never with sugar? possibile but with ketchup? that draws the line with me. My mom is from Oklahoma. we've had them with sugar and butter. I never liked butter on mine. What a cultural range of preferences of one type of food. "Long ago and far away we had a point you know that we had to make, we won't live for yesterday, ready or not we're going to have our way" Twisted Sister Wake Up (the sleeping giant)