and i will not go there on universal sufferage in return. -----Original Message----- From: Deri James To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 10/23/2002 8:17 PM Subject: Re: another shooting On Wednesday 23 Oct 2002 6:09 pm, you wrote: > You know the founding fathers had a reason for the firearms clause in the > 2nd amendment. It was not to protect the rights of people to have a gun to > hunt, it was not even to protect the right to have a gun to protect > yourself from criminals (even though these are legitimate uses for guns) it > was put that so that the populance would have guns to protect themselves > from,,,, GOVERNMENT.... OUR FOUNDING FATHERS assumed that a well armed > populance would overthrow a government that got too oppressive. > > Amazing what you learen reading the writing of the founders, is it any > surprize that an opressive government either limits what you can read or in > our case see to it that most people do not learn to read. > I'd have thought universal suffrage was the best defense against oppressive government. Arming the populace seems to me to be an excellent recipe to empower extremist groups. I shan't even get onto the negative aspects of having a written constitution in the first place. ;-) Cheers Deri