The "palistinans" were arabs that were thrown out of jordan. They did not even exist anymore than the modern state of isreal. Sorry for the bluntnest but this poor palistienan nation is pure bull shit. There was no palitinians before 1949. they were jordaniens radicals. And the king of jordan ran them out. I dare any one of you to find a map of the past that sjows anthing more than the "palistine" region of the middle east that was made of of many many countries. The reason for the middle east problem is that the arabs can not stand the fact that ireal even exist and the are using the palistinean people bull as a rouse to fight with isreal. They have attacted isreal many times from the very formation of the jewish homeland. The same resolution that eastblished isreal also gave a section of land for the jordaian refugees. They did not want it. The arabs attact isreal and gets their buts kiked every time. And I'll add if they attact them again they will get another butt kicking even if they do it with their russian friends. -----Original Message----- From: Magenta Raine [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:51 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Hi there!!! (Asbestos anyone?) Mike, it's true. The Jews took land in Israel away from people who had been there hundreds of years. It was sort of like the native American were booted out by the Europeans. However, it's also true that the Palestinians refused to go along with the Jews' plans for a dual government. However this whole war camps situation is a shameful thing, and was the reason my sister recently went to Bethlehem to meet with peace groups there. It was interesting, as the Mennonites and Quakers were the most active groups there, seeking to help the Palestinians. my nephew was with my sister and took photos. Pictures really do speak volumes. one picture that still lies emblazoned in my brain, is of the Palestinian clinic which was bombed to bits. The only doctor for that area was shot in the back, as he was getting into an ambulance to help somebody. You understand of course, that as a despised people, the Jews had very few places they could go. Even the US put limitations on how many could come to the States. sigh...................... I'm afraid that the religious zealots on both sides have forgotten their humanity. The behavior of the Settlers makes me ashamed to be a Jew. Mag ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you use Ebay to shop online, you can shop Ebay from my website! www.itilink.com/traine.iti