I'm afraid I keep returning to Norton (sigh) mainly because, annoying as it is, it's still a good allround AntiV prog. A new prog called AVK from GData (NOT AVP, NOT AVG!) has had some good raps but I don't like the GUI and it's not the most user-friendly I've tried. However, the Uni of Hamburg rated it tops of 21 different progs in a recent test. Norton was 7th equal. Ian Porter Computer Guys Inc. Arrowtown New Zealand [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark doll" <Subject: [PCSOFT] game crashes/problem solved > the reason my game( Nascar 2002 ) was crashing to the > task bar was caused by my virus protection, which was > Mcafee.This also cleared up other problems I was > having,computer locking up, scan disk freezing, > computer not shutting down completely. > I contacted Mcafee and I got there usual response > which is uninstall and reinstall. > can anyone recommend a good virus proctection? PCSOFT maintains many useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml