humor, even bad humor helps. my wife says "so many comedians out of work...." -----Original Message----- From: Rayna Lamb [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 1:33 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: self determination oh ken thank you for that i needed a good laugh. it;s 2 am here and i'm in sooooooooo nuch pain the muscles and tendons in my left shoulder have seized up and the pain is horrible and it's such hot weather that i can't put a hot pack on it or have a hot shower with out feeling sick. taken 4 tabs of 5mg valium over 5 hours - bad i know but i'm so scared my neck is going to lock up on me, hasn't done any good. only take a val. maybe once every 2 or 3 months if that, can't see how my bod can have become used to it. won't take any more tonite. you guys, i've been good, done my physio wich i hate but i've done it, and that still hasn't help, go backto hydro tomorrow. haven't done that for a month but the pool was closed for mainanence. pain baaaaad thank you all for being here, helps to have people who understand but it HURTS BAD PAIN can only type one handed. jenn so very sorry you are in such pain too, worse than mine i bet, hope and pray that things get better SOON no one should ever have to go thru that. cp a doddle - pain is not. stop it it's not fair.... thanx for reading. i luv you guys, you stop me from going mad when these things happen. On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 12:02:49PM -0500, Barber, Kenneth L. wrote: pee wee herman knew how to handle himself in public. BAD KEN!, BAD! BAD! -----Original Message----- From: Betty B [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:50 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: self determination In a message dated 1/30/2002 10:08:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > yeah...I can see that, Betty. <g> > > I freguently left my teachers and parents in dispair. The thing about my teachers is that I now love the ones who were the most strict. Miss Stebbins will go down in my personal history. I wonder if her other students got this about her in their adult years. I hope so. She never married, and lived at the school her entire life. She completely devoted her life to her students. She was hard too. There was no corporal punishment, but she could kill you with a look. All of that saved me though. Really Kyle, can you see me out there in the world without some serious rules having been crammed down my throat from an early age? She was exactly who I needed. How's that again...that thing about raising a child in the way that he should go (she asked, rhetorically)? Piaget only defined the how of it. Not that the 'how' wouldn't have been useful knowledge, had it been applied throughout history. We might well have been spared Pee Wee Herman.