YOu might be referring to the Third CHimpanzee. He has several others as well. but i think i recall reading that book in addition to guns germs and steel. i have a hard tiem with his writing style, but he has intersting things to say. darcey We cannot claim to be taking our species and our planet seriously until we acknowledge that a million years is a proper unit of political time. --Colin Tudge "The time before history" Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. -- Goethe http://www.angelfire.com/az3/bluewindsong _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com