Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Mike, It isn't that there aren't protocols, the internet is full of them it is that one has to get the industry to agree on which to use and how to set them up so they work on ATMs. Then you gotta get the blindness industry to agree to the same ideas and implement it all. It takes political power and the knowhow to use it and the will to push push push Were it to be done, I'd strongly support the use of infrared communications. It would solve the hardware connector problems completely and not add signifficantly to the protocol problems. tom Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. To join or leave the list, send a message to [log in to unmask] In the body of the message, simply type "subscribe vicug-l" or "unsubscribe vicug-l" without the quotations. VICUG-L is archived on the World Wide Web at http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html