acually i always though the "red eye" was refering to the fact that the coffee does not mix with the heavy grease(at least in my dad's version) and formed a pol in the middle of the gravy and it had a reddish look from some of the spices mixed with the coffee. i assumed the look of the eye, i never ask. bacon greease made the best. and yes, you look away for a minute you can burn this stuff. oh you shoulda saw my first and only attemp to make gravy. lumpy is not the word for it. -----Original Message----- From: Cleveland, Kyle E. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:43 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Happy Father's Day Ok, well y'all correct me if I'm wrong on these, 'cause it's a bit different depending on what part of the South we're talking about. Red-eye gravy is usually a white gravy made from bacon grease, white flour and coffee. I don't know if the "red eye" comes from the flecks of bacon in the sauce, or the fact that the coffee cures the "red eyes" of morning sleepiness. Sawmill gravy is a white gravy made from seasoned pork sausage and white flour. My personal fave is a white gravy made with bacon fat, NO coffee, and highly seasoned with salt and black pepper. There's a bit of a trick to making these gravies, as there is no corn starch base for an emulsifier. You have to be good with a whisk or fork and apply just the right heat--too hot will burn the gravy, too cold and the flour will not be evenly distributed, creating lumps. Being pretty much all gentile, the pork issue does not present a cultural/religious problem for me. Others' mileage may vary. -Kyle -----Original Message----- From: Barber, Kenneth L. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:33 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Happy Father's Day i think mag is wanting you to tell her what it is, kyle. -----Original Message----- From: Cleveland, Kyle E. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:07 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Happy Father's Day Food of the white-trash gods, my dear mags. Veritable ambrosia for the double-wide set! I like it thick, I like it thin, I ESPECIALLY like it on top.....of biscuits! -----Original Message----- From: Magenta Raine [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:21 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Happy Father's Day Red eye gravy? Sawmill gravy? this sounds like it's awful gritty! ;-(/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We carry Wire-a-cake, Windsor Vineyards, Mrs. Field's, Harry & David, David's Cookies, and other fine food, as well as Tea and beverage stores. Check out this week's specials. www.itilink.com/traine.iti