHJkrRmQgv2Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thanks, Ralph, I smell like that remark.... -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ralph Walter Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:48 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:51:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: As was evidenced last night in our household. The newest "adult" in the family decided that there wasn't enough excitement watching the Grammy's, and therefore, a little Odor du jour was needed - one of the silent but deadly variety. We promptly lit the smelliest candle we could find just to keep our eyes from watering. He thought the scent was Wonderful. Pam, Which did he think was wonderful? Permit me to remind you of the old adage, "He who smelt it, dealt it." Or in this case, was it a She? Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah. Somebody should do a study to figure out the reason for the well-known effect of the manufacturer's appreciation of freshly cut cheese. But somebody else can propose it to the National Academy of Sciences. Not me. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_HbYPAJezFKWHJkrRmQgv2Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=825044722-24022003>Thanks, Ralph, I smell like that remark....</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ralph Walter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 24, 2003 1:48 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!!<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:51:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SCRIPT">As was evidenced last night in our household. The newest "adult" in the family decided that there wasn't enough excitement watching the Grammy's, and therefore, a little Odor du jour was needed - one of the silent but deadly variety. We promptly lit the smelliest candle we could find just to keep our eyes from watering. He thought the scent was Wonderful.</FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=3 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Pam,<BR><BR><U>Which</U> did he think was wonderful? Permit me to remind you of the old adage, "He who smelt it, dealt it." Or in this case, was it a She? Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah.<BR><BR>Somebody should do a study to figure out the reason for the well-known effect of the manufacturer's appreciation of freshly cut cheese. But somebody else can propose it to the National Academy of Sciences. Not me. <BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_HbYPAJezFKWHJkrRmQgv2Q)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:52:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Winston Churchill, House of Commons, 10.5.1938 - "a bitter cup" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_19f.1155a442.2b8bfc10_boundary" --part1_19f.1155a442.2b8bfc10_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/24/2003 5:41:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > It is worrisome when the rhetoric of our leading political manager never > gets beyond the style of an infomercial. Ken, I'm sory, but I believe you are mistaken. He swept past the style and onto the content of an infomercial. And that's with speechwriting help. Ralph --part1_19f.1155a442.2b8bfc10_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/24/2003 5:41:46 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It is worrisome when the rhetor= ic of our leading political manager never gets beyond the style of an infome= rcial. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" S= IZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ken,<BR> <BR> I'm sory, but I believe you are mistaken. He swept past the style and onto t= he content of an infomercial. And that's with speechwriting help.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_19f.1155a442.2b8bfc10_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:55:24 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3b.3401a9c5.2b8bfcdc_boundary" --part1_3b.3401a9c5.2b8bfcdc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/24/2003 5:47:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Thanks, Ralph, I smell like that remark.... > Pam, If you think my remarks stink, well, you should talk to Mrs. Ralph. Any way you want to take that is fine. Ralph --part1_3b.3401a9c5.2b8bfcdc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/24/2003 5:47:52 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE= style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0p= x; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Thanks, Ralph, I smell like that remark....</FONT><FON= T COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"= SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Pam,<BR> <BR> If you think my remarks stink, well, you should talk to Mrs. Ralph. <BR> <BR> Any way you want to take that is fine. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_3b.3401a9c5.2b8bfcdc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:05:17 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: OK, fine, I'm voting the straight Saddam Hussein ticket next time... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9.b20d0e8.2b8bff2d_boundary" --part1_9.b20d0e8.2b8bff2d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/24/03 5:41:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Churchill's comments would be more reassuring at present if Bush were ever > --part1_9.b20d0e8.2b8bff2d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/24/03 5:41:46 PM Eastern St= andard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Churchill's comments would=20= be more reassuring at present if Bush were ever once eloquent</BLOCKQUOTE> <= /FONT></HTML> --part1_9.b20d0e8.2b8bff2d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:24:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: This was their finest hour ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_113.1f5420b2.2b8c2dc0_boundary" --part1_113.1f5420b2.2b8c2dc0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AOL News: In an interview with CBS anchor Dan Rather, Saddam Hussein challenged President Bush on Monday to an internationally televised debate ... --part1_113.1f5420b2.2b8c2dc0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> AOL News: In an interview with CBS anchor Dan R= ather, Saddam Hussein challenged President Bush on Monday to an internationa= lly televised debate ...</FONT></HTML> --part1_113.1f5420b2.2b8c2dc0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:57:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: This was their finest hour ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1f1.2d8ccc5.2b8c3585_boundary" --part1_1f1.2d8ccc5.2b8c3585_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/24/2003 9:24:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > AOL News: In an interview with CBS anchor Dan Rather, Saddam Hussein > challenged President Bush on Monday to an internationally televised debate > ... Forget the debate. But it would be interesting to see which of them has better command of the English language. Ralph --part1_1f1.2d8ccc5.2b8c3585_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/24/2003 9:24:39 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">AOL News: In an interview= with CBS anchor Dan Rather, Saddam Hussein challenged President Bush on Mon= day to an internationally televised debate ...</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000= " style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"= arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Forget the debate. But it would be interesting to see which of them has bett= er command of the English language.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1f1.2d8ccc5.2b8c3585_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:51:08 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <001a01c2dc2b$7934c0c0$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--881607799 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-9--881607799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thank you. -jc On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > =A0Trying to sound less arrogant as I actuall am, that you can't come = up=20 > with a snappy response recomends you well. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:36 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > I have to agree that that is a problem. I don't have a snappy=20 > come-back. > > -jc > > On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:07 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > John, the problem with "evidence" is, who's collecting it. The one's=20= > doing the irregularities are the authorities charged with=20 > investigation. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > Jim, > > Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and=20= > if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be=20 > charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my=20= > right to due process). > > Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida,=20 > California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them=20 > politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany=20= > of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the=20 > cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the=20= > wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys=20= > in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little=20= > 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of=20 > representatives...enough is enough! > > Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The=20= > popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is=20 > going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that=20 > cause problems. > > -jc > > > On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote=20= > in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb=20= > won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from=20 > the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in=20= > many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus=20= > all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that=20 > just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern=20= > Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole > = sout. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ralph Walter > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to=20= > my shame. > > > > What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing=20= > Dubya. > > Ralph > --Apple-Mail-9--881607799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you. -jc On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>=A0Trying to sound less arrogant as I actuall am, that you can't come up with a snappy response recomends you well.</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>jh</smaller></fontfamily> ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>John Callan</color></underline> <bold>To:</bold> = <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS@MAELSTR= OM.STJOHNS.EDU</color></underline> <bold>Sent:</bold> Monday, February 24, 2003 10:36 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution I have to agree that that is a problem. I don't have a snappy come-back. -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:07 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: John, the problem with "evidence" is, who's collecting it. The one's doing the irregularities are the authorities charged with investigation. ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline>John Callan </underline><bold>To:</bold> = <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS@MAELSTR= OM.STJOHNS.EDU </color></underline><bold>Sent:</bold> Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution Jim, Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my right to due process). Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of representatives...enough is enough! Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that cause problems. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole sout. jh ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline>Ralph Walter </underline><bold>To:</bold> <underline>[log in to unmask] </underline><bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, <underline>[log in to unmask]</underline> writes: Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to my shame. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing Dubya. Ralph </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-9--881607799-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:03:58 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution In-Reply-To: <002801c2dc2c$f8f03a00$6401a8c0@jimhicks> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11--880837924 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-11--880837924 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I remain more confident in the American People than you or HL, apparently. -jc On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > I think most of you middle class whites do have confidence in the way > things are playing out at the moment (of course that is if you still > have yours- maybe talk to some ex Enron employees to get their slant > on the current state of "r d") but if you look a little past your > edges I think your confidence will be eroded a mite. > Maybe not; I think the H L Menkin quote about something to the effect > that 'no-one ever went broke overestimating the mediocrity of the > American public' comes into play here. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:39 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > I'm just not as discouraged as you appear to be, and I'm more > confidient in "representative democracy" than you are. > > -jc > > On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:11 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > Popular vote etc. I think that is why there is a senate with two reps > from each state no matter how large or small the population. > I think the main problem is are we living in a democracy or a > capitolacracy? > It seems to me democracy = capitol in this country and the more > capitol the more democracy. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > Jim, > > Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and > if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be > charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my > right to due process). > > Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, > California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them > politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany > of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the > cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the > wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys > in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little > 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of > representatives...enough is enough! > > Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The > popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is > going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that > cause problems. > > -jc > > > On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: > > It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote > in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb > won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from > the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in > many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus > all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that > just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern > Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole > sout. > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ralph Walter > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution > > In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to > my shame. > > > > What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing > Dubya. > > Ralph > --Apple-Mail-11--880837924 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII I remain more confident in the American People than you or HL, apparently. -jc On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>I think most of you middle class whites do have confidence in the way things are playing out at the moment (of course that is if you still have yours- maybe talk to some ex Enron employees to get their slant on the current state of "r d") but if you look a little past your edges I think your confidence will be eroded a mite.</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Maybe not; I think the H L Menkin quote about something to the effect that 'no-one ever went broke overestimating the mediocrity of the American public' comes into play here.</smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>jh</smaller></fontfamily> ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>John Callan</color></underline> <bold>To:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[log in to unmask]</color></underline> <bold>Sent:</bold> Monday, February 24, 2003 10:39 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution I'm just not as discouraged as you appear to be, and I'm more confidient in "representative democracy" than you are. -jc On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:11 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: Popular vote etc. I think that is why there is a senate with two reps from each state no matter how large or small the population. I think the main problem is are we living in a democracy or a capitolacracy? It seems to me democracy = capitol in this country and the more capitol the more democracy. jh ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline>John Callan </underline><bold>To:</bold> <underline>[log in to unmask] </underline><bold>Sent:</bold> Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution Jim, Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my right to due process). Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida, California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of representatives...enough is enough! Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that cause problems. -jc On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote: It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole sout. jh ----- Original Message ----- <bold>From:</bold> <underline>Ralph Walter </underline><bold>To:</bold> <underline>[log in to unmask] </underline><bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM <bold>Subject:</bold> Re: Iraq response & Constitution In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, <underline>[log in to unmask]</underline> writes: Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to my shame. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing Dubya. Ralph </excerpt> --Apple-Mail-11--880837924-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:13:18 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: This was their finest hour ... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15--880278570 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-15--880278570 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well, they'd both be armed with gas. -jc On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 08:24 PM, Met History wrote: > AOL News:=A0 In an interview with CBS anchor Dan Rather, Saddam = Hussein=20 > challenged President Bush on Monday to an internationally televised=20 > debate ... > --Apple-Mail-15--880278570 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, they'd both be armed with gas. -jc On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 08:24 PM, Met History wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>AOL News:=A0 In an interview with CBS anchor Dan Rather, Saddam Hussein challenged President Bush on Monday to an internationally televised debate = ...</smaller></fontfamily> </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-15--880278570-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:16:02 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: hydro in New England In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Bruce, Which hydro plants in New England? I had relatives who worked in some of them. Ruth At 11:35 AM -0500 2/24/03, Bruce Marcham wrote: >ctb: > >My first job out of college involved working with small hydro in New England >and the first job site I worked had a belt-driven mill that could be driven >by either a Leffel turbine (about 6-8 feet of head) or an immense (to me) >steam engine (it took up about a fifteen by thrity foot room, had about an >eight foot diameter flywheel). The company I worked for provided a new >hydro-electric turbine and made the belt system obsolete (Leffel was rude to >the owner when he visited their plant so he decided to not replace the >original mechanical turbine). The owner sold the shafts and belts but the >steam engine remained (the boiler for it was about as big as the engine room >as I recall but I think firing it up would be too dangerous). -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:53:19 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Shuttle Break up - X files department MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15d.1c5e729c.2b8c5ecf_boundary" --part1_15d.1c5e729c.2b8c5ecf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On the AOL chat rooms (which, if you haven't ever sampled them, are full of learned discourse) a controversy is underway now about whether the Columbia was shot down by .... aliens. Reading backwards over many, many messages, it appears to me that the controversy was started by someone who made a joke, which was then misinterpreted. Yr friend, They Were Expendable --part1_15d.1c5e729c.2b8c5ecf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">On the AOL chat rooms (which, if you haven't eve= r sampled them, are full of learned discourse) a controversy is underway now= about whether the Columbia was shot down by .... aliens. Readin= g backwards over many, many messages, it appears to me that the controversy=20= was started by someone who made a joke, which was then misinterpreted.<BR> <BR> Yr friend, They Were Expendable</FONT></HTML> --part1_15d.1c5e729c.2b8c5ecf_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:34:20 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Winston Churchill, House of Commons, 10.5.1938 - "a bitter cup" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E6_01C2DC54.DF406C60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E6_01C2DC54.DF406C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Winston Churchill, House of Commons, 10.5.1938 - "a = bitter cup" What a great man. Ralph=20 Actually W.C. was a great kid who apparently never grew up verbally. A = few years ago, I curated an exhibit of Victorian Toy Theatres, the = miniature paper and wood table-model theatres for which many famous = plays were written or condensed for use by the children and the = childlike. During Victorian times, especially in England, they were = the popular historic equivalent of TV today, - a box on a table with = dramatic action happening inside for the amusement of people gathered = around watching in the living room after supper. Anyway, Winny = Churchill was a extremely avid toy theatre aficionado as a youth, and = when you read the play scripts published for those plays that he = performed, you will find phrase after phrase of famous lines used in his = public speeches during his famous political career. It is easy to = document. I guess it was just another example of the old English adage = that all the world is a stage. Once you read the old plays, his most = famous speeches begin to sound trite, just simple recitations of = exciting old melodramas. cp in British BC ------=_NextPart_000_00E6_01C2DC54.DF406C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT = lang=3D0 face=3DArial=20 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT=20 face=3Darial,helvetica> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Winston Churchill, = House of=20 Commons, 10.5.1938 - "a bitter cup"</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">What a great man.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT>=20 </FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Actually W.C. was a great kid who = apparently=20 never grew up verbally. A few years ago, I curated an = exhibit of=20 Victorian Toy Theatres, the miniature paper and wood table-model = theatres for=20 which many famous plays were written or condensed for use by the = children and=20 the childlike. During Victorian times, especially in = England,=20 they were the popular historic equivalent of TV today, = - a box=20 on a table with dramatic action happening inside for the amusement of = people=20 gathered around watching in the living room after = supper. =20 Anyway, Winny Churchill was a extremely avid toy theatre aficionado as a = youth,=20 and when you read the play scripts published for those plays that he = performed,=20 you will find phrase after phrase of famous lines used in his = public=20 speeches during his famous political career. It is easy to=20 document. I guess it was just another example of the old = English=20 adage that all the world is a stage. Once you read the old = plays,=20 his most famous speeches begin to sound trite, just simple recitations = of=20 exciting old melodramas.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp in British = BC</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00E6_01C2DC54.DF406C60-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:57:43 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Eve & Festus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The Cayuga Lumber mill couldn't have been run via water power as there is no > head available and the flow is pretty low much of the time. I recall going to a belt and lineshaft driven wood working shop and lumber yard in Ithaca that I thought was called Cayuga Lumber that was located beside the bridge over the creek just below South Hill and the old GLF office building site, next to the Greyhound Bus terminal behind the Ithaca Hotel and across from Zinks. Was that Aurora Street? First Street crossing State Street when you arrived downtown from East Hill. I thought the wood shop was run by water power from the creek, a turbine beneath the building, and it was magical. I remember the lumber yard moving down to the other end of town and I missed the wonderful magic of the belts and pulleys in the new place that was all clean and new and dull. The woodwork shop at the old place beside the creek (was that Fall Creek?) had windows all along the creekside to bathe the shop with natural light, and I remember as a young child, looking down from them at the raging creek roaring and boiling down the channelled creekway during a Spring flood just below the open windows. cp reminiscing in bc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:50:10 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "M. P. Edison" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: This was their finest hour ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > In a message dated 2/24/2003 9:24:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > AOL News: In an interview with CBS anchor Dan Rather, Saddam Hussein > > challenged President Bush on Monday to an internationally televised debate > > ... > > Forget the debate. But it would be interesting to see which of them has > better command of the English language. > > Ralph > > Forget the language. Let's see 'em go 10 rounds with Tonya Harding as referee. Edison Coatings, Inc. M. P. Edison President 3 Northwest Drive Plainville, CT 06062 USA Phone: (860)747-2220 Fax: (860)747-2280 email: [log in to unmask] Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:40:23 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_xK2Wx8lDMX92+e2WSQ0FKA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_xK2Wx8lDMX92+e2WSQ0FKA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ralph - More power to the woman - she has to live with your remarks more than any of us do! - Pam -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ralph Walter Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 5:55 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! In a message dated 2/24/2003 5:47:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Thanks, Ralph, I smell like that remark.... Pam, If you think my remarks stink, well, you should talk to Mrs. Ralph. Any way you want to take that is fine. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_xK2Wx8lDMX92+e2WSQ0FKA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=930283913-25022003>Ralph -</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=930283913-25022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=930283913-25022003>More power to the woman - she has to live with your remarks more than any of us do!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=930283913-25022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=930283913-25022003>- Pam</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ralph Walter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 24, 2003 5:55 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!!<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/24/2003 5:47:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SCRIPT"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE">Thanks, Ralph, I smell like that remark....</FONT><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" lang=0 size=3 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SCRIPT"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=2 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Pam,<BR><BR>If you think my remarks stink, well, you should talk to Mrs. Ralph. <BR><BR>Any way you want to take that is fine. <BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_xK2Wx8lDMX92+e2WSQ0FKA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:13:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: First Nigerian response I have ever received... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11.b2c4644.2b8cd3f0_boundary" --part1_11.b2c4644.2b8cd3f0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subj: Urgent Attention Date: 2/25/03 8:45:54 AM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> Dear Mr. Christopher Gray, Thanks very much for your response which vital point has been noted. Be informed that for your co-operation, you will be entitted to 30% of the total money involved. So get back to me immediately and give me your bank particulars, phone and fax numbers. For easy communication. Best Regards John Gbemiga --part1_11.b2c4644.2b8cd3f0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Subj: <B>Urgent Attention </B> <BR> Date: 2/25/03 8:45:54 AM Eastern Standard Time <BR> From: <A HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> =20= <BR> To: <A HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> <BR> <BR> Dear Mr. Christopher Gray,<BR> Thanks very much for your response which vital point has been&nb= sp; noted. Be informed that for your co-operation, you wil= l be entitted to 30% of the total money involved. So get back to= me immediately and give me your bank particulars, phone and fax= numbers. For easy communication.<BR> <BR> Best Regards John Gbemiga<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_11.b2c4644.2b8cd3f0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:15:44 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: First Nigerian response I have ever received... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MUDnj4cYGRB8gyDwytu8QQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_MUDnj4cYGRB8gyDwytu8QQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Keep ftringing them along, Chrif. -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met History Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:13 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: First Nigerian response I have ever received... Subj: Urgent Attention Date: 2/25/03 8:45:54 AM Eastern Standard Time From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Dear Mr. Christopher Gray, Thanks very much for your response which vital point has been noted. Be informed that for your co-operation, you will be entitted to 30% of the total money involved. So get back to me immediately and give me your bank particulars, phone and fax numbers. For easy communication. Best Regards John Gbemiga --Boundary_(ID_MUDnj4cYGRB8gyDwytu8QQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=529311514-25022003>Keep ftringing them along, Chrif.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Met History<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> First Nigerian response I have ever received...<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Subj: <B>Urgent Attention </B><BR>Date: 2/25/03 8:45:54 AM Eastern Standard Time <BR>From: <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> <BR>To: <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> <BR><BR>Dear Mr. Christopher Gray,<BR>Thanks very much for your response which vital point has been noted. Be informed that for your co-operation, you will be entitted to 30% of the total money involved. So get back to me immediately and give me your bank particulars, phone and fax numbers. For easy communication.<BR><BR>Best Regards John Gbemiga<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_MUDnj4cYGRB8gyDwytu8QQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:26:02 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Lisa Sasser <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Winston Churchill, House of Commons,10.5.1938 - "a bitter cup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII <HTML><HEAD> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2712.300" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>][Ken, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>How can you fail to be moved and reassured by eloquence like this:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> <P>"The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself."—George W. Bush, Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003</P> <P>Lisa</P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 2/24/2003 12:40:42 PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Winston Churchill, House of Commons,10.5.1938 - "a bitter cup</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face="Times New Roman" size=2 FAMILY="SERIF">This is only the beginning of the reckoning. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Sharpshooter: Churchill's comments would be more reassuring at present if Bush were ever once eloquent. The worry is that when sharp tools are handled by dull apprentices the result is usually some nasty and unexpected cuts. Standing up with a bull horn at ground zero is one thing, having and showing strategic intelligence is another. It is worrisome when the rhetoric of our leading political manager never gets beyond the style of an infomercial. ][<en</FONT> </FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:54:54 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Doesn't Ralph have a beard? Or is he not of the Welsh persuasion? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ce.34d12bd3.2b8cddbe_boundary" --part1_ce.34d12bd3.2b8cddbe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Feb. 11, 2003 -- A clean-shaven face may be the sign of a happy and healthy man. A new study suggests that men who don't shave daily have fewer orgasms and are more likely to suffer a stroke than stubble-free men. British researchers followed 2,438 Welsh men between the ages of 45 and 59 over 20 years and found their shaving habits were significantly related to their health in some unexpected ways. --part1_ce.34d12bd3.2b8cddbe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Feb. 11, 2003 -- A clean-shaven face may be the sign o= f a happy and healthy man. A new study suggests that men who don't shave dai= ly have fewer orgasms and are more likely to suffer a stroke than stubble-fr= ee men. British researchers followed 2,438 Welsh men between the ages of 45=20= and 59 over 20 years and found their shaving habits were significantly relat= ed to their health in some unexpected ways.</FONT></HTML> --part1_ce.34d12bd3.2b8cddbe_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:28:18 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Doesn't Ralph have a beard? Or is he not of the Welsh persuasion? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2DCB8.9D89EB70" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2DCB8.9D89EB70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So much for the legend of Samson ey? Subject: Doesn't Ralph have a beard? Or is he not of the Welsh persuasion? Feb. 11, 2003 -- A clean-shaven face may be the sign of a happy and healthy man. A new study suggests that men who don't shave daily have fewer orgasms and are more likely to suffer a stroke than stubble-free men. British researchers followed 2,438 Welsh men between the ages of 45 and 59 over 20 years and found their shaving habits were significantly related to their health in some unexpected ways. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2DCB8.9D89EB70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2DCB8.9C87BDB0"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:553679495 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = face=3DArial FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So much for the legend of Samson <span = class=3DSpellE>ey</span>?</span></font></span><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 = face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</= span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Doesn't Ralph have a beard? Or is he not of the Welsh = persuasion?</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Feb. 11, 2003 -- A = clean-shaven face may be the sign of a happy and healthy man. A new study suggests that = men who don't shave daily have fewer orgasms and are more likely to suffer a = stroke than stubble-free men. British researchers followed 2,438 Welsh men = between the ages of 45 and 59 over 20 years and found their shaving habits were significantly related to their health in some unexpected = ways.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2DCB8.9D89EB70-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:30:31 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Low Flying War of the Worlds In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2DCB8.EE2524A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2DCB8.EE2524A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>We're all nuts. Ralph<< Kinda sounds like this whole thing is a histo-presto shell game. Rudy (sorry) ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2DCB8.EE2524A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2DCB8.EC0E5290"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Roman" FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt; color:navy'>>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;background:white'= >We're all nuts.<br> <br> Ralph<<<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span><span class=3DSpellE>Kinda</span> sounds like this whole thing is a <span = class=3DSpellE>histo</span>-presto shell game.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Rudy (sorry)<font color=3Dnavy><span = style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2DCB8.EE2524A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:08:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Shuttle Break up - X files department MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2d.2b6e5775.2b8cef13_boundary" --part1_2d.2b6e5775.2b8cef13_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a controversy is underway now about whether the Columbia was shot down by .... aliens. Sharpshooter: Thanks for the heads up on factional research. If it was aliens then why did they not just swallow the pill? ][<en --part1_2d.2b6e5775.2b8cef13_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">a controversy is underway now about whether the=20= Columbia was shot down by .... aliens.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0= 00000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FAC= E=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Sharpshooter: Thanks for the heads up on factional research. If it was alien= s then why did they not just swallow the pill? ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_2d.2b6e5775.2b8cef13_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:43:05 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c6.5a86db5.2b8cf719_boundary" --part1_1c6.5a86db5.2b8cf719_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (was that Fall Creek?) Was it Six Mile Creek? --part1_1c6.5a86db5.2b8cf719_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">(was that Fall Creek?)</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Was it Six Mile Creek?</FONT></HTML> --part1_1c6.5a86db5.2b8cf719_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:44:05 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f3.28e57620.2b8cf755_boundary" --part1_f3.28e57620.2b8cf755_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Was that Aurora Street? First Street crossing State Street when you arrived downtown from East Hill. Aurora sounds right... and it would be Six Mile Creek. --part1_f3.28e57620.2b8cf755_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Was that Aurora Street? First Street crossing St= ate Street when you arrived downtown from East Hill. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Aurora sounds right... and it would be Six Mile Creek.</FONT></HTML> --part1_f3.28e57620.2b8cf755_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:52:26 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OK, fine, I'm voting the straight Saddam Hussein ticket next time... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16d.192d3b63.2b8cf94a_boundary" --part1_16d.192d3b63.2b8cf94a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sharpshooter, Hey, I'm not in favor of SH proliferating... but neither am I in favor of promoting the dumbing down of leadership. The administration may very well be correct in their assessment of the situation regarding Iraq, but when the story comes out from the lips of someone who tends to border on imitating a babbling moron I just don't think that it is either good marketing, or good business. When I am at my worse in the afternoons and can hardly talk on the phone without stuttering and slurring my speech I tend to stay away from answering the phone. I don't consider that it means I have totally lost my mind or that the fundamental reason of my actions is diminished. Then again, I would be a fool to think that poor presentation would sell my program, leastways not often in an optimal manner. Why Republicans should expect that Bush would present their program well, or carry forth arguments in a manner to convince other nations, is what I question. I think it difficult to say that there is not more confidence in the presentations of Powell and Rumsfeld than those of Bush. If the situation is as important as the administration says it is then they should consider their mode of presentation. Putting a robe on justice is not exactly what I want to see either. ][<en --part1_16d.192d3b63.2b8cf94a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Sharpshooter,<BR> <BR> Hey, I'm not in favor of SH proliferating... but neither am I in favor of pr= omoting the dumbing down of leadership. The administration may very well be=20= correct in their assessment of the situation regarding Iraq, but when the st= ory comes out from the lips of someone who tends to border on imitating a ba= bbling moron I just don't think that it is either good marketing, or good bu= siness. When I am at my worse in the afternoons and can hardly talk on the p= hone without stuttering and slurring my speech I tend to stay away from answ= ering the phone. I don't consider that it means I have totally lost my mind=20= or that the fundamental reason of my actions is diminished. Then again, I wo= uld be a fool to think that poor presentation would sell my program, leastwa= ys not often in an optimal manner. Why Republicans should expect that Bush w= ould present their program well, or carry forth arguments in a manner to con= vince other nations, is what I question. I think it difficult to say that th= ere is not more confidence in the presentations of Powell and Rumsfeld than=20= those of Bush. If the situation is as important as the administration says i= t is then they should consider their mode of presentation. Putting a robe on= justice is not exactly what I want to see either.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_16d.192d3b63.2b8cf94a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:22:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Shuttle Break up -Catch 22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c3.30d805ae.2b8d0071_boundary" --part1_c3.30d805ae.2b8d0071_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 12:54:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > On the AOL chat rooms (which, if you haven't ever sampled them, are full of > learned discourse) a controversy is underway now about whether the Columbia > was shot down by .... aliens. Reading backwards over many, many messages, > it appears to me that the controversy was started by someone who made a > joke, which was then misinterpreted. Those of us old enough to remember (but not too old to be unable to remember) might keep in mind the LePage's Glue Gun in Catch 22, which was said to be able to glue together an entire group of planes in mid-air. Testicle Cat --part1_c3.30d805ae.2b8d0071_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 12:54:01 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">On the AOL chat rooms (which, if you haven't ever sam= pled them, are full of learned discourse) a controversy is underway now abou= t whether the Columbia was shot down by .... aliens. Reading bac= kwards over many, many messages, it appears to me that the controversy was s= tarted by someone who made a joke, which was then misinterpreted.</BLOCKQUOT= E></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Those of us old enough= to remember (but not too old to be unable to remember) might keep in mind t= he LePage's Glue Gun in Catch 22, which was said to be able to glue together= an entire group of planes in mid-air.<BR> <BR> Testicle Cat<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_c3.30d805ae.2b8d0071_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:28:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_21.2c22e634.2b8d01c2_boundary" --part1_21.2c22e634.2b8d01c2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 2:05:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I recall going to a belt and lineshaft driven wood working shop and lumber > yard in Ithaca that I thought was called Cayuga Lumber that was located > beside the bridge over the creek just below South Hill and the old GLF > office building site, next to the Greyhound Bus terminal behind the Ithaca > Hotel and across from Zinks. Interesting that you guys remember seeing those things in operation. I believe that one of the Laurel & Hardy movies shot in a lumber yard (very possibly the Hal Roach carpentry shop which would have been built in the lateTeens at the earliest and 20's at the latest) had a belt-driven system, but I never saw any myself in LA in the 50's, and never saw one for real until I saw the Edison Lavatory in the 70's. I guess the point of this is that the belts would appear to have been in fairly common use at least until the 30's. Ralph --part1_21.2c22e634.2b8d01c2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 2:05:10 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I recall going to a belt and li= neshaft driven wood working shop and lumber<BR> yard in Ithaca that I thought was called Cayuga Lumber that was located<BR> beside the bridge over the creek just below South Hill and the old GLF<BR> office building site, next to the Greyhound Bus terminal behind the Ithaca<B= R> Hotel and across from Zinks. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Interesting that you guys remember seeing those things in operation. I= believe that one of the Laurel & Hardy movies shot in a lumber yard (ve= ry possibly the Hal Roach carpentry shop which would have been built in the=20= lateTeens at the earliest and 20's at the latest) had a belt-driven system,=20= but I never saw any myself in LA in the 50's, and never saw one for real unt= il I saw the Edison Lavatory in the 70's. I guess the point of this is= that the belts would appear to have been in fairly common use at least unti= l the 30's.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_21.2c22e634.2b8d01c2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:33:54 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Must have had bad weather this weekend!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_188.15d8733a.2b8d0302_boundary" --part1_188.15d8733a.2b8d0302_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 8:40:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ralph - > > More power to the woman - she has to live with your remarks more than any > of us do! > > - Pam > Pam, Actually Mrs. Ralph often complains about how I don't talk at home, and spend too much time with the Pinheads. I suspect this is a common state of affairs among husbands and wives. Ralph --part1_188.15d8733a.2b8d0302_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 8:40:13 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Ralph -</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGR= OUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"= ><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">More power to the woman= - she has to live with your remarks more than any of us do!</FONT><FONT CO= LOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSS= ERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">- Pam</FONT><FONT COLO= R=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSER= IF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Pam,<BR> <BR> Actually Mrs. Ralph often complains about how I don't talk at home, an= d spend too much time with the Pinheads. I suspect this is a common st= ate of affairs among husbands and wives. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_188.15d8733a.2b8d0302_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:37:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: First Nigerian response I have ever received... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11a.1ee1dcb7.2b8d03f0_boundary" --part1_11a.1ee1dcb7.2b8d03f0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 9:13:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > So get back to me immediately and give me your bank particulars, phone and > fax numbers. For easy communication. > Chris, It must be legit. He didn't ask for your PIN number. Ralph --part1_11a.1ee1dcb7.2b8d03f0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 9:13:46 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">So get back to me immediately a= nd give me your bank particulars, phone and fax numbers. F= or easy communication.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Chris,<BR> <BR> It must be legit. He didn't ask for your PIN number.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_11a.1ee1dcb7.2b8d03f0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:50:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Doesn't Ralph have a beard? Or is he not of the Welsh persuasion? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12b.23dd27cd.2b8d06cf_boundary" --part1_12b.23dd27cd.2b8d06cf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 9:55:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Feb. 11, 2003 -- A clean-shaven face may be the sign of a happy and healthy > man. A new study suggests that men who don't shave daily have fewer orgasms > and are more likely to suffer a stroke than stubble-free men. British > researchers followed 2,438 Welsh men between the ages of 45 and 59 over 20 > years and found their shaving habits were significantly related to their > health in some unexpected ways. Well, I'm not a Welshman, and never played one on TV (although I was Captain Keller and Clarence Day Sr on the stage), but there may be something to this. On the other hand, are we supposed to believe that all these stubble-faced movie and music stars aren't getting any? Or at least are getting less than they might if they looked presentable. Then again, maybe these teen idols were clean-shaven when they began fornicating, and when we see them on TV, have just gotten out of bed after marathon nookathons without having had time to shave. It's all very depressing. Ralph --part1_12b.23dd27cd.2b8d06cf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 9:55:47 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Feb. 11, 2003 -- A clean-shaven= face may be the sign of a happy and healthy man. A new study suggests that=20= men who don't shave daily have fewer orgasms and are more likely to suffer a= stroke than stubble-free men. British researchers followed 2,438 Welsh men=20= between the ages of 45 and 59 over 20 years and found their shaving habits w= ere significantly related to their health in some unexpected ways.</FONT><FO= NT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Well, I'm not a Welshman, and never played one on TV (although I was Captain= Keller and Clarence Day Sr on the stage), but there may be something to thi= s.<BR> <BR> On the other hand, are we supposed to believe that all these stubble-faced m= ovie and music stars aren't getting any? Or at least are getting less=20= than they might if they looked presentable.<BR> <BR> Then again, maybe these teen idols were clean-shaven when they began fornica= ting, and when we see them on TV, have just gotten out of bed after marathon= nookathons without having had time to shave.<BR> <BR> It's all very depressing.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_12b.23dd27cd.2b8d06cf_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:51:42 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Doesn't Ralph have a beard? Or is he not of the Welsh persuasion? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_163.1c577cdc.2b8d072e_boundary" --part1_163.1c577cdc.2b8d072e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:30:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > So much for the legend of Samson ey? What, are you Canadian, too? As for Samson, as I remember, it was a Woman who betrayed him. Ralph --part1_163.1c577cdc.2b8d072e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:30:45 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">So much for the legend of Samson ey?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> What, are you Canadian, too? As for Samson, as I remember, it was a Wo= man who betrayed him. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_163.1c577cdc.2b8d072e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:52:43 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Low Flying War of the Worlds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_71.2dcab5c9.2b8d076b_boundary" --part1_71.2dcab5c9.2b8d076b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:32:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Kinda sounds like this whole thing is a histo-presto shell game. Rudy, THAT sounds like facadism, which I thought was long discredited. Ralph --part1_71.2dcab5c9.2b8d076b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:32:25 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Kinda sounds like this whole th= ing is a histo-presto shell game.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000= " style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"= Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Rudy,<BR> <BR> THAT sounds like facadism, which I thought was long discredited.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_71.2dcab5c9.2b8d076b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:05:35 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OK, fine, I'm voting the straight Saddam Hussein ticket next time... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a2.10f474dc.2b8d0a6f_boundary" --part1_1a2.10f474dc.2b8d0a6f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 11:54:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Why Republicans should expect that Bush would present their program well, or > carry forth arguments in a manner to convince other nations, is what I > question. I think he is, as Reagan was far more effectively, a front-man > for business interests. God knows for whom the Democrats are front men. I > think it difficult to say that there is not more confidence in the > presentations of Powell and Rumsfeld than those of Bush. I am sorry to > admit that Cheney comes across very well, too, or at least he used to on > the Sunday AM talk shows before they shut him up because Bush looks so > amateurish in comparison. Doesn't anybody else remember how much better > Cheney and Lieberman looked in the Veep Debates than Dubya and Gore looked > in theirs? Cheney, Rummy, and Powell really give me the impression that > they know what they're doing, and how to do it; I just don't like what they > do (especially Cheney, who I think of as Jabba the Hutt.) I think the > problem is that They picked a dummy as a front man and now can't be seen to > upstage him. If the situation is as important as the administration says it > is then they should consider their mode of presentation. Putting a robe on > justice is not exactly what I want to see either. > Ralph --part1_1a2.10f474dc.2b8d0a6f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 11:54:09 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Why Republicans should expect t= hat Bush would present their program well, or carry forth arguments in a man= ner to convince other nations, is what I question. <B>I think he is, as Reag= an was far more effectively, a front-man for business interests. God k= nows for whom the Democrats are front men. </B>I think it difficult to say t= hat there is not more confidence in the presentations of Powell and Rumsfeld= than those of Bush. <B>I am sorry to admit that Cheney comes across very we= ll, too, or at least he used to on the Sunday AM talk shows before they shut= him up because Bush looks so amateurish in comparison. Doesn't anybody else= remember how much better Cheney and Lieberman looked in the Veep Debates th= an Dubya and Gore looked in theirs?</B> <B>Cheney, Rummy, and Powell really=20= give me the impression that they know what they're doing, and how to do it;=20= I just don't like what they do (especially Cheney, who I think of as Jabba t= he Hutt.) I think the problem is that They picked a dummy as a front m= an and now can't be seen to upstage him. </B>If the situation is as importan= t as the administration says it is then they should consider their mode of p= resentation. Putting a robe on justice is not exactly what I want to s= ee either.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Ralph</B><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1a2.10f474dc.2b8d0a6f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:20:20 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: 10-4 on that good buddy, but remember, in the United States... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e6.3661c295.2b8d0de4_boundary" --part1_e6.3661c295.2b8d0de4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/03 11:54:09 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > Why Republicans should expect that Bush would present their program well, or > carry forth arguments in a manner to convince other nations, is what I > ....we can't be too picky about our elected officials. Sign me, "In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks you take." --Adlai Stevenson --part1_e6.3661c295.2b8d0de4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/03 11:54:09 AM, ARWNY@AO= L.COM writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Why Republicans should expe= ct that Bush would present their program well, or carry forth arguments in a= manner to convince other nations, is what I question.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>....we can't be too picky about our elected officials. <BR> <BR>Sign me, <BR> <BR>"In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks you ta= ke." <BR> --Adlai Stevenson=20 <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_e6.3661c295.2b8d0de4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:27:03 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Tonya vs Monica MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6FBD651653120B0996B8EE60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6FBD651653120B0996B8EE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,902793 --------------6FBD651653120B0996B8EE60 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------6FBD651653120B0996B8EE60-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:57:42 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 10-4 on that good buddy, but remember, in the United States... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e4.3590d770.2b8d24b6_boundary" --part1_e4.3590d770.2b8d24b6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ....we can't be too picky about our elected officials. LOL! Neither can we be too picky about our non-elected officials. --part1_e4.3590d770.2b8d24b6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">....we can't be too picky about our elected offi= cials. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLO= R: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> LOL! Neither can we be too picky about our non-elected officials.</FONT></HT= ML> --part1_e4.3590d770.2b8d24b6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:00:34 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: First Nigerian response I have ever received... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 9:13:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Best Regards John Gbemiga Funny, When I told John to go fuck himself, I got no response. V.I. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:27:02 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Eve & Festus In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_xLAmDsgMdzpNmKTsnWbb8A)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_xLAmDsgMdzpNmKTsnWbb8A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yes, the one school buses always lose their brakes on - ran right by Rothchild's. -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ken Follett Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:44 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Eve & Festus Was that Aurora Street? First Street crossing State Street when you arrived downtown from East Hill. Aurora sounds right... and it would be Six Mile Creek. --Boundary_(ID_xLAmDsgMdzpNmKTsnWbb8A) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=224362620-25022003>Yes, the one school buses always lose their brakes on - ran right by Rothchild's.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken Follett<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:44 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Eve & Festus<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Was that Aurora Street? First Street crossing State Street when you arrived downtown from East Hill. <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Aurora sounds right... and it would be Six Mile Creek.</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_xLAmDsgMdzpNmKTsnWbb8A)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:52:45 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2DCFF.164A6260" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2DCFF.164A6260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Subject: I'm in the gutter Dear fellow Pinheads: This includes Ralph by the way. I have a potential client who is involved with a church project. The church dates back to 1769. They have had members of the church over the years repoint the lower sections of the building. Man what a fuster cluck. Anyway I have recommended that they need to seriously look at installing gutters along the building to stop future deterioration of the mortar and also to stop raising dampness which I think is contributing to their lower interior plaster problems. Of course the latex paint that the congregation continues to apply over the plaster to hide the water stains and deteriorating plaster does not help either. What do you think would be compatible guttering? Will copper or wood work? Steve<< Sorry for the slow response here. I've been too swamped for anything but the occasional wittlessicism. We are currently rebuilding an 1815 timber frame church originally built in Oxford, NY. Overall the frame did pretty well, but there was severe damage all along the eave lines and the chimney flashing. Discussing this problem with Jan Lewandoski (who has been on top of more churches than any self respecting BPer would try to count) I came away convinced the implimitation of modern gutters were probably a principle cause of the rot. The church has wide overhangs which would tend to form ice dams. The addition of gutters very likely exacerbated this condition and added one more dam. My recommendation would be to consider ground level diversion first and oversized gutters and downspouts second with snow melters along the eave lines. Down on, but not in, the gutter so far. Rudy ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2DCFF.164A6260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2DCFF.1535BE10"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"State"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PersonName"/> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:553679495 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} @font-face {font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; panose-1:3 15 7 2 3 3 2 2 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:script; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:647 0 0 0 159 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 = face=3DTahoma FAMILY=3DSCRIPT><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight: bold'>>>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 = face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> I'm in the = gutter</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans = MS";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Dear fellow Pinheads:<br> <br> This includes Ralph by the way. I have a potential client who is = involved with a church project. The church dates back to 1769. They have had members = of the church over the years repoint the lower sections of the building. Man = what a fuster cluck. Anyway I have recommended that they need to seriously look = at installing gutters along the building to stop future deterioration of = the mortar and also to stop raising dampness which I think is contributing = to their lower interior plaster problems. Of course the latex paint that the congregation continues to apply over the plaster to hide the water = stains and deteriorating plaster does not help either. What do you think would be compatible guttering? Will copper or wood work?<br> <br> Steve<font color=3Dnavy><span = style=3D'color:navy'><<</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Sorry for the slow response here. I’ve been too swamped for anything but = the occasional <span class=3DSpellE>wittlessicism</span>. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>We are currently rebuilding an 1815 </span></font><st1:PersonName><font = size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'>tim</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ber frame church originally built in = </span></font><st1:place><st1:City><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'>Oxford</span></font></st1:City><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, = </span></font><st1:State><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'>NY</span></font></st1:State></st1:place><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>. Overall the frame did pretty well, but there was severe damage all along the = eave lines and the chimney flashing. Discussing this problem with Jan <span = class=3DSpellE>Lewandoski</span> (who has been on top of more churches than any self respecting <span class=3DSpellE>BPer</span> would try to count) I came away convinced the implimitation of modern gutters were probably a principle cause of the = rot. The church has wide overhangs which would tend to form ice dams. The = addition of gutters very likely exacerbated this condition and added one more dam. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My = recommendation would be to consider ground level diversion first and oversized gutters and = downspouts second with snow <span class=3DSpellE>melters</span> along the eave = lines. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Down on, but not = in, the gutter so far.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rudy<o:p></o:p></= span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= </span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2DCFF.164A6260-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:02:31 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 10-4 on that good buddy, but remember, in the United States... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12e.24078e68.2b8d8847_boundary" --part1_12e.24078e68.2b8d8847_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 2:58:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > ....we can't be too picky about our elected officials. > > > > LOL! Neither can we be too picky about our non-elected officials. I think we can be plenty picky. It's just not going to do any damn good. But we still shouldn't let the bastards get us down. Ralph --part1_12e.24078e68.2b8d8847_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 2:58:53 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">....we can't be too picky about our elected officials= . </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> LOL! Neither can we be too picky about our non-elected officials.</FONT><FON= T COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"= SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I think we can be plenty pic= ky. It's just not going to do any damn good. But we <U>still</U>= shouldn't let the bastards get us down.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_12e.24078e68.2b8d8847_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:03:27 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: First Nigerian response I have ever received... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_102.27875450.2b8d887f_boundary" --part1_102.27875450.2b8d887f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 3:02:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > When I told John to go fuck himself, I got no response. > Obviously Sharpshooter did it better. Or maybe you misspelled his name. Ralph --part1_102.27875450.2b8d887f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 3:02:22 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">When I told John to go fuck him= self, I got no response.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Obviously Sharpshooter did it better. Or maybe you misspelled his name= .<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_102.27875450.2b8d887f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:06:56 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: First Nigerian response I have ever received... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--797860356 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2--797860356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Maybe he's too busy following your instructions to reply just now. -jc On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:03 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/25/2003 3:02:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > When I told John to go fuck himself, I got no response. > > > > Obviously Sharpshooter did it better.=A0 Or maybe you misspelled his=20= > name. > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-2--797860356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe he's too busy following your instructions to reply just now. -jc On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:03 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/25/2003 3:02:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>When I told John to go fuck himself, I got no response. Obviously Sharpshooter did it better.=A0 Or maybe you misspelled his name. Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2--797860356-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:46:06 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Old workshops In-Reply-To: <011401c2dc9b$6ba1c280$bc2266cf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A friend of ours has a machine shop that used to be like that. His Dad had it and his Granddad before that, and for all I know maybe other ancestors before him. It is a wonderful place to visit even now that Lester uses more modern equipment. All the old stuff is still there. When I was in high school I used to walk by there in warm weather just to see the belts and pulleys going round and round and to hear the hypnotic slap of the belts. I have no idea what was going on in there just loved the sound. Ruth At 10:57 PM -0800 2/24/03, Cuyler Page wrote: >> The Cayuga Lumber mill couldn't have been run via water power as there is >no >> head available and the flow is pretty low much of the time. > >I recall going to a belt and lineshaft driven wood working shop and lumber >yard in Ithaca that I thought was called Cayuga Lumber that was located >beside the bridge over the creek just below South Hill and the old GLF >office building site, next to the Greyhound Bus terminal behind the Ithaca >Hotel and across from Zinks. Was that Aurora Street? First Street >crossing State Street when you arrived downtown from East Hill. I thought >the wood shop was run by water power from the creek, a turbine beneath the >building, and it was magical. I remember the lumber yard moving down to >the other end of town and I missed the wonderful magic of the belts and >pulleys in the new place that was all clean and new and dull. The woodwork >shop at the old place beside the creek (was that Fall Creek?) had windows >all along the creekside to bathe the shop with natural light, and I remember >as a young child, looking down from them at the raging creek roaring and >boiling down the channelled creekway during a Spring flood just below the >open windows. > >cp reminiscing in bc -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:18:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f7.2923b90d.2b8d8c0f_boundary" --part1_f7.2923b90d.2b8d8c0f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 6:55:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I came away convinced the implimitation of modern gutters were probably a > principle cause of the rot. The church has wide overhangs which would tend > to form ice dams. The addition of gutters very likely exacerbated this > condition and added one more dam. Ah hah!!! My only question is how ice dams would have formed without gutters in the first place, since it seems to me that the snow and ice would just keep running off and would never get a chance to form a dam. I get icicles on my roof in several places, but don't think they form dams. Or do they? Ralph --part1_f7.2923b90d.2b8d8c0f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 6:55:23 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0">I came away convinced the implimitation of modern gutters w= ere probably a principle cause of the rot. The church has wide overhangs whi= ch would tend to form ice dams. The addition of gutters very likely exacerba= ted this condition and added one more dam. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ah hah!!! <BR> <BR> My only question is how ice dams would have formed without gutters in the fi= rst place, since it seems to me that the snow and ice would just keep runnin= g off and would never get a chance to form a dam. <BR> <BR> I get icicles on my roof in several places, but don't <U>think</U> they form= dams. Or do they?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_f7.2923b90d.2b8d8c0f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:20:02 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Old workshops MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_169.1b35720f.2b8d8c62_boundary" --part1_169.1b35720f.2b8d8c62_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:11:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I have no idea what was going on in there just loved the sound. > Ruth, They were probably making sawdust. A most enjoyable process. Ralph --part1_169.1b35720f.2b8d8c62_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:11:32 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I have no idea what was going o= n in there just loved the sound.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Ruth,<BR> <BR> They were probably making sawdust. A most enjoyable process.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_169.1b35720f.2b8d8c62_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:22:05 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: First Nigerian response I have ever received... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a7.1105a079.2b8d8cdd_boundary" --part1_1a7.1105a079.2b8d8cdd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:12:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Maybe he's too busy following your instructions to reply just now. > Thanks, John. I'm just too impatient! V.I. --part1_1a7.1105a079.2b8d8cdd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:12:06 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Maybe he's too busy following y= our instructions to reply just now.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Thanks, John. I'm just too impatient!<BR> <BR> V.I.</FONT></HTML> --part1_1a7.1105a079.2b8d8cdd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:25:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Overhang hangover MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e8.2f3e349.2b8d8dc1_boundary" --part1_1e8.2f3e349.2b8d8dc1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:20:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > My only question is how ice dams would have formed without gutters in the > first place Ralphie- Once the melting stuff, having been warmed by the heat escaping through the roof (at 1.85 per gallon of oil) reaches the eave overhang, where there is no heat coming through the roof, it refreezes and then the cute crystals begin to wedge themselves under the unsuspecting shingles. Dam it. V.I. --part1_1e8.2f3e349.2b8d8dc1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:20:20 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My only question is how ice dam= s would have formed without gutters in the first place</FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Ralphie-<BR> <BR> Once the melting stuff, having been warmed by the heat escaping through the=20= roof (at 1.85 per gallon of oil) reaches the eave overhang, where there is n= o heat coming through the roof, it refreezes and then the cute crystals begi= n to wedge themselves under the unsuspecting shingles. Dam it.<BR> <BR> V.I.</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e8.2f3e349.2b8d8dc1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:25:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: First Nigerian response I have ever received... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12d.23de9204.2b8d8dbc_boundary" --part1_12d.23de9204.2b8d8dbc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:12:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Maybe he's too busy following your instructions to reply just now. I like that idea,and it seems to me that it would fit with the "if a tree falls in the forest..." question. Ralph > ->When I told John to go fuck himself, I got no response. > --part1_12d.23de9204.2b8d8dbc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:12:06 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Maybe he's too busy following y= our instructions to reply just now.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000= 00" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>I like that idea,and it s= eems to me that it would fit with the "if a tree falls in the forest..." que= stion. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZ= E=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">->When I told John to go fuc= k himself, I got no response.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_12d.23de9204.2b8d8dbc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:28:55 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--796541088 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-4--796541088 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed You don't need gutters to form a damn dam. You need an upper part of the roof to warm and create run off, and a lower cooler part, an wide eave will do nicely on a heated building. If the gutter is causing the dam, its probably mounted too high...like all the houses in my neighborhood. Someday I'm gonna get ups some real ambition and go fix mine...or not. -jc On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:18 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/25/2003 6:55:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > I came away convinced the implimitation of modern gutters were > probably a principle cause of the rot. The church has wide overhangs > which would tend to form ice dams. The addition of gutters very likely > exacerbated this condition and added one more dam. > > > > Ah hah!!! > > My only question is how ice dams would have formed without gutters in > the first place, since it seems to me that the snow and ice would just > keep running off and would never get a chance to form a dam. > > I get icicles on my roof in several places, but don't think they form > dams. Or do they? > > Ralph --Apple-Mail-4--796541088 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII You don't need gutters to form a damn dam. You need an upper part of the roof to warm and create run off, and a lower cooler part, an wide eave will do nicely on a heated building. If the gutter is causing the dam, its probably mounted too high...like all the houses in my neighborhood. Someday I'm gonna get ups some real ambition and go fix mine...or not. -jc On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:18 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/25/2003 6:55:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <color><param>0000,0000,8080</param>I came away convinced the implimitation of modern gutters were probably a principle cause of the rot. The church has wide overhangs which would tend to form ice dams. The addition of gutters very likely exacerbated this condition and added one more dam.</color></smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>Ah hah!!! My only question is how ice dams would have formed without gutters in the first place, since it seems to me that the snow and ice would just keep running off and would never get a chance to form a dam. I get icicles on my roof in several places, but don't <underline>think</underline> they form dams. Or do they? Ralph</smaller></color></fontfamily></excerpt> --Apple-Mail-4--796541088-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:32:01 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Overhang hangover MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a2.10fd0b27.2b8d8f31_boundary" --part1_1a2.10fd0b27.2b8d8f31_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:26:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Once the melting stuff, having been warmed by the heat escaping through the > roof (at 1.85 per gallon of oil) reaches the eave overhang, where there is > no heat coming through the roof, it refreezes and then the cute crystals > begin to wedge themselves under the unsuspecting shingles. Dam it. > Twy, So you're telling me that even though I removed my copper gutters (and leaders), I'm still in Deep Shit? Ralph --part1_1a2.10fd0b27.2b8d8f31_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:26:41 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Once the melting stuff, having=20= been warmed by the heat escaping through the roof (at 1.85 per gallon of oil= ) reaches the eave overhang, where there is no heat coming through the roof,= it refreezes and then the cute crystals begin to wedge themselves under the= unsuspecting shingles. Dam it.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Twy,<BR> <BR> So you're telling me that even though I removed my copper gutters (and leade= rs), I'm still in Deep Shit?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1a2.10fd0b27.2b8d8f31_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:33:54 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a8.1096c52a.2b8d8fa2_boundary" --part1_1a8.1096c52a.2b8d8fa2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:29:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You don't need gutters to form a damn dam. You need an upper part of > the roof to warm and create run off, and a lower cooler part, an wide > eave will do nicely on a heated building. Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Noooooooooooooooooo. Ralph --part1_1a8.1096c52a.2b8d8fa2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:29:01 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You don't need gutters to form=20= a damn dam. You need an upper part of<BR> the roof to warm and create run off, and a lower cooler part, an wide<BR> eave will do nicely on a heated building.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Noooooooooooooooooo.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1a8.1096c52a.2b8d8fa2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:41:52 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--795763832 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2--795763832 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oh yes. I think I've just proven my gullibility again. I'm going to=20 slink off...stage right. -jc On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:33 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:29:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > You don't need gutters to form a damn dam.=A0 You need an upper part = of > the roof to warm and create run off, and a lower cooler part, an wide > eave will do nicely on a heated building. > > > > Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Noooooooooooooooooo. > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-2--795763832 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh yes. I think I've just proven my gullibility again. I'm going to slink off...stage right. -jc On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:33 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:29:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>You don't need gutters to form a damn dam.=A0 You need an upper part of the roof to warm and create run off, and a lower cooler part, an wide eave will do nicely on a heated building. Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Noooooooooooooooooo. Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2--795763832-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:53:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4f.2bb99a33.2b8d9443_boundary" --part1_4f.2bb99a33.2b8d9443_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:41:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Oh yes. I think I've just proven my gullibility again. I'm going to > slink off...stage right. > > -jc > John, Whaddaya mean, your gullibility? I thought it was MY turn in the barrel (or gutter, as the case may be). Or we were both there? Ralph --part1_4f.2bb99a33.2b8d9443_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:41:05 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Oh yes. I think I've just= proven my gullibility again. I'm going to <BR> slink off...stage right.<BR> <BR> -jc<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> John,<BR> <BR> Whaddaya mean, <U>your</U> gullibility? I thought it was MY turn in th= e barrel (or gutter, as the case may be). Or we were both there?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_4f.2bb99a33.2b8d9443_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:00:45 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--755031104 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2--755031104 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I thought I had been sucked into lecturing you on the wonders of=20 gutters and ice dams and then sort of remembered that you associate=20 with engineers and then figured I was being being had. Just in case. Gutters are for protecting your foundation and lower=20 siding from roof run off, not for protecting the roof, evee or soffits.=20= They are handy for keeping rain off your head at a door way, but=20 that's not a preservation issue...unless the person is the maintenance=20= guy and you want to keep him healthy. Its nice to keep visiting=20 dignitaries, like architects dry too! If your gutters are hung too close to the roof edge and with too little=20= slope, they will collect snow and ice and hold it against your roof=20 edge and damage the roofing and the materials at the roof edge. It=20 looks like an ice dam and it has the same affect, but its not, its just=20= someone deciding that level looks nicer than sloped...probably someone=20= who got A's in design studio. (Fortunately they mostly work with=20 Dryvit now.) If you truly have ice dams, you need to find a way to cool down the=20 roof so you don't get a lot of melting when the outside temperature is=20= below freezing. Snow on the roof is a good thing. (In the=20 winter...you got winter in New Jersey?) -jc On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:53 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:41:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Oh yes.=A0 I think I've just proven my gullibility again.=A0 I'm going = to > slink off...stage right. > > -jc > > > > John, > > Whaddaya mean, your gullibility?=A0 I thought it was MY turn in the=20 > barrel (or gutter, as the case may be).=A0 Or we were both there? > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-2--755031104 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I thought I had been sucked into lecturing you on the wonders of gutters and ice dams and then sort of remembered that you associate with engineers and then figured I was being being had. =20 Just in case. Gutters are for protecting your foundation and lower siding from roof run off, not for protecting the roof, evee or soffits. They are handy for keeping rain off your head at a door way, but that's not a preservation issue...unless the person is the maintenance guy and you want to keep him healthy. Its nice to keep visiting dignitaries, like architects dry too! If your gutters are hung too close to the roof edge and with too little slope, they will collect snow and ice and hold it against your roof edge and damage the roofing and the materials at the roof edge. It looks like an ice dam and it has the same affect, but its not, its just someone deciding that level looks nicer than sloped...probably someone who got A's in design studio. (Fortunately they mostly work with Dryvit now.) If you truly have ice dams, you need to find a way to cool down the roof so you don't get a lot of melting when the outside temperature is below freezing. Snow on the roof is a good thing. (In the winter...you got winter in New Jersey?) -jc On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:53 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:41:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>Oh yes.=A0 I think I've just proven my gullibility again.=A0 I'm going to slink off...stage right. -jc John, Whaddaya mean, <underline>your</underline> gullibility?=A0 I thought it was MY turn in the barrel (or gutter, as the case may be).=A0 Or we were both there? Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-2--755031104-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:49:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6.af9f12f.2b8e3c13_boundary" --part1_6.af9f12f.2b8e3c13_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/03 10:00:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Snow on the roof is a good thing. (In the winter...you got winter in New > Jersey?) > Yeah, except when it's two feet of light stuff and then it rains, as in the ToysRUs collapse a few days ago. I was surprised - lightweight, long span construction, suddenly loaded by rain drenched snow - that there weren't more collapses. Did other people foresee that, and got the snow off the roof? [ShovelsRUs] Or does anyone have the opinion that maybe there was a little something wrong with the design for that building? Christopher --part1_6.af9f12f.2b8e3c13_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/03 10:00:52 AM Eastern S= tandard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Snow on the roof is a good=20= thing. (In the winter...you got winter in New Jersey?) <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>Yeah, except when it's two feet of light stuff and then it rains, as in=20= the ToysRUs collapse a few days ago. I was surprised - lightweight, lo= ng span construction, suddenly loaded by rain drenched snow - that there wer= en't more collapses. Did other people foresee that, and got the snow o= ff the roof? [ShovelsRUs] Or does anyone have the opinion that maybe t= here was a little something wrong with the design for that building? &= nbsp; Christopher=20 <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_6.af9f12f.2b8e3c13_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:07:35 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A52AD5898B7BC229B9C737EA" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A52AD5898B7BC229B9C737EA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4D385686EE83F1391E1D6E17" --------------4D385686EE83F1391E1D6E17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Met History wrote > > Yeah, except when it's two feet of light stuff and then it rains, as > in the ToysRUs collapse a few days ago. I was surprised - > lightweight, long span construction, suddenly loaded by rain drenched > snow - that there weren't more collapses. Did other people foresee > that, and got the snow off the roof? [ShovelsRUs] Or does anyone have > the opinion that maybe there was a little something wrong with the > design for that building? Christopher From the LIRR you could see that many businesses were busy getting the snow off of the roofs @ thursday past.... --------------4D385686EE83F1391E1D6E17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <p>Met History wrote <blockquote TYPE=CITE> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Yeah, except when it's two feet of light stuff and then it rains, as in the ToysRUs collapse a few days ago. I was surprised - lightweight, long span construction, suddenly loaded by rain drenched snow - that there weren't more collapses. Did other people foresee that, and got the snow off the roof? [ShovelsRUs] Or does anyone have the opinion that maybe there was a little something wrong with the design for that building? Christopher</font></font></font></blockquote> From the LIRR you could see that many businesses were busy getting the snow off of the roofs @ thursday past....</html> --------------4D385686EE83F1391E1D6E17-- --------------A52AD5898B7BC229B9C737EA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------A52AD5898B7BC229B9C737EA-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:09:52 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Overhang hangover MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:32:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I'm still in Deep Shit? Depends on the size of your overhang, big boy. Twybil -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:31:34 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--745981823 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-4--745981823 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Snow on the roof is good. Snow loads greater than what the structure=20 was designed for is not so good. I understand that the amount of rain=20= you received on top of the amount of snow you received was extreme, but=20= was it beyond what could have been reasonably assumed? I haven't had much to do with low sloped roofs...except to repair=20 them, replace them and increase their slope. If snow on a low slope=20 roof causes it to fail, it might be reasonable to question the wisdom=20 of designing such a roof in a region that receives snow...and outdoors. As for removing snow from a roof. That's a dangerous undertaking. =20 Besides the potential for damaging people, you can damage the roof. =20 Lots of people do it...they even advertise special long handled rakes=20 for doing it. They also sell powerwashers to people who don't want to=20= scrape before priming and painting. That don't make it smart. -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 09:49 AM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 2/26/03 10:00:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Snow on the roof is a good thing. =A0(In the winter...you got winter = in=20 > New Jersey?) > > > Yeah, except when it's two feet of light stuff and then it rains, as=20= > in the ToysRUs collapse a few days ago. =A0I was surprised -=20 > lightweight, long span construction, suddenly loaded by rain drenched=20= > snow - that there weren't more collapses. =A0Did other people foresee=20= > that, and got the snow off the roof? [ShovelsRUs] =A0Or does anyone = have=20 > the opinion that maybe there was a little something wrong with the=20 > design for that building? =A0=A0=A0Christopher --Apple-Mail-4--745981823 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Snow on the roof is good. Snow loads greater than what the structure was designed for is not so good. I understand that the amount of rain you received on top of the amount of snow you received was extreme, but was it beyond what could have been reasonably assumed? I haven't had much to do with low sloped roofs...except to repair them, replace them and increase their slope. If snow on a low slope roof causes it to fail, it might be reasonable to question the wisdom of designing such a roof in a region that receives snow...and outdoors. As for removing snow from a roof. That's a dangerous undertaking.=20 Besides the potential for damaging people, you can damage the roof.=20 Lots of people do it...they even advertise special long handled rakes for doing it. They also sell powerwashers to people who don't want to scrape before priming and painting. That don't make it smart. -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 09:49 AM, Met History wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/26/03 10:00:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>Snow on the roof is a good thing. =A0(In the winter...you got winter in New Jersey?) Yeah, except when it's two feet of light stuff and then it rains, as in the ToysRUs collapse a few days ago. =A0I was surprised - lightweight, long span construction, suddenly loaded by rain drenched snow - that there weren't more collapses. =A0Did other people foresee that, and got the snow off the roof? [ShovelsRUs] =A0Or does anyone have the opinion that maybe there was a little something wrong with the design for that building? =A0=A0=A0Christopher </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-4--745981823-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:52:06 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_57.18c02e0f.2b8e58c6_boundary" --part1_57.18c02e0f.2b8e58c6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:51:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Yeah, except when it's two feet of light stuff and then it rains, as in the > ToysRUs collapse a few days ago. The Toys R US collapse was in Maryland, as > I remember, not in Joisey. I was surprised - lightweight, long span > construction, suddenly loaded by rain drenched snow - that there weren't > more collapses. Unfortunate Events Transpire, and I would agree that we > were lucky there weren't more. Somebody's 19th/early 20th C porch roof in > Summit apparently got overloaded and pulled away from the house: I saw it > all distorted and then saw it no longer in place a day later. Did other > people foresee that, and got the snow off the roof? Smart people with flat > or near-flat roofs would do that. [ShovelsRUs] Or does anyone have the > opinion that maybe there was a little something wrong with the design for > that building? This is exactly why forensic investigations are necessary > in these cases, performed by fine firms like mine or a bunch of lying > weasels like all the rest. No doubt Mr Toys (or more precisely, their > insuror) will claim it was a design error, although it is likely that their > box stores are (essentially) the same everywhere. It is also possible that > TRU has in-house archt/engrs who design this stuff, in which case the Owner > will claim it was designed right but built improperly. The Contractor (or > more precisely, his insuror) will no doubt claim that it was either > designed improperly (inadequate drains, inadequate slope, inadequate > framing, etc) , or that the Owner failed to maintain the drains in a clear > condition and/or clean debris from the roof, or failed to make necessary > repairs on the roof in general. It's also possible that the roof was > overloaded by a storm heavier than that anticipated in the code. It's also > possible that it was designed properly, that for some reason somebody > changed the design, that the revised design was built, but that it was > improper. All of the above is another possibility, and if there was a > developer and/or a construction manager involved, then they will get thrown > into the soup with everybody else who might have Done It Vertically. In > any case, it will be the subject of much litigation. I just hope nobody was > injured. Christopher Ralph > --part1_57.18c02e0f.2b8e58c6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:51:39 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Yeah, except when it's two feet of light stuff and th= en it rains, as in the ToysRUs collapse a few days ago. <B>The Toys R US col= lapse was in Maryland, as I remember, not in Joisey.</B> I was surprised - l= ightweight, long span construction, suddenly loaded by rain drenched snow -=20= that there weren't more collapses. <B>Unfortunate Events Transpire, and I wo= uld agree that we were lucky there weren't more. Somebody's 19th/early= 20th C porch roof in Summit apparently got overloaded and pulled away from=20= the house: I saw it all distorted and then saw it no longer in place a day l= ater. </B> Did other people foresee that, and got the snow off the roof= ? <B>Smart people with flat or near-flat roofs would do that.</B> [ShovelsRU= s] Or does anyone have the opinion that maybe there was a little somet= hing wrong with the design for that building? <B>This is exactly why f= orensic investigations are necessary in these cases, performed by fine firms= like mine or a bunch of lying weasels like all the rest. No doubt Mr=20= Toys (or more precisely, their insuror) will claim it was a design error, al= though it is likely that their box stores are (essentially) the same everywh= ere. It is also possible that TRU has in-house archt/engrs who design this s= tuff, in which case the Owner will claim it was designed right but built imp= roperly. The Contractor (or more precisely, his insuror) will no= doubt claim that it was either designed improperly (inadequate drains, inad= equate slope, inadequate framing, etc) , or that the Owner failed to maintai= n the drains in a clear condition and/or clean debris from the roof, or fail= ed to make necessary repairs on the roof in general. It's also possibl= e that the roof was overloaded by a storm heavier than that anticipated in t= he code. It's also possible that it was designed properly, that for so= me reason somebody changed the design, that the revised design was built, bu= t that it was improper. All of the above is another possibility, and if ther= e was a developer and/or a construction manager involved, then they will get= thrown into the soup with everybody else who might have Done It Vertically.= In any case, it will be the subject of much litigation. I just hope n= obody was injured.</B> Christopher <B>Ralph</B><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_57.18c02e0f.2b8e58c6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:52:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Overhang hangover MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_126.236b9c07.2b8e58f9_boundary" --part1_126.236b9c07.2b8e58f9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 12:10:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Depends on the size of your overhang, big boy. > Thanks. Sign me, Tubby The Tuba --part1_126.236b9c07.2b8e58f9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 12:10:40 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Depends on the size of your ove= rhang, big boy.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Thanks.<BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> <BR> Tubby The Tuba</FONT></HTML> --part1_126.236b9c07.2b8e58f9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:10:13 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e1.322eb67.2b8e5d05_boundary" --part1_1e1.322eb67.2b8e5d05_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:00:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I thought I had been sucked into lecturing you on the wonders of > gutters and ice dams I thought I was learning something, but now don't know > whether I was being had. and then sort of remembered that you associate > with engineers Well, I work with 'em, but they're structural engineers and > then figured I was being being had. Naaah. I was looking for education, > not entertainment. For a change. > > Just in case. Gutters are for protecting your foundation and lower > siding from roof run off, not for protecting the roof, evee or soffits. I'm > not worried about that stuff. What I AM worried about is whether having > taken the goddam 5 year-old copper gutters of my reslated house in order to > keep the ice from knocking the gutters off (as they did one year), I'm > getting ice damming anyway in the places where there are lots of icicles. > They are handy for keeping rain off your head at a door way, but > that's not a preservation issue...unless the person is the maintenance > guy and you want to keep him healthy. Or one's spousal unit. Its nice to > keep visiting dignitaries, like architects dry too! Always an important > consideration, especially in the case of highly dignified architects like > myself. > > If your gutters are hung too close to the roof edge and with too little > slope, they will collect snow and ice and hold it against your roof > edge and damage the roofing and the materials at the roof edge. This may > have been the case in the original installation, but as I say, one year we > had a lot of ice which nearly tore the gutters off in a few places, and > rather than paying through the nose to get them reinstalled, I decided to > leave them off altogether once they were removed, and they are stored under > the front porch just in case. It looks like an ice dam and it has the same > affect, but its not, its just someone deciding that level looks nicer than > sloped...probably someone > who got A's in design studio. Fornicate them also. (Fortunately they mostly > work with Dryvit now.) Serves them right. > > If you truly have ice dams, you need to find a way to cool down the > roof so you don't get a lot of melting when the outside temperature is > below freezing. The question is whether I DO have ice dams, dammit! And > most of my roof is insulated, including the areas where icicles form. Snow on the roof is a good thing. (In the > winter...you got winter in New > Jersey?) Yes, we have goddam winter in New Jersey. Why do you think I spend every winter kicking myself for ever having left the palm trees and beaches in LA? I'm a goddam Native Californian, and shouldn't have to put up with this cold and snow and sleet and icy road fecal matter, not to mention jughandle turns and potholes--- and have no one but myself to blame. Ralph --part1_1e1.322eb67.2b8e5d05_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:00:52 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I thought I had been sucked int= o lecturing you on the wonders of <BR> gutters and ice dams <B>I thought I was learning something, but now don't kn= ow whether I was being had. </B>and then sort of remembered that you associa= te <BR> with engineers <B>Well, I work with 'em, but they're structural engineers </= B>and then figured I was being being had. <B>Naaah. I was looking for=20= education, not entertainment. For a change.</B><BR> <BR> Just in case. Gutters are for protecting your foundation and lower <BR= > siding from roof run off, not for protecting the roof, evee or soffits. <B>I= 'm not worried about that stuff. What I AM worried about is whether having t= aken the goddam 5 year-old copper gutters of my reslated house in order to k= eep the ice from knocking the gutters off (as they did one year), I'm gettin= g ice damming anyway in the places where there are lots of icicles.</B><BR> They are handy for keeping rain off your head at a door way, but <BR> that's not a preservation issue...unless the person is the maintenance <BR> guy and you want to keep him healthy. <B>Or one's spousal unit.</B> Its nice= to keep visiting dignitaries, like architects dry too! <B>Always an importa= nt consideration, especially in the case of highly dignified architect= s like myself.</B><BR> <BR> If your gutters are hung too close to the roof edge and with too little <BR> slope, they will collect snow and ice and hold it against your roof <BR> edge and damage the roofing and the materials at the roof edge. <B>This may=20= have been the case in the original installation, but as I say, one year we h= ad a lot of ice which nearly tore the gutters off in a few places, and= rather than paying through the nose to get them reinstalled, I decided to l= eave them off altogether once they were removed, and they are stored under t= he front porch just in case. </B>It looks like an ice dam and it has the sam= e affect, but its not, its just someone deciding that level looks nicer than= sloped...probably someone <BR> who got A's in design studio. <B>Fornicate them also.</B> (Fortunately they=20= mostly work with Dryvit now.) <B>Serves them right.</B><BR> <BR> If you truly have ice dams, you need to find a way to cool down the <BR> roof so you don't get a lot of melting when the outside temperature is <BR> below freezing. <B>The question is whether I DO have ice dams, dammit!= And most of my roof is insulated, including the areas where icicles form. <= /BLOCKQUOTE></B>Snow on the roof is a good thing. (In the <BLOCKQUOTE=20= TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGI= N-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">winter...you got winter in New Jersey?)</BL= OCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"= SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <B>Yes, we have goddam winter in New Jersey. Why do you think I spend=20= every winter kicking myself for ever having left the palm trees and beaches=20= in LA? I'm a goddam Native Californian, and shouldn't have to put up w= ith this cold and snow and sleet and icy road fecal matter, not to mention j= ughandle turns and potholes--- and have no one but myself to blame. <BR> <BR> Ralph</B><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1e1.322eb67.2b8e5d05_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:24:31 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--742805266 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-8--742805266 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ralph, Look upstream from the icicles and see if you can figure out where the=20= melt is happening. That may be the general area where your insulation=20= needs to be enhanced. Or you may need some ventilation in that area. Put your gutters back on...in the spring. The details for installation=20= in Graphics Standards work just fine. Copper gutters don't belong=20 under your porch. Your roof isn't Cedar is it? If it is, find another=20= use for your fancy copper gutters...or accept a shortened life span. Sounds like a nice house. -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 12:10 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:00:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > I thought I had been sucked into lecturing you on the wonders of > gutters and ice dams I thought I was learning something, but now don't=20= > know whether I was being had. and then sort of remembered that you=20 > associate > with engineers Well, I work with 'em, but they're structural engineers=20= > and then figured I was being being had. Naaah.=A0 I was looking for=20 > education, not entertainment.=A0 For a change. > > Just in case.=A0 Gutters are for protecting your foundation and lower > siding from roof run off, not for protecting the roof, evee or=20 > soffits. I'm not worried about that stuff. What I AM worried about is=20= > whether having taken the goddam 5 year-old copper gutters of my=20 > reslated house in order to keep the ice from knocking the gutters off=20= > (as they did one year), I'm getting ice damming anyway in the places=20= > where there are lots of icicles. > They are handy for keeping rain off your head at a door way, but > that's not a preservation issue...unless the person is the maintenance > guy and you want to keep him healthy. Or one's spousal unit. Its nice=20= > to keep visiting dignitaries, like architects dry too! Always an=20 > important consideration,=A0 especially in the case of highly dignified=20= > architects like myself. > > If your gutters are hung too close to the roof edge and with too = little > slope, they will collect snow and ice and hold it against your roof > edge and damage the roofing and the materials at the roof edge. This=20= > may have been the case in the original installation, but as I say, one=20= > year we had a lot of ice which nearly tore the gutters off in a=A0 few=20= > places, and rather than paying through the nose to get them=20 > reinstalled, I decided to leave them off altogether once they were=20 > removed, and they are stored under the front porch just in case. It=20 > looks like an ice dam and it has the same affect, but its not, its=20 > just someone deciding that level looks nicer than sloped...probably=20 > someone > who got A's in design studio. Fornicate them also. (Fortunately they=20= > mostly work with Dryvit now.) Serves them right. > > If you truly have ice dams, you need to find a way to cool down the > roof so you don't get a lot of melting when the outside temperature is > below freezing.=A0 The question is whether I DO have ice dams, dammit!=20= > And most of my roof is insulated, including the areas where icicles=20 > form. > > Snow on the roof is a good thing.=A0 (In the > > winter...you got winter in New Jersey?) > > > Yes, we have goddam winter in New Jersey.=A0 Why do you think I spend=20= > every winter kicking myself for ever having left the palm trees and=20 > beaches in LA?=A0 I'm a goddam Native Californian, and shouldn't have = to=20 > put up with this cold and snow and sleet and icy road fecal matter,=20 > not to mention jughandle turns and potholes--- and have no one but=20 > myself to blame. > > Ralph > > > > --Apple-Mail-8--742805266 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ralph, Look upstream from the icicles and see if you can figure out where the melt is happening. That may be the general area where your insulation needs to be enhanced. Or you may need some ventilation in that area. Put your gutters back on...in the spring. The details for installation in Graphics Standards work just fine. Copper gutters don't belong under your porch. Your roof isn't Cedar is it? If it is, find another use for your fancy copper gutters...or accept a shortened life span. Sounds like a nice house. -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 12:10 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:00:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>I thought I had been sucked into lecturing you on the wonders of gutters and ice dams <bold>I thought I was learning something, but now don't know whether I was being had. </bold>and then sort of remembered that you associate with engineers <bold>Well, I work with 'em, but they're structural engineers </bold>and then figured I was being being had. <bold>Naaah.=A0 I was looking for education, not entertainment.=A0 For a change. </bold>Just in case.=A0 Gutters are for protecting your foundation and lower siding from roof run off, not for protecting the roof, evee or soffits. <bold>I'm not worried about that stuff. What I AM worried about is whether having taken the goddam 5 year-old copper gutters of my reslated house in order to keep the ice from knocking the gutters off (as they did one year), I'm getting ice damming anyway in the places where there are lots of icicles. </bold>They are handy for keeping rain off your head at a door way, but that's not a preservation issue...unless the person is the maintenance guy and you want to keep him healthy. <bold>Or one's spousal unit.</bold> Its nice to keep visiting dignitaries, like architects dry too! <bold>Always an important consideration,=A0 especially in the case of highly dignified architects like myself. </bold>If your gutters are hung too close to the roof edge and with too little slope, they will collect snow and ice and hold it against your roof edge and damage the roofing and the materials at the roof edge. <bold>This may have been the case in the original installation, but as I say, one year we had a lot of ice which nearly tore the gutters off in a=A0 few places, and rather than paying through the nose to get them reinstalled, I decided to leave them off altogether once they were removed, and they are stored under the front porch just in case. </bold>It looks like an ice dam and it has the same affect, but its not, its just someone deciding that level looks nicer than sloped...probably someone who got A's in design studio. <bold>Fornicate them also.</bold> (Fortunately they mostly work with Dryvit now.) <bold>Serves them right. </bold>If you truly have ice dams, you need to find a way to cool down the roof so you don't get a lot of melting when the outside temperature is below freezing.=A0 <bold>The question is whether I DO have ice dams, dammit! And most of my roof is insulated, including the areas where icicles form.</bold> Snow on the roof is a good thing.=A0 (In the winter...you got winter in New Jersey?) = <bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>= <smaller>Yes, we have goddam winter in New Jersey.=A0 Why do you think I spend every winter kicking myself for ever having left the palm trees and beaches in LA?=A0 I'm a goddam Native Californian, and shouldn't have to put up with this cold and snow and sleet and icy road fecal matter, not to mention jughandle turns and potholes--- and have no one but myself to blame. Ralph </smaller></color></fontfamily></bold></excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-8--742805266-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:47:45 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A2C3B7CA8DB304805E0244BE" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A2C3B7CA8DB304805E0244BE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I understand the problem the Ice dam alone isn't really causing the problem, the problem is with capiallary action which is wicking water back up under the shingles and attacking the roof sheathing, which is why more and more "snow shield" a bitch sheet product is being installed farther south than New England now. the only ways around this w/ which I'm familiar are a "cold roof" and electric heat trace cable... in re gutters- and my yard 18" down is the most beautiful bankrun I've seen- I believe them to be essentially as useless as chimney caps, I refuse to get on a ladder anymore to clean out the 2nd story gutters and fully plan to have them removed the next time I paint --------------A2C3B7CA8DB304805E0244BE Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. 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Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------A2C3B7CA8DB304805E0244BE-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:48:01 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Perhaps, dear Ralph, the insulation is underdesigned for... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_134.1bbdeb41.2b8e73f1_boundary" --part1_134.1bbdeb41.2b8e73f1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/03 1:14:41 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: > The question is whether I DO have ice dams, dammit! And most of my roof is > insulated, including the areas where icicles form. ...the amount of hot air below. Yr Obdnt Svt, Lavoisier --part1_134.1bbdeb41.2b8e73f1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/03 1:14:41 PM, RLWALTR@A= OL.COM writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B>The question is whether I DO= have ice dams, dammit! And most of my roof is insulated, including the area= s where icicles form. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-CO= LOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOC= KQUOTE></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> ...the amount of hot air below. Yr Obdnt Svt, Lavoisier</F= ONT></HTML> --part1_134.1bbdeb41.2b8e73f1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:52:59 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Perhaps, dear Ralph, the insulation is underdesigned for... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a4.1120a685.2b8e832b_boundary" --part1_1a4.1120a685.2b8e832b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 2:51:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > the amount of hot air below. Yr Obdnt Svt, Lavoisier I just knew there was some connection between you and that Lavoris guy. Ralph --part1_1a4.1120a685.2b8e832b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 2:51:10 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0">the amount of hot air below. Yr Obdnt Svt= , Lavoisier</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:=20= #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> </BLOCKQUO= TE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I just <U>knew</U> there was some connection between you and that Lavoris gu= y.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1a4.1120a685.2b8e832b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:19:38 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: J.A. Drew Diaz > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:48 PM >=20 >=20 > As I understand the problem the Ice dam alone isn't really=20 > causing the problem, the problem is with capiallary action=20 > which is wicking water back up under the shingles and=20 > attacking the roof sheathing,=20 A really impressive ice dam involves more than capillary action. They can form to be a significant number of inches tall, trapping enough water behind them that it literally submerges the entire face of shingle units, allowing water to freely flow into the structure. Imagine trying to hold water in a v-shaped trough with slate shingles as one of the faces of the trough, the ice is the other face. Can't be done. Asphalt 3-tab shingles don't do too much better.=20 And it gets really good and deep when it happens at the bottom of a valley.... _________________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir., "Help me, Mr. Wizard! I don't=20 Raleigh Historic want to be here anymore!" Districts Commission - Tooter the Turtle [log in to unmask] =20 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:29:03 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: hydro in New England MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On 2/24/2003 @ 8:16 PM Ruth wrote: Hi Bruce, Which hydro plants in New England? I had relatives who worked in some of them. Ruth > Ruth: I probably didn't work on the ones your relatives worked on or even know about. My work in that field lasted from January of '81 to about December of '82. I worked as the US technical rep for a French firm called Leroy-Somer, a manufacturer of electric motors (and other drive components). I was their only employee in the US and did everything from handling sales inquiries to putting on a wet suit to assist in installing the machines (in the water in November and December in New England I quickly learned the value of the whole suit, regardless of how hard it was to get on). My first project was known as the Branch River mill in Union, NH. Pretty small, just shy of 30 kW as I recall. 6-8 feet of head. Privately owned. An old wood shop with steam and hydro power sources. My first experience with putting pencil to paper, having someone else say "yes that will work," and having it built. The next was at the outfall of the lake featured in the movie "On Golden Pond" and was located just upstream from Ashland, NH (the movie was filmed in the next town upstream--the name escapes me). About 70 kW split between two turbines. Maybe 8-10 feet of head. Run/owned by a small-town municipal power company. New construction tacked onto an old dam. The third one was at Old Sturbridge Village in Sturbridge, MA. It had of the order of 70 kW split between two turbines. Low head, at most about six feet, but decent flow (four foot diameter pipes). I understand from a water resources friend that there have been some issues with the changes in water flow affecting the fishing in the river or perhaps more accurately those fishing in the river due to the sudden changes in flow and current (I forget the name of the river). The museum there really needed the electricity as they had all-electric heat in their "modern" building(the way the power company sets up these deals they may not have been able to use it directly in their museum after all but if they didn't use it someone else could've come in and taken the water rights away from them). Another example of new construction tacked on to an old dam. My fourth project was way up in Milo, ME (actually only about half way up the state but it seemed like a real long ways from Boston). It was three 250 kW machines running at about 10-15 feet of head. It was actually sold by the "inventor" of the technology that my firm was using (he used their induction motors as generators, some applications had planetary gear boxes made by our firm, and added some turbine blades of his design--pretty low tech), a sort of an in-your-face move to show us that it was easier to sell the stuff than we were making it out to be (I guess he was complaining that we weren't earning him the royalties he should've been getting). We just got involved with the installation. I don't know if I ever saw that site in operation as I left the firm as it was being completed. My main role on that job was as chaffeur for the French technicians brought in to do some welding and controls work (and stand around freezing in the middle of the winter in the middle of Maine). I wish I could've been working in the "golden age" of hydro in New England back around the turn of the century up until about the 40's (powering local communities and local inter-urban trams). There was bit of a gold rush in the late 70's as people got tax incentives to bring the old dams back on line but I got there a bit too late to get in with the big little players (small companies that bought up the rights to the old dams and refurbished the old equipment or installed new). At some point in the early 80's the tax incentives went away and so did the investment money. One odd part of the business was that if you owned a dam and didn't file the permits to lock it up (indicating you had some intent to develop its potential) someone could come in and take control away from you. It seemed very un-American but I guess the idea was if you aren't going to use the resource someone else should. Another unfortunate aspect was the need to perform costly dam safety studies if there was a potential for a dam blowout to flood people out downstream. This hurt people who had a marginal project and couldn't afford a full-blown engineering study (but a dam blowout could be catastrophic and have a serious impact on whole communities downstream). One of the basic rules of the game is the higher the head (the distance the water falls) the more power you can get from a given amount of water. This means that at a high head site you can still get a decent amount of power (say 30 kW) with smaller pipes, smaller equipment, and therefore less money invested. Mother Earth/home-made technology instead of the expensive industrial technology my firm used to get the same amount of power. Hydro is lots of fun farther up north where the rivers are smaller. Once you get farther south in NH and VT the main rivers get so big you're into the realm of big engineering costs, big business, and the power companies. The power involved gets a little scary too (water, electric, and interpersonal), kinda like the difference between working off an extension ladder on your house or barn versus these guys talking about hanging from swing stages on the Pan Am building. Sand Lot versus The Major Leagues. Bruce -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:33:22 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_147.ba2b355.2b8e8ca2_boundary" --part1_147.ba2b355.2b8e8ca2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And it gets really good and deep when it happens at the bottom of a valley.... My mother has this valley problem at the corner of the unheated garage in an area where you have to walk next to the massive icicle to get into the house... sometimes 6' in length and massive like Ralph's leg. We have tried all sorts of things over the years and I'm hoping the last one will be her selling the house during the summer. ][<en --part1_147.ba2b355.2b8e8ca2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">And it gets really good and deep when it happens at th= e bottom of a<BR> valley....</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> My mother has this valley problem at the corner of the unheated garage in an= area where you have to walk next to the massive icicle to get into the hous= e... sometimes 6' in length and massive like Ralph's leg. We have tried all=20= sorts of things over the years and I'm hoping the last one will be her selli= ng the house during the summer.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_147.ba2b355.2b8e8ca2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:41:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: B & O Roof Collapse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3e.2c84adbc.2b8e8e6f_boundary" --part1_3e.2c84adbc.2b8e8e6f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit During the big snow I saw a report that the roof on the B & O museum round house in Baltimore had collapsed. There was a shot with a large area of roof missing. Any word on that? They have a hell of a nice collection of early American locomotives in there and I'm curious what effect the subsequent rain has had, let alone the damage to their displays from falling cut timbers and iron connections. ][<en --part1_3e.2c84adbc.2b8e8e6f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">During the big snow I saw a report that the roof on th= e B & O museum round house in Baltimore had collapsed. There was a shot=20= with a large area of roof missing. Any word on that? They have a hell of a n= ice collection of early American locomotives in there and I'm curious what e= ffect the subsequent rain has had, let alone the damage to their displays fr= om falling cut timbers and iron connections.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_3e.2c84adbc.2b8e8e6f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:48:48 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fYjOJT6XI/YPsYRvSQLJZg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_fYjOJT6XI/YPsYRvSQLJZg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT especially since that damned icicle builds itself around the wire from the pole to the house. she's lucky to still have power!! Also of a positive note for selling in the summer is that there's a fresh coat of paint on the place. Think we should just put a sign out front this spring for her? - Pam -----Original Message----- My mother has this valley problem at the corner of the unheated garage in an area where you have to walk next to the massive icicle to get into the house... sometimes 6' in length and massive like Ralph's leg. We have tried all sorts of things over the years and I'm hoping the last one will be her selling the house during the summer. ][<en --Boundary_(ID_fYjOJT6XI/YPsYRvSQLJZg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=601154721-26022003>especially since that damned icicle builds itself around the wire from the pole to the house. she's lucky to still have power!! Also of a positive note for selling in the summer is that there's a fresh coat of paint on the place. Think we should just put a sign out front this spring for her?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=601154721-26022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=601154721-26022003>- Pam</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">My mother has this valley problem at the corner of the unheated garage in an area where you have to walk next to the massive icicle to get into the house... sometimes 6' in length and massive like Ralph's leg. We have tried all sorts of things over the years and I'm hoping the last one will be her selling the house during the summer.<BR><BR>][<en</FONT> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_fYjOJT6XI/YPsYRvSQLJZg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:55:12 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_136.1b4367fe.2b8e91c0_boundary" --part1_136.1b4367fe.2b8e91c0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our shop is spit with office on one side and uninsulated warehouse on the other. The office area had 5' of snow drifted and the uninsulated side was clear of snow. The heat on the unisulated side, kept at minimum above freezing, melted the snow. A few years ago I was given a pitch by a fellow that was representing a laser warning system so that warehouse managers would be able to tell if their roofs were deflecting from snow load. I was told they were having a problem selling the devices because property owners did NOT want to know what was going on with their roofs because then they would not be able to collect on insurance if there was a collapse. If they knew their roofs were deflecting, or even suspected that their roofs would deflect and/or collapse (why would you install a monitoring device unless you suspected a problem?) then they would be expected to have paid out of their own pockets to make the roofs right. Then there are those owners who never think to clean their drains on a flat roof with parapets. It is no hyperbole that I have been on roofs with ponds with 2' of standing water. It is a nervous situation when you see them, and worse when you have to walk around on them. In the one case the roof had settled in at the drain as the rear wall of the building was moving out at it's base. On the same building, concrete columns with waffle slab for the roof, I poked my head up into a suspended ceiling and discovered one of the columns had been cut clear through and had heavy-duty floor jacks in place. They were sitting inside the cut, as clean as could be, to hold the top portion of the column and the roof up. It was in an office area of the warehouse. It was an odd thing to see. I've always been curious what it takes for a structural engineer to come up with such a fix. ][<en --part1_136.1b4367fe.2b8e91c0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Our shop is spit with office on one side and uninsulat= ed warehouse on the other. The office area had 5' of snow drifted and the un= insulated side was clear of snow. The heat on the unisulated side, kept at m= inimum above freezing, melted the snow.<BR> <BR> A few years ago I was given a pitch by a fellow that was representing a lase= r warning system so that warehouse managers would be able to tell if their r= oofs were deflecting from snow load. I was told they were having a problem s= elling the devices because property owners did NOT want to know what was goi= ng on with their roofs because then they would not be able to collect on ins= urance if there was a collapse. If they knew their roofs were deflecting, or= even suspected that their roofs would deflect and/or collapse (why would yo= u install a monitoring device unless you suspected a problem?) then they wou= ld be expected to have paid out of their own pockets to make the roofs right= .<BR> <BR> Then there are those owners who never think to clean their drains on a flat=20= roof with parapets. It is no hyperbole that I have been on roofs with ponds=20= with 2' of standing water. It is a nervous situation when you see them, and=20= worse when you have to walk around on them. In the one case the roof had set= tled in at the drain as the rear wall of the building was moving out at it's= base. On the same building, concrete columns with waffle slab for the roof,= I poked my head up into a suspended ceiling and discovered one of the colum= ns had been cut clear through and had heavy-duty floor jacks in place. They=20= were sitting inside the cut, as clean as could be, to hold the top portion o= f the column and the roof up. It was in an office area of the warehouse. It=20= was an odd thing to see. I've always been curious what it takes for a struct= ural engineer to come up with such a fix.<BR> <BR> ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_136.1b4367fe.2b8e91c0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:55:31 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Hammarberg, Eric" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: B & O Roof Collapse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I saw some reports on line a few days ago, so my memory is not clear. Basically, a number of things were damaged but the most important items where in other buildings and not damaged. How's that for detail! Eric Hammarberg Interim Director of Preservation Associate LZA Technology 641 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10011-2014 Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct) Mobile: 917.439.3537 Fax: 917.661.8161 (Direct) email: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:41 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: B & O Roof Collapse During the big snow I saw a report that the roof on the B & O museum round house in Baltimore had collapsed. There was a shot with a large area of roof missing. Any word on that? They have a hell of a nice collection of early American locomotives in there and I'm curious what effect the subsequent rain has had, let alone the damage to their displays from falling cut timbers and iron connections. ][<en <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The information in this email and any attachments may contain confidential information that is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this message. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:01:11 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The water makes its way through the roofing material and sheathing and down through the walls. If it manages to freeze inside the wall, or otherwise pass unnoticed to finding its level, you can develop rot, mold, varmits, all kinds of challenges. Usually the failure of plaster or other interior finishes is the observed symptom. Vapor barriers complicate the whole situation, either by hiding the symptoms, or creating complications through condensation and progressively ruined insulation. Ice and water shield, helps, of that I have no doubt. But I choose avoiding ice dams by keeping the roof surface cold and not allowing snow to melt when the temperature is below freezing, and getting water off the roof fast and routed to an appropriate place far away from foundation walls and foot paths. (Good thing you guys can't see the icicle on my roof, nor have the opportunity to loose your footing on the footpath where the gutter dumps its charge.) HOWEVER, some historic buildings just naturally have ice dams. Kind of a design feature. The challenge is to understand how the building has managed to survive recurrent ice dams, and not screw that up with the introduction of modern materials and systems. Yes, I have advocated preserving bad design details, when they are necessary to understand the building, its construction, its constructors, or to antagonize someone with an opposing opinion. But Ralph's house is not a museum...yet. And Ralph should do something that will make his house easier to maintain when it is a museum and his repair is a significant feature, worthy of preservation. -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 03:19 PM, Becker, Dan wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: J.A. Drew Diaz >> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:48 PM >> >> >> As I understand the problem the Ice dam alone isn't really >> causing the problem, the problem is with capiallary action >> which is wicking water back up under the shingles and >> attacking the roof sheathing, > > A really impressive ice dam involves more than capillary action. They > can form to be a significant number of inches tall, trapping enough > water behind them that it literally submerges the entire face of > shingle > units, allowing water to freely flow into the structure. Imagine trying > to hold water in a v-shaped trough with slate shingles as one of the > faces of the trough, the ice is the other face. Can't be done. Asphalt > 3-tab shingles don't do too much better. > > And it gets really good and deep when it happens at the bottom of a > valley.... > > _________________________________________________________ > Dan Becker, Exec. Dir., "Help me, Mr. Wizard! I don't > Raleigh Historic want to be here anymore!" > Districts Commission - Tooter the Turtle > [log in to unmask] > 919/890-3678 > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:17:12 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 4:33:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > My mother has this valley problem at the corner of the unheated garage in an area where you have to walk next to the massive icicle to get into the house... sometimes 6' in length and massive like Ralph's leg. We have tried all sorts of things over the years and I'm hoping the last one will be her > selling the house during the summer. Ken- At the Arctic house with which you are familiar, I recently had an icecicle which extended from the SW corner eave to the ground, eventually approximately 20" in diameter, which encased the rear quarter of the "upstate car", so that it could not be moved. Only judicious use of an axe and several other implements of war freed the car and allowed access to the nearby cellar hatch. I managed to take a nice piece of beaded 1790's corner trim out with the axe which will require four hours of dutchman time in the Spring. The real solution to ice damming and related freeze conditions is, I feel, to move to Savannah or Charleston(ok, maybe Beaufort, but they never pronounce it correctly). V.I. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:25:45 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_71.2dda4de3.2b8e98e9_boundary" --part1_71.2dda4de3.2b8e98e9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I managed to take a nice piece of beaded 1790's corner trim out with the axe VI: I see you are working on the beaded board again. ;-) ][<en --part1_71.2dda4de3.2b8e98e9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I managed to take a nice piece of beaded 1790's corner= trim out with the axe </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> VI: I see you are working on the beaded board again. ;-) ][<en</FONT></HT= ML> --part1_71.2dda4de3.2b8e98e9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:29:13 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When you get your house to Charleston, the local termites will throw a party to celebrate the arrival. Hmm tastey Yankee building materials all softened up by ice dams! Kinda like an iced-lumber julep. -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 04:17 PM, Mike Devonshire wrote: > In a message dated 2/26/2003 4:33:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > >> My mother has this valley problem at the corner of the unheated >> garage in an area where you have to walk next to the massive icicle >> to get into the house... sometimes 6' in length and massive like >> Ralph's leg. We have tried all sorts of things over the years and I'm >> hoping the last one will be her >> selling the house during the summer. > > Ken- > > At the Arctic house with which you are familiar, I recently had an > icecicle which extended from the SW corner eave to the ground, > eventually approximately > 20" in diameter, which encased the rear quarter of the "upstate car", > so that it could not be moved. Only judicious use of an axe and > several other implements of war freed the car and allowed access to > the nearby cellar hatch. I managed to take a nice piece of beaded > 1790's corner trim out with the axe which will require four hours of > dutchman time in the Spring. > > The real solution to ice damming and related freeze conditions is, I > feel, to move to Savannah or Charleston(ok, maybe Beaufort, but they > never pronounce it correctly). > > V.I. > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:57:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d2.3c5d452.2b8ea071_boundary" --part1_1d2.3c5d452.2b8ea071_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 4:20:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > A really impressive ice dam involves more than capillary action. They > can form to be a significant number of inches tall, trapping enough > water behind them that it literally submerges the entire face of shingle > units, allowing water to freely flow into the structure. Imagine trying > to hold water in a v-shaped trough with slate shingles Yeah, well, guess who has slate. as one of the > faces of the trough, the ice is the other face. Can't be done. Asphalt 3-tab shingles don't do too much better. > > And it gets really good and deep when it happens at the bottom of a > valley.... And guess where it tends to form on my slate roof. The scary thing is, there's no sign of penetration to the interior. Ralph > > --part1_1d2.3c5d452.2b8ea071_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 4:20:19 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A really impressive ice dam inv= olves more than capillary action. They<BR> can form to be a significant number of inches tall, trapping enough<BR> water behind them that it literally submerges the entire face of shingle<BR> units, allowing water to freely flow into the structure. Imagine trying<BR> to hold water in a v-shaped trough with slate shingles <B>Yeah, well, </BLOC= KQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" S= IZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>guess who has slate. </B>= as one of the <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px soli= d; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">faces of the trou= gh, the ice is</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROU= ND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><= BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:= #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> the other= face. Can't be done. Asphalt 3-tab shingles don't do too much better. <BLOC= KQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px= ; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> And it gets really good and deep when it happens at the bottom of a<BR> valley.... <B>And guess where it tends to form on my slate roof. The</= BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fffff= f" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>scary thing=20= is, there's no sign of penetration to the interior.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZ= E=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"A= rial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1d2.3c5d452.2b8ea071_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:59:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ed.30b6500.2b8ea0d6_boundary" --part1_1ed.30b6500.2b8ea0d6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 4:34:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > sometimes 6' in length and massive like Ralph's leg. Clearly a very attractive icicle as well as large. Ralph --part1_1ed.30b6500.2b8ea0d6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 4:34:20 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">sometimes 6' in length and mass= ive like Ralph's leg. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"= BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Clearly a very attractive icicle as well as large.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1ed.30b6500.2b8ea0d6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:04:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: That's baloney about the architect getting sick under the leaky gutter.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_25.34ee4948.2b8ea1e7_boundary" --part1_25.34ee4948.2b8ea1e7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does cold weather cause a cold? Although many people are convinced that a cold results from exposure to cold weather, or from getting chilled or overheated, NIAID grantees have found that these conditions have little or no effect on the development or severity of a cold. Nor is susceptibility apparently related to factors such as exercise, diet, or enlarged tonsils or adenoids. On the other hand, research suggests that psychological stress, allergic disorders affecting the nasal passages or pharynx (throat), and menstrual cycles may have an impact on a person's susceptibility to colds --part1_25.34ee4948.2b8ea1e7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Does cold weather cause a cold? Although many people are convinced that a co= ld results from exposure to cold weather, or from getting chilled or overhea= ted, NIAID grantees have found that these conditions have little or no effec= t on the development or severity of a cold. Nor is susceptibility apparently= related to factors such as exercise, diet, or enlarged tonsils or adenoids.= On the other hand, research suggests that psychological stress, allergic di= sorders affecting the nasal passages or pharynx (throat), and menstrual cycl= es may have an impact on a person's susceptibility to colds </FONT></HTML> --part1_25.34ee4948.2b8ea1e7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:10:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: That's baloney about the architect getting sick under the leaky gutter.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_64.2d2b07a1.2b8ea381_boundary" --part1_64.2d2b07a1.2b8ea381_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 6:07:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > menstrual cycles may have an impact on a person's susceptibility to colds I rest my case. Ralph --part1_64.2d2b07a1.2b8ea381_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 6:07:33 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">menstrual cycles may have an im= pact on a person's susceptibility to colds </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I rest my case.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_64.2d2b07a1.2b8ea381_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:12:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e.2d65a896.2b8ea3f5_boundary" --part1_e.2d65a896.2b8ea3f5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 4:56:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I've always been curious what it takes for a structural engineer to come up > with such a fix. > Probably no engineer, but a frugal client. Ralph --part1_e.2d65a896.2b8ea3f5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 4:56:30 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I've always been curious what i= t takes for a structural engineer to come up with such a fix.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Probably no engineer, but a frugal client.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_e.2d65a896.2b8ea3f5_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:14:10 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4c.18c8fc8a.2b8ea442_boundary" --part1_4c.18c8fc8a.2b8ea442_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 5:02:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > But Ralph's house is not a museum...yet. And Ralph should do something > that will make his house easier to maintain when it is a museum and his > repair is a significant feature, worthy of preservation. > I quite agree. Now tell me what the hell to do. Ralph --part1_4c.18c8fc8a.2b8ea442_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 5:02:43 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">But Ralph's house is not a muse= um...yet. And Ralph should do something<BR> that will make his house easier to maintain when it is a museum and his<BR> repair is a significant feature, worthy of preservation.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I quite agree. Now tell me what the hell to do.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_4c.18c8fc8a.2b8ea442_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:15:45 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: That's baloney about the architect getting sick under the leaky gutter.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--725331365 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-10--725331365 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed And lots of fluids Ralph. -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 05:10 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/26/2003 6:07:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > menstrual cycles may have an impact on a person's susceptibility to > colds > > > > I rest my case. > > Ralph --Apple-Mail-10--725331365 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII And lots of fluids Ralph. -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 05:10 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/26/2003 6:07:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>menstrual cycles may have an impact on a person's susceptibility to colds <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>I rest my case. Ralph</smaller></color></fontfamily></excerpt> --Apple-Mail-10--725331365-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:17:11 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ad.1132c46e.2b8ea4f7_boundary" --part1_1ad.1132c46e.2b8ea4f7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 5:17:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The real solution to ice damming and related freeze conditions is, I feel, > to move to Savannah or Charleston(ok, maybe Beaufort, but they never > pronounce it correctly). > Twy, So you get the Edison Lavatory to spring for moving Ken's mom's garage to Beaufort, SC. And since my house doesn't have a garage, although it had a barn until about 1950, I could use Ken's mom's garage. But I don't want to live in SC. Guess all the problems aren't solved after all. Ralph --part1_1ad.1132c46e.2b8ea4f7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 5:17:44 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The real solution to ice dammin= g and related freeze conditions is, I feel, to move to Savannah or Charlesto= n(ok, maybe Beaufort, but they never pronounce it correctly).<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Twy,<BR> <BR> So <U>you</U> get the Edison Lavatory to spring for moving Ken's mom's garag= e to Beaufort, SC. And since my house doesn't have a garage, although=20= it had a barn until about 1950, I could use Ken's mom's garage. But I=20= don't want to live in SC.<BR> <BR> Guess all the problems aren't solved after all.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1ad.1132c46e.2b8ea4f7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:18:11 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: That's baloney about the architect getting sick under the leaky gutter.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_91.2b06b119.2b8ea533_boundary" --part1_91.2b06b119.2b8ea533_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 6:15:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > And lots of fluids Ralph. > > -jc > John, Incoming or outgoing? Ralph --part1_91.2b06b119.2b8ea533_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 6:15:34 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">And lots of fluids Ralph.<BR> <BR> -jc<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> John,<BR> <BR> Incoming or outgoing?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_91.2b06b119.2b8ea533_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:42:53 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12--723702886 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-12--723702886 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Locate where the snow melts. Inspect for: adequate insulation and adequate ventilation and that the=20= underside is cool, preferably the same temperature as the outside air. If the insulation is disturbed, redistribute. If there is limited outside ventilation, increase it...check your eave=20= vents and/or gable vents, make sure they aren't painted closed, or=20 clogged with insulation or other debris. While you are there, examine the undeside of the sheathing and=20 structure for water damage. A few stains is no big deal, but mold or=20 rot would indicate a regular leak and you need to address it. Look for indications of past leaks. Replace insulation that has been=20 leaked on. It may only loose its efficacy when it is wet, but if you=20 have enough water to get your insulation wet, you are gonna be up there=20= working for awhile anyway. It'll be easier to work if you remove the=20 insulation in the area you are working on. You might want to get yourself a protometer...(I spell it wrong to=20 entertain Bryan). Use it to examine the structure of the roof and the=20= walls. Temperature needs to be above freezing for this. Follow the=20 water. Find the problem. Define the problem. Solve the problem. Hey, you=20 could declare it "Not a Problem". That's the easiest solution. -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 05:14 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/26/2003 5:02:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > But Ralph's house is not a museum...yet.=A0 And Ralph should do = something > that will make his house easier to maintain when it is a museum and = his > repair is a significant feature, worthy of preservation. > > > > I quite agree.=A0 Now tell me what the hell to do. > > Ralph= --Apple-Mail-12--723702886 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Locate where the snow melts. Inspect for: adequate insulation and adequate ventilation and that the underside is cool, preferably the same temperature as the outside air. =20 If the insulation is disturbed, redistribute. If there is limited outside ventilation, increase it...check your eave vents and/or gable vents, make sure they aren't painted closed, or clogged with insulation or other debris. While you are there, examine the undeside of the sheathing and structure for water damage. A few stains is no big deal, but mold or rot would indicate a regular leak and you need to address it. Look for indications of past leaks. Replace insulation that has been leaked on. It may only loose its efficacy when it is wet, but if you have enough water to get your insulation wet, you are gonna be up there working for awhile anyway. It'll be easier to work if you remove the insulation in the area you are working on. You might want to get yourself a protometer...(I spell it wrong to entertain Bryan). Use it to examine the structure of the roof and the walls. Temperature needs to be above freezing for this. Follow the water. Find the problem. Define the problem. Solve the problem. Hey, you could declare it "Not a Problem". That's the easiest solution. -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 05:14 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/26/2003 5:02:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>But Ralph's house is not a museum...yet.=A0 And Ralph should do something that will make his house easier to maintain when it is a museum and his repair is a significant feature, worthy of preservation. I quite agree.=A0 Now tell me what the hell to do. Ralph</excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-12--723702886-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:44:25 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: That's baloney about the architect getting sick under the leaky gutter.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14--723611619 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-14--723611619 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Yuck! -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 05:18 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/26/2003 6:15:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > And lots of fluids Ralph. > > -jc > > > John, > > Incoming or outgoing? > > Ralph --Apple-Mail-14--723611619 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Yuck! -jc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 05:18 PM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/26/2003 6:15:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>And lots of fluids Ralph. -jc John, Incoming or outgoing? Ralph</excerpt> --Apple-Mail-14--723611619-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:01:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: That's baloney about the architect getting sick under the leaky gutter.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6a.2e1c6f3c.2b8eaf3c_boundary" --part1_6a.2e1c6f3c.2b8eaf3c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does cold weather cause a cold? What causes bronchitis? I've been getting it every year. ][<en --part1_6a.2e1c6f3c.2b8eaf3c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Does cold weather cause a cold? </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><F= ONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> What causes bronchitis? I've been getting it every year. ][<en</FONT></HT= ML> --part1_6a.2e1c6f3c.2b8eaf3c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:03:20 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_133.1bc4c42c.2b8eafc8_boundary" --part1_133.1bc4c42c.2b8eafc8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for a structural engineer to come up with such a fix. Probably no engineer, but a frugal client. I meant to say "amateur" engineer. --part1_133.1bc4c42c.2b8eafc8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">for a structural engineer to come up with such a fix.<= BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Probably no engineer, but a frugal client.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><= FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0">I meant to say "amateur" eng= ineer.</FONT></HTML> --part1_133.1bc4c42c.2b8eafc8_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:55:10 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: That's baloney about the architect getting sick under the leaky gutter.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2DDD0.F8B012E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2DDD0.F8B012E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Ken asks: What causes bronchitis? << Living in the Bronx? ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2DDD0.F8B012E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2DDD0.F7A92A30"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"place"/> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; background:white'>>>Ken asks:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; background:white'><br> What causes bronchitis? </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;background:white'>= <<</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;background: white'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  = ; </span>Living in the </span></font><st1:place><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bronx</span></fon= t></st1:place><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'>?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2DDD0.F8B012E0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:56:41 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2DDFB.172078E1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DDFB.172078E1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's what my brother and I finally had to do for our childhood homeplace when it was time for Dad to simplify his life...role-reversal...we quit asking him, and told him what to do. Everything got much easier after that. =20 D. -----Original Message----- From: Pam Stevenson Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:49 PM especially since that damned icicle builds itself around the wire from the pole to the house. she's lucky to still have power!! Also of a positive note for selling in the summer is that there's a fresh coat of paint on the place. Think we should just put a sign out front this spring for her? =20 - Pam -----Original Message----- My mother has this valley problem at the corner of the unheated garage in an area where you have to walk next to the massive icicle to get into the house... sometimes 6' in length and massive like Ralph's leg. We have tried all sorts of things over the years and I'm hoping the last one will be her selling the house during the summer. ][<en=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DDFB.172078E1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2713.1100" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D343505400-27022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>That's=20 what my brother and I finally had to do for our childhood homeplace when = it was=20 time for Dad to simplify his life...role-reversal...we quit asking him, = and told=20 him what to do. Everything got much easier after = that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D343505400-27022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D343505400-27022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>D.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pam=20 Stevenson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:49=20 PM<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D601154721-26022003>especially since that damned icicle builds = itself=20 around the wire from the pole to the house. she's lucky to still = have=20 power!! Also of a positive note for selling in the summer is = that=20 there's a fresh coat of paint on the place. Think we should just = put a=20 sign out front this spring for her?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D601154721-26022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D601154721-26022003>- Pam</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR></FONT><FONT = face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT=20 lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">My mother has = this valley=20 problem at the corner of the unheated garage in an area where you = have to=20 walk next to the massive icicle to get into the house... sometimes = 6' in=20 length and massive like Ralph's leg. We have tried all sorts of = things over=20 the years and I'm hoping the last one will be her selling the house = during=20 the summer.<BR><BR>][<en</FONT>=20 </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DDFB.172078E1-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:01:21 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralph Walter > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 5:58 PM >=20 >=20 > scary thing is, there's no sign of penetration to the interior. Not yet... What John says: this is not one of those indecisive things to decide to do nothing.... __________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Oh joy! Rapture! Now Raleigh Historic I have a brain!" Districts Commission - Scarecrow [log in to unmask] =20 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:24:11 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Cold Remedy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Met History > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:04 PM > Subject: That's baloney about the architect getting sick=20 > under the leaky gutter.... >=20 >=20 >=20 > Does cold weather cause a cold?=20 Regardless of cause, this is Dr. Cold's remedy (there really is such a guy, who has studied the mechanisms of cold virii for decades as his research specialty; still no cure, but he promotes this method to reduce the length and severity of symptoms): At the first sign/suspicion of an impending cold, take the following two over-the-counter medications in combination: Chlorpheniramine time-release antihistamine Ibuprofen Something about the way the two interact (he hasn't quite figured out why it works, just that it does) disrupts the reproduction/spreading mechanism of the cold virii (there are numerous variations) and thus dampens your body's immunological response to their invasion. It is very important to get the specific antihistamine Chlorpheniramine. Strange but true. I've done it ever since I heard about it, and it works. My colds are very mild, and last two days at most if I catch it early. I will say though that I'm generally not prone to colds; your mileage may vary. http://www.pulmonaryreviews.com/oct02/pr_oct02_cold.html http://www.athleticnutrition.com/Article159.shtml http://hsc.virginia.edu/newstips/Archives00/cold-rx.html The third item mentioned in his studies, intranasal interferon, does not yet have FDA approval. In one report I read which I can't find now, Dr. Cold recommends just going with the two I mention; the partial therapy was shown still to be a significant improvement over the placebo control group. Just thought you would like to know in case you catch a cold from ice dam water dripping on your head, or a water-saturated snow-covered roof collapse puts a spot of cold slush down your collar (obligatory building-related content). ________________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Dagnabit Muskie, who dropped Raleigh Historic the cotton pickin' roof on Districts Commission my toe bone?" =20 [log in to unmask] -with apologies to Deputy Dawg 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:34:00 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Old workshops In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" No, no, no, I know all about making sawdust, we have a sawmill here on the farm. This is a MACHINE shop, they do funky things with hunks of METAL. It looks like great fun but they measure things in thousandths of an inch and I don't get any finer than an eighth so would never do. Ruth At 10:20 PM -0500 2/25/03, Ralph Walter wrote: In a message dated 2/25/2003 10:11:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I have no idea what was going on in there just loved the sound. Ruth, They were probably making sawdust. A most enjoyable process. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:29:25 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cold Remedy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3c.2c87c731.2b8f5ea5_boundary" --part1_3c.2c87c731.2b8f5ea5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx, Dan: First and second aid, and maintaining our health, is always histo presto relevant. Next time I think I am working up a cold I'll run to the BP archive. ][<en PS. As Sharpshooter got his snow storm I'm curious when we will get our report on his shouting down the urban canyon of snow? Any word from COD on this? --part1_3c.2c87c731.2b8f5ea5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Thanx, Dan: First and second aid, and maintaining our=20= health, is always histo presto relevant. Next time I think I am working up a= cold I'll run to the BP archive. ][<en<BR> <BR> PS. As Sharpshooter got his snow storm I'm curious when we will get our repo= rt on his shouting down the urban canyon of snow? Any word from COD on this?= </FONT></HTML> --part1_3c.2c87c731.2b8f5ea5_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:43:12 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Kenneth Uracius <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: hydro in New England In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bruce and Ruth I worked on the Site at old Sturbridge village in the early 80 and set up two hydro sites in Barre MA and one in Webster MA Filled FERP's on about 50 other sites then the bottom fell out. The sites were a lot of fun, but big money took control and most of the small operators were forced out (Me Included) Ken -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Bruce Marcham Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:29 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: hydro in New England On 2/24/2003 @ 8:16 PM Ruth wrote: Hi Bruce, Which hydro plants in New England? I had relatives who worked in some of them. Ruth > Ruth: I probably didn't work on the ones your relatives worked on or even know about. My work in that field lasted from January of '81 to about December of '82. I worked as the US technical rep for a French firm called Leroy-Somer, a manufacturer of electric motors (and other drive components). I was their only employee in the US and did everything from handling sales inquiries to putting on a wet suit to assist in installing the machines (in the water in November and December in New England I quickly learned the value of the whole suit, regardless of how hard it was to get on). My first project was known as the Branch River mill in Union, NH. Pretty small, just shy of 30 kW as I recall. 6-8 feet of head. Privately owned. An old wood shop with steam and hydro power sources. My first experience with putting pencil to paper, having someone else say "yes that will work," and having it built. The next was at the outfall of the lake featured in the movie "On Golden Pond" and was located just upstream from Ashland, NH (the movie was filmed in the next town upstream--the name escapes me). About 70 kW split between two turbines. Maybe 8-10 feet of head. Run/owned by a small-town municipal power company. New construction tacked onto an old dam. The third one was at Old Sturbridge Village in Sturbridge, MA. It had of the order of 70 kW split between two turbines. Low head, at most about six feet, but decent flow (four foot diameter pipes). I understand from a water resources friend that there have been some issues with the changes in water flow affecting the fishing in the river or perhaps more accurately those fishing in the river due to the sudden changes in flow and current (I forget the name of the river). The museum there really needed the electricity as they had all-electric heat in their "modern" building(the way the power company sets up these deals they may not have been able to use it directly in their museum after all but if they didn't use it someone else could've come in and taken the water rights away from them). Another example of new construction tacked on to an old dam. My fourth project was way up in Milo, ME (actually only about half way up the state but it seemed like a real long ways from Boston). It was three 250 kW machines running at about 10-15 feet of head. It was actually sold by the "inventor" of the technology that my firm was using (he used their induction motors as generators, some applications had planetary gear boxes made by our firm, and added some turbine blades of his design--pretty low tech), a sort of an in-your-face move to show us that it was easier to sell the stuff than we were making it out to be (I guess he was complaining that we weren't earning him the royalties he should've been getting). We just got involved with the installation. I don't know if I ever saw that site in operation as I left the firm as it was being completed. My main role on that job was as chaffeur for the French technicians brought in to do some welding and controls work (and stand around freezing in the middle of the winter in the middle of Maine). I wish I could've been working in the "golden age" of hydro in New England back around the turn of the century up until about the 40's (powering local communities and local inter-urban trams). There was bit of a gold rush in the late 70's as people got tax incentives to bring the old dams back on line but I got there a bit too late to get in with the big little players (small companies that bought up the rights to the old dams and refurbished the old equipment or installed new). At some point in the early 80's the tax incentives went away and so did the investment money. One odd part of the business was that if you owned a dam and didn't file the permits to lock it up (indicating you had some intent to develop its potential) someone could come in and take control away from you. It seemed very un-American but I guess the idea was if you aren't going to use the resource someone else should. Another unfortunate aspect was the need to perform costly dam safety studies if there was a potential for a dam blowout to flood people out downstream. This hurt people who had a marginal project and couldn't afford a full-blown engineering study (but a dam blowout could be catastrophic and have a serious impact on whole communities downstream). One of the basic rules of the game is the higher the head (the distance the water falls) the more power you can get from a given amount of water. This means that at a high head site you can still get a decent amount of power (say 30 kW) with smaller pipes, smaller equipment, and therefore less money invested. Mother Earth/home-made technology instead of the expensive industrial technology my firm used to get the same amount of power. Hydro is lots of fun farther up north where the rivers are smaller. Once you get farther south in NH and VT the main rivers get so big you're into the realm of big engineering costs, big business, and the power companies. The power involved gets a little scary too (water, electric, and interpersonal), kinda like the difference between working off an extension ladder on your house or barn versus these guys talking about hanging from swing stages on the Pan Am building. Sand Lot versus The Major Leagues. Bruce -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:45:55 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_133.1bcda804.2b8f6283_boundary" --part1_133.1bcda804.2b8f6283_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's what my brother and I finally had to do for our childhood homeplace when it was time for Dad to simplify his life...role-reversal...we quit asking him, and told him what to do. Everything got much easier after that. I don't think we are quite at that point yet... we usually wait until the resident falls down and gets stuck behind the toilet for a day before we take action. Scots are an independent lot, you know. You don't want to be bossing them around too early. And I'm not too sure about the French/Seneca, either, my semi-paternal grandfather was working on his car and the brake let loose and he was pinned under it for an entire day out in the yard front of their house, with my grandmother inside the house listening to Texaco opera or something on the radio like that. He died from dehydration & exposure, not from the squawking music. ][<en --part1_133.1bcda804.2b8f6283_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">That's what my brother and I finall= y had to do for our childhood homeplace when it was time for Dad to simplify= his life...role-reversal...we quit asking him, and told him what to do. Eve= rything got much easier after that.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I don't think we are quite at that point yet... we usually wait until the re= sident falls down and gets stuck behind the toilet for a day before we take=20= action. Scots are an independent lot, you know. You don't want to be bossing= them around too early. And I'm not too sure about the French/Seneca, either= , my semi-paternal grandfather was working on his car and the brake let loos= e and he was pinned under it for an entire day out in the yard front of thei= r house, with my grandmother inside the house listening to Texaco opera or s= omething on the radio like that. He died from dehydration & exposure, no= t from the squawking music.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_133.1bcda804.2b8f6283_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:19:12 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--674724603 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2--674724603 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed It took my dad two days of sleeping and being unable to walk before he thought that he might need some assistance. He appears to think "911" is for people who are really in trouble, not him. Ever since Mom caught up with the mother ship, he's had the house to himself, its quiet. He likes that. Mom's cats seem less neurotic now too. Until this illness I would call once a week...or he would. My sister lives nearby and is attentive to the point where it makes me and dad uncomfortable. She was all concerned because his doctor made a comment about his prostate and I informed her that he would prefer that she didn't even know he had one. But the time is coming to get him out of that house. I've always hated that house. I told my mom that if I inherited half the house I would take a chain saw to my half and give it what it deserves...assuming the termites leave me anything worth destroying. But the time is coming for him to move out. Meanwhile he has a girlfriend...its all going to be very complicated...isn't it? Makes me look down the road a piece and see my daughters walking in the shoes of their mother and aunts, same shoes worn by their grandmothers...sort of. I hope my son survives his misadventures in my shoes. Dad's house has an inside corner where rain water collects and finds its way into the basement. The recent weather was so great that it over flowed the sump. He's been battling water in the basement for a couple of years now. Its like a hobby. He doesn't want to bring in a contractor and deal with it outside...he'd rather play with masonry cement in the basement. -jc On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 06:45 AM, Ken Follett wrote: > That's what my brother and I finally had to do for our childhood > homeplace when it was time for Dad to simplify his > life...role-reversal...we quit asking him, and told him what to do. > Everything got much easier after that. > > I don't think we are quite at that point yet... we usually wait until > the resident falls down and gets stuck behind the toilet for a day > before we take action. Scots are an independent lot, you know. You > don't want to be bossing them around too early. And I'm not too sure > about the French/Seneca, either, my semi-paternal grandfather was > working on his car and the brake let loose and he was pinned under it > for an entire day out in the yard front of their house, with my > grandmother inside the house listening to Texaco opera or something on > the radio like that. He died from dehydration & exposure, not from the > squawking music. > > ][<en > --Apple-Mail-2--674724603 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII It took my dad two days of sleeping and being unable to walk before he thought that he might need some assistance. He appears to think "911" is for people who are really in trouble, not him. Ever since Mom caught up with the mother ship, he's had the house to himself, its quiet. He likes that. Mom's cats seem less neurotic now too. Until this illness I would call once a week...or he would. My sister lives nearby and is attentive to the point where it makes me and dad uncomfortable. She was all concerned because his doctor made a comment about his prostate and I informed her that he would prefer that she didn't even know he had one. But the time is coming to get him out of that house. I've always hated that house. I told my mom that if I inherited half the house I would take a chain saw to my half and give it what it deserves...assuming the termites leave me anything worth destroying. But the time is coming for him to move out. Meanwhile he has a girlfriend...its all going to be very complicated...isn't it? Makes me look down the road a piece and see my daughters walking in the shoes of their mother and aunts, same shoes worn by their grandmothers...sort of. I hope my son survives his misadventures in my shoes. Dad's house has an inside corner where rain water collects and finds its way into the basement. The recent weather was so great that it over flowed the sump. He's been battling water in the basement for a couple of years now. Its like a hobby. He doesn't want to bring in a contractor and deal with it outside...he'd rather play with masonry cement in the basement. -jc On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 06:45 AM, Ken Follett wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</param><smaller>That's what my brother and I finally had to do for our childhood homeplace when it was time for Dad to simplify his life...role-reversal...we quit asking him, and told him what to do. Everything got much easier after that. </smaller></color><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><smaller>I don't think we are quite at that point yet... we usually wait until the resident falls down and gets stuck behind the toilet for a day before we take action. Scots are an independent lot, you know. You don't want to be bossing them around too early. And I'm not too sure about the French/Seneca, either, my semi-paternal grandfather was working on his car and the brake let loose and he was pinned under it for an entire day out in the yard front of their house, with my grandmother inside the house listening to Texaco opera or something on the radio like that. He died from dehydration & exposure, not from the squawking music. ][<<en</smaller></color></fontfamily> </excerpt> --Apple-Mail-2--674724603-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:23:49 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cold Remedy In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From the 2 cents (or for what it's worth) gallery, we have had GREAT success with an over the counter homeopathic called Zicam. It's a zinc ointment for your nose. It's used at the first sign, or after you suspect a good likelihood of exposure (like having been any were near ][<en) of a cold. It's scary how well it works. Won't cure a whopper though. Rudy Ps; if anyone wants to see a non-electric shop, come visit our Amish community. Just don't eat the food unless you have cholesterol numbers below 50. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:26:29 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the tub MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.netlaughter.com/splishsplash/splishsplash.cfm -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:01:26 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Feb 2003 to 27 Feb 2003 (#2003-56) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: colds...my husband and I both got one at the same time, same symptoms, same severity, not gone yet so still shivering. This is rare, so we believe we were simultaneously exposed to something, and that it can't be any of those things suggested in the research. =20 Is there a commercial name for that Chlorpheniramine time-release antihistamine and Ibuprofen combination? Or even for just the Chlorpheniramine? I've never heard of it, and right now I'm ready to try anything. Our new old house is not drafty, and it feels good to just stay home and read email. (Original Message: Does cold weather cause a cold? Although many people are convinced that a cold results from exposure to cold weather, or from getting chilled or overheated, NIAID grantees have found that these conditions have little or no effect on the development or severity of a cold. Nor is susceptibility apparently related to factors such as exercise, diet, or enlarged tonsils or adenoids. On the other hand, research suggests that psychological stress, allergic disorders affecting the nasal passages or pharynx (throat), and menstrual cycles may have an impact on a person's susceptibility to colds.) QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:34:28 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: You don't know because... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Ilene R. Tyler > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:01 AM > Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Feb 2003 to 27=20 > Feb 2003 (#2003-56) >=20 >=20 > Is there a commercial name for that Chlorpheniramine=20 > time-release antihistamine and Ibuprofen combination? Or even=20 > for just the Chlorpheniramine? I've never heard of it, and=20 > right now I'm ready to try anything. ...Irene doesn't change the subject line from the digest header, but it's about the cold remedy thread. You buy two different pills. There isn't a product that has this combination. Chlorpheniramine is a type of antihistamine, and that's the name of it. Some may have a different commercial name for it, like "Clor-a-Cold" (I made that up; maybe I shouldn't go into marketing), so just read the boxes to find it. I think Eckerd has a house brand, and they just call it Chlorpheniramine. Works for me, I was able to find it right away. As for you, it's too late for this cold. You really have to do it right at the outset of symptoms. But it's nice to know you are here in your warm house (two places at one time--ain't technology wonderful) reading with us today. Good luck next cold!=20 Dan -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:48:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the tub MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_24.389dc317.2b8f7f54_boundary" --part1_24.389dc317.2b8f7f54_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan, I assume this is autobiography. ][<en --part1_24.389dc317.2b8f7f54_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Bryan, I assume this is autobiography. ][<en</FONT>= </HTML> --part1_24.389dc317.2b8f7f54_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:11:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cold Remedy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9f.347aff0d.2b8f84b4_boundary" --part1_9f.347aff0d.2b8f84b4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/03 7:30:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > PS. As Sharpshooter got his snow storm I'm curious when we will get our > Yes, got some of that, but not as strong (from this 18") as it was when we had 30-36" a few years ago, and Madison Avenue sounded like the bottom of Bryce Canyon. Blizzard winds did, however, make interesting studies of blowing snow: at the locally famous "wind tunnel" building (1970's tall tower on 89th & Madison, which put in tank-trap like mounds to reduce the wind effects), 2-foot drifts surrouded one corner, except for a 24" sort of lane going around, which was swept bare. A tongue of snow would be blown out onto the pavement, then shrink back as the flakes were blown away. Reminded me of Koyaanasquatsi (Michael, spelling on that?) Christopher --part1_9f.347aff0d.2b8f84b4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/03 7:30:46 AM Eastern St= andard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">PS. As Sharpshooter got his= snow storm I'm curious when we will get our report on his shouting down the= urban canyon of snow?</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Yes, got some of that, but not as strong (from this 18") as it was when=20= we had 30-36" a few years ago, and Madison Avenue sounded like the bottom of= Bryce Canyon. <BR> <BR>Blizzard winds did, however, make interesting studies of blowing snow: &= nbsp;at the locally famous "wind tunnel" building (1970's tall tower on 89th= & Madison, which put in tank-trap like mounds to reduce the wind effect= s), 2-foot drifts surrouded one corner, except for a 24" sort of lane going=20= around, which was swept bare. A tongue of snow would be blown out onto= the pavement, then shrink back as the flakes were blown away. Reminde= d me of Koyaanasquatsi (Michael, spelling on that?) Christ= opher </FONT></HTML> --part1_9f.347aff0d.2b8f84b4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:13:59 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cold Remedy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_77.afa71da.2b8f8537_boundary" --part1_77.afa71da.2b8f8537_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/03 8:24:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > From the 2 cents (or for what it's worth) gallery, we have had GREAT > success with an over the counter homeopathic called Zicam. It's a zinc > Another nutty person told me about that, and I figured she was a space alien. If Rudy says so, guess I'll try it. Yrs. Galvanized --part1_77.afa71da.2b8f8537_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/03 8:24:40 AM Eastern St= andard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">From the 2 cents (or for wh= at it's worth) gallery, we have had GREAT <BR>success with an over the counter homeopathic called Zicam. It's a zinc <BR>ointment for your nose</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Another nutty person told me about that, and I figured she was a space a= lien. If Rudy says so, guess I'll try it. Yrs. Galva= nized</FONT></HTML> --part1_77.afa71da.2b8f8537_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:14:10 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c7.5cbbe44.2b8f8542_boundary" --part1_1c7.5cbbe44.2b8f8542_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit he'd rather play with masonry cement in the basement. My maternal grandfather kept walking around in their little apartment saying the boss had gone crazy and fiddling with all the finishing nails on the trim saying that they had been put in improperly. He walked around all day with a nail set and a small hammer tapping on different nails. Drove my grandmother nuts. In his career he specialized in building wood spiral staircases with plans figures & numbers kept in his head. ][<en --part1_1c7.5cbbe44.2b8f8542_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">he'd rather play with masonry cement in the basement.<= BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> My maternal grandfather kept walking around in their little apartment saying= the boss had gone crazy and fiddling with all the finishing nails on the tr= im saying that they had been put in improperly. He walked around all day wit= h a nail set and a small hammer tapping on different nails. Drove my grandmo= ther nuts. In his career he specialized in building wood spiral staircases w= ith plans figures & numbers kept in his head. ][<en<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1c7.5cbbe44.2b8f8542_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:27:22 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cold Remedy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ae.3a3a275c.2b8f885a_boundary" --part1_ae.3a3a275c.2b8f885a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Koyaanasquatsi World of balance? --part1_ae.3a3a275c.2b8f885a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Koyaanasquatsi</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR= =3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI= F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> World of balance?</FONT></HTML> --part1_ae.3a3a275c.2b8f885a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:30:16 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 5:25:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I see you are working on the beaded board again K- LOL!~ Can't get away from them. VI -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:16:36 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: That's baloney about the architect getting sick under theleaky gutter.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8956164F2AB5B7178BD7F041" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8956164F2AB5B7178BD7F041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and then there's my favorite 2nd grade joke What's faster hot or cold? Well anyone can catch a cold... --------------8956164F2AB5B7178BD7F041 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------8956164F2AB5B7178BD7F041-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:26:21 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Favorite second grade jokes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ******** McAfee GroupShield Exchange ********** ******** Alert generated at: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:26:21 AM Eastern Standard Time ********************************************************************** The item 1341571_1046363181_Becker, Dan-ELMO.txt has been replaced because it was blocked. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:33:58 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Favorite second grade jokes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ******** McAfee GroupShield Exchange ********** ******** Alert generated at: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:33:58 AM Eastern Standard Time ********************************************************************** The item 1341805_1046363638_Becker, Dan-ELMO.txt has been replaced because it was blocked. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:39:39 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cold Remedy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_97.34da761d.2b8f994b_boundary" --part1_97.34da761d.2b8f994b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/03 10:29:09 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > World of balance? I think it means "Life out of balance" - or so Philip Glass says. Saw it performed at BAM with giant screen - astonishing. C --part1_97.34da761d.2b8f994b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/03 10:29:09 AM, ARWNY@AO= L.COM writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">World of balance?</FONT><FO= NT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0= "> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I think it means "Life out of balance" - or so Philip Glass says. = Saw it performed at BAM with giant screen - astonishing. C </FONT></HT= ML> --part1_97.34da761d.2b8f994b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:11:09 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cold Remedy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My SO has started using Zicam at the suggestion of her chiropractor, I think. She seems to think it works. I might even try it if I can lose some nose hairs (maybe they will enhance the effect by providing more surface area?). Sounds disgusting when she dips the applicator back in the vial (I imagine kids love the sound). P.S. The coolest thing I remember from Amish country (Lancaster County, PA) was a real small hydro plant that had a single rope or cable that ran across the farm yard. It was supported on a number of loops and oscillated back and forth as if it was transfering a rotary motion from one point to another. For all I know it was just running one of those little wooden yard toys but I'm thinking it went to their remote/community phone booth or some such thing (some don't allow such things in the house but seem to allow them out a ways, perhaps where they can be shared), maybe keeping a battery charged up. I didn't get to dwell on it because I was (I hate to admit it) on a bus tour... > From the 2 cents (or for what it's worth) gallery, we have had GREAT success with an over the counter homeopathic called Zicam. It's a zinc ointment for your nose. It's used at the first sign, or after you suspect a good likelihood of exposure (like having been any were near ][<en) of a cold. It's scary how well it works. Won't cure a whopper though. Rudy Ps; if anyone wants to see a non-electric shop, come visit our Amish community. Just don't eat the food unless you have cholesterol numbers below 50. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:16:02 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Favorite second grade jokes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ******** McAfee GroupShield Exchange ********** ******** Alert generated at: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:16:02 PM Eastern Standard Time ********************************************************************** The item 1342975_1046366162_Becker, Dan-ELMO.txt has been replaced because it was blocked. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:19:58 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Arrggggh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry to keep bombarding you guys with messages from our corporate censor robot, I'm trying to figure out what word in a second grade joke would be deemed offensive enough to have it prevent me from sending it to you for fear that you would think less of me as a human being. I'm going to keep trying, yes I am...to send you the joke, not to have you think less of me. _________________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir., "Help me, Mr. Wizard! I don't=20 Raleigh Historic want to be here anymore!" Districts Commission - Tooter the Turtle [log in to unmask] =20 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:30:37 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Dan Becker <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Apparently juvenile jokes are offensive.... ...but I'm going to subject you to MY favorite second grade joke anyway. Hello, friends. I'm coming to you today from the B-P web interface, since my corporate email system will not allow me to communicate with you. Here's the last message that I tried to send, that also got blocked...but this time I saved a text version of it before I sent it, so I could share it with you through this most nefarious of means-- ---------- OK, I think I've figured this one out. What was once an innocent second- grade world [intenional use of world, not a typo of word] has now become an "offensive term." Let's see what happens...I am going to reconstruct my original post (the original text was deleted by the robot censor) using a hyphen to break up what I believe infuriated a machine that cannot parse the many many different meanings a single word can have in the English language: > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Diaz > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:17 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: That's baloney about the architect getting sick > under theleaky gutter.... > > > and then there's my favorite 2nd grade joke OK, respond with "crack-er" after each question: "What did you have for breakfast?" ==> *** "What did you have for lunch?" ==> *** "What did you have for dinner?" ==> *** "What did you do to your teacher? ==> *** Bwaaaahahahahaha. That one earned me a crack up side the head from the nun standing behind me on the playground when I told it. __________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Oh joy! Rapture! Now Raleigh Historic I have a brain!" Districts Commission - Scarecrow [log in to unmask] 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:38:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4f.2bccf8e9.2b8fa6f8_boundary" --part1_4f.2bccf8e9.2b8fa6f8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/2003 7:46:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > He died from dehydration &exposure, not from the squawking music. > A lot of people die in operas, but Opera never killed anybody. Maybe bored the bejesus out of them, but didn't kill 'em. Ralph --part1_4f.2bccf8e9.2b8fa6f8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/2003 7:46:34 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">He died from dehydration &e= xposure, not from the squawking music.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff= fff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> A lot of people die in operas, but Opera never killed anybody. Maybe b= ored the bejesus out of them, but didn't kill 'em.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_4f.2bccf8e9.2b8fa6f8_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:40:55 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >I'm beginning to think you're kinda cute, so maybe it IS working. Ralph Thanks, big guy. As a courtesy, no change orders for you. Nick _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:40:22 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_180.1700bb6c.2b8fa786_boundary" --part1_180.1700bb6c.2b8fa786_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/2003 8:18:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > He doesn't want to bring in a > contractor and deal with it outside...he'd rather play with masonry > cement in the basement. > If your choice was prostate cancer, bringing in a contractor, or playing with masonry cement in the basement, which would YOU choose? Ralph --part1_180.1700bb6c.2b8fa786_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/2003 8:18:40 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">He doesn't want to bring in a<B= R> contractor and deal with it outside...he'd rather play with masonry<BR> cement in the basement.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> If your choice was prostate cancer, bringing in a contractor, or playing wit= h masonry cement in the basement, which would YOU choose?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_180.1700bb6c.2b8fa786_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:43:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cold Remedy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_18.2d530f73.2b8fa824_boundary" --part1_18.2d530f73.2b8fa824_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/2003 10:14:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Reminded me of Koyaanasquatsi Now THAT would kill you, lying under the car or not. Ralph --part1_18.2d530f73.2b8fa824_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/2003 10:14:16 AM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> Reminded me of Koyaanasquatsi </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><F= ONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Now THAT would kill you, lying under the car or not.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_18.2d530f73.2b8fa824_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:46:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Favorite second grade jokes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12b.2414580b.2b8fa8df_boundary" --part1_12b.2414580b.2b8fa8df_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If two's company, and three's a crowd, what's four and five? Nine. Ralph --part1_12b.2414580b.2b8fa8df_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">If two's company, and three's a crowd, what's fo= ur and five?<BR> <BR> Nine.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_12b.2414580b.2b8fa8df_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:52:44 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Apparently juvenile jokes are offensive.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2b.39f0ba9c.2b8faa6c_boundary" --part1_2b.39f0ba9c.2b8faa6c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/2003 12:30:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > "What did you do to your teacher? > > ==> *** > > No matter what I ask, you have to answer 'Examiner." What newspaper do you read in the morning? Examiner. What newspaper do you read in the afternoon? Examiner. What newspaper do you read in the evening? Examiner. What would you do if you saw Marilyn Monroe sitting on the toilet? Examiner. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk Ralph --part1_2b.39f0ba9c.2b8faa6c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/2003 12:30:55 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">"What did you do to your teache= r?<BR> <BR> =3D=3D> ***<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> No matter what I ask, you have to answer 'Examiner."<BR> <BR> What newspaper do you read in the morning?<BR> Examiner.<BR> <BR> What newspaper do you read in the afternoon?<BR> Examiner.<BR> <BR> What newspaper do you read in the evening?<BR> Examiner.<BR> <BR> What would you do if you saw Marilyn Monroe sitting on the toilet?<BR> Examiner.<BR> <BR> Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_2b.39f0ba9c.2b8faa6c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:56:21 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nick & the Tankless Water Heater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_116.1f666c84.2b8fab45_boundary" --part1_116.1f666c84.2b8fab45_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/2003 12:39:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Thanks, big guy. As a courtesy, no change orders for you. > So when are you coming back from Schvitzerland? We could use a few more contractors like you. On the other hand, economically speaking, maybe you better stay where you are. Saw Cooper Institute again, or whatever the hell it's called, the other day. I still think it's ugly. Ralph --part1_116.1f666c84.2b8fab45_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/2003 12:39:12 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Thanks, big guy. As a courtesy,= no change orders for you.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> So when are you coming back from Schvitzerland? We could use a few mor= e contractors like you. On the other hand, economically speaking, mayb= e you better stay where you are. <BR> <BR> Saw Cooper Institute again, or whatever the hell it's called, the othe= r day. I still think it's ugly.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_116.1f666c84.2b8fab45_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:15:59 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Arrggggh In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dan - Wasn't there an Elmo virus at one point? Maybe that's what McAfee is barfing on. Can you imagine little Elmo chunks spewed all over the screen? Not a pretty sight, to be sure. - Pam -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Becker, Dan Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:20 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Arrggggh Sorry to keep bombarding you guys with messages from our corporate censor robot, I'm trying to figure out what word in a second grade joke would be deemed offensive enough to have it prevent me from sending it to you for fear that you would think less of me as a human being. I'm going to keep trying, yes I am...to send you the joke, not to have you think less of me. _________________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir., "Help me, Mr. Wizard! I don't Raleigh Historic want to be here anymore!" Districts Commission - Tooter the Turtle [log in to unmask] 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:33:13 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Apparently juvenile jokes are offensive.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e4.33dd851.2b8fb3e9_boundary" --part1_1e4.33dd851.2b8fb3e9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk Only two stooges as I see it, this is getting moronic. --part1_1e4.33dd851.2b8fb3e9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0= 00000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FAC= E=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Only two stooges as I see it, this is getting moronic.</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e4.33dd851.2b8fb3e9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:37:30 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Arrggggh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Naw, that's the name of our mail server. All our servers are named after characters from a certain quaint little show from yore where going to Raleigh was a nite out on the big town... Let's see, there's server Andy, and Barney, and Bertha, and Clara, and Darlene, and Edna, and Elmo of course, Emmett, and Erma, and Ernest, and Etbass, and Ethel, and Fergus, and Fletch, and Freddy, and Gomer, and Goober, and Harlan, and Harvey, and Homer, and good ol' Jesse, and there's also Mayor, and Mberry, and Mtpilot, and our server farm wouldn't be complete without Otis, and Sams, and Skippy, and Spanky, and Warren. > -----Original Message----- > From: Pam Stevenson > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:16 PM >=20 >=20 > Dan - >=20 > Wasn't there an Elmo virus at one point? Maybe that's what=20 > McAfee is barfing on. Can you imagine little Elmo chunks=20 > spewed all over the screen? Not a pretty sight, to be sure. >=20 > - Pam >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Becker, Dan Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:20 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Arrggggh Sorry to keep bombarding you guys with messages from our corporate censor robot, I'm trying to figure out what word in a second grade joke would be deemed offensive enough to have it prevent me from sending it to you for fear that you would think less of me as a human being. I'm going to keep trying, yes I am...to send you the joke, not to have you think less of me. _________________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir., "Help me, Mr. Wizard! I don't Raleigh Historic want to be here anymore!" Districts Commission - Tooter the Turtle [log in to unmask] 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:32:03 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: mitch wilds <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Favorite second grade jokes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Spell " I cup" Courtsey of resident first grader Alex. -- F. Mitchener Wilds, Senior Restoration Specialist Restoration Branch State Historic Preservation Office 919/733-6547 http://www.hpo.dcr.state.nc.us ***My opinions may not be those of my agency.*** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail to and from me, in connection with the transaction of public business, is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:45:00 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Favorite second grade jokes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8FCBACDFC77D3A9332BA72AC" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8FCBACDFC77D3A9332BA72AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit or the IBM clocks we had @ James H Vernon mitch wilds wrote: > Spell " I cup" > > Courtsey of resident first grader Alex. > > -- > > F. Mitchener Wilds, Senior Restoration Specialist > Restoration Branch > State Historic Preservation Office > 919/733-6547 > http://www.hpo.dcr.state.nc.us > > ***My opinions may not be those of my agency.*** > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > E-mail to and from me, in connection with the transaction of public > business, is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be > disclosed to third parties. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> --------------8FCBACDFC77D3A9332BA72AC Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------8FCBACDFC77D3A9332BA72AC-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:48:12 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Arrggggh In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Our servers have mundane names, like RITDEV, RITTEST, RITPROD. I liked the days when we named one set Fred and Wilma - they worked as a pair, and the larger one was called Fred. It was so much easier to remember which one was which. BTW, did anyone hear that Mr. Rogers died this morning? No more plain white sneakers, cardigan and King Friday XIII. - Pam -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Becker, Dan Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:38 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Arrggggh Naw, that's the name of our mail server. All our servers are named after characters from a certain quaint little show from yore where going to Raleigh was a nite out on the big town... Let's see, there's server Andy, and Barney, and Bertha, and Clara, and Darlene, and Edna, and Elmo of course, Emmett, and Erma, and Ernest, and Etbass, and Ethel, and Fergus, and Fletch, and Freddy, and Gomer, and Goober, and Harlan, and Harvey, and Homer, and good ol' Jesse, and there's also Mayor, and Mberry, and Mtpilot, and our server farm wouldn't be complete without Otis, and Sams, and Skippy, and Spanky, and Warren. > -----Original Message----- > From: Pam Stevenson > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:16 PM > > > Dan - > > Wasn't there an Elmo virus at one point? Maybe that's what > McAfee is barfing on. Can you imagine little Elmo chunks > spewed all over the screen? Not a pretty sight, to be sure. > > - Pam > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Becker, Dan Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:20 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Arrggggh Sorry to keep bombarding you guys with messages from our corporate censor robot, I'm trying to figure out what word in a second grade joke would be deemed offensive enough to have it prevent me from sending it to you for fear that you would think less of me as a human being. I'm going to keep trying, yes I am...to send you the joke, not to have you think less of me. _________________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir., "Help me, Mr. Wizard! I don't Raleigh Historic want to be here anymore!" Districts Commission - Tooter the Turtle [log in to unmask] 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:05:44 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Arrggggh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Pam Stevenson Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:48 PM > BTW, did anyone hear that Mr. Rogers died this morning? No more plain white sneakers, cardigan and King Friday XIII. - Pam > Yeah, so what comes in today's mail? Bad timing or bad taste... > Subject: "When The Gays Move into Mr. Rogers Neighborhood" Diversity Program ATTENTION FACULTY AND STAFF! The Office of Student Life cordially invites you to "When the Gays Move into Mr. Roger's Neigborhood" on Wednesday March 5, 2003 at 8:00 PM in Marshall Auditorium. All ESF and SU students, faculty and staff are invited and encouraged to attend. This program explores the realities and human dimensions of living in a world of heterosexual privilege. The program features Joe Bertolino and Bil Leipold, who draw on their personal experiences as gay fraternity men and student affairs professionals, as well as family experiences and their own relationship, to present this difficult topic in an informal, non-threatening way that is addressed to all audiences. They present serious subjects in a funny, interactive and challenging style that gets people thinking about homophobia, heterosexism, and diversity from a new perspective. We encourage you, and your students, to attend this important -and entertaining! - program. This program was made possible with support from the ESF Office Of Student Life, ESF Undergraduate Student Association, Office of Multicultural Outreach, SU LGBT Resource Center, Office of Residence Life and Office Of Greek Life and Experiential Learning. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:15:19 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Arrggggh In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Is SU trying to infer that Mr. Rogers was gay? Maybe they hadn't heard the news yet. Doesn't everyone listen to NPR??? -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Bruce Marcham Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:06 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Arrggggh From: Pam Stevenson Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:48 PM > BTW, did anyone hear that Mr. Rogers died this morning? No more plain white sneakers, cardigan and King Friday XIII. - Pam > Yeah, so what comes in today's mail? Bad timing or bad taste... > Subject: "When The Gays Move into Mr. Rogers Neighborhood" Diversity Program ATTENTION FACULTY AND STAFF! The Office of Student Life cordially invites you to "When the Gays Move into Mr. Roger's Neigborhood" on Wednesday March 5, 2003 at 8:00 PM in Marshall Auditorium. All ESF and SU students, faculty and staff are invited and encouraged to attend. This program explores the realities and human dimensions of living in a world of heterosexual privilege. The program features Joe Bertolino and Bil Leipold, who draw on their personal experiences as gay fraternity men and student affairs professionals, as well as family experiences and their own relationship, to present this difficult topic in an informal, non-threatening way that is addressed to all audiences. They present serious subjects in a funny, interactive and challenging style that gets people thinking about homophobia, heterosexism, and diversity from a new perspective. We encourage you, and your students, to attend this important -and entertaining! - program. This program was made possible with support from the ESF Office Of Student Life, ESF Undergraduate Student Association, Office of Multicultural Outreach, SU LGBT Resource Center, Office of Residence Life and Office Of Greek Life and Experiential Learning. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:45:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Arrggggh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_120.1e729c9b.2b8fc4ed_boundary" --part1_120.1e729c9b.2b8fc4ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/2003 2:06:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > BTW, did anyone hear that Mr. Rogers died this morning? No more plain white > sneakers, cardigan and King Friday XIII. > Mrs. Ralph had occasion to meet him years ago and worked on some child-related project with him. She said he was exactly the same in real life as on TV, one of the nicest people she'd ever met (although a little strange by our current cynical standards), and an ordained minister. Ralph --part1_120.1e729c9b.2b8fc4ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/2003 2:06:19 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">BTW, did anyone hear that Mr. R= ogers died this morning? No more plain white<BR> sneakers, cardigan and King Friday XIII.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Mrs. Ralph had occasion to meet him years ago and worked on some child-relat= ed project with him. She said he was exactly the same in real life as=20= on TV, one of the nicest people she'd ever met (although a little strange by= our current cynical standards), and an ordained minister.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_120.1e729c9b.2b8fc4ed_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:02:16 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ken: In looking at the design snow loads for NYS (from the building code) I see that the highest square foot design load, not surprisingly, is upstate. 90 pounds in the Tug Hill area 80 pounds north of Amsterdam. Down your way it is 30 pounds. Two feet of water would be of the order of 125 pounds per square foot (62.4 pounds per cubic foot). That would be a REAL BAD THING unless the structural engineer went pretty wild with the safety factor. It sounds like the roof support structure was holding up worse than the roof itself. Amazing. I think I would've tried some sort of a siphon approach until it got down to at least one foot deep. Roofs loaded unequally (like your shop) are a problem too. My structural engineering friend tells me they take this into account (snow blowing over from one side to the other, for instance) when they do a serious design but most roofs (like my large garage where I just said something like, "yep gimme 40 pound live load, 20 pound dead load, 10 pound bottom chord trusses") are figured with a balanced load (maybe there is a safety factor in there of some sort for the unequal loading). Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:55 PM To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the gutter Our shop is spit with office on one side and uninsulated warehouse on the other. The office area had 5' of snow drifted and the uninsulated side was clear of snow. The heat on the unisulated side, kept at minimum above freezing, melted the snow. Then there are those owners who never think to clean their drains on a flat roof with parapets. It is no hyperbole that I have been on roofs with ponds with 2' of standing water. It is a nervous situation when you see them, and worse when you have to walk around on them. ][<en -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:16:39 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Lisa Sasser <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Koyaanisquatsi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII <HTML><HEAD> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2712.300" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Koyaanisquatsi was recently released on DVD, along with Powaqqatsi ("Life in Transformation"), the second film in the trilogy. Amazon sells both as a package deal. The third film, Naqoyqatsi hasn't been released yet on DVD, but there is some interesting information at <A href="http://www.naqoy.com/naqoy/">http://www.naqoy.com/naqoy/</A>. Naqoyqatsi is interpreted as "1. A life of killing each other. 2. War as a way of life. 3. Civilized violence."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Reminds me of something Bill Russell said lately to the effect that the real reason we're waging war on Al Qaeda and Iraq is their failure to recognize the UN resolution that "q" should always be followed by "u". Must mean we're going to declare war on the Hopi next.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Lisa</FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></DIV></FONT> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Met History</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 2/27/2003 6:39:39 AM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Cold Remedy</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SERIF"><BR>I think it means "Life out of balance" - or so Philip Glass says. Saw it performed at BAM with giant screen - astonishing. C </FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:46:26 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Heidi Harendza <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cold Remedy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6d.b2e2b73.2b8fd322_boundary" --part1_6d.b2e2b73.2b8fd322_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/2003 12:12:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ps; if anyone wants to see a non-electric shop, come visit our Amish > community. Just don't eat the food unless you have cholesterol numbers > below 50. > If anyone does want to come visit, the Vernacular Architecture Forum (VAF) will be having their 2004 conference in the Lancaster area. My department has been doing the field drawings in preparation for the conference this fall, and it is going to be an AWESOME conference. And knowing the VAFers love of pork products... well, think Homer Simpson in a brewery. -Heidi --part1_6d.b2e2b73.2b8fd322_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/2003 12:12:28 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ps; if anyone wants to see a no= n-electric shop, come visit our Amish<BR> community. Just don't eat the food unless you have cholesterol numbers<BR> below 50.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> If anyone does want to come visit, the Vernacular Architecture Forum (VAF) w= ill be having their 2004 conference in the Lancaster area. My department has= been doing the field drawings in preparation for the conference this fall,=20= and it is going to be an AWESOME conference. And knowing the VAFers love of=20= pork products... well, think Homer Simpson in a brewery.<BR> <BR> -Heidi</FONT></HTML> --part1_6d.b2e2b73.2b8fd322_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:00:29 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_39.34a7eee3.2b8fd66d_boundary" --part1_39.34a7eee3.2b8fd66d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You think I'm joking, but I'm not. He did something individual, and completely against the grain of our crappy, loud, commercial, gossip-focussed culture, and did it successfully. Although his show is often lumped together with Sesame Street, that was one show I really try to cut down on with my kids: jumpy, disconnected stuff, really just advertising with no particular product. The same people who thought it was too slow, too saccharine for little children are, I've always assumed, the ones who try to get them studying for their SATs when they're in first grade, because "they've got to get into a good college". You could segue into the Odyssey after Mr. Rogers; after Sesame Street you could only read cereal boxes. Here endeth the lesson. Christopher --part1_39.34a7eee3.2b8fd66d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">You think I'm joking, but I'm not. He did=20= something individual, and completely against the grain of our crappy, loud,=20= commercial, gossip-focussed culture, and did it successfully. Although= his show is often lumped together with Sesame Street, that was one show I r= eally try to cut down on with my kids: jumpy, disconnected stuff, real= ly just advertising with no particular product. The same people who th= ought it was too slow, too saccharine for little children are, I've always a= ssumed, the ones who try to get them studying for their SATs when they're in= first grade, because "they've got to get into a good college". = You could segue into the Odyssey after Mr. Rogers; after Sesame Street you c= ould only read cereal boxes. Here endeth the lesson.  = ; Christopher </FONT></HTML> --part1_39.34a7eee3.2b8fd66d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:42:34 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--640922513 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-2--640922513 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Point well taken. On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 11:40 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 2/27/2003 8:18:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > He doesn't want to bring in a > contractor and deal with it outside...he'd rather play with masonry > cement in the basement. > > > > If your choice was prostate cancer, bringing in a contractor, or > playing with masonry cement in the basement, which would YOU choose? > > Ralph --Apple-Mail-2--640922513 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Point well taken. On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 11:40 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/27/2003 8:18:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>He doesn't want to bring in a contractor and deal with it outside...he'd rather play with masonry cement in the basement. If your choice was prostate cancer, bringing in a contractor, or playing with masonry cement in the basement, which would YOU choose? Ralph</excerpt> --Apple-Mail-2--640922513-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:39:20 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: William Gould <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the tub In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3129215960_10461477_MIME_Part" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3129215960_10461477_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 2/27/03 9:48 AM, Ken Follett at [log in to unmask] wrote: Bryan, I assume this is autobiography. ][<en As I remember you are the owner of the devil duck. Oh, if that duck could talk. --MS_Mac_OE_3129215960_10461477_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: I'm in the tub</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> on 2/27/03 9:48 AM, Ken Follett at [log in to unmask] wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Bryan, I assume this is autob= iography. ][<en</FONT></FONT> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> As I remember you are the owner of the devil duck. Oh, if that duck c= ould talk. </BODY> </HTML> --MS_Mac_OE_3129215960_10461477_MIME_Part-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:50:30 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: William Gould <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3129216630_10501772_MIME_Part" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3129216630_10501772_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 2/27/03 4:00 PM, Met History at [log in to unmask] wrote: You think I'm joking, but I'm not. He did something individual, and completely against the grain of our crappy, loud, commercial, gossip-focussed culture, and did it successfully. Although his show is often lumped together with Sesame Street, that was one show I really try to cut down on with my kids: jumpy, disconnected stuff, really just advertising with no particular product. The same people who thought it was too slow, too saccharine for little children are, I've always assumed, the ones who try to get them studying for their SATs when they're in first grade, because "they've got to get into a good college". You could segue into the Odyssey after Mr. Rogers; after Sesame Street you could only read cereal boxes. Here endeth the lesson. Christopher For those who grew up with Mister Rogers, with his death comes the realization that life isn't for ever and that you have reached an age where those people you grew up with are beginning to disappear. I think its called getting older. --MS_Mac_OE_3129216630_10501772_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes.</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> on 2/27/03 4:00 PM, Met History at [log in to unmask] wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">You think I'm jokin= g, but I'm not. He did something individual, and completely against th= e grain of our crappy, loud, commercial, gossip-focussed culture, and did it= successfully. Although his show is often lumped together with Sesame = Street, that was one show I really try to cut down on with my kids: ju= mpy, disconnected stuff, really just advertising with no particular product.= The same people who thought it was too slow, too saccharine for littl= e children are, I've always assumed, the ones who try to get them studying f= or their SATs when they're in first grade, because "they've got to get = into a good college". You could segue into the Odyssey afte= r Mr. Rogers; after Sesame Street you could only read cereal boxes. &n= bsp; Here endeth the lesson. Christopher <BR> </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> <BR> For those who grew up with Mister Rogers, with his death comes the realizat= ion that life isn't for ever and that you have reached an age where those pe= ople you grew up with are beginning to disappear. I think its called g= etting older.<BR> <BR> </BODY> </HTML> --MS_Mac_OE_3129216630_10501772_MIME_Part-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:10:05 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Met History > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:00 PM >=20 >=20 > You think I'm joking, but I'm not. =20 I shall proffer a comment that is the bane of the newsgroup/listserv internet culture: Me too. ___________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "What's this? Fan mail Raleigh Historic from some flounder?" Districts Commission - Bullwinkle J. Moose [log in to unmask] 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:27:46 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. 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][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I'm in the tub MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > As I remember you are the owner of the devil duck. Oh, if > that duck could talk. Listen, Bill... it WAS NOT ME IN THE HALL PULLING THE FIRE ALARM IN MY UNDER PANTS that night! -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:59:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_125.1ee3a968.2b902aad_boundary" --part1_125.1ee3a968.2b902aad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/2003 9:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I was talking with one of my unusual friends today and he shared with me his > regret at the loss of his hero, Mr. Rogers. Ken, Funny thing, I generally feel one of two things in the morning upon rising (that is following the elation that the Big Guy has simply allowed me to wake up). Each day I approach with either dread, or anticipation of good things. It's incredible, but on those good days, as I step down onto the sidewalk, I without fail find myself singing in my head, "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!" Twybil --part1_125.1ee3a968.2b902aad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/27/2003 9:28:41 PM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I was talking with one of my un= usual friends today and he shared with me his regret at the loss of his hero= , Mr. Rogers.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ken,<BR> <BR> Funny thing, I generally feel one of two things in the morning upon rising (= that is following the elation that the Big Guy has simply allowed me to wake= up). Each day I approach with either dread, or anticipation of good things.= It's incredible, but on those good days, as I step down onto the sidewalk,=20= I without fail find myself singing in my head, "It's a beautiful day in the=20= neighborhood!"<BR> <BR> Twybil</FONT></HTML> --part1_125.1ee3a968.2b902aad_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:17:50 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: heroes and the songs in our heads In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--624406673 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-4--624406673 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Toward the end of my unhappy tenure with an unpleasant employer I got, "Somebody Turned On The Light" by Arlo Guthrie stuck in my head. Day after day, each return trip from the coffee pot I seemed to have the lines drilled into my skull, "Somebody said, ' who's life is this?', and I said,' that it can't be mine'". Maybe I'm nutz, or maybe songs we sing mean something. Just checked the lyrics...strange that the line, "Women, wine and fast red cars," didn't get stuck. Maybe it will now...but I doubt it. -jc On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 08:59 PM, Mike Devonshire wrote: > In a message dated 2/27/2003 9:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > I was talking with one of my unusual friends today and he shared with > me his regret at the loss of his hero, Mr. Rogers. > > > > Ken, > > Funny thing, I generally feel one of two things in the morning upon > rising (that is following the elation that the Big Guy has simply > allowed me to wake up). Each day I approach with either dread, or > anticipation of good things. It's incredible, but on those good days, > as I step down onto the sidewalk, I without fail find myself singing > in my head, "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!" > > Twybil --Apple-Mail-4--624406673 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Toward the end of my unhappy tenure with an unpleasant employer I got, "Somebody Turned On The Light" by Arlo Guthrie stuck in my head. Day after day, each return trip from the coffee pot I seemed to have the lines drilled into my skull, "Somebody said, ' who's life is this?', and I said,' that it can't be mine'". Maybe I'm nutz, or maybe songs we sing mean something. Just checked the lyrics...strange that the line, "Women, wine and fast red cars," didn't get stuck. Maybe it will now...but I doubt it. -jc On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 08:59 PM, Mike Devonshire wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 2/27/2003 9:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>I was talking with one of my unusual friends today and he shared with me his regret at the loss of his hero, Mr. Rogers. Ken, Funny thing, I generally feel one of two things in the morning upon rising (that is following the elation that the Big Guy has simply allowed me to wake up). Each day I approach with either dread, or anticipation of good things. It's incredible, but on those good days, as I step down onto the sidewalk, I without fail find myself singing in my head, "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!" Twybil</excerpt> --Apple-Mail-4--624406673-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:45:31 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Balls in the gutter In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That's the point we're at now. Not a comfortable place to be. It's hard enough to parent your kids, but to have to parent your parents is very difficult. I am having to make decisions about what to throw out and what to keep. Medical decisions have to be made and house repairs. There is no question of selling the place, it has been in the family for about 200 years and I'm not about to let it go. That's why we moved in here. Ruth At 7:56 PM -0500 2/26/03, Becker, Dan wrote: That's what my brother and I finally had to do for our childhood homeplace when it was time for Dad to simplify his life...role-reversal...we quit asking him, and told him what to do. Everything got much easier after that. D. -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:53:19 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: B & O Roof Collapse In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Somehow I don't think being out in the weather will hurt a choochoo train too much. Up here our trains run out in the weather all the time, even Amtrack. Falling roofs might be a different story. Ruth At 4:41 PM -0500 2/26/03, Ken Follett wrote: During the big snow I saw a report that the roof on the B & O museum round house in Baltimore had collapsed. There was a shot with a large area of roof missing. Any word on that? They have a hell of a nice collection of early American locomotives in there and I'm curious what effect the subsequent rain has had, let alone the damage to their displays from falling cut timbers and iron connections. ][<en -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:25:35 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Old workshops MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_115.1f9090f4.2b903ebf_boundary" --part1_115.1f9090f4.2b903ebf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:57:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > No, no, no, I know all about making sawdust, we have a sawmill here on the > farm. This is a MACHINE shop, they do funky things with hunks of METAL. > It looks like great fun but they measure things in thousandths of an inch > and I don't get any finer than an eighth so would never do. Ruth > I wouldn't limit myself to such coarse measurements, but on the other hand thousandths of an inch are way too small for me. Somehow, metal work scares me in a way that woodwork doesn't, and I don't really like plumbing because of all that goddam water rushing hither and yon, even in the pipes. I'm also nowhere near as accurate in sawdust fabrication as I'd like to be, and can't keep my goddam radical alarm saw square, which drives me absolutely nuts. Masonry is too messy for me, too; I like things that are dry and stay where you put them, although I suppose one could argue that masonry doesn't move much when installed by somebody who knows what the hell s/he's doing. Painting is OK, though, and staining and varnishing woodwork is heaven. Ralph --part1_115.1f9090f4.2b903ebf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:57:45 PM Eastern Stand= ard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">No, no, no, I know all ab= out making sawdust, we have a sawmill here on the<BR> farm. This is a MACHINE shop, they do funky things with hunks of METAL= .<BR> It looks like great fun but they measure things in thousandths of an inch<BR= > and I don't get any finer than an eighth so would never do. Ruth<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I wouldn't limit myself to such coarse measurements, but on the other hand t= housandths of an inch are way too small for me. Somehow, metal work sc= ares me in a way that woodwork doesn't, and I don't really like plumbing bec= ause of all that goddam water rushing hither and yon, even in the pipes.&nbs= p; I'm also nowhere near as accurate in sawdust fabrication as I'd like to b= e, and can't keep my goddam radical alarm saw square, which drives me absolu= tely nuts.<BR> <BR> Masonry is too messy for me, too; I like things that are dry and stay where=20= you put them, although I suppose one could argue that masonry doesn't move m= uch when installed by somebody who knows what the hell s/he's doing. P= ainting is OK, though, and staining and varnishing woodwork is heaven.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_115.1f9090f4.2b903ebf_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 06:57:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: The trouble was over, however, in an instant.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14d.1c641f81.2b90a890_boundary" --part1_14d.1c641f81.2b90a890_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From the Brooklyn Union-Argus, Tuesday July 22, 1879 MEYNER'S SHOT The Killing of Patrick M'DERMOTT, The Grocer Coroner's Inquest Yesterday Afternoon-The assassin's Conduct before and after the shooting-How MEYNER'S Bore the Terrible Ordeal-The Prisoner's Wife in Tears. At the Coroner's office, in the County Court House, yesterday afternoon, the inquest touching the shooting of Patrick MC DERMOTT, the Hudson avenue grocer, by the German cabinet maker, Nicholas MEYNERS, was held. The crowd in attendance was large, and many inquiring glances were from time to time directed toward the prisoner, who sat opposite the jury, in custody of his captor, Officer James RYAN, of the Second Precinct. As on the day of his arrest he wore only a cotton undershirt, cheap pantaloons, an old pair of red carpet slippers and coarse woolen socks. His face, naturally pale and bloodless, had become bleached into a ghastly yellowish white by his incarceration, and, with his long, thin, brown locks and scraggy beard, gave him a repulsive appearance. Captain CRAFTS, of the Second Precinct, was present. Michael SCHWARTZ testified: I live at No. 35 Hudson avenue. I am a harnessmaker and coachman. I know the prisoner by sight. I came up from his cellar. I was standing across the street. He had a white pitcher in his hand, and went to the corner of John street and Hudson avenue and spoke to the grocer's clerk. Afterward he came up out of the cellar, and went away again with a newspaper. I saw him return to the cellar. I did not again see him come out until the policeman had him. But I did stand there five or six minutes before that, and saw the grocery man that was shot take his two shutters off the door. Then he came down the sidewalk and wanted to take the rope off the post to tie up the shutters. I saw him have hold of the rope, and heard a shot. As soon as I heard the shot, MC DERMOTT threw himself around and looked into the cellar. Here the proceedings were for a moment interrupted by the entrance of the widow of the deceased, dressed in deep mourning and closely veiled. Several female friends were with her. The witness continuing said: MC DERMOTT fell about two feet from the curbstone; then he hollered several times; the first person to come to his assistance was his wife; I saw the smoke issuing from the cellar. Charles HARTMANN, of No. 30 Hudson avenue, testified: I am clerk in William NEWMAN'S grocery, corner of Hudson avenue and John Street; last Thursday morning I saw Mr. MEYNERS come into the store about ten minutes or a quarter of six: he sat down awhile and talked, as was his habit, for he came in several times every day; he said, "Good morning," and "A nice morning;" I paid little attention to him, as I was busy; he walked out; about five or eight minutes after that I heard a shot and went outside, and saw Mr. MC DERMOTT falling down in the roadway about two feet from the sidewalk. His wife came out. MEYNERS was apparently sober. He did not talk like a drunken man. On the night of July 3, MEYNERS came to the store to buy gunpowder. He asked me if I had any powder. I told him no, that I had none. He had a gun in his hand. I asked him to let me see it, and he showed it to me, and I saw it was empty and rusty. He told me it was a gun he brought from the war. He stayed around there a little while, went out and went into the basement. For three or four days before the shooting he seemed to have been drinking. I never saw him quarrel, though I heard he was quarreling with his wife. I know him since last October. When he came in with the pitcher he bought nothing. I do not know that I shook my head significantly that morning as he went out. I do not know that I shook my head significantly that morning as he went out. If I did I must have done it without cause. Mrs. Kate MC DERMOTT, the widow, testified: I live at 34 Hudson avenue. My husband left me Tuesday morning about seven o'clock and went to New York to work. He did not return until three o'clock Wednesday afternoon. He went to bed to et some sleep. He had no sooner laid down than Mr. MEYNERS and his wife quarrelled-commenced to fight-down-stairs. So my husband said to me: "Kate, please tell them to quit, or I cannot sleep, for I want some rest." I went out, and spoke down stairs to please stop fighting, for my husband wanted some sleep. He began to quarrel again with the wife, and she rushed up to my door, and he after her. Then she went out again, and hollered "murder," and my husband got up and spoke from his door, and said "Please, Mr. MEYNERS, you ought to be ashamed to be beating an old woman like that." That was all that took place. My husband went to bed, and did not get up until seven o'clock that evening, when he had his tea, and at nine o'clock put up the shutters and went to bed. On Thursday morning I woke him up, at six o'clock. He went out to take down the shutters, and told me to have breakfast ready. He had only just got out-not one minute-when I heard the report of the gun. I rushed for the door and heard him say: "Kate, Kate, the Dutchman in the basement door has shot me." He (pointing to the prisoner, who did not move a muscle) was standing at the basement door. When he heard my husband say that the Dutchman in the basement had shot him, he locked himself in. When I saw MEYNERS I did not mind whether he had anything in his hand-I was looking at my husband. My husband had never a word with MEYNERS but what I have told you. I did not see my husband strike him. My husband never went outside of his room door. Dr. Joseph F. O'CONNELL, House Surgeon at the Brooklyn Hospital testified: A large, circular ragged wound was found in the left post-interior thoracic region of MC DERMOTT'S body. The patient died at 1:30 P.M., six and a half hours after admission to the hospital, with symptoms of internal hemorrhage. I made the post mortem in the presence of Drs. SIMMS and SHEPARD. The ball was found. It had drilled its way through the eighth dorsal vertebra, and thence through the right lung, embedding itself between the seventh and eighth ribs. Death was due to internal hemorrhage. Bridget COSTELLO, of 34 Hudson avenue, second floor, testified: On Wednesday Mrs. MEYNERS came to my door about 3:30 o'clock in the afternoon, and told me her husband was licking her. I advised her to go to her own apartments, as I did not wish to have anything to do with her. Shortly afterward she went down stairs to her husband in the basement, and hollered out "Murder! murder! Neighbors come and save me! My husband is killing me." The neighbors rushed down. Mr. MC DERMOTT was standing at his own door in his stocking feet, and Mrs. MC DERMOTT with him. Mr. MEYNERS had a big iron poker, and was licking his wife. We cried shame on him to lick his poor old wife like that. AFter that about five o'clock , I was washing, and asked her to let me put some clothes on her line. She said I was welcome to do it. Then she said "Mrs., please; Mrs.., please won't you come here; my husband has a gun loaded to shoot me." The next morning about ten minutes of six I was coming across from the bakery with milk and bread, and I saw Mr. MEYNERS standing on the first step of the cellar and the gun behind his back. I said "Good morning" to him, and he returned the nod to me. As I was going up the stairs I saw him holding the gun behind him with both hands. On Wednesday evening about five or half past five o'clock when he was passing my door he remarked that he would settle parties in that house. My sister-in-law was standing by at the time. Her name is Kate COSTELLO. I was in my own room when I heard the report of the gun, and I saw the smoke coming from the basement. I saw Mr. MC DERMOTT fall into the street. he raised his hands. I called out to Mrs. MC DERMOTT that the man in the basement had shot her husband. Mrs. MC DERMOTT came out, and a crowd of people gathered. Some citizens carried Mr. MC DERMOTT into his room. I was not home the day before. I was working. Mrs. Kate MEYNERS, a little, wrinkled, gray-haired woman, was called to the stand. The tears coursed down her cheeks as she seated herself, and for the first time the prisoner, who had not been seen her since his arrest, seemed to take an interest in the proceedings. Until called upon she had been in an adjoining room. She testified in a broken voice: My husband had been drinking for fourteen days before this occurrence. I saw him have the gun that morning. He had it down stairs, and I was in the yard washing. That was near five o'clock. Here the witness had a crying spell, and covered her face with her shawl. I did not know whether the gun, was loaded. He never threatened to shoot me with the gun. I did not hear him say he was going to shoot anybody. I did not say to Bridget COSTELLO on Wednesday to come into my room that my husband had a gun to shoot me. I was married to him thirty-nine years, and he never said any such thing to me. The Coroner had to question and requestion the woman on this point. She grew excited, said that the newspapers had not told the truth, and in broken English said something about telling lies. She kept on saying: "I nebber said ???dings. Ve nebber had a gun loaded. Nobody ebber come into mein room" Finally the Coroner quieted her down, and she continued: I saw my husband take the gun down the basement. it was five o'clock. I heard the gun go off, but I knew nothing of what was done. I was down in the yard getting water. I saw no one. When I went in a policeman had my husband. The last statement called forth condemnatory shakes of the head and sighs of doubt from some of the women present. The witness continued: When I got in from the yard two policemen were in the basement. To a juror-My husband went early to bed Wednesday night at ten o'clock. He read much in the paper. He got up two or three times during the night and went down stairs. I saw no liquor with him that night. He did not drink that night, but was half out of his mind. On Tuesday he was drunk. To a juror-Liquor never came to my house. (A woman laughed incredulously.) He always went after it. I don't know where he went when he went down stairs that night. To the Coroner-I did not see him load the gun. Captain CRAFTS here held up the gun which witness in response to a question from the Coroner identified, saying: "It was seven years with us." Mrs. MC DERMOTT sobbed. To the Coroner-The gun had been in his room six weeks before he took it down. As the witness left the stand an officer gave her a seat between Mrs. MC DERMOTT and her husband. Patrolman James RYAN, of the Second Precinct, testified: I live at No. 168 Prospect street. On the morning of the 17th I was standing in Plymouth street, near Hudson avenue. I heard the report of a gun. I looked toward Hudson avenue and saw some parties run. I started and ran toward the corner, and down Hudson avenue. I saw Patrick MC DERMOTT lying in the street. I was told that he had been shot by a man that went into the basement of No. 34 Hudson avenue. I went down stairs and knocked at the door. The door was not opened, and I burst it in. Nicholas MEYNERS was standing inside of the door. I asked him why he shot that man. He replied: "He knows, I no see nobody. I wanted to fire off the gun." I arrested him, barricaded the front of the door, and took him out of the rear door. He and I barricaded it by putting the workbench against it and bolting it. We went through to the rear yard, and then came through the side hall into the street and went to the station-house. Officer HORAN was with us. To the juror-The basement is MEYNERS' workshop. He had tools, work bench, lumber, and one thing and another there. To the Coroner-The gun was inside the door with the hammer raised. Mrs. MEYNERS came into the cellar before I took her husband out. He did not seem to be under the influence of liquor. he appeared to be excited. I could not keep him still in the basement-he jumped from side to side-until I secured the door. To a juror-Standing at the door I could see anyone standing on the sidewalk-if pretty near. To the Coroner-MC DERMOTT was lying twelve or fifteen feet from the cellar door. I identify the gun shown as the one I found in the cellar. The Coroner called MEYNERS to the bar, and after duly cautioning him asked him if he had anything to say. The only reply was: "I don't know, I vos drunk!" "Sit down," said the Coroner, and the prisoner reseated himself. The Coroner then charged the jury. The jury soon returned with the following verdict: We the jurors impanelled in the case of the death of Patrick MC DERMOTT, who died at the City Hospital on Thursday July 17, 1879, at 1:30 P. M. , find that the deceased came to his death from internal hemorrhage, caused by a shot from a gun in the hands of NicholasMEYNERS, on the morning of July 17, 1879, at 34 Hudson avenue. The Coroner the committed the prisoner to jail. As MEYNERS was passing out between two officers, a woman-clad in mourning, and carrying an infant, confronted him. She is said to be a relative of the deceased. Accounts vary as to what transpired, as owing to the crowd passing out at the same time it was impossible to see the parties. Some say that the woman held up her hand menacingly, at the same time uttering a cry of rage; while others state that she seized the prisoner by the beard and would have plucked it out by the roots but for the interference of the officers. The trouble was over, however, in an instant, and the prisoner was hurried out of the building. > Transcribed by Kathy Jost-Shouse > --part1_14d.1c641f81.2b90a890_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">From the Brooklyn Union-Argus, Tuesday July 22, 1879<B= R> <BR> MEYNER'S SHOT The Killing of Patrick M'DERMOTT, The Grocer<BR> Coroner's Inquest Yesterday Afternoon-The assassin's Conduct before and <BR> after the shooting-How MEYNER'S Bore the Terrible Ordeal-The Prisoner's <BR> Wife in Tears.<BR> <BR> At the Coroner's office, in the County Court House, yesterday afternoon, <BR= > the inquest touching the shooting of Patrick MC DERMOTT, the Hudson avenue <= BR> grocer, by the German cabinet maker, Nicholas MEYNERS, was held. The c= rowd <BR> in attendance was large, and many inquiring glances were from time to time <= BR> directed toward the prisoner, who sat opposite the jury, in custody of his <= BR> captor, Officer James RYAN, of the Second Precinct. As on the day of h= is <BR> arrest he wore only a cotton undershirt, cheap pantaloons, an old pair of <B= R> red carpet slippers and coarse woolen socks. His face, naturally pale=20= and <BR> bloodless, had become bleached into a ghastly yellowish white by his <BR> incarceration, and, with his long, thin, brown locks and scraggy beard, <BR> gave him a repulsive appearance. Captain CRAFTS, of the Second Precinc= t, <BR> was present.<BR> <BR> Michael SCHWARTZ testified: I live at No. 35 Hudson avenue. I am a <BR= > harnessmaker and coachman. I know the prisoner by sight. I came=20= up from <BR> his cellar. I was standing across the street. He had a white pit= cher in <BR> his hand, and went to the corner of John street and Hudson avenue and spoke=20= <BR> to the grocer's clerk. Afterward he came up out of the cellar, and wen= t <BR> away again with a newspaper. I saw him return to the cellar.&nbs= p; I did not <BR> again see him come out until the policeman had him. But I did stand th= ere <BR> five or six minutes before that, and saw the grocery man that was shot take=20= <BR> his two shutters off the door. Then he came down the sidewalk and want= ed <BR> to take the rope off the post to tie up the shutters. I saw him have h= old <BR> of the rope, and heard a shot. As soon as I heard the shot, MC DERMOTT= <BR> threw himself around and looked into the cellar.<BR> <BR> Here the proceedings were for a moment interrupted by the entrance of the <B= R> widow of the deceased, dressed in deep mourning and closely <BR> veiled. Several female friends were with her.<BR> <BR> The witness continuing said: MC DERMOTT fell about two feet from the <= BR> curbstone; then he hollered several times; the first person to come to his <= BR> assistance was his wife; I saw the smoke issuing from the cellar.<BR> Charles HARTMANN, of No. 30 Hudson avenue, testified: I am clerk in William=20= <BR> NEWMAN'S grocery, corner of Hudson avenue and John Street; last Thursday <BR= > morning I saw Mr. MEYNERS come into the store about ten minutes or a <BR> quarter of six: he sat down awhile and talked, as was his habit, for he <BR> came in several times every day; he said, "Good morning," and "A nice <BR> morning;" I paid little attention to him, as I was busy; he walked out; <BR> about five or eight minutes after that I heard a shot and went outside, and=20= <BR> saw Mr. MC DERMOTT falling down in the roadway about two feet from the <BR> sidewalk. His wife came out. MEYNERS was apparently sober. = He did not <BR> talk like a drunken man. On the night of July 3, MEYNERS came to the s= tore <BR> to buy gunpowder. He asked me if I had any powder. I told him no, that I <BR= > had none. He had a gun in his hand. I asked him to let me see it, and he <BR= > showed it to me, and I saw it was empty and rusty. He told me it was a= gun <BR> he brought from the war. He stayed around there a little while, went o= ut <BR> and went into the basement. For three or four days before the shooting= he <BR> seemed to have been drinking. I never saw him quarrel, though I heard=20= he <BR> was quarreling with his wife. I know him since last October. When he c= ame <BR> in with the pitcher he bought nothing. I do not know that I shook my head <B= R> significantly that morning as he went out. I do not know that I shook=20= my <BR> head significantly that morning as he went out. If I did I must have d= one <BR> it without cause.<BR> <BR> Mrs. Kate MC DERMOTT, the widow, testified: I live at 34 Hudson <BR> avenue. My husband left me Tuesday morning about seven o'clock and wen= t to <BR> New York to work. He did not return until three o'clock Wednesday <BR> afternoon. He went to bed to et some sleep. He had no sooner lai= d down <BR> than Mr. MEYNERS and his wife quarrelled-commenced to <BR> fight-down-stairs. So my husband said to me: "Kate, please tell them t= o <BR> quit, or I cannot sleep, for I want some rest." I went out, and spoke=20= down <BR> stairs to please stop fighting, for my husband wanted some sleep. He b= egan <BR> to quarrel again with the wife, and she rushed up to my door, and he after <= BR> her. Then she went out again, and hollered "murder," and my husband go= t up <BR> and spoke from his door, and said "Please, Mr. MEYNERS, you ought to be <BR> ashamed to be beating an old woman like that." That was all that took=20= <BR> place. My husband went to bed, and did not get up until seven o'clock=20= that <BR> evening, when he had his tea, and at nine o'clock put up the shutters and <B= R> went to bed. On Thursday morning I woke him up, at six o'clock. He went out=20= <BR> to take down the shutters, and told me to have breakfast ready. He had= <BR> only just got out-not one minute-when I heard the report of the gun. I= <BR> rushed for the door and heard him say: "Kate, Kate, the Dutchman in th= e <BR> basement door has shot me." He (pointing to the prisoner, who did not move <= BR> a muscle) was standing at the basement door. When he heard my husband=20= say <BR> that the Dutchman in the basement had shot him, he locked himself in. =20= When <BR> I saw MEYNERS I did not mind whether he had anything in his hand-I was <BR> looking at my husband. My husband had never a word with MEYNERS but what I <= BR> have told you. I did not see my husband strike him. My husband n= ever went <BR> outside of his room door.<BR> <BR> Dr. Joseph F. O'CONNELL, House Surgeon at the Brooklyn Hospital testified: <= BR> A large, circular ragged wound was found in the left post-interior thoracic=20= <BR> region of MC DERMOTT'S body. The patient died at 1:30 P.M., six and a=20= half <BR> hours after admission to the hospital, with symptoms of internal <BR> hemorrhage. I made the post mortem in the presence of Drs. SIMMS and <BR> SHEPARD. The ball was found. It had drilled its way through the=20= eighth <BR> dorsal vertebra, and thence through the right lung, embedding itself <BR> between the seventh and eighth ribs. Death was due to internal hemorrh= age.<BR> <BR> Bridget COSTELLO, of 34 Hudson avenue, second floor, testified: On <BR> Wednesday Mrs. MEYNERS came to my door about 3:30 o'clock in the afternoon,=20= <BR> and told me her husband was licking her. I advised her to go to her own <BR> apartments, as I did not wish to have anything to do with her. Shortly= <BR> afterward she went down stairs to her husband in the basement, and hollered=20= <BR> out "Murder! murder! Neighbors come and save me! My husband is killing me."=20= <BR> The neighbors rushed down. Mr. MC DERMOTT was standing at his own door in <B= R> his stocking feet, and Mrs. MC DERMOTT with him. Mr. MEYNERS had a big= iron poker, and was licking his wife. We cried shame on him to=20= lick his poor old wife like that. AFter that about five o'clock=20= , I was washing, and asked her to let me put some clothes on her line.= She said I was welcome to do it. Then she said <BR> "Mrs., please; Mrs.., please won't you come here; my husband has a gun <BR> loaded to shoot me." The next morning about ten minutes of six I was coming=20= <BR> across from the bakery with milk and bread, and I saw Mr. MEYNERS standing <= BR> on the first step of the cellar and the gun behind his back. I said "Good <B= R> morning" to him, and he returned the nod to me. As I was going up the=20= <BR> stairs I saw him holding the gun behind him with both hands. On Wednesday <B= R> evening about five or half past five o'clock when he was passing my door he=20= <BR> remarked that he would settle parties in that house. My sister-in-law=20= was <BR> standing by at the time. Her name is Kate COSTELLO. I was in my=20= own room <BR> when I heard the report of the gun, and I saw the smoke coming from the <BR> basement. I saw Mr. MC DERMOTT fall into the street. he raised his han= ds. I called out to Mrs. MC DERMOTT that the man in the basement= had shot her husband. Mrs. MC DERMOTT came out, and a crowd of=20= people gathered. Some citizens carried Mr. MC DERMOTT into his r= oom. I was not home the day before. I was working. <BR> <BR> Mrs. Kate MEYNERS, a little, wrinkled, gray-haired woman, was called to the&= nbsp; stand. The tears coursed down her cheeks as she seated herself,=20= and for <BR> the first time the prisoner, who had not been seen her since his arrest, <BR= > seemed to take an interest in the proceedings. Until called upon she h= ad <BR> been in an adjoining room. She testified in a broken voice: My husband= had <BR> been drinking for fourteen days before this occurrence. I saw him have= the <BR> gun that morning. He had it down stairs, and I was in the yard <BR> washing. That was near five o'clock.<BR> <BR> Here the witness had a crying spell, and covered her face with her shawl.<BR= > I did not know whether the gun, was loaded. He never threatened to sho= ot <BR> me with the gun. I did not hear him say he was going to shoot anybody. I <BR= > did not say to Bridget COSTELLO on Wednesday to come into my room that my <B= R> husband had a gun to shoot me. I was married to him thirty-nine years,= and <BR> he never said any such thing to me.<BR> <BR> The Coroner had to question and requestion the woman on this point. She <BR> grew excited, said that the newspapers had not told the truth, and in <BR> broken English said something about telling lies. She kept on saying: "I <BR= > nebber said ???dings. Ve nebber had a gun loaded. Nobody ebber c= ome into <BR> mein room" Finally the Coroner quieted her down, and she continued:<BR> I saw my husband take the gun down the basement. it was five o'clock.&= nbsp; I <BR> heard the gun go off, but I knew nothing of what was done. I was down in <BR= > the yard getting water. I saw no one. When I went in a policeman had my <BR> husband.<BR> The last statement called forth condemnatory shakes of the head and sighs <B= R> of doubt from some of the women present.<BR> The witness continued: When I got in from the yard two policemen were in <BR= > the basement.<BR> To a juror-My husband went early to bed Wednesday night at ten o'clock. = ; He <BR> read much in the paper. He got up two or three times during the night and <B= R> went down stairs. I saw no liquor with him that night. He did not drink <BR> that night, but was half out of his mind. On Tuesday he was drunk.<BR> To a juror-Liquor never came to my house. (A woman laughed incredulously.) <= BR> He always went after it. I don't know where he went when he went down <BR> stairs that night.<BR> To the Coroner-I did not see him load the gun.<BR> Captain CRAFTS here held up the gun which witness in response to a question=20= <BR> from the Coroner identified, saying: "It was seven years with us."<BR> Mrs. MC DERMOTT sobbed.<BR> To the Coroner-The gun had been in his room six weeks before he took it down= .<BR> As the witness left the stand an officer gave her a seat between Mrs. MC <BR= > DERMOTT and her husband.<BR> <BR> Patrolman James RYAN, of the Second Precinct, testified: I live at No. 168 <= BR> Prospect street. On the morning of the 17th I was standing in Plymouth= <BR> street, near Hudson avenue. I heard the report of a gun. I looked towa= rd <BR> Hudson avenue and saw some parties run. I started and ran toward the <= BR> corner, and down Hudson avenue. I saw Patrick MC DERMOTT lying in the <BR> street. I was told that he had been shot by a man that went into the <BR> basement of No. 34 Hudson avenue. I went down stairs and knocked at th= e <BR> door. The door was not opened, and I burst it in. Nicholas MEYNE= RS was <BR> standing inside of the door. I asked him why he shot that man. He replied: <= BR> "He knows, I no see nobody. I wanted to fire off the gun." I arrested him, <= BR> barricaded the front of the door, and took him out of the rear door. H= e <BR> and I barricaded it by putting the workbench against it and bolting it. = ; We <BR> went through to the rear yard, and then came through the side hall into the=20= <BR> street and went to the station-house. Officer HORAN was with us.<BR> To the juror-The basement is MEYNERS' workshop. He had tools, work bench, <B= R> lumber, and one thing and another there.<BR> To the Coroner-The gun was inside the door with the hammer raised. Mrs= . <BR> MEYNERS came into the cellar before I took her husband out. He did not= <BR> seem to be under the influence of liquor. he appeared to be excited. I= <BR> could not keep him still in the basement-he jumped from side to side-until <= BR> I secured the door.<BR> To a juror-Standing at the door I could see anyone standing on the <BR> sidewalk-if pretty near.<BR> To the Coroner-MC DERMOTT was lying twelve or fifteen feet from the cellar <= BR> door. I identify the gun shown as the one I found in the cellar. The <= BR> Coroner called MEYNERS to the bar, and after duly cautioning him asked him <= BR> if he had anything to say.<BR> The only reply was: "I don't know, I vos drunk!"<BR> "Sit down," said the Coroner, and the prisoner reseated himself.<BR> <BR> The Coroner then charged the jury.<BR> <BR> The jury soon returned with the following verdict:<BR> <BR> We the jurors impanelled in the case of the death of Patrick MC DERMOTT, <BR= > who died at the City Hospital on Thursday July 17, 1879, at 1:30 P. M. , <BR= > find that the deceased came to his death from internal hemorrhage, caused <B= R> by a shot from a gun in the hands of NicholasMEYNERS, on the morning of <BR> July 17, 1879, at 34 Hudson avenue.<BR> <BR> The Coroner the committed the prisoner to jail. As MEYNERS was passing= out <BR> between two officers, a woman-clad in mourning, and carrying an infant, <BR> confronted him. She is said to be a relative of the deceased. Ac= counts <BR> vary as to what transpired, as owing to the crowd passing out at the same <B= R> time it was impossible to see the parties. Some say that the woman hel= d up <BR> her hand menacingly, at the same time uttering a cry of rage; while others <= BR> state that she seized the prisoner by the beard and would have plucked it <B= R> out by the roots but for the interference of the officers. The trouble= was <BR> over, however, in an instant, and the prisoner was hurried out of the buildi= ng.<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Transcribed by Kathy Jost-Shous= e <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_14d.1c641f81.2b90a890_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:08:30 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicholas Micros <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Cooper Union Contractor in Switzerland Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Ralph: How dare you call me a contractor! Conservator of Architectural Stone and Sculpture please! Nice to know someone misses me a little! I will actually be back in NYC for 3 weeks in April to finish a project for the City of NY. Now, is The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art (Foundation Building) ugly because it was designed ugly, or ugly because we restored it into a new state of ugliness? Inquiring minds want to know! Nick _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:22:42 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_l5wlOPbrvfYF/m/Dv1tT6w)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_l5wlOPbrvfYF/m/Dv1tT6w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Would you be mine, could you be mine, won't you be my neighbour? -----Original Message----- From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mike Devonshire Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:00 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. In a message dated 2/27/2003 9:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I was talking with one of my unusual friends today and he shared with me his regret at the loss of his hero, Mr. Rogers. Ken, Funny thing, I generally feel one of two things in the morning upon rising (that is following the elation that the Big Guy has simply allowed me to wake up). Each day I approach with either dread, or anticipation of good things. It's incredible, but on those good days, as I step down onto the sidewalk, I without fail find myself singing in my head, "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!" Twybil --Boundary_(ID_l5wlOPbrvfYF/m/Dv1tT6w) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3513.900" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><SPAN class=499272213-28022003>Would you be mine, could you be mine, won't you be my neighbour?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Mike Devonshire<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:00 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/27/2003 9:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE">I was talking with one of my unusual friends today and he shared with me his regret at the loss of his hero, Mr. Rogers.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Ken,<BR><BR>Funny thing, I generally feel one of two things in the morning upon rising (that is following the elation that the Big Guy has simply allowed me to wake up). Each day I approach with either dread, or anticipation of good things. It's incredible, but on those good days, as I step down onto the sidewalk, I without fail find myself singing in my head, "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!"<BR><BR>Twybil</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_l5wlOPbrvfYF/m/Dv1tT6w)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:36:39 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cooper Union Contractor in Switzerland In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm confused, you can offend at conservator by mistaking him for a contractor? -jc On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 07:08 AM, Nicholas Micros wrote: > Ralph: > > How dare you call me a contractor! Conservator of Architectural Stone > and > Sculpture please! > > Nice to know someone misses me a little! I will actually be back in > NYC for > 3 weeks in April to finish a project for the City of NY. > > Now, is The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art > (Foundation > Building) ugly because it was designed ugly, or ugly because we > restored it > into a new state of ugliness? Inquiring minds want to know! > > Nick > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:03:55 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cooper Union Contractor in Switzerland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_109.20c895ba.2b90c64b_boundary" --part1_109.20c895ba.2b90c64b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/28/03 8:09:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Now, is The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art (Foundation > I vote for designed ugly. Christopher --part1_109.20c895ba.2b90c64b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/28/03 8:09:17 AM Eastern St= andard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Now, is The Cooper Union fo= r the Advancement of Science and Art (Foundation <BR>Building) ugly because it was designed ugly</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I vote for designed ugly. Christopher </FONT></HTML> --part1_109.20c895ba.2b90c64b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:23:11 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [Fwd: Joiner's Rods and Story Rods] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080108080909030106010401" --------------080108080909030106010401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An email came into PTN asking for information. If anyone can help please respond back to [log in to unmask] ============================= -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Joiner's Rods and Story Rods Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:27:21 EST From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Dear Sir or Madam I am currently researching the subject of joiners 'rods', used to take and transfer dimensions without numerical measurements, and wondered if I could possibly enlist your help? As a joiner I have no difficulty describing the making and operation of rods, but other than George Ellis' Practical Modern Joinery (1907) I am struggling to locate sources that detail earlier use and/or examples. I wonder if you might be able to suggest somebody that I could contact for guidance in this matter? May I also offer to send you a copy of the completed paper for your archive? Yours sincerely Mike Bispham Sutton Joinery (Kent) 01304 361311 --------------080108080909030106010401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> <font color="#3333ff">An email came into PTN asking for information. If anyone can help please respond back to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>.<br> <br> <br> =============================</font><br> <br> -------- Original Message -------- <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <th valign="baseline" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">Subject: </th> <td>Joiner's Rods and Story Rods</td> </tr> <tr> <th valign="baseline" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">Date: </th> <td>Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:27:21 EST</td> </tr> <tr> <th valign="baseline" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">From: </th> <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a></td> </tr> <tr> <th valign="baseline" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">To: </th> <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <br> <br> <font face="arial,helvetica"><font size="2" family="SANSSERIF" face="Arial" lang="0">Dear Sir or Madam<br> <br> I am currently researching the subject of joiners 'rods', used to take and transfer dimensions without numerical measurements, and wondered if I could possibly enlist your help?<br> <br> As a joiner I have no difficulty describing the making and operation of rods, but other than George Ellis' Practical Modern Joinery (1907) I am struggling to locate sources that detail earlier use and/or examples.<br> <br> I wonder if you might be able to suggest somebody that I could contact for guidance in this matter?<br> <br> May I also offer to send you a copy of the completed paper for your archive?<br> <br> Yours sincerely<br> <br> Mike Bispham<br> <br> Sutton Joinery (Kent)<br> <br> 01304 361311<br> </font></font> </body> </html> --------------080108080909030106010401-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:45:20 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cooper Union Contractor in Switzerland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7c.3644caea.2b90d000_boundary" --part1_7c.3644caea.2b90d000_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/28/2003 8:09:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Now, is The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art (Foundation > Building) ugly because it was designed ugly I think it was designed ugly, and built of lousy material (ie, brownstone), and has been altered so as to become uglier. What do you think? Let the Pinheads know when you'll be here. We'll be happy to stay away from a party in your honor. Ralph --part1_7c.3644caea.2b90d000_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/28/2003 8:09:17 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Now, is The Cooper Union for th= e Advancement of Science and Art (Foundation<BR> Building) ugly because it was designed ugly</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> <I>I</I> think it was designed ugly, and built of lousy material (ie, browns= tone), and has been altered so as to become uglier. What do <I>you </I= >think? Let the Pinheads know when you'll be here. We'll be happ= y to stay away from a party in your honor.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_7c.3644caea.2b90d000_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:54:20 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_144.bce4f8a.2b90d21c_boundary" --part1_144.bce4f8a.2b90d21c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/28/2003 8:22:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Would you be mine, could you be mine, won't you be my neighbour? > Not if spell like that. Goddam furriners. Ralph --part1_144.bce4f8a.2b90d21c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/28/2003 8:22:22 AM Eastern Standa= rd Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff"= style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comi= c Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Would you be mine, could you be mine, won't you be my=20= neighbour?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff= " SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Not if spell like that. Goddam furriners.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_144.bce4f8a.2b90d21c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:45:24 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2DF1E.E18507C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2DF1E.E18507C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. Would you be mine, could you be mine, won't you be my neighbour Not if spell like that. Goddam furriners. Ralph=20 Of course, you realize that Mr. Rogers was a Canadian = invention/development. The Mr. started out as a puppeteer doing a = puppets and song show in Pittsburgh. He was invited by a producer at = CBC-TV to come to Canada and do a show, and Mr. came to Toronto thinking = he was going to do a children's puppet show series on TV. The producer = suggested that he take a different approach and described the format we = all came to know as the neighbourhood, and the Mr. Rogers show was born = and aired in Canada as a neighbourly combination of Canadian vision and = American talent. After a while, Mr. moved back to Pittsburgh and kept = it all going, taking along the Canadian notion that neighbourliness was = next to Godliness. I wish the current puppeteer in Wash. would take a lesson from history = and TV and listen to our current Producer (Prime Minister) and learn = what it is to value neighbourliness. It is probably the single most = effective basic spiritual practice we all have to govern human actions. cp in Rogers Land (where it might seem a bit dull and slow but we smile a lot) ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2DF1E.E18507C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><A=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS@Subject"><B>Subject</A>:</B> Re: = Mr. Rogers=20 was, really, one of my heroes.<FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT = lang=3D0=20 face=3DArial size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE"> <DIV></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20 face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT">Would you be mine,=20 could you be mine, won't you be my neighbour</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial = color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Not if spell like that. Goddam=20 furriners.<BR>Ralph</FONT> = </FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Of course, you realize that Mr. Rogers = was a=20 Canadian invention/development. The Mr. started out=20 as a puppeteer doing a puppets and song show in=20 Pittsburgh. He was invited by a producer at CBC-TV to = come to=20 Canada and do a show, and Mr. came to Toronto thinking he was going to = do a=20 children's puppet show series on TV. The producer suggested = that he=20 take a different approach and described the format we all came to = know as=20 the neighbourhood, and the Mr. Rogers show was born and aired in Canada = as a=20 neighbourly combination of Canadian vision and American = talent. =20 After a while, Mr. moved back to Pittsburgh and kept it all going, = taking=20 along the Canadian notion that neighbourliness was next to=20 Godliness.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wish the current puppeteer in Wash. = would take a=20 lesson from history and TV and listen to our current Producer (Prime = Minister)=20 and learn what it is to value neighbourliness. = It is=20 probably the single most effective basic spiritual = practice we=20 all have to govern human actions.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp in Rogers Land</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(where it might seem a bit dull and = slow but we=20 smile a lot)</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2DF1E.E18507C0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:13:19 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Yup, Cuyler, we hate 'em too... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14c.1c780d06.2b911cdf_boundary" --part1_14c.1c780d06.2b911cdf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/28/03 2:51:50 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: > I wish the current puppeteer in Wash. would take a lesson from history and > TV and listen to our current Producer (Prime Minister) and learn what it is > to value neighbourliness. CBC News reports that "Carolyn Parrish [Canadian MP] was speaking to reporters ....after most of the cameras were turned off, Parrish said 'Damn Americans ... I hate those bastards.'" Sign me, Always Wondered Who My Father Was - Guess He Was A Neighbour! --part1_14c.1c780d06.2b911cdf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/28/03 2:51:50 PM, cuyler@Ma= ple.Leaf writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I wish the current puppetee= r in Wash. would take a lesson from history and TV and listen to our current= Producer (Prime Minister) and learn what it is to value neighbourliness. &n= bsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Ar= ial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times=20= New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>CBC News reports that "Carolyn Parrish [Canadian MP] was speaking to rep= orters ....after most of the cameras were turned off, Parrish said 'Damn Ame= ricans ... I hate those bastards.'"=20 <BR> <BR>Sign me, Always Wondered Who My Father Was - Guess He Was A Neighb= our!=20 <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_14c.1c780d06.2b911cdf_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:42:59 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mr. Rogers was, really, one of my heroes. In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken, I'm so glad to see someone else has the same education philosophy that I do. We have exposed our boys to as many different things as are available here and they can take it or leave it. Oldest son at 23 is still having trouble finding himself and has recently gone to Albuquerque to visit my SIL and look for work. He is intending to relocate there if he can sell his truck here. Youngest son is 9th grade and much more studious, he is doing very well in school and hopes for a career in computer something. He has long had an inventive mind and we have gotten him joined up with an Inventors Club nearby. They are a bunch of old geezers who totally dote on the kid who has joined their group. I really hope that when the time comes my Dad goes the way of your father-in-law. My sincere condolences to your wife and family. He sounds like a really nice man and I'm sure he will be missed by his family. Ninety is a long time to live but if a person is in reasonably good health. Saw in the paper last week about a man from Maine who now lives somewhere in NY. The oldest man in US at 112. This man live alone until he was 107 and it said he caught the attention of the local TV station when he was seen shoveling off his porch roof at age 107. Ruth At 9:27 PM -0500 2/27/03, Ken Follett wrote: >> You think I'm joking, but I'm not. > >Sharpshooter: I see no joke. > >My wife went out to visit with, and look after, her father in Palo Alto >last week. She was there alone with him while her sister, whom he had been >living with, went off to visit her newest grand daughter. On Saturday my >wife called to tell me that when he went to get into his wheel chair he >fell to the floor. She hurt her back easing him down. Then had to get the >neighbors to assist in getting him off the floor and back into bed. There >was not much assistance that I could provide from home. On Sunday she >called again and I asked her how he was doing. She paused, then told me >that he had died a half hour previously. They had been listening to a mass >on the radio and she was giving him sips of orange juice and he died. > >Ed Ronan was a gentle quiet guy in a way reminding me of Mr. Rogers. For >twenty-plus years he worked for Texaco in Manhattan and was in charge of >keeping track of the whereabouts of 55-gallon drums, so I have been told. >He always enjoyed hearing about an interesting construction project, this >I know for a fact, though I was often warned to be cautious in my >conversation not to inadvertently let loose a blasphemy. He would be too >polite to say that he was hurt. In my life he always lived somewhere else, >so I never really got to know him. I have been told in some ways I am like >him, though I doubt very many people ever see it that good. He was at >peace with kids and spent a lot of his spare time supporting Kiwanis >baseball. Ed lived a long life at 90 and died quietly. I am thankful that >he did not ever indicate a desire to chase me away from his daughter, >though the circumstances were a bit suspicious. My last time spent with >Ed, on the weekend of his wife's memorial service, was at an assisted care >facility where the single women his age seemed to be in a tizzy to look >after him. The sharing of a bowl of stiff cafeteria jello can be a special >kindness. > >I was talking with one of my unusual friends today and he shared with me >his regret at the loss of his hero, Mr. Rogers. My friend keeps trying to >retire, but finds that churches keep asking him to do more. At 63 my >friend feels a bit pressed that his hero would die at 74. It is a natural >occurence and I think Mr. Rogers would have talked with us about it if he >were able. If there is a joke then it is because we are made nervous over >reminders of our own mortality. > >As to Sesame Street or Mr. Rogers, they both came after my time, for me it >was Shari Lewis and Howdy Doody. We have never pressed our son to SAT >achievement. It would be against our ornery principles and >counterproductive on his part. We have fed him with anything and >everything that we have been able to gather to reflect his interest... if >he reached towards a dinosaur then we cultivated dinosaurs, when he wanted >to go fishing we took him fishing. Our primary goal has been for him to >learn to survive. Sometimes it has simply been leaving things, like books, >around the house for him to discover in his own time. I do not believe >that he ever took a great deal of interest in Mr. Rogers... and having >just asked him he tells me that though he watched Mr. Rogers a lot that in >his opinion Sesame Street was much better. > >][<en >=FF=F4=E8=B5=EA=E6=8Av-z=9B=9E=AE)^=A6=B7=ACz=BB=DA=B6*'=A6=B6-=B6X=A7=81= =A9=A8=9E >Z=96=C6=A7v=D8^=BAw(}=F7=9E=FD=E7=FF=A2=BBhr=16=A7=81=EC=A8=BA=BB=1E=B6=D8= =A7=82=CF=E0=A2=DA=FF=FE=1Bm=A7=FF=FF=99=A7=A5"=DA=E8=9B=FB-=8E=88g"=F7=9D= =BB=F6=ABr=18=AFz=CF=DB=BAYZ=99=A9=E4k=FAb=9E=17=9Av=CF=E1=B6i=FF -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:13:46 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: my position X-To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_105.291256d5.2b912b0a_boundary" --part1_105.291256d5.2b912b0a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Mr. Okano: I am deeply shocked by your suggestion that we should profit by $48,000,000 on poor Mr. Mustapha's untimely death, and have reported you to the FBI, CIA, AIA, IEEE, ASID and Toys 'R Us. Please prepare to surrender yourself to our Sargeant-At-Arms, Mr. Dan Becker, when he shows up. Yr Obdnt Svnt, Kwame Nkrumah --part1_105.291256d5.2b912b0a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Dear Mr. Okano: <BR> <BR>I am deeply shocked by your suggestion that we should profit by $48,000,= 000 on poor Mr. Mustapha's untimely death, and have reported you to the FBI,= CIA, AIA, IEEE, ASID and Toys 'R Us. Please prepare to surrender your= self to our Sargeant-At-Arms, Mr. Dan Becker, when he shows up. <BR> <BR>Yr Obdnt Svnt, Kwame Nkrumah </FONT></HTML> --part1_105.291256d5.2b912b0a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:57:21 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ][<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Yup, "love is as perenial as the grass" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01C2DF5B.39246660" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C2DF5B.39246660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 2/28/03 2:51:50 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: I = wish the current puppeteer in Wash. would take a lesson from history and = TV and listen to our current Producer (Prime Minister) and learn what it = is to value neighbourliness. =20 CBC News reports that "Carolyn Parrish [Canadian MP] was speaking to = reporters ....after most of the cameras were turned off, Parrish said = 'Damn Americans ... I hate those bastards.'"=20 Yup, there are jerks everywhere. I wonder what TV she watched when she = was a kid. I hope she is forced to resign. That actually happens = here too when someone proves their ineptitude. The last one to resign = was also a woman who bad-mouthed the good old hew-hes-hay last Fall. = Is this a trend? Is it becoming a woman thing to do? I thought the = fair sex was supposed to bring an attitude of gentle persuasion and = motherliness to government once they were recognized as humans and = allowed to vote. This event reminds me of the famous "Uncle Don" moment on 1940's Chicago = Saturday Morning Children's Radio when the famous and much beloved Uncle = Don ended his syrupy network show with his usual sweet goodbyes and = then, thinking the mike was off, was heard all across the nation to = clearly say in a snarly voice "There, I hope that keeps the little = bastards for another week!" That was the last of Uncle Don and I hope = we have also heard the last of stupid Carolyn. cp lamenting bad attitude in the Maple Tree ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C2DF5B.39246660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV><FONT = face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT=20 lang=3D0 face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">In a = message dated 2/28/03=20 2:51:50 PM, <A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> = writes: </FONT><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">I wish the current puppeteer in Wash. would take = a lesson=20 from history and TV and listen to our current Producer (Prime = Minister) and=20 learn what it is to value neighbourliness. </FONT><FONT = lang=3D0=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#000000 size=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SERIF"><BR>CBC News=20 reports that "Carolyn Parrish [Canadian MP] was speaking to reporters=20 ....after most of the cameras were turned off, Parrish said 'Damn = Americans=20 ... I hate those bastards.'" <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Yup, there are jerks everywhere. I wonder what TV she = watched=20 when she was a kid. I hope she is forced to = resign. That=20 actually happens here too when someone proves their = ineptitude. The=20 last one to resign was also a woman who bad-mouthed the good old = hew-hes-hay=20 last Fall. Is this a trend? Is it becoming a = woman thing=20 to do? I thought the fair sex was supposed to bring an = attitude of=20 gentle persuasion and motherliness to government once they were = recognized as=20 humans and allowed to vote.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This event reminds me of the = famous "Uncle=20 Don" moment on 1940's Chicago Saturday Morning Children's = Radio when=20 the famous and much beloved Uncle Don ended his syrupy network show = with=20 his usual sweet goodbyes and then, thinking the mike was off, was heard = all=20 across the nation to clearly say in a snarly voice "There, I hope that = keeps the=20 little bastards for another week!" That was the last of = Uncle Don=20 and I hope we have also heard the last of stupid Carolyn.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp lamenting bad attitude in the = Maple=20 Tree</FONT><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Times New = Roman"=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SERIF"></DIV></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C2DF5B.39246660-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>