On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:03:57 -0600 Carrol Cox <[log in to unmask]> writes: (snip) or should i say snipe? into which this seems to be degrading.... >......Moreover, what Dobkin is urging is that no one who didn't earn an A > in freshman comp has a right to a poitical opinion. hmmm my impression from having read his posts is that he was simply saying that it is "...dishonest (as well as damned lazy!) ...to pass off somebody else's letter, word-for-word, as (one's) own." (i would say that this constitutes plagiarism according to the rules of the "elitist" community college where i work) and that he found the practice, as well as lying in general, reprehensible. i didn't see any reference in dobkin's emails to anything about anyone not having any right to their own opinion. he seemed to be encouraging truthfulness and honesty. he seems to be saying that we don't have a right to other people's opinions? is "He ...peddling elitist horseshit..." by saying that it's wrong to lie and that we should think for ourselves? perhaps you, citizen cox, have some other information about dobkin, have some history of conversation/dialogue, have something else upon which to pass your judgement: > But Dobkin really fits that category. For him, politics are not about changing the > world but merely expressing one's own moral and intellectual righteousness. > > Carrol Cox but i certainly think this is an unfair misinterpretation of the last two posts from dobkin that i saw on this email list. my impression is that being truthful and honest, and encouraging and supporting others to be also, will do much more for changing the world than mass mailing someone else's letters to the editor. can you even imagine how different the world would be if we were all truthful, all the time; how liberating this would be? talk about changing the world! respectfully joey ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com