-- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:34:02 -0500 Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_uNvjcJAGSE6xOHzgR6PHug)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_uNvjcJAGSE6xOHzgR6PHug) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in August. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruth Barton To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:24 PM Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." Mark, Never fear on my account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better known by the highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the proper season. --Boundary_(ID_uNvjcJAGSE6xOHzgR6PHug) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in August.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ruth Barton</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 27, 2003 10:24 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's cold again...but hot online."</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>Mark, Never fear on my account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better<BR>known by the highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the<BR>proper season.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_uNvjcJAGSE6xOHzgR6PHug)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:36:43 -0500 Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Apparently this is the week for uproar MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KLGCUgIqWDvJZT/M5SBEVg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_KLGCUgIqWDvJZT/M5SBEVg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I think I'll delete this email ;-) All in good fun, of course. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuyler Page Lovingly, Cuyler not yet deleted in bc --Boundary_(ID_KLGCUgIqWDvJZT/M5SBEVg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>I think I'll delete this email ;-) All in good fun, of course.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Cuyler Page</A> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lovingly,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cuyler</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>not yet deleted in bc</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_KLGCUgIqWDvJZT/M5SBEVg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:06:03 -0500 Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Met History > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:52 AM >=20 >=20 > Has something happened to the cast stone industry, or is it=20 > just in New York? From my point of view, it is everywhere, and certainly not restricted to cast stone. See any number of ]<en's tracts bemoaning the loss of craftsmanship. Any of these treatments are pretty much nearly lost to the ages. Concrete work especially has lost any semblance of art. It seems that no one cares anymore. Boo hoo hoo. The drive to standardization and economization strike me as the death knell. These trends are what drove down the demand for craftsmen. See any number of Ruskin's tracts railing against the loss of craftsmanship. Now the client doesn't even know they can have it different if they wish to pay for it. Of course, none wish to pay for it, so it's pain they don't feel. Our society has anesthetized itself. We have an addition going up on the 1920s school in one of our historic districts; it is composed of rough-textured wire cut dark earth tone craftsman-style brick with cast concrete window sills, inset cast concrete lozenges, and concrete parapet. The sample cast concrete sills and lozenges in the mock-up panel are a good color match, but the texture is simply not there. The original has a sand surface texture, the sample is smooth as a baby's bottom [can I say that here?]. Same with the mortar, which is very gritty and textural in the original, and smooth bag cement in the sample. I jokingly told the jobsite supervisor that if we could just beat the sills with a chain, we could antique them better to match the originals.=20 I think he's under a lot of stress on this job. After I left, he immediately called the design architect and told him that I wanted the sills beat up. I want something beat up over this, but not the sills. There's a lost art to getting them the right patina...administering beatings with chains is not it. _____________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Conformists die, but Raleigh Historic heretics live on forever" Districts Commission -- Elbert Hubbard [log in to unmask] =20 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:50:51 EST Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: American Lime Conference in Monroe, VA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ea.694cbc.2b680eeb_boundary" --part1_1ea.694cbc.2b680eeb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en American Lime Conference in Monroe, VA March 1 and 2, 2003=20 Overview of speakers: =20 John Robbins National Park Service =E2=80=9CThe Role of the National Park Service in Historic Preservation=E2= =80=9D =20 Paul Livesey=20 Castle Cement/Heidelberg Cement=20 =E2=80=9CEarly Cements: the Binder of 1890-1910=E2=80=9D=20 =20 Professor John Ashurst=20 Ingram Consultancy=20 =E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Planning=E2=80=9D=20 =20 Jeff Baker=20 Mesick Cohen Wilson Baker Architects =E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Research=E2=80=9D =20 John Mesick Mesick Cohen Wilson Baker Architects =E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Research=E2=80=9D =20 Patricia Gibbons=20 Scottish Lime Centre Trust=20 =E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Execution=E2=80=9D=20 =20 John D. Addison, Chartered Civil Engineer and Conservation Engineer =20 Peter Stephens & Partners=20 =E2=80=9CTake the Strain...Gently, Please!=E2=80=9D=20 =20 William A. Revie=20 Construction Materials Consultants Ltd.=20 =E2=80=9CWhy the Engineer needs the Material Scientist=E2=80=9D=20 =20 Ken Duce National Park Service-Denver Service Center =E2=80=9CThe Preservation of Historic Defenses=E2=80=9D=20 =20 Mary Catherine Martin Lord Aeck Sargent Architects, Atlanta, GA =E2=80=9CThe Preservation of Historic Defenses=E2=80=9D =20 Judith Bischoff=20 National Park Service-Harpers Ferry Center=20 =E2=80=9CBiological Growth on Historic Structures=E2=80=9D=20 =20 Shelley Sass Sass Conservation/New York University =E2=80=9CBiological Growth on Historic Structures=E2=80=9D=20 For More information on the speakers and the conference in general. Please=20 visit www.virginialimeworks.com or call 434-929-8113. --part1_1ea.694cbc.2b680eeb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">American Lime Conference in Monroe, VA<BR> March 1 and 2, 2003 <BR> <BR> Overview of speakers:<BR> <BR> John Robbins<BR> National Park Service<BR> =E2=80=9CThe Role of the National Park Service in Historic Preservation=E2= =80=9D<BR> <BR> Paul Livesey <BR> Castle Cement/Heidelberg Cement <BR> =E2=80=9CEarly Cements: the Binder of 1890-1910=E2=80=9D <BR> <BR> Professor John Ashurst <BR> Ingram Consultancy <BR> =E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Planning=E2=80=9D <BR> <BR> Jeff Baker <BR> Mesick Cohen Wilson Baker Architects<BR> =E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Research=E2=80=9D<BR> <BR> John Mesick<BR> Mesick Cohen Wilson Baker Architects<BR> =E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Research=E2=80=9D<BR> <BR> Patricia Gibbons <BR> Scottish Lime Centre Trust <BR> =E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Execution=E2=80=9D <BR> <BR> John D. Addison, Chartered Civil Engineer and Conservation Engineer <B= R> Peter Stephens & Partners <BR> =E2=80=9CTake the Strain...Gently, Please!=E2=80=9D <BR> <BR> William A. Revie <BR> Construction Materials Consultants Ltd. <BR> =E2=80=9CWhy the Engineer needs the Material Scientist=E2=80=9D <BR> <BR> Ken Duce<BR> National Park Service-Denver Service Center<BR> =E2=80=9CThe Preservation of Historic Defenses=E2=80=9D <BR> <BR> Mary Catherine Martin<BR> Lord Aeck Sargent Architects, Atlanta, GA<BR> =E2=80=9CThe Preservation of Historic Defenses=E2=80=9D<BR> <BR> Judith Bischoff <BR> National Park Service-Harpers Ferry Center <BR> =E2=80=9CBiological Growth on Historic Structures=E2=80=9D <BR> <BR> Shelley Sass<BR> Sass Conservation/New York University<BR> =E2=80=9CBiological Growth on Historic Structures=E2=80=9D <BR> <BR> For More information on the speakers and the conference in general. Please v= isit www.virginialimeworks.com or call 434-929-8113.</FONT></HTML> --part1_1ea.694cbc.2b680eeb_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:20:02 EST Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_128.2185c995.2b6815c2_boundary" --part1_128.2185c995.2b6815c2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/27/2003 11:47:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > "Holes Drilled Into Bathroom Partitions To Facilitate Anonymous Gay Sex" > > At the risk of bringing up lunch yet again, I seem to remember seeing an, > uh, educational film in my yout' (while at Columbia) which depicted > semi-anonymous heterosexual congress conducted through a hole in a toilet > partition. While interesting, there were limitations to its appeal. > > Ralph --part1_128.2185c995.2b6815c2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/27/2003 11:47:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">"Holes Drilled Into Bathroom Partitions To Facilitate Anonymous Gay Sex" <BR> <BR> At the risk of bringing up lunch yet again, I seem to remember seeing an, uh, educational film in my yout' (while at Columbia) which depicted semi-anonymous heterosexual congress conducted through a hole in a toilet partition. While interesting, there were limitations to its appeal.<BR> <BR> Ralph</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_128.2185c995.2b6815c2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:28:28 EST Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Apparently this is the week for uproar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b9.2d92698c.2b6817bc_boundary" --part1_b9.2d92698c.2b6817bc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/28/2003 2:03:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Premier of the Province who, while in Maui for a holiday, got busted, > handcuffed and mug-shot for drunken driving and a breath test at 1.64 on > the roadside instrument. Cuyler, How nice to know that government officials up there, which we tend to think of as merely boring, are in fact every bit as stupid as our generally more loudmouthed officials down here. On the other hand, my longstanding view of communism is that if capitalism is as fucked up as we know it to be, how much unspeakably worse must communism be? Ralph --part1_b9.2d92698c.2b6817bc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/28/2003 2:03:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Premier of the Province who, while in Maui for a holiday, got busted, handcuffed and mug-shot for drunken driving and a breath test at 1.64 on the roadside instrument.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Cuyler,<BR> <BR> How nice to know that government officials up there, which we tend to think of as merely boring, are in fact every bit as stupid as our generally more loudmouthed officials down here. On the other hand, my longstanding view of communism is that if capitalism is as fucked up as we know it to be, how much unspeakably worse must communism be?<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_b9.2d92698c.2b6817bc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:32:23 -0500 Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan 2003 (#2003-27) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2C6F3.380868BF" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C6F3.380868BF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Keep me on the list while I work out our new anti-spam receiving filter. I'm currently in the dark... Thanks. QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA 219 1/2 N. Main Street Ann Arbor, MI 48104 [log in to unmask] www.quinnevans.com v 734.663.5888 f 734.663.5044 > -----Original Message----- > From: The fundamentally unclean listserv > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Automatic digest processor > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:01 AM > To: Recipients of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS digests > Subject: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan 2003 > (#2003-27) >=20 > << File: Deleted Attachment.txt >>=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C6F3.380868BF Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 6.0.6249.1"> <TITLE>RE: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan 2003 = (#2003-27)</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Keep me on the list = while I work out our new anti-spam receiving filter. I'm currently = in the dark… Thanks.</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS</FONT> </P> <P><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA</FONT></B> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">219 1/2 N. Main Street</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ann Arbor, MI 48104</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">[log in to unmask]</FONT> <BR><A HREF=3D"file://www.quinnevans.com"><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">www.quinnevans.com</FONT></U></A> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">v 734.663.5888</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">f 734.663.5044</FONT> </P> <BR> <UL> <P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"></FONT> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">From: </FONT></B> <FONT = SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">The fundamentally unclean listserv [</FONT><A = HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"><U><FONT = COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">mailto:[log in to unmask]</FONT></= U></A><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">] </FONT><B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">On Behalf Of</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">Automatic digest processor</FONT></P> <P><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Sent: </FONT></B> <FONT = SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:01 AM</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">To: </FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">Recipients of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS digests</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Tahoma">Subject: </FONT>= </B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - = 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan 2003 (#2003-27)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> << File: Deleted = Attachment.txt >> </FONT> </P> </UL> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C6F3.380868BF-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:38:27 EST Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_154.1b064c22.2b681a13_boundary" --part1_154.1b064c22.2b681a13_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/28/2003 9:07:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Same with the mortar, which is very gritty and textural in the original, and > smooth bag cement in the sample. Dan, Bet it's got that lovely green tint that new cementitious products always seem to have, too. Gotta go puke now. Ralph --part1_154.1b064c22.2b681a13_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/28/2003 9:07:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Same with the mortar, which is very gritty and textural in the original, and<BR> smooth bag cement in the sample.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Dan,<BR> <BR> Bet it's got that lovely green tint that new cementitious products always seem to have, too.<BR> <BR> Gotta go puke now.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_154.1b064c22.2b681a13_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:39:26 -0600 Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan 2003 (#2003-27) In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-38-1043856741 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-38-1043856741 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-39-1043856741 --Apple-Mail-39-1043856741 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Try the Safari web browser. The junkmail filter is pretty slick! And=20= the browser is elegant! -jc On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 11:32 AM, Ilene R. Tyler wrote: > Keep me on the list while I work out our new anti-spam receiving=20 > filter.=A0 I'm currently in the dark=85=A0 Thanks. > > > QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS > > Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA > > 219 1/2 N. Main Street > Ann Arbor, MI=A0 48104 > [log in to unmask] > www.quinnevans.com > v 734.663.5888 > f 734.663.5044 > > > =A0-----Original Message----- > From: =A0 The fundamentally unclean listserv=20 > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=A0 On Behalf Of=20 > Automatic digest processor > > Sent:=A0=A0 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:01 AM > To:=A0=A0=A0=A0 Recipients of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS digests > Subject:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan = 2003 to 28 Jan=20 > 2003 (#2003-27) > > =A0<< File: Deleted Attachment.txt >> > > --Apple-Mail-39-1043856741 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Try the Safari web browser. The junkmail filter is pretty slick! And the browser is elegant! -jc On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 11:32 AM, Ilene R. Tyler wrote: = <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</par= am><smaller>Keep me on the list while I work out our new anti-spam receiving filter.=A0 I'm currently in the dark=85=A0 Thanks.</smaller></color></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>QUINN EVANS | = ARCHITECTS</smaller></fontfamily> <bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Ilene R. Tyler, = FAIA</smaller></fontfamily></bold> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>219 1/2 N. Main Street Ann Arbor, MI=A0 48104 [log in to unmask] <underline><color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</param>www.quinnevans.com </color></underline>v 734.663.5888 f 734.663.5044</smaller></fontfamily> =A0<smaller><smaller>-----Original Message----- <bold>From: =A0</bold></smaller></smaller> <smaller><smaller>The fundamentally unclean listserv = [<underline><color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</param>mailto:BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS= @MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU</color></underline>]=A0</smaller></smaller><bold> <smaller><smaller>On Behalf Of</smaller></smaller></bold> <smaller><smaller>Automatic digest processor</smaller></smaller> <bold><smaller><smaller>Sent:=A0=A0</smaller></smaller></bold> <smaller><smaller>Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:01 AM <bold>To:=A0=A0=A0=A0</bold></smaller></smaller> = <smaller><smaller>Recipients of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS digests <bold>Subject:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0</bold></smaller></smaller>=A0<smaller>= <smaller> BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan 2003 = (#2003-27)</smaller></smaller> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>=A0<<<< File: Deleted Attachment.txt >></smaller></fontfamily> </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-39-1043856741-- --Apple-Mail-38-1043856741 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0644; name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Callan\,AIA;John;;;=0D FN:John Callan\,AIA=0D ORG:John Callan\,Architect\,Inc.;=0D TITLE:Principal Architect=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:[log in to unmask] EMAIL;type=3DWORK:[log in to unmask] TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL:(651) 486-7579=0D TEL;type=3DFAX:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:(612) 817-1176=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;784 Deerwood Circle;Lino = Lakes;MN;55014-5433;United States=0D NOTE:Historic Preservation and Museum Services\nSusan=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:johncallanaia=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK:johncallanaia1=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-38-1043856741 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-40-1043856742 --Apple-Mail-40-1043856742 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-40-1043856742 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII --Apple-Mail-40-1043856742-- --Apple-Mail-38-1043856741-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:41:40 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan 2003(#2003-27) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0C4FF2D1EBD7CFB44C9FB51E" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0C4FF2D1EBD7CFB44C9FB51E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BD45A55F147330C9178C81C2" --------------BD45A55F147330C9178C81C2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Ilene R. Tyler" wrote: > Keep me on the list while I work out our new anti-spam receiving > filter. I'm currently in the dark… Thanks. > > QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS > Please keep us advised inre anti-spam filter.... I for one am ready to purchase anything that anyone endorses to cut down on the spam.. I'm sure that having the same email address for 7 yrs doesn't help... DD --------------BD45A55F147330C9178C81C2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <p>"Ilene R. Tyler" wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>Keep me on the list while I work out our new anti-spam receiving filter. I'm currently in the dark… Thanks.</font></font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS</font></font> <br> </blockquote> Please keep us advised inre anti-spam filter.... <br>I for one am ready to purchase anything that anyone endorses to cut down on the spam.. <br>I'm sure that having the same email address for 7 yrs doesn't help... <p>DD</html> --------------BD45A55F147330C9178C81C2-- --------------0C4FF2D1EBD7CFB44C9FB51E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------0C4FF2D1EBD7CFB44C9FB51E-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:57:08 EST Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: "Mark W. James" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e0.867f49.2b681e74_boundary" --part1_1e0.867f49.2b681e74_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/28/2003 6:07:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The drive to standardization and economization strike me as the death > knell. These trends are what drove down the demand for craftsmen. See > any number of Ruskin's tracts railing against the loss of craftsmanship. > There was a time in America when the craftsman was in great demand, and valued. Then again, the craftsman was true, and not pretending to be something he wasn't as we have all seen the effects. Unfortunately, many of the old tricks and skills were buried with the men who held them as trade secrets. That is why it is important to participate in some of the groups that are doing something about it like PTN, and Virginia Lime Works. (No I wasn't paid to say that.) They promote sharing of skills. Back in the old days it was just as expensive for the creation as it is today, but the values of people were different. So much of what goes on display is fake, much like the people who possess the display. It isn't what they personally value anymore, but rather what they think their neigbors value, which gives them a false sense of acceptance. Is the key not in education? Educating the craftsman and educating the client. I was told while doing trade shows that the products I was offering were being scoped out by others only to be mass produced at a later date. In Matthew we read "Where your treasure is, that's where your heart will be also." It seems the treasure is money in most cases. Sad but true. Anything that becomes popular is soon mass produced and on sale at Walmart. So everyone can display a fake, for their fake egos to impress their fake friends. You were probably right in that beating with a chain restored the sill, however, as is true with most application, one should do it at night, unseen by fake eyes, that begat critical mouths. Then again, maybe i have missed the point all together. Mark --part1_1e0.867f49.2b681e74_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/28/2003 6:07:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The drive to standardization and economization strike me as the death<BR> knell. These trends are what drove down the demand for craftsmen. See<BR> any number of Ruskin's tracts railing against the loss of craftsmanship.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> There was a time in America when the craftsman was in great demand, and valued. Then again, the craftsman was true, and not pretending to be something he wasn't as we have all seen the effects. Unfortunately, many of the old tricks and skills were buried with the men who held them as trade secrets. That is why it is important to participate in some of the groups that are doing something about it like PTN, and Virginia Lime Works. (No I wasn't paid to say that.) They promote sharing of skills. Back in the old days it was just as expensive for the creation as it is today, but the values of people were different. So much of what goes on display is fake, much like the people who possess the display. It isn't what they personally value anymore, but rather what they think their neigbors value, which gives them a false sense of acceptance. Is the key not in education? Educating the craftsman and educating the client.<BR> <BR> I was told while doing trade shows that the products I was offering were being scoped out by others only to be mass produced at a later date. In Matthew we read "Where your treasure is, that's where your heart will be also." It seems the treasure is money in most cases. Sad but true. Anything that becomes popular is soon mass produced and on sale at Walmart. So everyone can display a fake, for their fake egos to impress their fake friends.<BR> <BR> You were probably right in that beating with a chain restored the sill, however, as is true with most application, one should do it at night, unseen by fake eyes, that begat critical mouths. Then again, maybe i have missed the point all together.<BR> Mark</FONT></HTML> --part1_1e0.867f49.2b681e74_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:02:46 EST Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_10f.1da3d483.2b681fc6_boundary" --part1_10f.1da3d483.2b681fc6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a lost art to getting them the right patina...administering beatings with chains is not it. Dan, If you can induce Twybil he may tell you his story about the chain beated board. ][<en --part1_10f.1da3d483.2b681fc6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">There's a lost art to getting them the right patina...administering beatings with chains is not it.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Dan,<BR> <BR> If you can induce Twybil he may tell you his story about the chain beated board.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_10f.1da3d483.2b681fc6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:27:45 -0500 Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralph Walter > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:38 PM >=20 >=20 > Bet it's got that lovely green tint that new cementitious=20 > products always seem to have, too. No, actually the color they tried is nowhere near the original color of cold grey white; theirs was a light tan/beige the color of new baby soiled diapers. > Gotta go puke now. HTH. ___________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Somebody blows their nose=20 Raleigh Historic and you want to keep it?" Districts Commission - Dr. Peter Venkman [log in to unmask] 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:29:58 -0500 Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan 2003 (#2003-27) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: John Callan > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:39 PM >=20 >=20 > Try the Safari web browser. The junkmail filter is pretty=20 > slick! And the browser is elegant! And she needs to be running a Mac! Which is not completely likely, though being an architect improves the odds slightly! dan the mac snob becker -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:47:55 -0600 Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan 2003 (#2003-27) In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-48-1047965891 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-48-1047965891 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-49-1047965891 --Apple-Mail-49-1047965891 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed (me too...but don't tell anyone, its a secret...they don't even know that those files I send them aren't really autocad!) On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 12:29 PM, Becker, Dan wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Callan >> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:39 PM >> >> >> Try the Safari web browser. The junkmail filter is pretty >> slick! And the browser is elegant! > > And she needs to be running a Mac! Which is not completely likely, > though being an architect improves the odds slightly! > > dan the mac snob becker > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > --Apple-Mail-49-1047965891 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII (me too...but don't tell anyone, its a secret...they don't even know that those files I send them aren't <bold><italic>really</italic></bold> autocad!) On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 12:29 PM, Becker, Dan wrote: <excerpt><excerpt>-----Original Message----- From: John Callan Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:39 PM Try the Safari web browser. The junkmail filter is pretty slick! And the browser is elegant! </excerpt> And she needs to be running a Mac! Which is not completely likely, though being an architect improves the odds slightly! dan the mac snob becker -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <<http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> </excerpt> --Apple-Mail-49-1047965891-- --Apple-Mail-48-1047965891 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0644; name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Callan\,AIA;John;;;=0D FN:John Callan\,AIA=0D ORG:John Callan\,Architect\,Inc.;=0D TITLE:Principal Architect=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:[log in to unmask] EMAIL;type=3DWORK:[log in to unmask] TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL:(651) 486-7579=0D TEL;type=3DFAX:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:(612) 817-1176=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;784 Deerwood Circle;Lino = Lakes;MN;55014-5433;United States=0D NOTE:Historic Preservation and Museum Services\nSusan=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:johncallanaia=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK:johncallanaia1=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-48-1047965891 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-50-1047965892 --Apple-Mail-50-1047965892 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-50-1047965892 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII --Apple-Mail-50-1047965892-- --Apple-Mail-48-1047965891-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:47:25 EST Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a2.32ad610e.2b682a3d_boundary" --part1_a2.32ad610e.2b682a3d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has something happened to the cast stone industry, or is it just in New York? A lot has happened to the cast stone industry... mostly it is driven by who pays for it (the market) and what those who pay want done in respect of how much they want to pay. There is an industry association and they do technical research and issue publications and hold conferences. The big money in cast stone (concrete castings) though I think is in concrete pipe. Concrete pipe leads to capital that can in turn be invested in aesthetic work, and so often you have firms that actually know a lot about concrete pipe who decide to venture into aesthetic work as a market niche. They may know about concrete pipe, but they know less about aesthetics, and when they venture into histo presto they may know even less. If you look at the surface area of a concrete pipe you may notice that it is not exactly exciting stuff. If there is no capital driven market for cast stone then it will not be explored as a creative medium, setting aside the brilliant recent developments in lawn elves, frogs, and prancing deer. It is a challenge to imitate an existing manufactured product and make it look authentic to the original. There are less than a handfull of small manufacturers who have over the last 15 years, at least in the NYC market, developed their skills specific to the histo presto market, such as Alan Barr with Town House Restorations. The "brownstone" steps on the New 42dn Street Theater are a good example. I enjoy the challenge of repairing damaged cast stone, either historic or new, and making it look whole. An early attempt for us at this was on the 2nd Ave. Theater where we had to make Salmon colored patches and work chips of white marble into them. In some respects on the theater it worked, in some areas it continues to look like ____. That project was a classic in nightmare management... connected with the site foreman who was caught naked by the esteemed resident out on a Penthouse terrace at his previous project. When concrete pipe manufaturers make limestone headers for windows on new work it is amazing how the installers chip, scrape and otherwise muck up the pieces, including leaving upsidedown black boot prints. So you get a 25 story school at Battery Park with a brick & precast/limestone skin with mucked up headers on the first floor, that obviously cannot be removed, and an architect with a hard __ and the power of "punch list" holding up $500,000. Sometimes you can make a lot of money with a bucket of colored mud. Another answer to your question is GFRC. Lighter, easier, faster in production and installation. New construction in general wants less expense, and if there is going to be an expense for new construction, then it is more likely that premium products, such as natural stone would be used. Cast stone rarely seems to exist for the aesthetic possiblities of the material in and of itself, but as a faux representation of other masonry materials such as stone or terra cotta. ][<en --part1_a2.32ad610e.2b682a3d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Has something happened to the cast stone industry, or is it just in New York?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> A lot has happened to the cast stone industry... mostly it is driven by who pays for it (the market) and what those who pay want done in respect of how much they want to pay. There is an industry association and they do technical research and issue publications and hold conferences.<BR> <BR> The big money in cast stone (concrete castings) though I think is in concrete pipe. Concrete pipe leads to capital that can in turn be invested in aesthetic work, and so often you have firms that actually know a lot about concrete pipe who decide to venture into aesthetic work as a market niche. They may know about concrete pipe, but they know less about aesthetics, and when they venture into histo presto they may know even less. If you look at the surface area of a concrete pipe you may notice that it is not exactly exciting stuff.<BR> <BR> If there is no capital driven market for cast stone then it will not be explored as a creative medium, setting aside the brilliant recent developments in lawn elves, frogs, and prancing deer.<BR> <BR> It is a challenge to imitate an existing manufactured product and make it look authentic to the original. There are less than a handfull of small manufacturers who have over the last 15 years, at least in the NYC market, developed their skills specific to the histo presto market, such as Alan Barr with Town House Restorations. The "brownstone" steps on the New 42dn Street Theater are a good example.<BR> <BR> I enjoy the challenge of repairing damaged cast stone, either historic or new, and making it look whole. An early attempt for us at this was on the 2nd Ave. Theater where we had to make Salmon colored patches and work chips of white marble into them. In some respects on the theater it worked, in some areas it continues to look like ____. That project was a classic in nightmare management... connected with the site foreman who was caught naked by the esteemed resident out on a Penthouse terrace at his previous project. When concrete pipe manufaturers make limestone headers for windows on new work it is amazing how the installers chip, scrape and otherwise muck up the pieces, including leaving upsidedown black boot prints. So you get a 25 story school at Battery Park with a brick & precast/limestone skin with mucked up headers on the first floor, that obviously cannot be removed, and an architect with a hard __ and the power of "punch list" holding up $500,000. Sometimes you can make a lot of money with a bucket of colored mud.<BR> <BR> Another answer to your question is GFRC. Lighter, easier, faster in production and installation. New construction in general wants less expense, and if there is going to be an expense for new construction, then it is more likely that premium products, such as natural stone would be used. <BR> <BR> Cast stone rarely seems to exist for the aesthetic possiblities of the material in and of itself, but as a faux representation of other masonry materials such as stone or terra cotta.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_a2.32ad610e.2b682a3d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:47:23 EST Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Apparently this is the week for uproar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_165.1a6272c1.2b682a3b_boundary" --part1_165.1a6272c1.2b682a3b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Historic sites, for example are being "Devolutionized" with bureaucrats saying with big smiles at public meetings that the whole point of investing millions of tax dollars into restoration and preservation of the places for decades has always been with the idea of giving them up and letting them rot one day. Cuyler, This reminds me of a black bear restoration program in Vermont I saw on TV and how this guy raised three cubs, they were so cute, and then when they were not so cute he let them go into the wild, with radio beacon collars and all worried they would not get on too well in NATURE, and then they showed another guy, what looked like a poor sap in hunting gear that could have been Sharphooter's plumber, that shot the male bear -- the great hunter was almost crying, least I imagined he was, while describing how he made the decision to shoot, a very clinical, "If the bear moves towards me into that clearing where I can get a clean shot then I shot him." So then I imagine all the wildlife restoration folk told the guy the "long story", about the time he got the radio beacon touting bear hauled out of his PU and into the taxidermist's shop -- if the story and his infamous anti-PETA appearance on PBS did not drive him to drink I don't know what would. ][<en (Please note that no obscenities were used in the creation of this comment.) --part1_165.1a6272c1.2b682a3b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Historic sites, for example are being "Devolutionized" with bureaucrats saying with big smiles at public meetings that the whole point of investing millions of tax dollars into restoration and preservation of the places for decades has always been with the idea of giving them up and letting them rot one day. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Cuyler,<BR> <BR> This reminds me of a black bear restoration program in Vermont I saw on TV and how this guy raised three cubs, they were so cute, and then when they were not so cute he let them go into the wild, with radio beacon collars and all worried they would not get on too well in NATURE, and then they showed another guy, what looked like a poor sap in hunting gear that could have been Sharphooter's plumber, that shot the male bear -- the great hunter was almost crying, least I imagined he was, while describing how he made the decision to shoot, a very clinical, "If the bear moves towards me into that clearing where I can get a clean shot then I shot him." So then I imagine all the wildlife restoration folk told the guy the "long story", about the time he got the radio beacon touting bear hauled out of his PU and into the taxidermist's shop -- if the story and his infamous anti-PETA appearance on PBS did not drive him to drink I don't know what would.<BR> <BR> ][<en (Please note that no obscenities were used in the creation of this comment.)</FONT></HTML> --part1_165.1a6272c1.2b682a3b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:47:22 EST Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_18e.1593b856.2b682a3a_boundary" --part1_18e.1593b856.2b682a3a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I let 'er rip with a few while the teeny boppers sat there with their eyes popping out. Ruth, We LOVE you! Can't wait for your series of BP children's stories... ][<en --part1_18e.1593b856.2b682a3a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">So I let 'er rip with a few while the teeny boppers sat there with their eyes popping out.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ruth,<BR> <BR> We LOVE you!<BR> <BR> Can't wait for your series of BP children's stories...<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_18e.1593b856.2b682a3a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:47:20 EST Reply-To: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The fundamentally unclean listserv <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: BP Rules on Obscenity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_111.1f4ab703.2b682a38_boundary" --part1_111.1f4ab703.2b682a38_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "So shall we cast a vote?" BP has RULES... and has always had rules... concerning the use of obscene language... Rule #5 Blatant obscenity is discouraged, the expectation is that you will make an effort to be creative. Please take note of the requirement for "creative" use of vulgar words. It is through the creative spirit that foul and disgusting words transend themselves into art. Let us not speak foul in folly, but speak in earnest and with a measured cadence to elicit smiles and trembles, before earning ourselves disgust and the weighted acrimony of lurkers. Thanks, Shaman --part1_111.1f4ab703.2b682a38_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">"So shall we cast a vote?"</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> BP has RULES... and has always had rules... concerning the use of obscene language... Rule #5 Blatant obscenity is discouraged, the expectation is that you will make an effort to be creative.<BR> <BR> Please take note of the requirement for "creative" use of vulgar words. It is through the creative spirit that foul and disgusting words transend themselves into art. Let us not speak foul in folly, but speak in earnest and with a measured cadence to elicit smiles and trembles, before earning ourselves disgust and the weighted acrimony of lurkers.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> Shaman</FONT></HTML> --part1_111.1f4ab703.2b682a38_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:03:22 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: A response to ]<en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------AF72C9CF51B724E6FE919923" --------------AF72C9CF51B724E6FE919923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ]<en: As I was reading your latest email related to keeping it clean, another email arrived. The timing was perfect and it was too good to not pass on to the BP family. I will not provide the complete message, just the punch line ... which is ....... [Image] How is that for basic humor. JBB --------------AF72C9CF51B724E6FE919923 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------307FB0FF9B495737E133F875" --------------307FB0FF9B495737E133F875 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <font color="#000099">]<en:</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">As I was reading your latest email related to keeping it clean, another email arrived. The timing was perfect and it was too good to not pass on to the BP family.</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">I will not provide the complete message, just the punch line ... which is ....... </font><img SRC="cid:part1.3E36E20A.435FFF43@PRGinc.com" height=22 width=25><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">How is that for basic humor.</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">JBB</font></html> --------------307FB0FF9B495737E133F875 Content-Type: image/gif Content-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\nsmailA6.gif" R0lGODlhGQAWAKIFAPyXl+V6ev+7u0B4twAAAP///wAAAAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEA AAAh+QQJMgAFACwAAAAAGQAWAAADR1i63P4wykmrbSTnu/L432YRYBlWpGkSVKqCrOS+cKTR sIgJ/LzyghiDAPSViL0H0ghLQjzHlfC5WqGitVFqO9VqOOCw+JIAACH5BAkKAAUALAAAAAAZ ABYAAANNWLrc/jDKSattJOe7svjfZhFgGVZkqKUCQZHZIMueK2lzTosQof+0CA440zxYPiLS gSQOlsyQM2U7Jos6njB3fV5izx1HsaqOz+g0JAEAIfkECQoABQAsAAAAABkAFgAAA01Yutz+ MMpJq20k57uy+N9mEWAZVqRpElQquPDkhsH8SrPmgWyUZoNgcNeDaITIoegBSw55Rp5zEIu+ pj8ZAbkVLrVDJUehK47P6DQkAQAh+QQJZAAFACwAAAAAGQAWAAADTFi63P4wykmrbSTnu7L4 32YRYBlWpGkSVCq48OSGwfxK9quyUe7jux1O8wEQACENMCQwImM90NFplMqSGs+tRRh4vwPR KCvmmM/oSQIAIfkEBQoABQAsAAAAABkAFgAAA01Yutz+MMpJq20k57uy+N9mEWAZVqRpElQq uPDkhsH8SrPmgWyUZoNgcNeDaITIoegBSw55Rp5zEIu+pj8ZAbkVLrVDJUehK47P6DQkAQA7 --------------307FB0FF9B495737E133F875-- --------------AF72C9CF51B724E6FE919923-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:03:39 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: A response to ]<en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------699C13E728B7DE0F742F8429" --------------699C13E728B7DE0F742F8429 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ]<en: As I was reading your latest email related to keeping it clean, another email arrived. The timing was perfect and it was too good to not pass on to the BP family. I will not provide the complete message, just the punch line ... which is ....... [Image] How is that for basic humor. JBB --------------699C13E728B7DE0F742F8429 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------E698BE2356ECB65110FA6358" --------------E698BE2356ECB65110FA6358 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <font color="#000099">]<en:</font> <p><font color="#000099">As I was reading your latest email related to keeping it clean, another email arrived. The timing was perfect and it was too good to not pass on to the BP family.</font> <p><font color="#000099">I will not provide the complete message, just the punch line ... which is ....... </font><img SRC="cid:part1.3E36E21B.A3DC97AE@PRGinc.com" height=22 width=25> <p><font color="#000099">How is that for basic humor.</font> <p><font color="#000099">JBB</font></html> --------------E698BE2356ECB65110FA6358 Content-Type: image/gif Content-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\nsmailH7.gif" R0lGODlhGQAWAKIFAPyXl+V6ev+7u0B4twAAAP///wAAAAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEA AAAh+QQJMgAFACwAAAAAGQAWAAADR1i63P4wykmrbSTnu/L432YRYBlWpGkSVKqCrOS+cKTR sIgJ/LzyghiDAPSViL0H0ghLQjzHlfC5WqGitVFqO9VqOOCw+JIAACH5BAkKAAUALAAAAAAZ ABYAAANNWLrc/jDKSattJOe7svjfZhFgGVZkqKUCQZHZIMueK2lzTosQof+0CA440zxYPiLS gSQOlsyQM2U7Jos6njB3fV5izx1HsaqOz+g0JAEAIfkECQoABQAsAAAAABkAFgAAA01Yutz+ MMpJq20k57uy+N9mEWAZVqRpElQquPDkhsH8SrPmgWyUZoNgcNeDaITIoegBSw55Rp5zEIu+ pj8ZAbkVLrVDJUehK47P6DQkAQAh+QQJZAAFACwAAAAAGQAWAAADTFi63P4wykmrbSTnu7L4 32YRYBlWpGkSVCq48OSGwfxK9quyUe7jux1O8wEQACENMCQwImM90NFplMqSGs+tRRh4vwPR KCvmmM/oSQIAIfkEBQoABQAsAAAAABkAFgAAA01Yutz+MMpJq20k57uy+N9mEWAZVqRpElQq uPDkhsH8SrPmgWyUZoNgcNeDaITIoegBSw55Rp5zEIu+pj8ZAbkVLrVDJUehK47P6DQkAQA7 --------------E698BE2356ECB65110FA6358-- --------------699C13E728B7DE0F742F8429-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:06:21 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan 2003(#2003-27) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_OqCMckp9WptXtgyZZ5sLkw)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_OqCMckp9WptXtgyZZ5sLkw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT DD - Is inre andthing like inri? (rhetorical question ;-)) - Pam Please keep us advised inre anti-spam filter.... DD --Boundary_(ID_OqCMckp9WptXtgyZZ5sLkw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>DD -</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Is inre andthing like inri? (rhetorical question ;-))</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>Please keep us advised inre anti-spam filter.... <BR> <P>DD </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_OqCMckp9WptXtgyZZ5sLkw)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:17:17 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A response to ]<en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_125.1d7173cd.2b683f4d_boundary" --part1_125.1d7173cd.2b683f4d_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="125.1d7173cd_alt_bound" --125.1d7173cd_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/28/03 3:14:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > ....... How is that for basic humor. > Dear JBB: I have forwarded on your message to: FROM THE DESK OF GODWIN EMEKA. ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD., LAGOS-NIGERIA. DEAR SIR, STRICTLY A PRIVATE BUSINESS PROPOSAL .I AM GODWIN EMEKA, THE MANAGER, BILL AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD. ..... --125.1d7173cd_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/28/03 3:14:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000099" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">....... <IMG SRC="cid:X.MA1.1043785037@aol.com" ID="MA1.1043785037" WIDTH="25" HEIGHT="22" BORDER="0"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000099" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">How is that for basic humor.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Dear JBB: I have forwarded on your message to: <BR> <BR>FROM THE DESK OF GODWIN EMEKA. <BR>ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD., <BR>LAGOS-NIGERIA. <BR> <BR>DEAR SIR, <BR> <BR>STRICTLY A PRIVATE BUSINESS PROPOSAL .I AM GODWIN EMEKA, THE MANAGER, BILL AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD. ..... <BR></FONT> </HTML> --125.1d7173cd_alt_bound-- --part1_125.1d7173cd.2b683f4d_boundary Content-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: image/gif; name="arespons.gif" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 R0lGODlhGQAWAKIFAPyXl+V6ev+7u0B4twAAAP///wAAAAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEA AAAh+QQJMgAFACwAAAAAGQAWAAADR1i63P4wykmrbSTnu/L432YRYBlWpGkSVKqCrOS+cKTR sIgJ/LzyghiDAPSViL0H0ghLQjzHlfC5WqGitVFqO9VqOOCw+JIAACH5BAkKAAUALAAAAAAZ ABYAAANNWLrc/jDKSattJOe7svjfZhFgGVZkqKUCQZHZIMueK2lzTosQof+0CA440zxYPiLS gSQOlsyQM2U7Jos6njB3fV5izx1HsaqOz+g0JAEAIfkECQoABQAsAAAAABkAFgAAA01Yutz+ MMpJq20k57uy+N9mEWAZVqRpElQquPDkhsH8SrPmgWyUZoNgcNeDaITIoegBSw55Rp5zEIu+ pj8ZAbkVLrVDJUehK47P6DQkAQAh+QQJZAAFACwAAAAAGQAWAAADTFi63P4wykmrbSTnu7L4 32YRYBlWpGkSVCq48OSGwfxK9quyUe7jux1O8wEQACENMCQwImM90NFplMqSGs+tRRh4vwPR KCvmmM/oSQIAIfkEBQoABQAsAAAAABkAFgAAA01Yutz+MMpJq20k57uy+N9mEWAZVqRpElQq uPDkhsH8SrPmgWyUZoNgcNeDaITIoegBSw55Rp5zEIu+pj8ZAbkVLrVDJUehK47P6DQkAQA7 --part1_125.1d7173cd.2b683f4d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:42:07 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A response to ]<en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0024F2F3619A7021F97F869B" --------------0024F2F3619A7021F97F869B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I knew this was going to cause me trouble. So .. back to my 'Lurkers Corner', HEY .... who took my seat. ==================== Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/28/03 3:14:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > >> ....... [Image] How is that for basic humor. > > > Dear JBB: I have forwarded on your message to: > > FROM THE DESK OF GODWIN EMEKA. > ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD., > LAGOS-NIGERIA. > > DEAR SIR, > > STRICTLY A PRIVATE BUSINESS PROPOSAL .I AM GODWIN EMEKA, THE MANAGER, > BILL AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE ZENITH > INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD. ..... --------------0024F2F3619A7021F97F869B Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------259278DE254243BA270F2340" --------------259278DE254243BA270F2340 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <font color="#000099">I knew this was going to cause me trouble.</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">So .. back to my 'Lurkers Corner', HEY .... who took my seat.</font><font color="#000099"></font> <p><font color="#000099">====================</font> <p>Met History wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=-1>In a message dated 1/28/03 3:14:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font> <br> <blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="Arial"><font color="#000099"><font size=-1>....... <img SRC="cid:part1.3E36EB1F.3043E474@PRGinc.com" BORDER=0 ID="MA1.1043785037" height=22 width=25></font></font><font size=+0><font color="#000000"> </font><font color="#000099">How is that for basic humor.</font></font></font></blockquote> <p><br><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Dear JBB: I have forwarded on your message to:</font></font></font> <p><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>FROM THE DESK OF GODWIN EMEKA.</font></font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD.,</font></font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>LAGOS-NIGERIA.</font></font></font> <p><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>DEAR SIR,</font></font></font> <p><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>STRICTLY A PRIVATE BUSINESS PROPOSAL .I AM GODWIN EMEKA, THE MANAGER, BILL AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD. .....</font></font></font></blockquote> </html> --------------259278DE254243BA270F2340 Content-Type: image/gif Content-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="arespons.gif" R0lGODlhGQAWAKIFAPyXl+V6ev+7u0B4twAAAP///wAAAAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEA AAAh+QQJMgAFACwAAAAAGQAWAAADR1i63P4wykmrbSTnu/L432YRYBlWpGkSVKqCrOS+cKTR sIgJ/LzyghiDAPSViL0H0ghLQjzHlfC5WqGitVFqO9VqOOCw+JIAACH5BAkKAAUALAAAAAAZ ABYAAANNWLrc/jDKSattJOe7svjfZhFgGVZkqKUCQZHZIMueK2lzTosQof+0CA440zxYPiLS gSQOlsyQM2U7Jos6njB3fV5izx1HsaqOz+g0JAEAIfkECQoABQAsAAAAABkAFgAAA01Yutz+ MMpJq20k57uy+N9mEWAZVqRpElQquPDkhsH8SrPmgWyUZoNgcNeDaITIoegBSw55Rp5zEIu+ pj8ZAbkVLrVDJUehK47P6DQkAQAh+QQJZAAFACwAAAAAGQAWAAADTFi63P4wykmrbSTnu7L4 32YRYBlWpGkSVCq48OSGwfxK9quyUe7jux1O8wEQACENMCQwImM90NFplMqSGs+tRRh4vwPR KCvmmM/oSQIAIfkEBQoABQAsAAAAABkAFgAAA01Yutz+MMpJq20k57uy+N9mEWAZVqRpElQq uPDkhsH8SrPmgWyUZoNgcNeDaITIoegBSw55Rp5zEIu+pj8ZAbkVLrVDJUehK47P6DQkAQA7 --------------259278DE254243BA270F2340-- --------------0024F2F3619A7021F97F869B-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:57:17 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A response to ]<en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12a.214ff2d9.2b6856bd_boundary" --part1_12a.214ff2d9.2b6856bd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How is that for basic humor. Bryan: Excellent! Reminds me of someone inspecting the sidewalk for BBgum. ][< en --part1_12a.214ff2d9.2b6856bd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#000099" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">How is that for basic humor.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Bryan: Excellent! Reminds me of someone inspecting the sidewalk for BBgum. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_12a.214ff2d9.2b6856bd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:06:59 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A response to ]<en MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JrK3vUcJXxo3M2ZY7Wnddg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_JrK3vUcJXxo3M2ZY7Wnddg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Is that for restoring antique BBGum? Must be a once in a leaftime occurrence. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Follett To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: Re: A response to ]<en How is that for basic humor. Bryan: Excellent! Reminds me of someone inspecting the sidewalk for BBgum. ][<en --Boundary_(ID_JrK3vUcJXxo3M2ZY7Wnddg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Is that for restoring antique BBGum? Must be a once in a leaftime occurrence.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ken Follett</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:57 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A response to ]<en</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000099 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">How is that for basic humor.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Bryan: Excellent! Reminds me of someone inspecting the sidewalk for BBgum. ][<en</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_JrK3vUcJXxo3M2ZY7Wnddg)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:29:03 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_195.14b49507.2b685e2f_boundary" --part1_195.14b49507.2b685e2f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/28/2003 1:29:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >Gotta go puke now. > > HTH. > Is HTH like Dillyfag or whatever that acronym was last week? I feel so sheltered. Ralph --part1_195.14b49507.2b685e2f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/28/2003 1:29:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">>Gotta go puke now.<BR> <BR> HTH.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Is HTH like Dillyfag or whatever that acronym was last week? I feel so sheltered.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_195.14b49507.2b685e2f_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:00:52 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralph Walter > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:29 PM >=20 >=20 > Is HTH like Dillyfag or whatever that acronym was last week? > I feel so sheltered. Dear Mr. Al Thiemer: Do you need to turn up your hearing aid more? I know that you don't like to appear vain, so you tend to just nod your head as though you understood, even when that is not the case. This from the BP Archives, not more than 90 days ago, during our discussion of your 20th Anniversary Mac: Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:38:52 EST Reply-To: maybe this could fall apart after the checks clear <BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS> Sender: maybe this could fall apart after the checks clear <BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Interim rule #4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; In a message dated 10/30/2002 9:50:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > HTH, What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club equivalent to the Pinhead Salute. Ralph --------------- To which I replied: > What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club > equivalent to the Pinhead Salute. Hope this helps you figure it out. Again. __________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Oh joy! Rapture! Now Raleigh Historic I have a brain!" Districts Commission - Scarecrow [log in to unmask] =20 919/890-3678 =20 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:14:33 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Lisa Sasser <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII <HTML><HEAD> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2712.300" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Dear Mr. James,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>On behalf of any ladies from the <STRONG>National Park Service</STRONG>,<STRONG> </STRONG>whose delicate sensibilities you may have felt compelled by your gentlemanly instincts to protect from "colorful language", we have indeed been exposed the epostulatory capabilites of carpenters from Keedsyville and sundry other points, and emerged unbesmirched by the experience. With our virtue intact, we have indeed assimilated said "colorful language" in myriad mother tongues.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Don't worry about it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Lisa</FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></DIV></FONT> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In all due respect to Ruth and the lady from the National Parks Dept., I would simply say that if we are to be monitored for colorful language, I would just soon remove myself from the list (not that anyone would probably care.) So shall we cast a vote? <BR><BR>MJ</FONT> </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:40:32 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C2C726.A5BFF2A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C2C726.A5BFF2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Our BC Provincial Parks system today announced a solution to the = language situation. Along with putting the Provincial Parks (like State = Parks) up for bid by private enterprise (just like the Heritage Branch = is now doing with historic sites), they also eliminated all Parks = Interpretation Programs. There will now be no official language at all = in the Parks. cp in silent bc ladies from the National Park Service, whose delicate sensibilities = you may have felt compelled by your gentlemanly instincts to protect = from "colorful language", ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C2C726.A5BFF2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Our BC Provincial Parks = system today=20 announced a solution to the language situation. Along=20 with putting the Provincial Parks (like State Parks) up = for bid=20 by private enterprise (just like the Heritage Branch is now doing = with=20 historic sites), they also eliminated all Parks Interpretation=20 Programs. There will now be no official language at = all in=20 the Parks.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp in silent bc</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" = size=3D2> ladies=20 from the <STRONG>National Park Service</STRONG>,<STRONG> = </STRONG>whose=20 delicate sensibilities you may have felt compelled by your gentlemanly = instincts to protect from "colorful language",=20 </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C2C726.A5BFF2A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:17:32 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wpmCSTILHsJpM9S41ctWcA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_wpmCSTILHsJpM9S41ctWcA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Bruce, you lurker. You're right, my brain was out to lunch. I guess I was thinking of Oklahoma! - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Marcham To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:13 PM Subject: RE: "It's cold again...but hot online." I think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc. making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very bad problem. -----Original Message----- From: Pam Stevenson [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in August. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruth Barton To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:24 PM Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." Mark, Never fear on my account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better known by the highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the proper season. --Boundary_(ID_wpmCSTILHsJpM9S41ctWcA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Bruce, you lurker. You're right, my brain was out to lunch. I guess I was thinking of Oklahoma!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Bruce Marcham</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:13 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: "It's cold again...but hot online."</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=570405723-28012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc. making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very bad problem.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pam Stevenson [<A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</A>]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's cold again...but hot online."<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in August.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ruth Barton</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 27, 2003 10:24 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's cold again...but hot online."</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>Mark, Never fear on my account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better<BR>known by the highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the<BR>proper season.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_wpmCSTILHsJpM9S41ctWcA)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:19:32 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_VhT174eizeU2rfQls4F9dQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_VhT174eizeU2rfQls4F9dQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's case. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Becker, Dan To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralph Walter > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:29 PM > > > Is HTH like Dillyfag or whatever that acronym was last week? > I feel so sheltered. Dear Mr. Al Thiemer: Do you need to turn up your hearing aid more? I know that you don't like to appear vain, so you tend to just nod your head as though you understood, even when that is not the case. This from the BP Archives, not more than 90 days ago, during our discussion of your 20th Anniversary Mac: Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:38:52 EST Reply-To: maybe this could fall apart after the checks clear <BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS> Sender: maybe this could fall apart after the checks clear <BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Interim rule #4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; In a message dated 10/30/2002 9:50:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > HTH, What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club equivalent to the Pinhead Salute. Ralph --------------- To which I replied: > What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club > equivalent to the Pinhead Salute. Hope this helps you figure it out. Again. __________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Oh joy! Rapture! Now Raleigh Historic I have a brain!" Districts Commission - Scarecrow [log in to unmask] 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> --Boundary_(ID_VhT174eizeU2rfQls4F9dQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's case.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Becker, Dan</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:00 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Ralph Walter<BR>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:29 PM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Is HTH like Dillyfag or whatever that acronym was last week?<BR>> I feel so sheltered.<BR><BR>Dear Mr. Al Thiemer:<BR><BR>Do you need to turn up your hearing aid more? I know that you don't like<BR>to appear vain, so you tend to just nod your head as though you<BR>understood, even when that is not the case. This from the BP Archives,<BR>not more than 90 days ago, during our discussion of your 20th<BR>Anniversary Mac:<BR><BR>Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:38:52 EST<BR>Reply-To: maybe this could fall apart after the checks clear<BR> <BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS><BR>Sender: maybe this could fall apart after the checks clear<BR> <BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS><BR>From: Ralph Walter <<A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>><BR>Subject: Re: Interim rule #4<BR><BR><BR><BR>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<BR><BR><BR>In a message dated 10/30/2002 9:50:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,<BR><A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR>> HTH,<BR><BR>What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club equivalent to the<BR>Pinhead Salute.<BR><BR>Ralph<BR><BR>---------------<BR><BR>To which I replied:<BR><BR>> What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club<BR>> equivalent to the Pinhead Salute.<BR><BR>Hope this helps you figure it out.<BR><BR>Again.<BR><BR>__________________________________________________<BR>Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Oh joy! Rapture! Now<BR>Raleigh Historic I have a brain!"<BR>Districts Commission - Scarecrow<BR><A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> <BR>919/890-3678<BR><BR> <BR><BR>--<BR>To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the<BR>uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:<BR><<A href="http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html">http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html</A>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_VhT174eizeU2rfQls4F9dQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:37:58 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: deleted X-cc: Gordon Bingaman <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2C79B.A2D1ED08" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C79B.A2D1ED08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something changed on your end? We have a new spam filter, but I've asked about whether this blocks BP specifically, or just the digest mode. I get the notice, but the contents are deleted. QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA 219 1/2 N. Main Street Ann Arbor, MI 48104 [log in to unmask] www.quinnevans.com v 734.663.5888 f 734.663.5044 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C79B.A2D1ED08 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 6.0.6249.1"> <TITLE>deleted</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Why would my email server no longer = accept BP email? Is there something changed on your end? We = have a new spam filter, but I've asked about whether this blocks BP = specifically, or just the digest mode. I get the notice, but the = contents are deleted.</FONT></P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS</FONT> </P> <P><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA</FONT></B> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">219 1/2 N. Main Street</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ann Arbor, MI 48104</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">[log in to unmask]</FONT> <BR><A HREF=3D"file://www.quinnevans.com"><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">www.quinnevans.com</FONT></U></A> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">v 734.663.5888</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">f 734.663.5044</FONT> </P> <BR> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C79B.A2D1ED08-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:07:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: deleted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d6.1250f83.2b693a0d_boundary" --part1_1d6.1250f83.2b693a0d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/03 8:40:33 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: > Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? I get the notice, but > the contents are deleted. Hmmm. Might be a good idea. Sign me, There Are No Bad Words, Only Evil Minds --part1_1d6.1250f83.2b693a0d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/03 8:40:33 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? I get the notice, but the contents are deleted.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"> <BR>Hmmm. Might be a good idea. Sign me, There Are No Bad Words, Only Evil Minds</FONT></HTML> --part1_1d6.1250f83.2b693a0d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:10:32 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: deleted MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pEzYTJgOPjSqIDQCs2Q7tw)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_pEzYTJgOPjSqIDQCs2Q7tw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT deletedIlene - We've had something recently on one of our home PCs, which is schizophrenic and has multiple email ids on it, whereby we retrieve the mail, but the contents are missing. If we shut down the email and restart it (Outlook Express), it seems then to show the contents just fine. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ilene R. Tyler To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: deleted Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something changed on your end? We have a new spam filter, but I've asked about whether this blocks BP specifically, or just the digest mode. I get the notice, but the contents are deleted. QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA 219 1/2 N. Main Street Ann Arbor, MI 48104 [log in to unmask] www.quinnevans.com v 734.663.5888 f 734.663.5044 --Boundary_(ID_pEzYTJgOPjSqIDQCs2Q7tw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>deleted</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Ilene -</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>We've had something recently on one of our home PCs, which is schizophrenic and has multiple email ids on it, whereby we retrieve the mail, but the contents are missing. If we shut down the email and restart it (Outlook Express), it seems then to show the contents just fine.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ilene R. Tyler</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:37 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> deleted</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something changed on your end? We have a new spam filter, but I've asked about whether this blocks BP specifically, or just the digest mode. I get the notice, but the contents are deleted.</FONT></P><BR> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS</FONT> </P> <P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA</FONT></B> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>219 1/2 N. Main Street</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ann Arbor, MI 48104</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A></FONT> <BR><A href="file://www.quinnevans.com"><U><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>www.quinnevans.com</FONT></U></A> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>v 734.663.5888</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>f 734.663.5044</FONT> </P><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_pEzYTJgOPjSqIDQCs2Q7tw)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:47:23 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: deleted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------296EA862252703D9A425501E" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------296EA862252703D9A425501E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B0792FAD7AB1476BC0FDB536" --------------B0792FAD7AB1476BC0FDB536 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Ilene R. Tyler" wrote: > Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there > something changed on your end? We have a new spam filter, Artificial intelligence, or at least artificial good taste --------------B0792FAD7AB1476BC0FDB536 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <p>"Ilene R. Tyler" wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something changed on your end? We have a new spam filter,</font></font></blockquote> Artificial intelligence, or at least artificial good taste</html> --------------B0792FAD7AB1476BC0FDB536-- --------------296EA862252703D9A425501E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------296EA862252703D9A425501E-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:01:47 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Progress of the Ladies Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--1026685472 --Apple-Mail-6--1026685472 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I have read of, and been told tales of, the contributions made by various Ladies to the beginnings of preservation. So much of the credit in the creation myths of preservation are heaped upon the several male individuals enthroned at certain institutions of learning, collecting and amusement. But I rise to acknowledge the contribution made by the Ladies past and present. I would not refuse them the credit, nor the mud, the blood, the beer, nor the colorful technical language. (Not that I'm capable of watching my language that carefully.) What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR and the current Ladies of the NPS! It feels alright. I don't think my head will explode. Back to work. Let's make history! (I know Bryan...but I love to say it!) -jc --Apple-Mail-6--1026685472 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0644; name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Callan\,AIA;John;;;=0D FN:John Callan\,AIA=0D ORG:John Callan\,Architect\,Inc.;=0D TITLE:Principal Architect=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:[log in to unmask] EMAIL;type=3DWORK:[log in to unmask] TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL:(651) 486-7579=0D TEL;type=3DFAX:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:(612) 817-1176=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;784 Deerwood Circle;Lino = Lakes;MN;55014-5433;United States=0D NOTE:Historic Preservation and Museum Services\nSusan=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:johncallanaia=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK:johncallanaia1=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-6--1026685472-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:35:40 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: deleted & SPAM X-cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a3.38ae11fa.2b694ecc_boundary" --part1_a3.38ae11fa.2b694ecc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 5:40:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something > changed on your end? We have a new spam filter, but I've asked about > whether this blocks BP specifically, or just the digest mode. I get the > notice, but the contents are deleted. Ilene, Nothing has changed on the BP end. PC Magazine's latest issue describes how software anti-spam programs filter and it may be that the message headers for BP appear to the software too similar to headers for spam. There seems to be a problem finding a good balance between automatic sifting of spam and blocking of friendly mail. The articles in PC Mag, regardless of our proud Mac users, gives some good tips on how to diminish spam, either by online habits or through software. I also enjoyed the article on how ADSL vs. Cable modems connect to the Internet backbone. ][<en --part1_a3.38ae11fa.2b694ecc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 5:40:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something changed on your end? We have a new spam filter, but I've asked about whether this blocks BP specifically, or just the digest mode. I get the notice, but the contents are deleted.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ilene,<BR> <BR> Nothing has changed on the BP end.<BR> <BR> PC Magazine's latest issue describes how software anti-spam programs filter and it may be that the message headers for BP appear to the software too similar to headers for spam. There seems to be a problem finding a good balance between automatic sifting of spam and blocking of friendly mail. The articles in PC Mag, regardless of our proud Mac users, gives some good tips on how to diminish spam, either by online habits or through software. I also enjoyed the article on how ADSL vs. Cable modems connect to the Internet backbone.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_a3.38ae11fa.2b694ecc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:43:23 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c3.2f9155de.2b69509b_boundary" --part1_c3.2f9155de.2b69509b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/03 10:01:58 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: <<> What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR and > the current Ladies of the NPS!>> DARNPS? And see interesting tale of Jane Teller Robinson, below in mid-story... The New York Times January 25, 1998, Sunday, Late Edition - Final HEADLINE: Streetscapes/421 East 61st Street; From House Museum to Historic 19th-Century Hotel By CHRISTOPHER GRAY (copyright assigned to Half-Pint) IT wasn't built as a house, so why call it a house museum? That's what the Colonial Dames of America decided 10 years ago when they began to reposition the 1799 Abigail Adams Smith Museum, at 421 East 61st Street, as a historic hotel. Now they are near the end of a $1.5 million capital campaign, and the results offer an interesting twist on the usual formula. What began as a barn, became a hotel and only later a country house is so old it's off-angle from the city street plan. It was planned in 1795 as the barn for Mount Vernon, the country estate of Col. William S. Smith and his wife, Abigail. Smith was an aide to George Washington; his wife was the daughter of John Adams, the second President of the United States. They planned a main house near what is now 61st Street and First Avenue but lost the entire property before completion in 1796; they probably never spent a night there. In 1798 William T. Robinson, a merchant, purchased the unfinished buildings, and it must have been he who had the date 1799 laid in bricks among the ragged stone of the rear facade of the museum. Robinson advertised the estate for sale in The New York Evening Post on Feb. 28, 1806, as a 23-acre "country seat . . . near the 5 mile stone." Robinson's ad described the barn as "a very ornamental building, and well arranged for convenience and use," with stables for six horses, a coach room, shelter for cattle, pigeon houses and a loft for 30 tons of hay. This "beautiful situation" included an orchard with apple, pear, plum, cherry, apricot and nectarine trees, and two wharves at the foot of 61st Street. But perhaps the private estate idea was too ambitious, because by 1808 the main house was operating as the "Mount Vernon Hotel" with a one-mile race track. But the main house burned in 1826 and Joseph Hart purchased the surviving barn and renovated it as an inn, the new Mount Vernon Hotel. In 1829 James Stuart, Earl [ERROR: Duke] of Lenox, visited the hotel, a trip he described in "Three Years in North America," published in 1833. He praised "the view of the river and of the gay sailing craft constantly passing, and tossed about by the eddies in every direction." He reported that a stage went down to the settled part of the city two or three times a day and "during the summer months the great mass of the people of New York leave the town in carriages, gigs or on horseback, for an hour or two before sunset . . . toward the beautiful parts of the island including the East River shore." "Near as we are to New York," he wrote in surprise, "and within 300 yards of the high road, there is neither a shutter nor a bar to a window in the house. Clothes are laid out to bleach all night without the slightest fear of their being carried off." In 1833 Jeremiah Towle bought the hotel and made it into a country house. It must have been Towle who put in the high-style trim on the interior -- the fluted columns and rosettes, and some astoundingly rich Greek Revival mantles, which are no longer in the building. Towle's two daughters, Isabella and Mary, continued to live in the house past 1900, by which time the area had been taken over by industry and tenements. IN 1903 a newspaper reporter visited the house and noted that "the beautiful garden . . . has gone forever and the house itself will probably soon meet the same fate." The Towles sold two years later and the Standard Gas Light Company took possession. Census records indicate they housed their own workers in the building. By 1912 Standard Gas had dwarfed the building with three giant gasholders to the east and north, creating just the kind of picturesque contrast that the genteel settlers of Sutton Place appreciated when that colony was begun in 1919. In that year Jane Teller Robinson took over the house, apparently on a lease from the company. She renovated the place as "Jane Teller's Mansion" and began a program of spinning and weaving to enable poor people to manufacture their own clothing. In 1921 Robinson, who organized the "Society for the Revival of Household Industries and Domestic Arts," relayed something of her missionary zeal to The New York Times. She wanted to recapture an earlier time of self sufficiency, noting that "up to 1830 nearly every house had its own flax wheel and wool wheel and 90 percent of all goods was made at home." Brochures from her organization said that they were selling regularly to Abercrombie & Fitch, and that they custom-made clothes from the sheep's wool of their clients. Just before she took over the house the Greek Revival mantles were removed by Lewis B. Gautrey [ERROR: Gawtry], a banker, to his house at 58 East 66th Street, where they remain. At some point during her occupancy The New York Tribune reported that plumbers had found a complete skeleton under the floorboards on the second floor, but no further explanation was published. Apparently Standard Gas left the house intact because it was on a high shelf of rock. In 1924 the company sold the house to the Colonial Dames of America, a patriotic and genealogical organization, for use as its headquarters. By that time the building was being described as the house of the Smiths, apparently confusing the barn they didn't finish with the residence they didn't finish. Later the organization opened 421 East 61st Street as a house museum filled with antique furniture, focusing on its tenuous connection to the Smiths and the early Republic. According to Barbara Hayward, director of the museum, it was accredited in 1983 by the American Association of Museums, but with the advice that the basic tenet needed restudy. In 1988 the Colonial Dames of America decided to recast the building as an early 19th-century hotel. "There are many house museums but we're the only site that depicts hotel life," Mrs. Hayward said. Downstairs the main hall is portrayed as the dining room, with an intact kitchen off to one side, and a bar room and men's card room off to the other side. On the second floor, the central area is set up as a ballroom, with a ladies' parlor off to one side, and a hotel bedroom on the other. Much of the furniture is in the Second Empire style, to the period of the 1820's of the Mount Vernon Hotel. I N the last few years the building has got new exterior woodwork, roofing, shutters and windows, and Mrs. Hayward expects the final stages of the renovation -- pointing and stonework on the facade -- to begin this spring. The 8,500 visitors every year come to see the interiors, the early kitchen equipment, and for events like the "Washington's Birthday Ball" at 2 P.M. on Feb. 22, with the Steuben House Dancers demonstrating (and teaching) period dances like Fishers' Hornpipe, Haste to the Wedding, Black Joke and Hole in Wall. Tickets for the event, at $5 for adults and $3 for children under 12 and members, must be reserved, at (212) 838-6878. The museum is open Tuesdays through Sundays, 11 A.M. to 4 P.M. Admission is $3 for adults, $2 for students and the elderly, free for members and children under 12. It is a curious building -- barn, hotel, residence, museum -- emblematic of a search by such historic sites everywhere to venture beyond the gentry worship of their origins earlier in this century. --part1_c3.2f9155de.2b69509b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/03 10:01:58 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR><<</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR and the current Ladies of the NPS!>></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"> <BR>DARNPS? And see interesting tale of Jane Teller Robinson, below in mid-story... <BR> <BR>The New York Times January 25, 1998, Sunday, Late Edition - Final <BR> <BR>HEADLINE: Streetscapes/421 East 61st Street; From House Museum to Historic 19th-Century Hotel <BR> <BR>By CHRISTOPHER GRAY (copyright assigned to Half-Pint) <BR> <BR> IT wasn't built as a house, so why call it a house museum? That's what the <BR>Colonial Dames of America decided 10 years ago when they began to reposition the <BR>1799 Abigail Adams Smith Museum, at 421 East 61st Street, as a historic hotel. <BR>Now they are near the end of a $1.5 million capital campaign, and the results <BR>offer an interesting twist on the usual formula. <BR> <BR> What began as a barn, became a hotel and only later a country house is so old <BR>it's off-angle from the city street plan. It was planned in 1795 as the barn for <BR>Mount Vernon, the country estate of Col. William S. Smith and his wife, Abigail. <BR>Smith was an aide to George Washington; his wife was the daughter of John Adams, <BR>the second President of the United States. They planned a main house near what <BR>is now 61st Street and First Avenue but lost the entire property before <BR>completion in 1796; they probably never spent a night there. <BR> <BR> In 1798 William T. Robinson, a merchant, purchased the unfinished buildings, <BR>and it must have been he who had the date 1799 laid in bricks among the ragged <BR>stone of the rear facade of the museum. <BR> <BR> Robinson advertised the estate for sale in The New York Evening Post on Feb. <BR>28, 1806, as a 23-acre "country seat . . . near the 5 mile stone." Robinson's ad <BR>described the barn as "a very ornamental building, and well arranged for <BR>convenience and use," with stables for six horses, a coach room, shelter for <BR>cattle, pigeon houses and a loft for 30 tons of hay. <BR> <BR> This "beautiful situation" included an orchard with apple, pear, plum, <BR>cherry, apricot and nectarine trees, and two wharves at the foot of 61st Street. <BR>But perhaps the private estate idea was too ambitious, because by 1808 the main <BR>house was operating as the "Mount Vernon Hotel" with a one-mile race track. But <BR>the main house burned in 1826 and Joseph Hart purchased the surviving barn and <BR>renovated it as an inn, the new Mount Vernon Hotel. <BR> <BR> In 1829 James Stuart, Earl [ERROR: Duke] of Lenox, visited the hotel, a trip he described <BR>in "Three Years in North America," published in 1833. He praised "the view of <BR>the river and of the gay sailing craft constantly passing, and tossed about by <BR>the eddies in every direction." He reported that a stage went down to the <BR>settled part of the city two or three times a day and "during the summer months <BR>the great mass of the people of New York leave the town in carriages, gigs or on <BR>horseback, for an hour or two before sunset . . . toward the beautiful parts of <BR>the island including the East River shore." <BR> <BR> "Near as we are to New York," he wrote in surprise, "and within 300 yards of <BR>the high road, there is neither a shutter nor a bar to a window in the house. <BR>Clothes are laid out to bleach all night without the slightest fear of their <BR>being carried off." <BR> <BR> In 1833 Jeremiah Towle bought the hotel and made it into a country house. It <BR>must have been Towle who put in the high-style trim on the interior -- the <BR>fluted columns and rosettes, and some astoundingly rich Greek Revival mantles, <BR>which are no longer in the building. Towle's two daughters, Isabella and Mary, <BR>continued to live in the house past 1900, by which time the area had been taken <BR>over by industry and tenements. <BR> <BR> IN 1903 a newspaper reporter visited the house and noted that "the beautiful <BR>garden . . . has gone forever and the house itself will probably soon meet the <BR>same fate." <BR> <BR> The Towles sold two years later and the Standard Gas Light Company took <BR>possession. Census records indicate they housed their own workers in the <BR>building. By 1912 Standard Gas had dwarfed the building with three giant <BR>gasholders to the east and north, creating just the kind of picturesque contrast <BR>that the genteel settlers of Sutton Place appreciated when that colony was begun <BR>in 1919. <BR> <BR> In that year Jane Teller Robinson took over the house, apparently on a lease <BR>from the company. She renovated the place as "Jane Teller's Mansion" and began a <BR>program of spinning and weaving to enable poor people to manufacture their own <BR>clothing. <BR> <BR> In 1921 Robinson, who organized the "Society for the Revival of Household <BR>Industries and Domestic Arts," relayed something of her missionary zeal to The <BR>New York Times. She wanted to recapture an earlier time of self sufficiency, <BR>noting that "up to 1830 nearly every house had its own flax wheel and wool wheel <BR>and 90 percent of all goods was made at home." Brochures from her organization <BR>said that they were selling regularly to Abercrombie & Fitch, and that they <BR>custom-made clothes from the sheep's wool of their clients. <BR> <BR> Just before she took over the house the Greek Revival mantles were removed by <BR>Lewis B. Gautrey [ERROR: Gawtry], a banker, to his house at 58 East 66th Street, where they <BR>remain. At some point during her occupancy The New York Tribune reported that <BR>plumbers had found a complete skeleton under the floorboards on the second <BR>floor, but no further explanation was published. <BR> <BR> Apparently Standard Gas left the house intact because it was on a high shelf <BR>of rock. In 1924 the company sold the house to the Colonial Dames of America, a <BR>patriotic and genealogical organization, for use as its headquarters. By that <BR>time the building was being described as the house of the Smiths, apparently <BR>confusing the barn they didn't finish with the residence they didn't finish. <BR> <BR> Later the organization opened 421 East 61st Street as a house museum filled <BR>with antique furniture, focusing on its tenuous connection to the Smiths and the <BR>early Republic. <BR> <BR> According to Barbara Hayward, director of the museum, it was accredited in <BR>1983 by the American Association of Museums, but with the advice that the basic <BR>tenet needed restudy. In 1988 the Colonial Dames of America decided to recast <BR>the building as an early 19th-century hotel. "There are many house museums but <BR>we're the only site that depicts hotel life," Mrs. Hayward said. <BR> <BR> Downstairs the main hall is portrayed as the dining room, with an intact <BR>kitchen off to one side, and a bar room and men's card room off to the other <BR>side. On the second floor, the central area is set up as a ballroom, with a <BR>ladies' parlor off to one side, and a hotel bedroom on the other. Much of the <BR>furniture is in the Second Empire style, to the period of the 1820's of the <BR>Mount Vernon Hotel. <BR> <BR> I N the last few years the building has got new exterior woodwork, <BR>roofing, shutters and windows, and Mrs. Hayward expects the final stages of the <BR>renovation -- pointing and stonework on the facade -- to begin this spring. The <BR>8,500 visitors every year come to see the interiors, the early kitchen <BR>equipment, and for events like the "Washington's Birthday Ball" at 2 P.M. on <BR>Feb. 22, with the Steuben House Dancers demonstrating (and teaching) period <BR>dances like Fishers' Hornpipe, Haste to the Wedding, Black Joke and Hole in <BR>Wall. Tickets for the event, at $5 for adults and $3 for children under 12 and <BR>members, must be reserved, at (212) 838-6878. The museum is open Tuesdays <BR>through Sundays, 11 A.M. to 4 P.M. Admission is $3 for adults, $2 for students <BR>and the elderly, free for members and children under 12. <BR> <BR> It is a curious building -- barn, hotel, residence, museum -- emblematic of a <BR>search by such historic sites everywhere to venture beyond the gentry worship of <BR>their origins earlier in this century. <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_c3.2f9155de.2b69509b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:41:45 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_10d.1ef63e10.2b695e49_boundary" --part1_10d.1ef63e10.2b695e49_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And see interesting tale of Jane Teller Robinson, below in mid-story... Sharpshooter: I remember reading this in hard copy in '98. Boy, those were the days. ][<en --part1_10d.1ef63e10.2b695e49_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">And see interesting tale of Jane Teller Robinson, below in mid-story... </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Sharpshooter: I remember reading this in hard copy in '98. Boy, those were the days. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_10d.1ef63e10.2b695e49_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:56:48 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2C7B7.69C22930" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C7B7.69C22930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yeah, somewhat the lurker. Backchannel too. -----Original Message----- From: Pam Stevenson [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:18 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." Bruce, you lurker. You're right, my brain was out to lunch. I guess I was thinking of Oklahoma! - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Marcham <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Cc: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:13 PM Subject: RE: "It's cold again...but hot online." I think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc. making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very bad problem. -----Original Message----- From: Pam Stevenson [ mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in August. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruth Barton <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:24 PM Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." Mark, Never fear on my account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better known by the highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the proper season. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C7B7.69C22930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=870124616-29012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Yeah, somewhat the lurker. Backchannel too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=870124616-29012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pam Stevenson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:18 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's cold again...but hot online."<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Bruce, you lurker. You're right, my brain was out to lunch. I guess I was thinking of Oklahoma!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px" dir = ltr> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]" [log in to unmask]>Bruce Marcham</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]" [log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]" [log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:13 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: "It's cold again...but hot online."</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=570405723-28012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc. making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very bad problem.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pam Stevenson [<A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</A>]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's cold again...but hot online."<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in August.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]" [log in to unmask]>Ruth Barton</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]" [log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 27, 2003 10:24 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's cold again...but hot online."</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>Mark, Never fear on my account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better<BR>known by the highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the<BR>proper season.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C7B7.69C22930-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:20:23 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_191.146c6df4.2b696757_boundary" --part1_191.146c6df4.2b696757_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/28/2003 6:02:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Dear Mr. Al Thiemer: > > Do you need to turn up your hearing aid more? I know that you don't like > to appear vain, so you tend to just nod your head as though you > understood, even when that is not the case. This from the BP Archives, > not more than 90 days ago, during our discussion of your 20th > Anniversary Mac: > Dan, Thank God somebody remembers all the shit I forget. Evidently the advanced age is getting to me. Whether it's a brain fart or a ministroke or a maladjustment of the medication, I definitely seem to be a victim of CRS. Ralph Meanwhile, what is HTH? --part1_191.146c6df4.2b696757_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/28/2003 6:02:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Dear Mr. Al Thiemer:<BR> <BR> Do you need to turn up your hearing aid more? I know that you don't like<BR> to appear vain, so you tend to just nod your head as though you<BR> understood, even when that is not the case. This from the BP Archives,<BR> not more than 90 days ago, during our discussion of your 20th<BR> Anniversary Mac:<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Dan,<BR> <BR> Thank God somebody remembers all the shit I forget. Evidently the advanced age is getting to me. Whether it's a brain fart or a ministroke or a maladjustment of the medication, I definitely seem to be a victim of CRS.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> Meanwhile, what is HTH?</FONT></HTML> --part1_191.146c6df4.2b696757_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:27:15 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6b.867b230.2b6968f3_boundary" --part1_6b.867b230.2b6968f3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:54:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > There will now be no official language at all in the Parks. Cuyler, So if the Iraqis come and buy your parks and Heritage Houses, they can say whatever they want in whatever language they choose, whether Lisa and Ruth (or their Canadian Counterparts) like it or not? Are they free not to talk to the RCMP's or the FBI? Maybe you should consider coming back to upstate Noo Yawk and see that Imre Inre guy at IHS you've been talking about Ralph --part1_6b.867b230.2b6968f3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:54:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> There will now be no official language at all in the Parks.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Cuyler,<BR> <BR> So if the Iraqis come and buy your parks and Heritage Houses, they can say whatever they want in whatever language they choose, whether Lisa and Ruth (or their Canadian Counterparts) like it or not? Are they free <U>not</U> to talk to the RCMP's or the FBI?<BR> <BR> Maybe you should consider coming back to upstate Noo Yawk and see that Imre Inre guy at IHS you've been talking about<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_6b.867b230.2b6968f3_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:30:37 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_128.21a0a250.2b6969bd_boundary" --part1_128.21a0a250.2b6969bd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:18:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc. > making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's > mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your > surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very > bad problem. > > Seems to me that we also had a discussion of honey wagons and related conveyances some months ago, which appear to indicate that not onlt does everything turn to shit, but it returns to shit. Hope This Helps. Ralph --part1_128.21a0a250.2b6969bd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:18:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc. making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very bad problem.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Seems to me that we also had a discussion of honey wagons and related conveyances some months ago, which appear to indicate that not onlt does everything turn to shit, but it returns to shit.<BR> <BR> Hope This Helps.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_128.21a0a250.2b6969bd_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:35:24 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c5.440f20e.2b696adc_boundary" --part1_1c5.440f20e.2b696adc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:20:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's case. > > - Pam > Nice, Pam, real nice. Making fun of the mnemonically challenged. Next thing, you'll change you email address again. Just wait and see which of these OTHER assholes gives you such worthless advice on what's wrong with your house. Sniff. Ralph --part1_1c5.440f20e.2b696adc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:20:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's case.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">- Pam</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Nice, Pam, real nice. Making fun of the mnemonically challenged. Next thing, you'll change you email address again. Just wait and see which of these OTHER assholes gives you such worthless advice on what's wrong with your house.<BR> <BR> Sniff.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1c5.440f20e.2b696adc_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:36:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: deleted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_10c.1e9cdb0c.2b696b04_boundary" --part1_10c.1e9cdb0c.2b696b04_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:40:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something > changed on your end? Ilene, It's your lucky day. Ralph --part1_10c.1e9cdb0c.2b696b04_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:40:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something changed on your end?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ilene,<BR> <BR> It's your lucky day.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_10c.1e9cdb0c.2b696b04_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:37:49 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_97.33504c13.2b696b6d_boundary" --part1_97.33504c13.2b696b6d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Back to work. Let's make history! > It's our job to FIX history. Ralph --part1_97.33504c13.2b696b6d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Back to work. Let's make history!<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> It's our job to FIX history. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_97.33504c13.2b696b6d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:40:43 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yiwhpQRTThZB8l7ejieNTQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_yiwhpQRTThZB8l7ejieNTQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything, including the incredibly useful house advice! I'm not trying to change my email address again (keeping my head low, and maybe now I'm in an environment that's less condusive to layoffitis). I think the local email servers have an email address of the day contest. I've seen so many different versions of my new email address that I don't know what to make of it. "They" say there's a plan afoot to standardize this stuff, but I'll see it when I believe it. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:20:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's case. - Pam Nice, Pam, real nice. Making fun of the mnemonically challenged. Next thing, you'll change you email address again. Just wait and see which of these OTHER assholes gives you such worthless advice on what's wrong with your house. Sniff. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_yiwhpQRTThZB8l7ejieNTQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything, including the incredibly useful house advice!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I'm not trying to change my email address again (keeping my head low, and maybe now I'm in an environment that's less condusive to layoffitis). I think the local email servers have an email address of the day contest. I've seen so many different versions of my new email address that I don't know what to make of it. "They" say there's a plan afoot to standardize this stuff, but I'll see it when I believe it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:35 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:20:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's case.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR> <BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">- Pam</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Nice, Pam, real nice. Making fun of the mnemonically challenged. Next thing, you'll change you email address again. Just wait and see which of these OTHER assholes gives you such worthless advice on what's wrong with your house.<BR><BR>Sniff.<BR><BR>Ralph<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_yiwhpQRTThZB8l7ejieNTQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:41:51 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--1017081063 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-6--1017081063 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--1017081063 --Apple-Mail-7--1017081063 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Its broken again?! Damn! And out of warrantee too! -jc On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Back to work.=A0 Let's make history! > > > > It's our job to FIX history. > > Ralph --Apple-Mail-7--1017081063 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Its broken again?! Damn! And out of warrantee too! =20 -jc On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>Back to work.=A0 Let's make history! It's our job to FIX history. Ralph </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-7--1017081063-- --Apple-Mail-6--1017081063 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0644; name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Callan\,AIA;John;;;=0D FN:John Callan\,AIA=0D ORG:John Callan\,Architect\,Inc.;=0D TITLE:Principal Architect=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:[log in to unmask] EMAIL;type=3DWORK:[log in to unmask] TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL:(651) 486-7579=0D TEL;type=3DFAX:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:(612) 817-1176=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;784 Deerwood Circle;Lino = Lakes;MN;55014-5433;United States=0D NOTE:Historic Preservation and Museum Services\nSusan=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:johncallanaia=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK:johncallanaia1=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-6--1017081063 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--1017081062 --Apple-Mail-8--1017081062 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-8--1017081062 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII --Apple-Mail-8--1017081062-- --Apple-Mail-6--1017081063-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:45:07 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e3.a1c477.2b696d23_boundary" --part1_1e3.a1c477.2b696d23_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:44:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Much of the furniture is in the Second Empire style, to the period of the > 1820's Sir: Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's? Sign me, Student of Marcus Whiffen --part1_1e3.a1c477.2b696d23_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:44:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Much of the furniture is in the Second Empire style, to the period of the 1820's </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Sir:<BR> <BR> Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's?<BR> <BR> Sign me,<BR> <BR> Student of Marcus Whiffen<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1e3.a1c477.2b696d23_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:47:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_105.260e27fd.2b696db6_boundary" --part1_105.260e27fd.2b696db6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:41:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything, including the > incredibly useful house advice! > Pam,. Yeah, that's what they all say. Especially the mothers of the girls I used to date. Ralph --part1_105.260e27fd.2b696db6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:41:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything, including the incredibly useful house advice!</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Pam,.<BR> <BR> Yeah, that's what they all say. Especially the mothers of the girls I used to date.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_105.260e27fd.2b696db6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:22:36 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KY0HYTA9JfU0QT3lCe6HtQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_KY0HYTA9JfU0QT3lCe6HtQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Walter To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:41:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything, including the incredibly useful house advice! Pam,. Yeah, that's what they all say. Especially the mothers of the girls I used to date. Ralph --Boundary_(ID_KY0HYTA9JfU0QT3lCe6HtQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson....</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:47 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:41:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything, including the incredibly useful house advice!</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Pam,.<BR><BR>Yeah, that's what they all say. Especially the mothers of the girls I used to date.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_KY0HYTA9JfU0QT3lCe6HtQ)-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:53:24 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: or, 1.5 cents a word.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1cc.12a80e4.2b698b34_boundary" --part1_1cc.12a80e4.2b698b34_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cross-posted from H-Urban... From: Steven A Riess <[log in to unmask]> I have been invited by a major publisher to edit a 600,000 word Encyclopedia= =20 of Major League Baseball Teams.=A0 This two-volume reference work is intende= d=20 to fill a significant gap in the reference field.=A0 While there are=20 encyclopedias of individual baseball teams, this work will consist of essays= =20 detailing the history of all the current thirty major league teams.=A0 The=20 intent is for the articles to be scholarly, analytical narratives that go=20 beyond the recounting of team glories year by year.=A0 My aim is to have ess= ays=20 written that not only recount each team's annual campaigns, their players,=20 and managers, but also provide a social and economic history of each club. I= =20 do not expect these to works of original research.=A0 I'm pretty sure nearly= =20 everything one would need to fulfill the assignment is available in secondar= y=20 sources. I am looking for essays that contextualize team histories in the=20 broader picture of sport and the development of their histories. I am lookin= g=20 for essays that not only examine the teams' performance on the field, but of= f=20 the field as well. The essays will deal in depth with the teams as urban=20 business enterprises that deal with labor issues, local governments and=20 politicians, and such major economic matters as the construction of=20 ballparks.=A0 Hence an essay on the White Sox will examine Comiskey's=20 development of his early ballparks, and will also consider how current owner= s=20 of the team secured public financing of the ballpark. In fact, a major issue= =20 for the essays since the 1950s would be the evolving relationship between=20 teams and cities as owners moved or threatened to move franchises to secure=20 financial support from local governments.=A0 I also hope contributors will=20 consider the particularistic relationship of a team to their hometowns. This letter is being sent to baseball experts in NASSH, who comprise a core,= =20 but certainly not all baseball scholars.=A0 While this project is=20 intellectually a feasible and significant project, there are practical=20 considerations.=A0 I am looking to you for some input as to viability.=A0 We= know=20 there are a sufficient number of experts to undertake the project, but there= =20 are practical considerations, namely time and money.=A0=A0 I am indicating b= elow=20 the approximate length of contributions as I envision them, along with=20 compensation.=A0 The compensation will include a stipend and a copy of the t= wo=20 volume work (the encyclopedia will sell for $150 a volume).=A0 The stipends=20 vary depending on the length of the contribution.=A0 Stipends for the longer= =20 entries are real money, however, the cash compensation is certainly far belo= w=20 what each author's input should merit if I had an unlimited budget.=A0 The=20 publisher has budgeted $10,000 for the thirty entries and $10,000 for visual= =20 materials. The author's sole responsibility is to complete a first-rate=20 essay.=A0 All editorial work, including indexing will be done by the=20 publisher.=A0 It would certainly be possible for authors to split assignment= s,=20 especially for teams like the Braves that have moved a lot. I am not asking anyone to commit themselves to the project, but frankly am=20 looking for interest or lack of interest.=A0=A0 Please contact me if you are= =20 potentially interested. Please contact me if you are not interested and let=20 me know why. Steve Riess=A0=20 Northeastern Illinois University --part1_1cc.12a80e4.2b698b34_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"= Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Cross-posted from H-Urban... <BR> <BR>From: Steven A Riess <[log in to unmask]> <BR> <BR>I have been invited by a major publisher to edit a 600,000 word Encyclop= edia of Major League Baseball Teams.=A0 This two-volume reference work is in= tended to fill a significant gap in the reference field.=A0 While there are=20= encyclopedias of individual baseball teams, this work will consist of essays= detailing the history of all the current thirty major league teams.=A0 The=20= intent is for the articles to be scholarly, analytical narratives that go be= yond the recounting of team glories year by year.=A0 My aim is to have essay= s written that not only recount each team's annual campaigns, their players,= and managers, but also provide a social and economic history of each club.=20= I do not expect these to works of original research.=A0 I'm pretty sure near= ly everything one would need to fulfill the assignment is available in secon= dary sources. I am looking for essays that contextualize team histories in t= he broader picture of sport and the development of their histories. I am loo= king for essays that not only examine the teams' performance on the field, b= ut off the field as well. The essays will deal in depth with the teams as ur= ban business enterprises that deal with labor issues, local governments and=20= politicians, and such major economic matters as the construction of ballpark= s.=A0 Hence an essay on the White Sox will examine Comiskey's development of= his early ballparks, and will also consider how current owners of the team=20= secured public financing of the ballpark. In fact, a major issue for the ess= ays since the 1950s would be the evolving relationship between teams and cit= ies as owners moved or threatened to move franchises to secure financial sup= port from local governments.=A0 I also hope contributors will consider the p= articularistic relationship of a team to their hometowns. <BR> <BR>This letter is being sent to baseball experts in NASSH, who comprise a c= ore, but certainly not all baseball scholars.=A0 While this project is intel= lectually a feasible and significant project, there are practical considerat= ions.=A0 I am looking to you for some input as to viability.=A0 We know ther= e are a sufficient number of experts to undertake the project, but there are= practical considerations, namely time and money.=A0=A0 I am indicating belo= w the approximate length of contributions as I envision them, along with com= pensation.=A0 The compensation will include a stipend and a copy of the two=20= volume work (the encyclopedia will sell for $150 a volume).=A0 The stipends=20= vary depending on the length of the contribution.=A0 Stipends for the longer= entries are real money, however, the cash compensation is certainly far bel= ow what each author's input should merit if I had an unlimited budget.=A0 Th= e publisher has budgeted $10,000 for the thirty entries and $10,000 for visu= al materials. The author's sole responsibility is to complete a first-rate e= ssay.=A0 All editorial work, including indexing will be done by the publishe= r.=A0 It would certainly be possible for authors to split assignments, espec= ially for teams like the Braves that have moved a lot. <BR> <BR>I am not asking anyone to commit themselves to the project, but frankly=20= am looking for interest or lack of interest.=A0=A0 Please contact me if you=20= are potentially interested. Please contact me if you are not interested and=20= let me know why. <BR> <BR>Steve Riess=A0=20 <BR>Northeastern Illinois University</FONT></HTML> --part1_1cc.12a80e4.2b698b34_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:33:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: or, 1.5 cents a word.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14e.1aeba552.2b6994ae_boundary" --part1_14e.1aeba552.2b6994ae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cross-posted from H-Urban... Sharpshooter, Tell me, seriously, is this how encyclopedic books come into existence? What I gather is the assignment is to read all the secondary sources a hack can find on baseball, steal what the sources say, artfully paraphrase if you will, and pump out a small portion of 600,000 words. Since I know or care next to nothing about baseball possibly this would make a good weekend hobby? Gab & Eti dust 1st base! ][<en --part1_14e.1aeba552.2b6994ae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Cross-posted from H-Urban... </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BR> Sharpshooter,<BR> <BR> Tell me, seriously, is this how encyclopedic books come into existence?<BR> <BR> What I gather is the assignment is to read all the secondary sources a hack can find on baseball, steal what the sources say, artfully paraphrase if you will, and pump out a small portion of 600,000 words.<BR> <BR> Since I know or care next to nothing about baseball possibly this would make a good weekend hobby? Gab & Eti dust 1st base!<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_14e.1aeba552.2b6994ae_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:47:31 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: or, 1.5 cents a word.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Gee, when does he ask for our bank account number to make the deposit? Mogambi Twybil -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:54:52 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have a wonderful group, known locally as the "Preservation Ladies" for perceived historical reasons. We meet once a month for lunch and discussion. Most are graduates of the EMU HP program, plus a few like me who did not. We have become a force to be reckoned with once riled, and it's great networking with a bunch of people with preservation being the common thread. A couple men are on the invite list, but they rarely come; it really is just us Ladies. QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA 219 1/2 N. Main Street Ann Arbor, MI 48104 [log in to unmask] www.quinnevans.com v 734.663.5888 f 734.663.5044 -----Original Message----- From: John Callan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:02 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Progress of the Ladies I have read of, and been told tales of, the contributions made by various Ladies to the beginnings of preservation. So much of the credit in the creation myths of preservation are heaped upon the several male individuals enthroned at certain institutions of learning, collecting and amusement. But I rise to acknowledge the contribution made by the Ladies past and present. I would not refuse them the credit, nor the mud, the blood, the beer, nor the colorful technical language. (Not that I'm capable of watching my language that carefully.) What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR and the current Ladies of the NPS! It feels alright. I don't think my head will explode. Back to work. Let's make history! (I know Bryan...but I love to say it!) -jc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:10:37 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: or, 1.5 cents a word.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_173.1574fe21.2b699d4d_boundary" --part1_173.1574fe21.2b699d4d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/03 3:34:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Tell me, seriously, is this how encyclopedic books come into existence? > You better believe it, Bartleby. The pay rate on the MacMillan Enclopedia of Architects was, as I recall, 0.3 cents a word. A lot of architectural historians got filthy rich!!! Of course, that was during the dot.com boom.... Sign me, Wordsworth --part1_173.1574fe21.2b699d4d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/03 3:34:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Tell me, seriously, is this how encyclopedic books come into existence? <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">You better believe it, Bartleby. The pay rate on the MacMillan Enclopedia of Architects was, as I recall, 0.3 cents a word. A lot of architectural historians got filthy rich!!! Of course, that was during the dot.com boom.... Sign me, Wordsworth</FONT></HTML> --part1_173.1574fe21.2b699d4d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:55:17 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Thanks everybody, Peter took off four minutes ago... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_20.88aee25.2b69b5d5_boundary" --part1_20.88aee25.2b69b5d5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...for New Zealand, the country so beautiful they say ... you never come back. PS he left with $1480 in his pocket, or at least his debit card. Christopher --part1_20.88aee25.2b69b5d5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">...for New Zealand, the country so beautiful they say ... you never come back. <BR> <BR>PS he left with $1480 in his pocket, or at least his debit card. Christopher </FONT></HTML> --part1_20.88aee25.2b69b5d5_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:45:17 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I thought the big money was in the asthetically pleasing, ever present, "Jersey barrier" which seems to have migrated north and now graces our roadsides in Vermont in ever increasing numbers. I just wish some of your "graffiti artists" would migrate with them to make them more colorful. I love the "graffiti" that they paint and get angry whenever I see a program on TV about how they are persecuted by folks in the city. These people are real artists and do what they can to make things like dull train cars and plywood temporary walls more attractive. There, that's my rant for the day, week, month, whatever. Ruth At 1:47 PM -0500 1/28/03, Ken Follett wrote: Has something happened to the cast stone industry, or is it just in New York? A lot has happened to the cast stone industry... mostly it is driven by who pays for it (the market) and what those who pay want done in respect of how much they want to pay. There is an industry association and they do technical research and issue publications and hold conferences. The big money in cast stone (concrete castings) though I think is in concrete pipe. Concrete pipe leads to capital that can in turn be invested in aesthetic work, and so often you have firms that actually know a lot about concrete pipe who decide to venture into aesthetic work as a market niche. They may know about concrete pipe, but they know less about aesthetics, and when they venture into histo presto they may know even less. If you look at the surface area of a concrete pipe you may notice that it is not exactly exciting stuff. -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:58:14 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Professor Fish Socks In-Reply-To: <073658B0FB07D4118C03009027303FC708214C6F@MCCHIEX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I don't think socks with fish woven into them are all THAT weird, whether in court or not. As to fish without socks, we don't do that here in southern VTbut they may do it up in the Northeast Kingdom where I've heard there are some VERY strange folk. We did have one old gent when I was a kid who never wore anything on his feet. I've seen him at Town Meeting barefoot and folks used to come for miles around to see him out gathering sap in the snow barefoot. But he was unusual. Ruth At 7:31 AM -0600 1/28/03, Score, Robert wrote: I heard that they just wear the fish on there feet without any socks in Vermont, Is this true Ruth? -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Walter [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:12 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Professor Fish Socks In a message dated 1/27/2003 5:21:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Do tell, how did this name come about? Ruth Ruth, Do you, at this late date, think I make this shit up? The alleged gentleman wore socks with images of tropical fish woven into them in a court of law in the State of New York. I observed this with my own eyes, and it was subsequently confirmed by more than one member of the bar. I believe, but am not certain that, he wore these socks on the witness stand. Ralph PS-- Can it be that people don't wear fish socks in Vermont? -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:44:11 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Deb Bledsoe <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... >your 20th >Anniversary Mac: umm, what's MAC ? and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that is, right?) in the subject lines, but no !^&^%ing cussing is allowed? I thought this was the new "family list" for histo-presto people...... deb -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:36:55 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Mark W. James" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_104.25f55b75.2b69e9c7_boundary" --part1_104.25f55b75.2b69e9c7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 6:12:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that > is, right?) Well, I am moving to Idaho soon so I'll ask. Mark --part1_104.25f55b75.2b69e9c7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 6:12:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that<BR> is, right?) </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Well, I am moving to Idaho soon so I'll ask.<BR> <BR> Mark</FONT></HTML> --part1_104.25f55b75.2b69e9c7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:15:45 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_170.19eadd7b.2b69f2e1_boundary" --part1_170.19eadd7b.2b69f2e1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/03 9:12:18 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: > sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that is, right?) in the subject lines, > but no !^&^%ing cussing is allowed? SheeHee is the new, socio-politically correct gender-neutral pronoun. Endorsed by Art Linkletter and the League of Nations. Yr friend, If Ken Has To Collect The Pure Water Runoff From His Cleaning Jobs Before It Runs Into The Gutter, What About That Guy In The Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing Gum Spots With A Secret-Formula Detergent? --part1_170.19eadd7b.2b69f2e1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/03 9:12:18 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that is, right?) in the subject lines, but no !^&^%ing cussing is allowed? </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"><BR> SheeHee is the new, socio-politically correct gender-neutral pronoun. Endorsed by Art Linkletter and the League of Nations. <BR> <BR> Yr friend, If Ken Has To Collect The Pure Water Runoff From His Cleaning Jobs Before It Runs Into The Gutter, What About That Guy In The Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing Gum Spots With A Secret-Formula Detergent? <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_170.19eadd7b.2b69f2e1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:32:48 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: WPA photos "every building in your town" ca. 1940... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_129.218f126b.2b69f6e0_boundary" --part1_129.218f126b.2b69f6e0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any practioner out there >>personally<< familiar with a WPA photo project, ca. 1940, which photographed every building in a town? New York City, Springfield Mass and a few other American cities have surviving caches of these photos. In NYC they are known as the "tax photos". Christopher --part1_129.218f126b.2b69f6e0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Any practioner out there >>personally<< familiar with a WPA photo project, ca. 1940, which photographed every building in a town? New York City, Springfield Mass and a few other American cities have surviving caches of these photos. In NYC they are known as the "tax photos".<BR> <BR> Christopher</FONT></HTML> --part1_129.218f126b.2b69f6e0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:41:51 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_186.1548e140.2b69f8ff_boundary" --part1_186.1548e140.2b69f8ff_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/03 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR > and the current Ladies of the NPS! Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair. Signed, Not D.A.R. --part1_186.1548e140.2b69f8ff_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/03 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR<BR> and the current Ladies of the NPS!</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.<BR> <BR> Signed, <BR> Not D.A.R.<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_186.1548e140.2b69f8ff_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:45:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Mark W. James" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6.88ec549.2b69f9de_boundary" --part1_6.88ec549.2b69f9de_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 7:42:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon > Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the > "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history > trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent > chair. > > Signed, > Not D.A.R. > No wasn't it Tolstoy who said: "Regard the society of women as a necessary unpleasantness, and avoid it whenever possible." --part1_6.88ec549.2b69f9de_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 7:42:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.<BR> <BR> Signed, <BR> Not D.A.R.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> No wasn't it Tolstoy who said: "Regard the society of women as a necessary unpleasantness, and avoid it whenever possible." </FONT></HTML> --part1_6.88ec549.2b69f9de_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:21:33 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--978699990 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-6--978699990 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--978699990 --Apple-Mail-7--978699990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Them be the first group of Preservation Babes of which I was thinkin'=20 alright! -jc On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 09:41 PM, Candice Brashears wrote: > In a message dated 1/29/03 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > What a thought for the morning?!=A0 To slam together visions of the = DAR > and the current Ladies of the NPS! > > > > Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount=20 > Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s;=A0 Without = whom=20 > the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the=20 > "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies"=20= > to the docent chair. > > Signed, > Not D.A.R. > --Apple-Mail-7--978699990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Them be the first group of Preservation Babes of which I was thinkin' alright! =20 -jc On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 09:41 PM, Candice Brashears wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 1/29/03 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>What a thought for the morning?!=A0 To slam together visions of the DAR and the current Ladies of the NPS! Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s;=A0 Without whom the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair. Signed, Not D.A.R. </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-7--978699990-- --Apple-Mail-6--978699990 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0644; name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Callan\,AIA;John;;;=0D FN:John Callan\,AIA=0D ORG:John Callan\,Architect\,Inc.;=0D TITLE:Principal Architect=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:[log in to unmask] EMAIL;type=3DWORK:[log in to unmask] TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL:(651) 486-7579=0D TEL;type=3DFAX:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:(612) 817-1176=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;784 Deerwood Circle;Lino = Lakes;MN;55014-5433;United States=0D NOTE:Historic Preservation and Museum Services\nSusan=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:johncallanaia=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK:johncallanaia1=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-6--978699990 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--978699990 --Apple-Mail-8--978699990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-8--978699990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII --Apple-Mail-8--978699990-- --Apple-Mail-6--978699990-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:46:31 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Deb Bledsoe > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:44 PM >=20 >=20 > >your 20th > >Anniversary Mac: >=20 >=20 > umm, what's MAC ? Do you seriously think that a true Mac zealot is going to bite on such an obvious troll? > and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all=20 > aware of what that is, right?) in the subject lines, but no=20 > !^&^%ing cussing is allowed? I thought this was the new=20 > "family list" for histo-presto people...... It's obvious to me that this is a real PC list.... __________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Oh joy! Rapture! Now Raleigh Historic I have a brain!" Districts Commission - Scarecrow [log in to unmask] =20 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:15:08 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Graffiti Improves the View (was the SheeHee thread) In-Reply-To: <a04310154ba5db43e424a@[216.114.174.185]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ruth writes: >I thought the big money was in the asthetically pleasing, ever present, "Jersey barrier" which seems to have migrated north and now graces our roadsides in Vermont in ever increasing numbers. I just wish some of your "graffiti artists" would migrate with them to make them more colorful. I love the "graffiti" that they paint and get angry whenever I see a program on TV about how they are persecuted by folks in the city. These people are real artists and do what they can to make things like dull train cars and plywood temporary walls more attractive. There, that's my rant for the day, week, month, whatever. Ruth< Well maybe in some cases, maybe in a lot of cases, it shows off how ugly the city can be when people don't consider the view from the tram or whatever as of any importance. Having just returned from a trip to Germany, studying historic roof framing technique, I can tell you it's one thing to see a fabulous piece of spray paint art on an industrial grade visual barrier and completely another to see it on 500+ year old stone work. What's beautiful is without doubt in the eye of the beholder, and there is obviously a difference between what a Woodstock vintage histo prestoid sees, and what a 21st century skinhead with a can of spray paint does. Rudy's rant of the morning. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:29:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_78.36df6872.2b6a90b0_boundary" --part1_78.36df6872.2b6a90b0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson.... > Pam, Not exactly what I meant. The mothers liked me more than their daughters, but they didn't like me that much, either. Ralph --part1_78.36df6872.2b6a90b0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson....</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Pam,<BR> <BR> Not exactly what I meant. The mothers liked me more than their daughters, but they didn't like me <U>that</U> much, either.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_78.36df6872.2b6a90b0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:31:31 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: or, 1.5 cents a word.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e6.35352166.2b6a9143_boundary" --part1_e6.35352166.2b6a9143_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:54:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Please contact me if you are not interested and let me know why. > Dilligaf. HTH. Ralph --part1_e6.35352166.2b6a9143_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:54:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Please contact me if you are not interested and let me know why. <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Dilligaf. HTH.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_e6.35352166.2b6a9143_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:26:48 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Lisa Sasser <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII <HTML><HEAD> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2712.300" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Candice,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Ms. Cunningham sounded like a force to be reckoned with:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">"If the men of America have seen fit to allow the home of its most respected hero to go to ruin, why can't the women of America band together to save it?"</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">"Ladies, the home of Washington is in your charge - see to it that you keep it the home of Washington. Let no irreverent hand change it; no vandal hands desecrate it with the fingers of progress. Those who go to the home in which he lived and died wish to see in what he lived and died."</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><EM></EM></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">I'd be willing to bet that no one could have relegated her to the docent chair. When I was living in Annapolis, one of my neighbors mother was a current Mount Vernon Regent. She was, by all accounts truly "formidable", and extremely adept at keeping both ladies and "laddies" whipped into shape.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">BTW, I was cleaning out a filing cabinet a couple of weeks ago and found my DAR certificate. (My mother made me join when I was in high school). I was thoroughly mortified at the time, and told her that I took it to apply the the next revolution. Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of America"?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">signed,</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">NPS and DAR</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Candice Brashears</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 1/29/2003 5:41:51 PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Progress of the Ladies</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 1/29/03 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR<BR>and the current Ladies of the NPS!</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.<BR><BR>Signed, <BR>Not D.A.R.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:32:54 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: or, 1.5 cents a word.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f3.27abd965.2b6a9196_boundary" --part1_f3.27abd965.2b6a9196_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 3:48:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Mogambi Twybil I'd been wondering where you were lately, Bwana. Our regards to Jane and Cheetah. Ralph --part1_f3.27abd965.2b6a9196_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 3:48:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Mogambi Twybil</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I'd been wondering where you were lately, Bwana. Our regards to Jane and Cheetah.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_f3.27abd965.2b6a9196_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:35:01 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a2.ffbc9b3.2b6a9215_boundary" --part1_1a2.ffbc9b3.2b6a9215_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 3:57:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > A couple men are on the invite list, but they rarely > come; it really is just us Ladies. > What a surprise. Ralph These words at 1.5 cents per really add up, don't they? --part1_1a2.ffbc9b3.2b6a9215_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 3:57:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A couple men are on the invite list, but they rarely<BR> come; it really is just us Ladies.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> What a surprise.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> These words at 1.5 cents per really add up, don't they?</FONT></HTML> --part1_1a2.ffbc9b3.2b6a9215_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:42:59 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Thanks everybody, Peter took off four minutes ago... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_30.370fe403.2b6a93f3_boundary" --part1_30.370fe403.2b6a93f3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 5:56:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > PS he left with $1480 in his pocket, or at least his debit card Better his debit card than yours. Ralph --part1_30.370fe403.2b6a93f3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 5:56:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">PS he left with $1480 in his pocket, or at least his debit card</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Better his debit card than yours.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_30.370fe403.2b6a93f3_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:46:46 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: WPA photos "every building in your town" ca. 1940... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ea.9b2f52.2b6a94d6_boundary" --part1_1ea.9b2f52.2b6a94d6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/03 10:33:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Any practioner out there >>personally<< familiar with a WPA photo project, > ca. 1940, which photographed every building in a town? New York City, > Springfield Mass and a few other American cities have surviving caches of > these photos. In NYC they are known as the "tax photos". > > Christopher Not so sure "every" building was photographed, but quite a number of historic buildings were photo'd in CT; actually a program surprizingly similar to what the Colonial Dames did in the 1920s-30s. The WPA program is also similar to HABS. HABS/HAER is digitally accessible at www.loc.gov (Library of Congress) in the American Memory archives, at least in part. CTs WPA project files are located at the CT State Library in Hartford. Candy B --part1_1ea.9b2f52.2b6a94d6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/03 10:33:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Any practioner out there >>personally<< familiar with a WPA photo project, ca. 1940, which photographed every building in a town? New York City, Springfield Mass and a few other American cities have surviving caches of these photos. In NYC they are known as the "tax photos".<BR> <BR> Christopher</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Not so sure "every" building was photographed, but quite a number of historic buildings were photo'd in CT; actually a program surprizingly similar to what the Colonial Dames did in the 1920s-30s. The WPA program is also similar to HABS. HABS/HAER is digitally accessible at www.loc.gov (Library of Congress) in the American Memory archives, at least in part. CTs WPA project files are located at the CT State Library in Hartford.<BR> <BR> Candy B</FONT></HTML> --part1_1ea.9b2f52.2b6a94d6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:51:37 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d2.13f1197.2b6a95f9_boundary" --part1_1d2.13f1197.2b6a95f9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 7:18:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > These people are real artists and do what they can to make things like dull > train cars and plywood temporary walls more attractive. Ralph, Yeah, and you probably think all those leaves are pretty in the fall too. Having been here in lovely NY when the subway cars were all graffitied, and seeing graffiti spread to freeway bridges in LA, it ain't so attractive. Kinda like dogs peeing on everything, only you can see it forever. Ralph --part1_1d2.13f1197.2b6a95f9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 7:18:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">These people are real artists and do what they can to make things like dull train cars and plywood temporary walls more attractive.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Ralph,<BR> <BR> Yeah, and you probably think all those leaves are pretty in the fall too.<BR> <BR> Having been here in lovely NY when the subway cars were all graffitied, and seeing graffiti spread to freeway bridges in LA, it ain't so attractive. Kinda like dogs peeing on everything, only you can see it forever.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1d2.13f1197.2b6a95f9_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:00:14 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_145.91dc551.2b6a97fe_boundary" --part1_145.91dc551.2b6a97fe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 9:12:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > umm, what's MAC ? > > and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that > is, right?) Jeez, Louise (started out as Jezz Lousie). In that context, Mac referred to the computers made by Apple of Cupertino, CA. Talk about PC-centrics. And no, I am not aware of sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and soon to be of the Garden State kindly enlighten those of us who are unaware? Ralph PS--I was wondering what happened to you, on-line wise, too. Glad to see you back. --part1_145.91dc551.2b6a97fe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 9:12:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">umm, what's MAC ?<BR> <BR> and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that<BR> is, right?)</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Jeez, Louise (started out as Jezz Lousie).<BR> <BR> In that context, Mac referred to the computers made by Apple of Cupertino, CA. Talk about PC-centrics. And no, I am not aware of sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and soon to be of the Garden State kindly enlighten those of us who are unaware?<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> PS--I was wondering what happened to you, on-line wise, too. Glad to see you back.</FONT></HTML> --part1_145.91dc551.2b6a97fe_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:05:02 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Thanks everybody, Peter took off four minutes ago... 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Met History wrote: > ...for New Zealand, the country so beautiful they say ... you never > come back. > > PS he left with $1480 in his pocket, or at least his debit card. > Christopher --------------E385A906B16517163DA58932 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> w/ $ 1,480 he can't afford to come back... <p>Met History wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=-1>...for New Zealand, the country so beautiful they say ... you never come back.</font></font> <p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=-1>PS he left with $1480 in his pocket, or at least his debit card. Christopher</font></font></blockquote> </html> --------------E385A906B16517163DA58932-- --------------DD99D521E5B272A9E5457586 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. 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Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------DD99D521E5B272A9E5457586-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:08:59 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies X-To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b8.37c86028.2b6a9a0b_boundary" --part1_b8.37c86028.2b6a9a0b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Formidable - is what I have heard. Of course, there have been many since all over the US; being from New England myself, I am mostly familiar with how professionalism evolved in these here parts (more private than governmental; more localized than regional - although SPNEA did make the attempt c.1910-1950s) Jefferson Airplane: can't remember at the moment, but if you hum a few bars I'll bet it will strike a bell. cb In a message dated 1/30/03 9:32:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > She was, by all accounts truly "formidable", and extremely adept at keeping > both ladies and "laddies" whipped into shape. > > BTW, I was cleaning out a filing cabinet a couple of weeks ago and found my > DAR certificate. (My mother made me join when I was in high school). I > was thoroughly mortified at the time, and told her that I took it to apply > the the next revolution. Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's > "Volunteers of America"? > --part1_b8.37c86028.2b6a9a0b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Formidable - is what I have heard. Of course, there have been many since all over the US; being from New England myself, I am mostly familiar with how professionalism evolved in these here parts (more private than governmental; more localized than regional - although SPNEA did make the attempt c.1910-1950s)<BR> <BR> Jefferson Airplane: can't remember at the moment, but if you hum a few bars I'll bet it will strike a bell. <BR> <BR> cb<BR> <BR> In a message dated 1/30/03 9:32:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">She was, by all accounts truly "formidable", and extremely adept at keeping both ladies and "laddies" whipped into shape.<BR> <BR> BTW, I was cleaning out a filing cabinet a couple of weeks ago and found my DAR certificate. (My mother made me join when I was in high school). I was thoroughly mortified at the time, and told her that I took it to apply the the next revolution. Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of America"?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_b8.37c86028.2b6a9a0b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:01:42 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Lawrence Kestenbaum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Maybe Ilene can provide more details on this -- the house was across the street from her. Ann Arbor News article: http://www.mlive.com/news/aanews/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/news-3/1043768448210440.xml Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, [log in to unmask] The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:16:24 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--935808063 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-7--935808063 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--935808063 --Apple-Mail-8--935808063 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Not merely Cupertio, Ralph, but 1 Infinite Loop What an address! (And me wondering if my mail would reach me if it were sent to the=20 Stately sounding hamlet of St. Paul.) -jc On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 09:00 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: > In a message dated 1/29/2003 9:12:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > umm, what's=A0 MAC ? > > and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what=20= > that > is, right?) > > > > Jeez, Louise (started out as Jezz Lousie). > > In that context, Mac referred to the computers made by Apple of=20 > Cupertino, CA.=A0 Talk about PC-centrics.=A0 And no, I am not aware of=20= > sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and soon to be=20= > of the Garden State kindly enlighten those of us who are unaware? > > Ralph > > PS--I was wondering what happened to you, on-line wise, too.=A0 Glad = to=20 > see you back. --Apple-Mail-8--935808063 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not merely Cupertio, Ralph, but=20 <fontfamily><param>Lucida Grande</param>1 Infinite Loop=20 What an address! (And me wondering if my mail would reach me if it were sent to the Stately sounding hamlet of St. Paul.) -jc </fontfamily> On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 09:00 AM, Ralph Walter wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 1/29/2003 9:12:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: </smaller></fontfamily>umm, what's=A0 MAC ? and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that is, right?) Jeez, Louise (started out as Jezz Lousie). In that context, Mac referred to the computers made by Apple of Cupertino, CA.=A0 Talk about PC-centrics.=A0 And no, I am not aware of sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and soon to be of the Garden State kindly enlighten those of us who are unaware? Ralph PS--I was wondering what happened to you, on-line wise, too.=A0 Glad to see you back. </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-8--935808063-- --Apple-Mail-7--935808063 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0644; name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Callan\,AIA;John;;;=0D FN:John Callan\,AIA=0D ORG:John Callan\,Architect\,Inc.;=0D TITLE:Principal Architect=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:[log in to unmask] EMAIL;type=3DWORK:[log in to unmask] TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL:(651) 486-7579=0D TEL;type=3DFAX:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:(612) 817-1176=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;784 Deerwood Circle;Lino = Lakes;MN;55014-5433;United States=0D NOTE:Historic Preservation and Museum Services\nSusan=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:johncallanaia=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK:johncallanaia1=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-7--935808063 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--935808062 --Apple-Mail-9--935808062 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-9--935808062 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII --Apple-Mail-9--935808062-- --Apple-Mail-7--935808063-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:14:26 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d0.340a0e45.2b6ab772_boundary" --part1_d0.340a0e45.2b6ab772_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:16:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > What About That Guy In The Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing > Gum Spots With A Secret-Formula Detergent? > All that stuff is environmentally friendly, good for the ecostructure, and all that other shit. Dubya and Cheney drink it every morning for breakfast. Rev. Jim (Jones, not Rhodes) --part1_d0.340a0e45.2b6ab772_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:16:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">What About That Guy In The Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing Gum Spots With A Secret-Formula Detergent? <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> All that stuff is environmentally friendly, good for the ecostructure, and all that other shit. Dubya and Cheney drink it every morning for breakfast.<BR> <BR> Rev. Jim (Jones, not Rhodes)</FONT></HTML> --part1_d0.340a0e45.2b6ab772_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:17:16 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: WPA photos "every building in your town" ca. 1940... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7f.31d9b41c.2b6ab81c_boundary" --part1_7f.31d9b41c.2b6ab81c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They have them in Jersey City, also, where they are also called tax photos. It is my impression/vague recollection that they were made in 1937 or 38. Ralph --part1_7f.31d9b41c.2b6ab81c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">They have them in Jersey City, also, where they are also called tax photos. It is my impression/vague recollection that they were made in 1937 or 38.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_7f.31d9b41c.2b6ab81c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:20:04 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_126.20fce6a5.2b6ab8c4_boundary" --part1_126.20fce6a5.2b6ab8c4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:42:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon > Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the > "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history > trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent > chair. > Bitch, bitch bitch. Meet up with Pyrate and the Kermits sometime, and you'll wish you were in the docent chair. Mr. Sensitive --part1_126.20fce6a5.2b6ab8c4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:42:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Bitch, bitch bitch. Meet up with Pyrate and the Kermits sometime, and you'll wish you were in the docent chair.<BR> <BR> Mr. Sensitive</FONT></HTML> --part1_126.20fce6a5.2b6ab8c4_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:21:30 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12d.217fc088.2b6ab91a_boundary" --part1_12d.217fc088.2b6ab91a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:45:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > No wasn't it Tolstoy who said: "Regard the society of women as a necessary > unpleasantness, and avoid it whenever possible." Oh, yeth. Corn Holer --part1_12d.217fc088.2b6ab91a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:45:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">No wasn't it Tolstoy who said: "Regard the society of women as a necessary unpleasantness, and avoid it whenever possible." </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BR> Oh, yeth.<BR> <BR> Corn Holer</FONT></HTML> --part1_12d.217fc088.2b6ab91a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:22:30 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2C884.2B433BE0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C884.2B433BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ahh, Volunteers... I like the version from the original Woodstock Album. As I recall it starts out with an intro (from Grace Slick?) to the effect of "You've heard the groovy music now it's time for Morning Maniac Music...yeah, it's a new dawn..." I gather they were the first band on that day and opened their set with "Volunteers." -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Sasser [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:27 AM To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies > Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of America"? signed, NPS and DAR ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C884.2B433BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D250172017-30012003><FONT = color=3D#0000ff=20 face=3DArial size=3D2>Ahh, Volunteers...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial size=3D2>I like=20 the version from the original Woodstock Album. As I recall it = starts out=20 with an intro (from Grace Slick?) <SPAN = class=3D250172017-30012003><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>to the effect of = </FONT></SPAN>"You've=20 heard the groovy music now it's time for <SPAN = class=3D250172017-30012003><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>M</FONT></SPAN>orning <SPAN=20 class=3D250172017-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>M</FONT></SPAN>aniac <SPAN class=3D250172017-30012003><FONT = color=3D#0000ff=20 face=3DArial size=3D2>M</FONT></SPAN>usic...yeah, it's a new = dawn..." =20 </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial size=3D2>I=20 gather they were the first band on that day and opened their set with=20 "Volunteers."</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Lisa Sasser=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 30, = 2003 9:27=20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PIN= [log in to unmask]</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 Re: Progress of the Ladies<BR><BR></FONT><SPAN = class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><SPAN = class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"> =20 Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of=20 America"?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">signed,</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">NPS=20 and DAR</SPAN></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C884.2B433BE0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:36:40 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2C886.25D67620" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C886.25D67620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I like the version from the original Woodstock Album. As I recall it starts out with an intro (from Grace Slick?) something like "You've heard the groovy music now it's time for morning maniac music...yeah, it's a new dawn..." I gather they were the first band on that day and opened their set with "Volunteers." -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Sasser [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:27 AM To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies > Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of America"? signed, NPS and DAR ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C886.25D67620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial size=3D2>I like=20 the version from the original Woodstock Album. As I recall it = starts out=20 with an intro (from Grace Slick?) something like "You've heard the = groovy=20 music now it's time for morning maniac music...yeah, it's a new=20 dawn..." </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial size=3D2>I=20 gather they were the first band on that day and opened their set with=20 "Volunteers."</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Lisa Sasser=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 30, = 2003 9:27=20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PIN= [log in to unmask]</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 Re: Progress of the Ladies<BR><BR></FONT><SPAN = class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><SPAN = class=3D300571217-30012003><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"> =20 Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of=20 America"?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">signed,</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: = Times New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; = mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">NPS=20 and DAR</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D2> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C886.25D67620-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:43:54 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ad.29f6cffb.2b6acc6a_boundary" --part1_ad.29f6cffb.2b6acc6a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry, Unpleasant. "Firefighters fought bitter cold and outdated construction techniques for several hours before the late-morning fire was called under control..." Outdated construction techniques... what an odd phrase. I assume the outdated construction technique was the stupid welder removing the fire escape that set the building on fire. ][<en --part1_ad.29f6cffb.2b6acc6a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Larry,<BR> <BR> Unpleasant. <BR> <BR> "Firefighters fought bitter cold and outdated construction techniques for several hours before the late-morning fire was called under control..." Outdated construction techniques... what an odd phrase. I assume the outdated construction technique was the stupid welder removing the fire escape that set the building on fire.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_ad.29f6cffb.2b6acc6a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:04:56 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Thanks everybody, Peter took off four minutes ago... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_54.89f1a8e.2b6ad158_boundary" --part1_54.89f1a8e.2b6ad158_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the country so beautiful they say ... you never come back. Sharpshooter, Request pictures w/ the e-mail, please. Same reason I avoid going back to Ithaca. Beautiful must always be some other place that we do not want to return from. ][<en --part1_54.89f1a8e.2b6ad158_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">the country so beautiful they say ... you never come back. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Sharpshooter,<BR> <BR> Request pictures w/ the e-mail, please. <BR> <BR> Same reason I avoid going back to Ithaca. Beautiful must always be some other place that we do not want to return from.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_54.89f1a8e.2b6ad158_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:34:09 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_128.21bc3b1e.2b6ad831_boundary" --part1_128.21bc3b1e.2b6ad831_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What About That Guy In The Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing Gum Spots With A Secret-Formula Detergent? If he keeps getting enough press exposure then he will get spotted and tagged by the spirit of DEP and he will also need to suck up his dirty water before it runs off. ][<en --part1_128.21bc3b1e.2b6ad831_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">What About That Guy In The Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing Gum Spots With A Secret-Formula Detergent? </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BR> If he keeps getting enough press exposure then he will get spotted and tagged by the spirit of DEP and he will also need to suck up his dirty water before it runs off.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_128.21bc3b1e.2b6ad831_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:36:00 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_148.90a349e.2b6ad8a0_boundary" --part1_148.90a349e.2b6ad8a0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SheeHee is the new, socio-politically correct gender-neutral pronoun. Endorsed by Art Linkletter and the League of Nations. Sharpshooter: Art Linkletter... hmmm... I thought it had to do with all the special favor's ads in the Village Voice. No room for PeeWee Herman, though. ][<en --part1_148.90a349e.2b6ad8a0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">SheeHee is the new, socio-politically correct gender-neutral pronoun. Endorsed by Art Linkletter and the League of Nations. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Sharpshooter: Art Linkletter... hmmm... I thought it had to do with all the special favor's ads in the Village Voice. No room for PeeWee Herman, though. ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_148.90a349e.2b6ad8a0_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:40:34 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_17f.16104d52.2b6ad9b2_boundary" --part1_17f.16104d52.2b6ad9b2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair. Crass capitalist commercialism -- I hope the D.A.R. ladies come through so we can actually make the needed repairs on one of our "museum" projects. All hail the D.A.R.! I hope they have some idea what they are looking at, on their upcomming progress tour, when they see all the holes that we have left in the wall and that they do not jump to the conclusion that we are attempting to turn the mansion into a bath house. ][<en --part1_17f.16104d52.2b6ad9b2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Crass capitalist commercialism -- I hope the D.A.R. ladies come through so we can actually make the needed repairs on one of our "museum" projects. All hail the D.A.R.! I hope they have some idea what they are looking at, on their upcomming progress tour, when they see all the holes that we have left in the wall and that they do not jump to the conclusion that we are attempting to turn the mansion into a bath house.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_17f.16104d52.2b6ad9b2_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:43:36 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2C897.E188AFD0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C897.E188AFD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Understand that this is my new neighborhood, that my 1835 house is across a very narrow street, and that I watched the entire process from the sidewalk and then from inside my house. Today they are still removing salvageable stuff at the same time they are installing new trusses on the fire-damaged rear wing. Tenants will be back in their apartments within a month!!! I'm not sure what they'll do with the historic wallpaper and warped floors... Scary! =20 =20 QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS=20 Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA=20 219 1/2 N. Main Street=20 Ann Arbor, MI 48104=20 [log in to unmask] www.quinnevans.com=20 v 734.663.5888=20 f 734.663.5044=20 -----Original Message----- From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:44 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns =09 =09 Larry, =09 Unpleasant.=20 =09 "Firefighters fought bitter cold and outdated construction techniques for several hours before the late-morning fire was called under control..." Outdated construction techniques... what an odd phrase. I assume the outdated construction technique was the stupid welder removing the fire escape that set the building on fire. =09 ][<en =09 =09 =09 =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C897.E188AFD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D910574019-30012003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Understand that this is my new neighborhood, that my 1835 house = is across=20 a very narrow street, and that I watched the entire process from the = sidewalk=20 and then from inside my house. Today they are still removing = salvageable=20 stuff at the same time they are installing new trusses on the = fire-damaged rear=20 wing. Tenants will be back in their apartments within a = month!!! I'm=20 not sure what they'll do with the historic wallpaper and warped = floors... =20 Scary!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --><BR> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS</FONT> </P> <P><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA</FONT></B> </P> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>219 1/2 N. Main Street</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Ann Arbor, MI 48104</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>[log in to unmask]</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>www.quinnevans.com</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>v=20 734.663.5888</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>f = 734.663.5044</FONT> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ken = Follett=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 30, 2003 = 1:44=20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> = [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT=20 face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Larry,<BR><BR>Unpleasant. <BR><BR>"Firefighters = fought=20 bitter cold and outdated construction techniques for several hours = before the=20 late-morning fire was called under control..." Outdated construction=20 techniques... what an odd phrase. I assume the outdated construction = technique=20 was the stupid welder removing the fire escape that set the building = on=20 fire.<BR><BR>][<en</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff"=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></= HTML> =00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C897.E188AFD0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:45:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_55.3791c130.2b6adaf1_boundary" --part1_55.3791c130.2b6adaf1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My mother made me join when I was in high school... Lisa, LOL! Cripes, all I had to avoid was being inducted into the John Birch Society, as per the inclination of my stepfather, and the draft as per the inclination of my Uncle Sam. ][<en --part1_55.3791c130.2b6adaf1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">My mother made me join when I was in high school...</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Lisa,<BR> <BR> LOL! Cripes, all I had to avoid was being inducted into the John Birch Society, as per the inclination of my stepfather, and the draft as per the inclination of my Uncle Sam.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_55.3791c130.2b6adaf1_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:58:57 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_185.160fc5e6.2b6ade01_boundary" --part1_185.160fc5e6.2b6ade01_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I watched the entire process from the sidewalk and then from inside my house. Ilene, Not very pleasant at all. Fire is not nice. Neither is nice it to have a mess quite so close. Please keep us posted. I was reading this morning on the subway about Aldous Huxley's reaction to when his house burnt down with his accumulated life's work inside. The fire fighters had to restrain him from running in to save his manuscripts... and then later he made a front by telling the press that it relieved him to have a blank slate with which to start over. ][<en --part1_185.160fc5e6.2b6ade01_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I watched the entire process from the sidewalk and then from inside my house. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Ilene,<BR> <BR> Not very pleasant at all. Fire is not nice. Neither is nice it to have a mess quite so close. Please keep us posted.<BR> <BR> I was reading this morning on the subway about Aldous Huxley's reaction to when his house burnt down with his accumulated life's work inside. The fire fighters had to restrain him from running in to save his manuscripts... and then later he made a front by telling the press that it relieved him to have a blank slate with which to start over.<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_185.160fc5e6.2b6ade01_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:02:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Graffiti Improves the View (was the SheeHee thread) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_39.332a266a.2b6adeed_boundary" --part1_39.332a266a.2b6adeed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit love the "graffiti" that they paint and get angry whenever I'm not ranting... I was attending a little histo presto social educational session at one of our more illustrious historic houses in NYC. We were all huddled in a cozy brick basement kitchen with chairs and slides, warm on a cold night. One of the guest speakers, who turned out to be a friend of my famous artist friend, gave a presentation on his documentary study of graffitti art in the 70's - 80's, when it was REALLY blooming, particularly as it was practiced in the South Bronx. He was approaching the aesthetic from the grassroot social-art perspective (an urban voice fighting for survival), as well as the historical context -- a social art movement no longer active. The cultivated Greenwich Village dames present, who are forever dealing with their histo presto stoops getting tagged, wanted to lynch him then and there. A few things have changed in NYC -- Greenwich Village is where wealthy non-bohemians live, and the graffiti is not nearly as spontaneously interesting as it used to be. Transit installed car scrubbers to automate the graffiti removal, for one thing, and the business of anti-graffiti coatings has boomed. Now where there is graffiti it tends to be where there is so much poverty that nobody would ever think to remove it (particularly the memorials to kids that died from drugs or gang violence), or it occurs in places where it is encouraged. Across from our lot in Brooklyn the bus company has the entire wall, say 20' x 100' painted with an incredibly active mural... a few years ago they had it painted out and the original artists return and re-paint the wall. Now, this is hot & trendy Williamsburg, where all the young wannabe "artistes" of the city are congregating (what used to be Greenwich Village) and nearby to the prospersous Brooklyn Brewery. Art rules. It also subdues and forces out the natives, bohemian & otherwise, that can no longer afford the escalating rents. MFA land is what we get, probably not such a bad thing, excepting for the facade of "deep meaning" it imparts to a complex community of cultures overlaid on cultures, and all because of the technlogical proximity of a subway stop. Not too many years back people were still getting shot around here and now we have tourists looking for Thai food. The best graffiti to see for NYC may be in the movies, unless one is inclined to explore the outer boroughs... so in Vermont the viewing for graffiti may be a whole lot better than it is here. '][<en --part1_39.332a266a.2b6adeed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">love the "graffiti" that they paint and get angry whenever </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> I'm not ranting... I was attending a little histo presto social educational session at one of our more illustrious historic houses in NYC. We were all huddled in a cozy brick basement kitchen with chairs and slides, warm on a cold night. One of the guest speakers, who turned out to be a friend of my famous artist friend, gave a presentation on his documentary study of graffitti art in the 70's - 80's, when it was REALLY blooming, particularly as it was practiced in the South Bronx. He was approaching the aesthetic from the grassroot social-art perspective (an urban voice fighting for survival), as well as the historical context -- a social art movement no longer active. The cultivated Greenwich Village dames present, who are forever dealing with their histo presto stoops getting tagged, wanted to lynch him then and there. A few things have changed in NYC -- Greenwich Village is where wealthy non-bohemians live, and the graffiti is not nearly as spontaneously interesting as it used to be. <BR> <BR> Transit installed car scrubbers to automate the graffiti removal, for one thing, and the business of anti-graffiti coatings has boomed. Now where there is graffiti it tends to be where there is so much poverty that nobody would ever think to remove it (particularly the memorials to kids that died from drugs or gang violence), or it occurs in places where it is encouraged. Across from our lot in Brooklyn the bus company has the entire wall, say 20' x 100' painted with an incredibly active mural... a few years ago they had it painted out and the original artists return and re-paint the wall. <BR> <BR> Now, this is hot & trendy Williamsburg, where all the young wannabe "artistes" of the city are congregating (what used to be Greenwich Village) and nearby to the prospersous Brooklyn Brewery. Art rules. It also subdues and forces out the natives, bohemian & otherwise, that can no longer afford the escalating rents. MFA land is what we get, probably not such a bad thing, excepting for the facade of "deep meaning" it imparts to a complex community of cultures overlaid on cultures, and all because of the technlogical proximity of a subway stop. Not too many years back people were still getting shot around here and now we have tourists looking for Thai food.<BR> <BR> The best graffiti to see for NYC may be in the movies, unless one is inclined to explore the outer boroughs... so in Vermont the viewing for graffiti may be a whole lot better than it is here.<BR> <BR> '][<en</FONT></HTML> --part1_39.332a266a.2b6adeed_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:13:01 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Mark W. James" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Graffiti Improves the View (was the SheeHee thread) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1db.143ebe0.2b6ae14d_boundary" --part1_1db.143ebe0.2b6ae14d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2003 12:04:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The best graffiti to see for NYC may be in the movies, unless one is > inclined to explore the outer boroughs... I know that growing up in the West I was led to believe (through the media) that all subways had graffiti on the train cars. When in the DC area, I was shocked that there wasn't any. This leads me to believe that the cars must be stored somewhere at night where the artists cannot find them. Mark --part1_1db.143ebe0.2b6ae14d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/30/2003 12:04:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The best graffiti to see for NYC may be in the movies, unless one is inclined to explore the outer boroughs... </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> I know that growing up in the West I was led to believe (through the media) that all subways had graffiti on the train cars. When in the DC area, I was shocked that there wasn't any. This leads me to believe that the cars must be stored somewhere at night where the artists cannot find them.<BR> Mark</FONT></HTML> --part1_1db.143ebe0.2b6ae14d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:51:50 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2C8A9.CB4C7FD7" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C8A9.CB4C7FD7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water damage. He was in shock that first day, but is probably just plain angry by now, mostly because of the shoddy handling of the situation and general poor maintenance, always using the cheapest labor to accomplish the work. Hmmm. =20 =20 QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS=20 Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA=20 219 1/2 N. Main Street=20 Ann Arbor, MI 48104=20 [log in to unmask] www.quinnevans.com=20 v 734.663.5888=20 f 734.663.5044=20 -----Original Message----- From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:59 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns =09 =09 I watched the entire process from the sidewalk and then from inside my house.=20 =09 =09 Ilene, =09 Not very pleasant at all. Fire is not nice. Neither is nice it to have a mess quite so close. Please keep us posted. =09 I was reading this morning on the subway about Aldous Huxley's reaction to when his house burnt down with his accumulated life's work inside. The fire fighters had to restrain him from running in to save his manuscripts... and then later he made a front by telling the press that it relieved him to have a blank slate with which to start over. =09 ][<en=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C8A9.CB4C7FD7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D755504921-30012003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>A=20 musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water=20 damage. He was in shock that first day, but is probably just plain = angry=20 by now, mostly because of the shoddy handling of the situation and = general poor=20 maintenance, always using the cheapest labor to accomplish the = work. =20 Hmmm.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --><BR> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS</FONT> </P> <P><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA</FONT></B> </P> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>219 1/2 N. Main Street</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Ann Arbor, MI 48104</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>[log in to unmask]</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>www.quinnevans.com</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>v=20 734.663.5888</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>f = 734.663.5044</FONT> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ken = Follett=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 30, 2003 = 2:59=20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> = [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT=20 face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">I watched the entire process from the sidewalk = and then=20 from inside my house.=20 <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>Ilene,<BR><BR>Not very pleasant at all. Fire = is not=20 nice. Neither is nice it to have a mess quite so close. Please keep us = posted.<BR><BR>I was reading this morning on the subway about Aldous = Huxley's=20 reaction to when his house burnt down with his accumulated life's work = inside.=20 The fire fighters had to restrain him from running in to save his=20 manuscripts... and then later he made a front by telling the press = that it=20 relieved him to have a blank slate with which to start=20 over.<BR><BR>][<en</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> =00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C8A9.CB4C7FD7-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:06:50 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Heidi Harendza <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_18a.156b4e2e.2b6b0a0a_boundary" --part1_18a.156b4e2e.2b6b0a0a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:47:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's? > Are we talking just Empire style-- lots of Napoleonic bees and curves? 1820 should be about right on that. -Heidi --part1_18a.156b4e2e.2b6b0a0a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:47:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Are we talking just Empire style-- lots of Napoleonic bees and curves? 1820 should be about right on that.<BR> <BR> -Heidi</FONT></HTML> --part1_18a.156b4e2e.2b6b0a0a_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:13:15 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_194.146fc27a.2b6b0b8b_boundary" --part1_194.146fc27a.2b6b0b8b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:07:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >> Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's? >> > > > Are we talking just Empire style-- lots of Napoleonic bees and curves? 1820 > should be about right on that. > > -Heidi Heidi, Whoever it was (I'm now too old to remember so far back) specifically talked about the 2nd Empire style, which is why I'm being such a snot about it. 1820's seems to me a little late for the first Empire, even, but I suppose news traveled rather more slowly in the pre-internet days. Just wait til the future Little Heidis ask you what kind of computer you had when you were a little girl. I forgot-- you're so young, you probably DID have one. Ralph What, me crotchety? --part1_194.146fc27a.2b6b0b8b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:07:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Are we talking just Empire style-- lots of Napoleonic bees and curves? 1820 should be about right on that.<BR> <BR> -Heidi</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Heidi,<BR> <BR> Whoever it was (I'm now too old to remember so far back) specifically talked about the <U>2nd</U> Empire style, which is why I'm being such a snot about it. 1820's seems to me a little late for the first Empire, even, but I suppose news traveled rather more slowly in the pre-internet days.<BR> <BR> Just wait til the future Little Heidis ask you what kind of computer you had when you were a little girl. I forgot-- you're so young, you probably DID have one.<BR> <BR> Ralph<BR> <BR> What, me crotchety?<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_194.146fc27a.2b6b0b8b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:27:35 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Heidi Harendza <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_174.16127409.2b6b0ee7_boundary" --part1_174.16127409.2b6b0ee7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:13:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Just wait til the future Little Heidis ask you what kind of computer you had > when you were a little girl. I forgot-- you're so young, you probably DID > have one. > It was the golden age of computers. Radio Shack TRS 80, Atari with Space Invaders, programing in BASIC. I had my first computer at the end of high school, thank you very much-- my mom said it was money well spent, since she didn't feel it was necessary to help me type my papers anymore. (And just for Dan...) it was a cute little Mac. Much more sensible machine than this PC monster I have now. And heck, I didn't even need to own a computer. I dated all the geeks in college-- one gave me the password to the whole Penn State computer system once. I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber screens in the computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in the toilet. *sigh* Those were the days. -Heidi --part1_174.16127409.2b6b0ee7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:13:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Just wait til the future Little Heidis ask you what kind of computer you had when you were a little girl. I forgot-- you're so young, you probably DID have one.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> It was the golden age of computers. Radio Shack TRS 80, Atari with Space Invaders, programing in BASIC. I had my first computer at the end of high school, thank you very much-- my mom said it was money well spent, since she didn't feel it was necessary to help me type my papers anymore. (And just for Dan...) it was a cute little Mac. Much more sensible machine than this PC monster I have now.<BR> <BR> And heck, I didn't even need to own a computer. I dated all the geeks in college-- one gave me the password to the whole Penn State computer system once. I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber screens in the computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in the toilet. *sigh*<BR> <BR> Those were the days.<BR> <BR> -Heidi</FONT></HTML> --part1_174.16127409.2b6b0ee7_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:38:52 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_74.2a00acd3.2b6b118c_boundary" --part1_74.2a00acd3.2b6b118c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:28:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber screens in the > computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in the toilet. *sigh* > Perhaps further study would have been wise. Ralph --part1_74.2a00acd3.2b6b118c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:28:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber screens in the computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in the toilet. *sigh*<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Perhaps further study would have been wise. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_74.2a00acd3.2b6b118c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:52:53 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]> Subject: PCs & typewriters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6b.88a404f.2b6b30f5_boundary" --part1_6b.88a404f.2b6b30f5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/03 6:28:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > It was the golden age of computers. Radio Shack TRS 80, Atari with Space > Invaders, programing in BASIC. I had my first computer at the end of high > school When I was in my senior year of high school, my parents gave me a 1926 black Underwood typewriter. Even though it was an old one (not I might say, given because it was an antique) it worked pretty darn good. Electric typewriters were few and far between - none at all in the school classroom - we all learned on manuals ("Throw that carriage!") . The used Underwood was all they could afford and I was not only appreciative, but delighted! to have my very own typewriter. It served me well at the time, and I still have it. It now serves me as a bookend and sits right near my PC, fax, scanner etc. Candy --part1_6b.88a404f.2b6b30f5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/30/03 6:28:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It was the golden age of computers. Radio Shack TRS 80, Atari with Space Invaders, programing in BASIC. I had my first computer at the end of high school</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> When I was in my senior year of high school, my parents gave me a 1926 black Underwood typewriter. Even though it was an old one (not I might say, given because it was an antique) it worked pretty darn good. Electric typewriters were few and far between - none at all in the school classroom - we all learned on manuals ("Throw that carriage!") . The used Underwood was all they could afford and I was not only appreciative, but delighted! to have my very own typewriter. It served me well at the time, and I still have it. It now serves me as a bookend and sits right near my PC, fax, scanner etc. <BR> <BR> Candy</FONT></HTML> --part1_6b.88a404f.2b6b30f5_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:03:55 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: PCs & typewriters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ea.a67061.2b6b419b_boundary" --part1_1ea.a67061.2b6b419b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2003 8:53:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > When I was in my senior year of high school, my parents gave me a 1926 black > Underwood typewriter. Even though it was an old one (not I might say, > given because it was an antique) it worked pretty darn good. Electric > typewriters were few and far between - none at all in the school classroom > - we all learned on manuals ("Throw that carriage!") . The used Underwood > was all they could afford and I was not only appreciative, but delighted! > to have my very own typewriter. It served me well at the time, and I > still have it. It now serves me as a bookend and sits right near my PC, > fax, scanner etc. > As far as I'm concerned, the best thing about computers is that they function as an editing typewriter. Ralph --part1_1ea.a67061.2b6b419b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/30/2003 8:53:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">When I was in my senior year of high school, my parents gave me a 1926 black Underwood typewriter. Even though it was an old one (not I might say, given because it was an antique) it worked pretty darn good. Electric typewriters were few and far between - none at all in the school classroom - we all learned on manuals ("Throw that carriage!") . The used Underwood was all they could afford and I was not only appreciative, but delighted! to have my very own typewriter. It served me well at the time, and I still have it. It now serves me as a bookend and sits right near my PC, fax, scanner etc. <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> As far as I'm concerned, the best thing about computers is that they function as an editing typewriter.<BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_1ea.a67061.2b6b419b_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:23:29 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e3.c6e48e.2b6b4631_boundary" --part1_1e3.c6e48e.2b6b4631_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2003 4:54:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water > damage. Dan thinks it serves herhim right, heeshee should have had a Mac. --part1_1e3.c6e48e.2b6b4631_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/30/2003 4:54:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water damage.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Dan thinks it serves herhim right, heeshee should have had a Mac. </FONT></HTML> --part1_1e3.c6e48e.2b6b4631_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:28:25 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_95.29588681.2b6b4759_boundary" --part1_95.29588681.2b6b4759_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2003 10:24:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > >> A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water >> damage. > > Dan thinks it serves herhim right, heeshee should have had a Mac. Hell, yes. Everybody knows Macs are watertight, impact resistant, and everything good that PC's aren't. Ralph --part1_95.29588681.2b6b4759_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/30/2003 10:24:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water damage.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Dan thinks it serves herhim right, heeshee should have had a Mac. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Hell, yes. Everybody knows Macs are watertight, impact resistant, and everything good that PC's aren't. <BR> <BR> Ralph</FONT></HTML> --part1_95.29588681.2b6b4759_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:28:19 EST Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: See, this is what all this water-cooler talk gets us!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_104.26101d94.2b6b4753_boundary" --part1_104.26101d94.2b6b4753_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<Tomas Lipps <[log in to unmask]> has just signed off the BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS list ("Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit).>>> Sign me, Empirialist Pig --part1_104.26101d94.2b6b4753_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><<<Tomas Lipps <[log in to unmask]> has just signed off the<BR> BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS list ("Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en<BR> Phollit).>>><BR> <BR> Sign me, Empirialist Pig</FONT></HTML> --part1_104.26101d94.2b6b4753_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:29:41 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Deb Bledsoe <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... be a Ladie and Progress MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2C8D8.FD89E8C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2C8D8.FD89E8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ralph Walter=20 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... In that context, Mac referred to the computers made by Apple of = Cupertino, CA. Talk about PC-centrics. And no, I am not aware of = sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and soon to be of = the Garden State kindly enlighten=20 well, I thought there was a message that contained "MAC" as some sort of = acronym... I guess I dreamed it? =20 ::deb searches archive:: Ok here it was.... >> "What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club equivalent"<< now, that is not exactly clear, as to being in reference to _Macs_ , so = please don't think I have any animosity or bias against Macs or Mac = users -- quite the contrary; I just didn't get it.... ***** ralph, obviously you have not done your research online before allowing = your children to venture out into the wild wild west of the information = highway.... or you'd know sheehees are men endowed with womanly = attributes, or maybe women endowed with manly attributes, I'm not = entirely sure; it just gets pretty crazy from there.... cruising around on porn sites and newsgroups was quite the eyepopper for = me, but I figured if I were going to be able to talk to the young'uns = about the subject at my advanced age, I'd better know from whence I = spoke.... lisa, I thought my grandmother and great aunt would disown me when I = declined to join DAR and Eastern Star... the ladies of the family go = back, wayyyy back, on both sides of both sides, but that and $ .79 got = me a cup of coffee in my advanced tomboy state as a Young Ladie trying = to progress.... NAWIC brought me much further along in my formative = years -- the geneology info was/is interesting though.... and I have been lurking in the corner, reading the copious mortar and = lime messages from the archives when I have time, VALiantly struggling = to master all the terms and projects out east here, so I won't sound = like a complete ( !! ) rube when I speak with customers... out of my = midwestern element, I've been feeling kinda shy and not much to say... = specially about things like may december trans-hemisphere relationships, = and red shoes, and la-la-la... for once I've had to be serious and studious about the business, the = Really Cool projects I'm having the opportunity to work on, and about = the political efforts I am involved with ... (places I hold dear, are under attack from all quarters these days, both = in the political and private sectors) ralph, here's hoping your medical situation goes well; keep us posted? cp in bc, keep your chin up, don't let the bastards get you down... pyrate, WHAT the heck are you doing wit dem bones? you're provoking = savannah steve... but it sure sounds cool anyway... how many folks can = say they see hoops and silver on their jobs?? everybody, keep dodging that falling limestone, or cows, or whatever = your days bring you ;) deborah, as I'm now known in NY, late of OH10, recently of brooklyn, and = as ralph mentioned, soon to be living in the wilds of NJ ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2C8D8.FD89E8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph=20 Walter</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:00 AM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In that context, Mac referred to the computers = made by=20 Apple of Cupertino, CA. Talk about PC-centrics. And no, I = am not=20 aware of sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and = soon to be=20 of the Garden State kindly enlighten=20 </FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>well, I thought there was a message = that contained=20 "MAC" as some sort of acronym...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess I dreamed it? = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>::deb searches archive::</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok here it was....</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>> "What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club=20 equivalent"<<</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>now, that is not exactly clear, as to being in = reference to=20 _Macs_ , so please don't think I have any animosity or bias against Macs = or Mac=20 users -- quite the contrary; I just didn't get it....</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>*****</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>ralph, obviously you have not done your research = online before=20 allowing your children to venture out into the wild wild west of the = information=20 highway.... or you'd know sheehees are men endowed with = womanly=20 attributes, or maybe women endowed with manly attributes, I'm not = entirely sure;=20 it just gets pretty crazy from there....</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>cruising around on porn sites and newsgroups was = quite the=20 eyepopper for me, but I figured if I were going to be able to talk to = the=20 young'uns about the subject at my advanced age, I'd better know from = whence I=20 spoke....</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>lisa, I thought my grandmother and great aunt would = disown me=20 when I declined to join DAR and Eastern Star... the ladies of the = family=20 go back, wayyyy back, on both sides of both sides, but that and $ .79 = got me a=20 cup of coffee in my advanced tomboy state as a Young Ladie trying to=20 progress.... NAWIC brought me much further along in my formative years=20 --</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>the geneology info was/is interesting = though....</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>and I have been lurking in the corner, reading the = copious=20 mortar and lime messages from the archives when I have time, VALiantly=20 struggling to master all the terms and projects out east here, so I = won't sound=20 like a complete ( !! ) rube when I speak with customers... = out of my=20 midwestern element, I've been feeling kinda shy and not much to say... = specially=20 about things like may december trans-hemisphere relationships, and red = shoes,=20 and la-la-la...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>for once I've had to be serious and studious about = the=20 business, the Really Cool projects I'm having the opportunity to work = on, and=20 about the political efforts I am involved with ...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>(places I hold dear, are under attack from all = quarters these=20 days, both in the political and private sectors)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>ralph, here's hoping your medical situation goes = well; keep us=20 posted?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>cp in bc, keep your chin up, don't let the bastards = get you=20 down...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>pyrate, WHAT the heck are you doing wit dem bones? = you're=20 provoking savannah steve... but it sure sounds cool anyway... how many = folks can=20 say they see hoops and silver on their jobs??</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>everybody, keep dodging that falling limestone, or = cows, or=20 whatever your days bring you ;)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>deborah, as I'm now known in NY, late of OH10, = recently of=20 brooklyn, and as ralph mentioned, soon to be living in the wilds of = NJ</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2C8D8.FD89E8C0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:47:08 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Kinda makes me wish I was out there so I could join ya, even though I know it's no warmer there than it is here. Ruth At 3:54 PM -0500 1/29/03, Ilene R. Tyler wrote: >We have a wonderful group, known locally as the "Preservation Ladies" >for perceived historical reasons. We meet once a month for lunch and >discussion. Most are graduates of the EMU HP program, plus a few like >me who did not. We have become a force to be reckoned with once riled, >and it's great networking with a bunch of people with preservation being >the common thread. A couple men are on the invite list, but they rarely >come; it really is just us Ladies. > > >QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS > >Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA > >219 1/2 N. Main Street >Ann Arbor, MI 48104 >[log in to unmask] >www.quinnevans.com >v 734.663.5888 >f 734.663.5044 -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:22:54 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Grafitti is in the eye of the beholder In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ralph, You apparently don't really like that sort of art. I find it attractive and have found lots of uglier stuff hung on walls in fancy homes and offices. Ruth At 9:51 AM -0500 1/30/03, Ralph Walter wrote: In a message dated 1/29/2003 7:18:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: These people are real artists and do what they can to make things like dull train cars and plywood temporary walls more attractive. Ralph, Yeah, and you probably think all those leaves are pretty in the fall too. Having been here in lovely NY when the subway cars were all graffitied, and seeing graffiti spread to freeway bridges in LA, it ain't so attractive. Kinda like dogs peeing on everything, only you can see it forever. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:03:46 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: or, 1.5 cents a word.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry, I don't think I'd be much help, I'm still mourning the loss of the Boston Braves. Ruth, who thought for years she was named after Babe At 2:53 PM -0500 1/29/03, Met History wrote: Cross-posted from H-Urban... From: Steven A Riess <[log in to unmask]> I have been invited by a major publisher to edit a 600,000 word Encyclopedia of Major League Baseball Teams. This two-volume reference work is intended to fill a significant gap in the reference field. While there are encyclopedias of individual baseball teams, this work will consist of essays detailing the history of all the current thirty major league teams. The intent is for the articles to be scholarly, analytical narratives that go beyond the recounting of team glories year by year. My aim is to have essays written that not only recount each team's annual campaigns, their players, and managers, but also provide a social and economic history of each club. I do not expect these to works of original research. I'm pretty sure nearly everything one would need to fulfill the assignment is available in secondary sources. I am looking for essays that contextualize team histories in the broader picture of sport and the development of their histories. I am looking for essays that not only examine the teams' performance on the field, but off the field as well. The essays will deal in depth with the teams as urban business enterprises that deal with labor issues, local governments and politicians, and such major economic matters as the construction of ballparks. Hence an essay on the White Sox will examine Comiskey's development of his early ballparks, and will also consider how current owners of the team secured public financing of the ballpark. In fact, a major issue for the essays since the 1950s would be the evolving relationship between teams and cities as owners moved or threatened to move franchises to secure financial support from local governments. I also hope contributors will consider the particularistic relationship of a team to their hometowns. This letter is being sent to baseball experts in NASSH, who comprise a core, but certainly not all baseball scholars. While this project is intellectually a feasible and significant project, there are practical considerations. I am looking to you for some input as to viability. We know there are a sufficient number of experts to undertake the project, but there are practical considerations, namely time and money. I am indicating below the approximate length of contributions as I envision them, along with compensation. The compensation will include a stipend and a copy of the two volume work (the encyclopedia will sell for $150 a volume). The stipends vary depending on the length of the contribution. Stipends for the longer entries are real money, however, the cash compensation is certainly far below what each author's input should merit if I had an unlimited budget. The publisher has budgeted $10,000 for the thirty entries and $10,000 for visual materials. The author's sole responsibility is to complete a first-rate essay. All editorial work, including indexing will be done by the publisher. It would certainly be possible for authors to split assignments, especially for teams like the Braves that have moved a lot. I am not asking anyone to commit themselves to the project, but frankly am looking for interest or lack of interest. Please contact me if you are potentially interested. Please contact me if you are not interested and let me know why. Steve Riess Northeastern Illinois University -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:06:11 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2C929.87410954" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C929.87410954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hard copy paper is what he lost. I don't know about his computer preferences. I saw his old record album collection, still in its cabinet. I told him to get those out and separated to make sure there is no mold or sticking between the paper covers. Even though the place is dry now, there is probaby so much moisture saturating anthing that was in there during the firefighting, a more conservation/conservative approach was my advice. =20 =20 QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS=20 Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA=20 219 1/2 N. Main Street=20 Ann Arbor, MI 48104=20 [log in to unmask] www.quinnevans.com=20 v 734.663.5888=20 f 734.663.5044=20 -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Walter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:28 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns =09 =09 In a message dated 1/30/2003 10:24:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: =09 =09 A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water damage. Dan thinks it serves herhim right, heeshee should have had a Mac. =20 =09 =09 Hell, yes. Everybody knows Macs are watertight, impact resistant, and everything good that PC's aren't. =20 =09 Ralph=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C929.87410954 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D262220313-31012003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Hard=20 copy paper is what he lost. I don't know about his computer=20 preferences. I saw his old record album collection, still in its=20 cabinet. I told him to get those out and separated to make sure = there is=20 no mold or sticking between the paper covers. Even though the = place is dry=20 now, there is probaby so much moisture saturating anthing that was in = there=20 during the firefighting, a more conservation/conservative approach was = my=20 advice.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --><BR> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS</FONT> </P> <P><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA</FONT></B> </P> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>219 1/2 N. Main Street</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Ann Arbor, MI 48104</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>[log in to unmask]</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>www.quinnevans.com</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>v=20 734.663.5888</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>f = 734.663.5044</FONT> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = Ralph Walter=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 30, 2003 = 10:28=20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> = [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT=20 face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a=20 message dated 1/30/2003 10:24:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE"> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff = 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his = manuscripts=20 to water damage.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Dan thinks it serves herhim = right,=20 heeshee should have had a Mac. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT = lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3Darial color=3D#000000 = size=3D3=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Hell, yes. Everybody knows Macs are = watertight,=20 impact resistant, and everything good that PC's aren't. =20 <BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> =00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C929.87410954-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:32:19 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7502C21A59C7226ED83BF258" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7502C21A59C7226ED83BF258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ONE GENERATION GOT OLD ONE GENERATION GOT SOUL THIS GENERATION GOT NO DESTINATION TO HOLD PICK UP THE CRY --------------7502C21A59C7226ED83BF258 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------7502C21A59C7226ED83BF258-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:05:53 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit=20 > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf=20 > Of Ralph Walter > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:28 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns >=20 >=20 > >In a message dated 1/30/2003 10:24:16 PM Eastern Standard=20 > >Time, [log in to unmask] writes: >=20 >=20 > >>A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his=20 > >>manuscripts to water damage. >=20 >=20 > >Dan thinks it serves herhim right, heeshee should have had a Mac. =20 >=20 >=20 > Hell, yes. Everybody knows Macs are watertight, impact=20 > resistant, and everything good that PC's aren't. =20 Properly configured, they would have put the fire out. What do you think the Firewire port they invented is for? _____________________________________________________ Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Conformists die, but Raleigh Historic heretics live on forever" Districts Commission -- Elbert Hubbard [log in to unmask] =20 919/890-3678 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:21:12 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: EDGE Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------46093BD0229C3EF44239C708" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------46093BD0229C3EF44239C708 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1E955A82F120C9122F18C3D3" --------------1E955A82F120C9122F18C3D3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heidi Harendza wrote: > And heck, I didn't even need to own a computer. I dated all the geeks > in college-- one gave me the password to the whole Penn State computer > system once. I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber > screens in the computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in > the toilet. *sigh* > > Those were the days. > > -Heidi remember dealing with a prereq course in programming by visiting, late one friday night, the comp lab w/ a case of coors, a bag of tacos and a nickel bag of unnamed substance- found a couple guys more than willing to write my program in cobalt???? who were a- appalled at the thought of someone like me sullying their holy environs, b- not willing to give me my allotted time share & c- more than happy to compete w/ each other to complete the assingment as the guy who finsihed first got the baggie... DD --------------1E955A82F120C9122F18C3D3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <p>Heidi Harendza wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>And heck, I didn't even need to own a computer. I dated all the geeks in college-- one gave me the password to the whole Penn State computer system once. I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber screens in the computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in the toilet. *sigh*</font></font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Those were the days.</font></font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>-Heidi</font></font></font></blockquote> remember dealing with a prereq course in programming by visiting, late one friday night, the comp lab w/ a case of coors, a bag of tacos and a nickel bag of unnamed substance- <br>found a couple guys more than willing to write my program in cobalt???? <br>who were a- appalled at the thought of someone like me sullying their holy environs, b- not willing to give me my allotted time share & c- more than happy to compete w/ each other to complete the assingment as the guy who finsihed first got the baggie... <p>DD</html> --------------1E955A82F120C9122F18C3D3-- --------------46093BD0229C3EF44239C708 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ddedge.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.A. Drew Diaz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ddedge.vcf" begin:vcard n:Diaz;J.A. Drew tel;cell:917.971.1577 tel;fax:212.741.7423 tel;work:212.741.7348 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://edgedc.com/ org:EDGE Development Construction version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 1205=0D=0A150 W 28th St;NY;NY;10001;http://edgedc.com/ note;quoted-printable:It's a heck of a world when an all American boy =0D=0Acan't carry a pocketknife.=0D=0A fn:Drew Diaz end:vcard --------------46093BD0229C3EF44239C708-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:37:00 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--848172484 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-19--848172484 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I think the fire fighting features were removed as part of the deal for the loan from Evil Bill a few years back. That's where the rainbow color went too. But I still say, "cut me, do I not bleed rainbow?" My powerbook 3400 will soon join the Quadra, the Color Classic, the Newton, the Classic II and the Original Mac 128 (upgraded to a 512KE), in the basement. Its sad. Kind of like a family tomb. I saw a Lisa in a pile of junk in a building in need of the special ministering of those dudes in the white space suits. Now THAT's sad! (That ought to separate the nubile youngsters from the old folks who remember the band before Wings.) -jc On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Becker, Dan wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf >> Of Ralph Walter >> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:28 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns >> >> >>> In a message dated 1/30/2003 10:24:16 PM Eastern Standard >>> Time, [log in to unmask] writes: >> >> >>>> A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his >>>> manuscripts to water damage. >> >> >>> Dan thinks it serves herhim right, heeshee should have had a Mac. >> >> >> Hell, yes. Everybody knows Macs are watertight, impact >> resistant, and everything good that PC's aren't. > > Properly configured, they would have put the fire out. What do you > think > the Firewire port they invented is for? > > _____________________________________________________ > Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Conformists die, but > Raleigh Historic heretics live on forever" > Districts Commission -- Elbert Hubbard > [log in to unmask] > 919/890-3678 > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > --Apple-Mail-19--848172484 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0644; name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Callan\,AIA;John;;;=0D FN:John Callan\,AIA=0D ORG:John Callan\,Architect\,Inc.;=0D TITLE:Principal Architect=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:[log in to unmask] EMAIL;type=3DWORK:[log in to unmask] TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL:(651) 486-7579=0D TEL;type=3DFAX:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:(612) 817-1176=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;784 Deerwood Circle;Lino = Lakes;MN;55014-5433;United States=0D NOTE:Historic Preservation and Museum Services\nSusan=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:johncallanaia=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK:johncallanaia1=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-19--848172484 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-19--848172484-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:43:00 -0500 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I wondered if "The Cry" was specified so I looked up the full lyric (from http://www.purelyrics.com/index.php ): Jefferson Airplane Volunteers (1969) Volunteers Look what's happening out in the streets Got a revolution Got to revolution Hey I'm dancing down the streets Got a revolution Got to revolution Ain't it amazing all the people I meet Got a revolution Got to revolution One generation got old One generation got soul This generation got no destination to hold Pick up the cry Hey now it's time for you and me Got a revolution Got to revolution Come on now we're marching to the sea Got a revolution Got to revolution Who will take it from you We will and who are we We are volunteers of America -----Original Message----- From: J.A. Drew Diaz [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:32 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies ONE GENERATION GOT OLD ONE GENERATION GOT SOUL THIS GENERATION GOT NO DESTINATION TO HOLD PICK UP THE CRY -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:05:24 -0600 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-21--824868078 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) --Apple-Mail-21--824868078 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed One of them songs I knew...and did not know. Guess I was in the basement at the time. -jc On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Bruce Marcham wrote: > I wondered if "The Cry" was specified so I looked up the full lyric > (from > http://www.purelyrics.com/index.php ): > > > Jefferson Airplane > Volunteers (1969) > Volunteers > > Look what's happening out in the streets > Got a revolution Got to revolution > Hey I'm dancing down the streets > Got a revolution Got to revolution > Ain't it amazing all the people I meet > Got a revolution Got to revolution > One generation got old > One generation got soul > This generation got no destination to hold > Pick up the cry > Hey now it's time for you and me > Got a revolution Got to revolution > Come on now we're marching to the sea > Got a revolution Got to revolution > Who will take it from you > We will and who are we > We are volunteers of America > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: J.A. Drew Diaz [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:32 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies > > > ONE GENERATION GOT OLD > ONE GENERATION GOT SOUL > THIS GENERATION GOT NO DESTINATION TO HOLD > PICK UP THE CRY > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > --Apple-Mail-21--824868078 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0644; name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Callan\,AIA;John;;;=0D FN:John Callan\,AIA=0D ORG:John Callan\,Architect\,Inc.;=0D TITLE:Principal Architect=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:[log in to unmask] EMAIL;type=3DWORK:[log in to unmask] TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL:(651) 486-7579=0D TEL;type=3DFAX:(651) 486-0890=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:(612) 817-1176=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;784 Deerwood Circle;Lino = Lakes;MN;55014-5433;United States=0D NOTE:Historic Preservation and Museum Services\nSusan=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:johncallanaia=0D X-AIM;type=3DWORK:johncallanaia1=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-21--824868078 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-21--824868078-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:55:50 -0800 Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit" <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well folks, guess it's a song of the city, don't make no sense to me aaatall. Ruth At 5:05 PM -0600 1/31/03, John Callan wrote: >One of them songs I knew...and did not know. Guess I was in the >basement at the time. > >-jc > >On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Bruce Marcham wrote: > >> I wondered if "The Cry" was specified so I looked up the full lyric >> (from >> http://www.purelyrics.com/index.php ): >> >> >> Jefferson Airplane >> Volunteers (1969) >> Volunteers >> >> Look what's happening out in the streets >> Got a revolution Got to revolution >> Hey I'm dancing down the streets >> Got a revolution Got to revolution >> Ain't it amazing all the people I meet >> Got a revolution Got to revolution >> One generation got old >> One generation got soul >> This generation got no destination to hold >> Pick up the cry >> Hey now it's time for you and me >> Got a revolution Got to revolution >> Come on now we're marching to the sea >> Got a revolution Got to revolution >> Who will take it from you >> We will and who are we >> We are volunteers of America >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: J.A. Drew Diaz [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:32 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies >> >> >> ONE GENERATION GOT OLD >> ONE GENERATION GOT SOUL >> THIS GENERATION GOT NO DESTINATION TO HOLD >> PICK UP THE CRY >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >> >> > >Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="John Callan, AIA.vcf" >Content-Type: text/directory; > x-unix-mode=0644; > name="John Callan, AIA.vcf" > >Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:John Callan, AIA.vcf 9 (TEXT/ttxt) >(0010CC66) -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Westminster, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>