Malcolm X also used by all means necessary so i suspect what Joe meant was by all means legally available - correct me Joe if I am wrong.
I personally deplore and strongly condemn suicide bombers because as muslims ( if they claim they really are) we believe as taught in all the three Abraham religions also , you will go to internal hell if you commit suicide plus worst still kill innocent people in the process (except in self defense-which does not apply to the suicide bombers anyway)
Now having said that the premise of the whole dispute is injustice , military advantage, zionism and racism . Buharry just sent an excellent explanation of the history and who caused this crisis yet the real victims( palestinians) are still suffering not only unfair deaths but humiliation and aggression by the IDF and it's surrogates the US .
I believe fighting back is right but on equal terms not one with a stone or riffles and the other with apaches and missiles etc. The solution lies in kofi Anan's recent plea for an international peace observers and independent forces. I feel bad for the innocent Israelis who lost their lives too .. Violence and military might does not solve the problem it is only with negotiations and sitting with the two devils Sharon and Arafat who have brought this present conflict to a PERSONAL basis without regard for their people whom they claim to represent.
Enough is enough
Sharon just got away with another genocide in Jenin right under the eyes of the whole world. and would not let even US reporters in until he buried the evidence and transported many of the bodies out to the desert for an undercover operation. It will come out one day and soon His day is coming and God will get him
HDG
>From: Ngorr Ciise <
[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <
[log in to unmask]>
>To:
[log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: George W. Sadat
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 17:58:03 +0000
>
>In response to Sambou,
>
>Sambou: <
>planted. I
>think we, in the comfort of our peaceful environments should really
>pause
>for a minute and try to put ourselves in the daily livings of a
>people under
>siege and no hope for any future. Is Nelson Mandela and the ANC
>"Terrorist"? Was'nt their defense against Apartheid done by "Any
>Means
>Necessary"?>>
>
>The question becomes: did Nelson Mandela ever send out teenage
>African girls
>on suicide bombing missions - i mean premeditated murders on
>civilian
>targets, which included pregnant women, babies, children and the
>vulnerable
>who have little or no say in the direction and implementation of
>Apartheid?
>Supposing you are a Palestinian under seige by the IDF in the
>Occupied
>Terrorities. Further, let it also be assumed that you have a 17
>year-old
>daugther. Are you saying that in the name of freeing yourself from
>Israeli
>subjugation you are willing to let your teenage daugther "matyred"
>as a
>suicide bomber to go into Israel and engage in an act that equates
>with the
>premeditated murder of innocent Israelis who have little or no say
>in the
>direction of the current crisis? Are you saying - in extremis - that
>it
>might OK one day for Gambian teenagers to be exhorted by the
>Opposition to
>become suicide bombers in the event that Yaya resorts to what Sharon
>is
>currently engaged in? You need to clarify youself.
>
>Suicide bombing, regardless of how one wishes to slice/explain the
>rationale
>behind it, is barbaric, uncivilised and cowardly. Each suicide
>bomber that
>goes out and target the civilian populace in Israel goes a long in
>morally
>undermining the Palestinian cause - a cause which the vast majority
>of the
>peoples of this diverse universe we inhabit identify themselves with
>as
>legitimate and just, and worth our full support. One need not live
>under the
>Israeli seige to understand the plight and predicament of
>palestinians; you
>can be residing as far afield as sedate and tranquil rural England
>to under
>the plight of the Palestinians. All one needs is to be a human being
>with a
>conscience: an affirmation of common humanity with your fellow man
>and a
>leap of imagination that grants you the powers to imagine oneself at
>the
>receiving of the abuse that the Palestinians are constantly are
>subjected to
>in their own land. To make a good example, take the heinous
>incidents of
>April 2000 in the Gambia. Most people who were moved by that tragedy
>did so
>not because they were direct or indirect victims of those heinous
>crimes
>against the students. Or because they happen to be living inside the
>Gambia
>or are Gambians. They are simply human beings with a conscience.
>This is the
>same context for world sympathy with the Palestinian plight.
>
>Yet, that can never make suicide bombing a right thing to resort to;
>or,
>indeed, something we ought to condone simply because we realised
>that they
>are aggreived. Suicide bombing by teenage girls is a wrong and
>cannot help
>further the legitimate cause of Palestinians in the eyes of
>civilised
>peoples. Suicide bombing - regardless of the motivation behind it -
>is
>premeditated murder. It is inexcusable and reprehensible.
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
>http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the
>Gambia-L Web interface
>at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html
>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
>[log in to unmask]
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~