Bambalaye, Karambas clip is just a clip that picks up a fight and if the Gambia-L is build as a platform for such scenarios, I think then Managers should thing twice where the media is heading. As for your request, I will give you the literal meaning of wassillah and talibeh, they are all arabic words, Wassillah meaaning THE GUIDE and talibeh meaninng THE STUDENT, their roles different. Wassillah should be choosen by the talib and he should be someone who can initiate you to the right path towards achieving spiritual upliftment and talib is someone seeking knowledge of all forms. This bond between wassillah and talib is an instituition and is different from what karamba was yabbing about, Gamos is a gathering of people, coming together to celebrate the birth of the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) for whatever reasons best known to them,I see no reason why anyone should condemn that, unless you are Karamba. He remark you are better off spending your time in western education than to an arabian one, I for one I regret why I didnt give atleast 30% of education life to Arabian education. People like karamba enthused with western great minds, sing their songs and call themselves literates, but let me put this to him and everyone that there is no greater mind than that of the caliphates let alone the prophet.He is the only ILLITERATE that authored a book that stood the test for over 1400years after the death of christ, if this is not sufficent in its entirety to warrant a celebration of the beautiful life this man had and platform he set for mankind to achieve a peaceful life in this world, then I see no other reason for anyone would have the cause to celebrate anything in this world. This karamba is a very disrespectful person, he has not an iota of sense that somethings are best left on said. I know you will need more explanation for what you asked but i wuold rather make it lecture than to elaborate in this clip. Koto >From: BambaLaye <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Koto>>Re: The 'Serigne/Marabout" Concept >Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:59:11 -0500 > >Koto, > >I am not in the business of snooping into exchanges that don't involve me >but just as you were tempted to respond to Karamba's opinion piece, I could >not resist but point out the irony in your following statement: >".....if I do not put to you that you are if not biggest Idiot and Ignorant >on this earth." > >I wonder which "Dara" you learnt this from. I sure wouldn't wanna send my >kids to such a "dara". In essence, you have vindicated Karamba's >observation that some of us will do anything - sensible or not - to defend >our loyalty to these people. There are genuinely knowledgeable and humble >religious scholars who would actually advise their kin to desist from >extravagant acts or behaviours expr >essed in Karamba's piece. >You would've earned my respect if you had endeavored to explain the concept >of "WASILLAH/talibeh" to those of us who have no clue what that is instead >of the vituperations as shown above. > >For now Karamb's makes more sense to me. > >Good night. > >BambaLaye > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface >at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >[log in to unmask] > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~