very little is done manually any more beth, it is going to be hard to get public sympathy for them at their pay rate. and especially calif, there is not much time that ice burgs come into the harbor. they can work on most days. -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth H. Thiers To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 10/30/2002 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Dockworkers' Strike I may be wrong but, that's only if they are at the highest skill level (eg. crane operators) and are able to work all year long which apparently in this spot they aren't able to. I'm torn, I just wish the hard heads on either side get a grip. Beth T. Subject: Re: Dockworkers' Strike these guys are making 80-100000 dollars a year. i'd like to starve on their salary. -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Salkin To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 10/29/2002 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Dockworkers' Strike All I know is some of our products have been languishing on the docks and we've been losing big bucks in overseas sales. I've never been pro-union and I'm less so now. Strikes accomplish nothing now except higher costs and prices and bad feelings. Higher pay and more job security? Not bloody likely in present-day economic conditions. I say call the Guard in. Sorry if I sound hard-hearted but I think while unions had their uses in the early part of this century and helped workers to improve the conditions, etc., government agencies such as OSHA have taken on that role, and unions don't accomplish much, practically speaking. Kat On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:24:11 -0500 "Cleveland, Kyle E." <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > This just came down the wire from STRATFOR. I > would hate to think of the > possibility of National Guard troops knocking > heads or busting caps if the > longshoremen don't come to the table on this > one. Anybody know the inside > scoop (not CNN's version) on this?: