Hi Butch. Thanks for that. I will be hopefully getting a chance to lay my grubby little hands on both of them, but I will probably end up with the kenwood, I just don't know when. With my luck, by the time I get one, there will be something newer and better and cheaper and all of that stuff! GRIN! 73: John ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com