Jaiteh, I agree with you. See, what you call ‘flaming’, I do NOT regard it as such. If you check the archives you will realize that I NEVER call people morons unless they do ‘something particularly stupid’ (definition of moron in the dictionary I use). Rather than saying that someone is a ‘contemptible person’. I prefer to use ‘vermin’ which is obviously shorter and a logical choice for me considering the time constraints. I guarantee you that every single word I have used here has been used appropriately. I frankly do NOT understand where people come from with all the complaints about my choice of words. I think that rather than the choice of words, a more apt complaint would have attacked the substance of what I said. Whether I describe someone as a particularly stupid person or call him a moron, what is more important is the reason behind the characterization; NOT whether I preferred to use one word instead of three words to describe the same thing. KB >From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Dampha: I don't hate Jawara >Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:26:51 -0500 > >Kebba, >I sincerely believe that you can make your case effectively without >flaming. >Thank you. > >Malanding Jaiteh > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dampha Kebba" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:22 AM >Subject: Re: Dampha: I don't hate Jawara > > > > Gassama, it is refreshing to hear that you do NOT hate Jawara and in >your > > own words, "to say that Jawara did a lot for the country would be an > > understatement". The things some will say to be taken seriously. I do >NOT > > even think I have been this glowing with my remarks about Jawara. I >guess > > after you realized that you were NOT dealing with someone that was in >the > > Diaspora the past 20 years, you decided to change your tact from saying >that > > Jawara tried to 'subjugate' a whole nation by 'deliberately' denying >them > > education, to now saying that "he (Jawara) has done his best for the >country > > and it would be > > dishonest of [you] not to acknowledge that". Emphasis mine. > > > > See, Gassama, if you are interested in a real postmortem of the Jawara >era, > > I suggest you engage people like OJ or other PPP stalwarts that worked >in > > the system. I have told you on numerous occasions that I am NOT >interested > > in defending the indefensible aspects of the PPP record. What I set out >to > > do is set the record straight when people like you attempt to distort >the > > PPP record IN ORDER TO MAKE YAYA LOOK GOOD. I sincerely hope you get >that > > this time. That way, you will save me from dwelling on frivolous issues > > about a government that is NO MORE and will NEVER happen again. I think >most > > of you conveniently forgot my stance about PPP and their participation >in > > the Alliance. > > > > I understand that for some of you life would be easier if you can go >with > > Jassey-Conteh's LIES and argue that I oppose Yaya because of vested >interest > > I had in the Jawara regime. See, that helps you to feel that people only > > oppose Yaya because of narrow self-interest, and therefore it is >justified > > for you also to support the man because of narrow self-interests. Well, >you > > can convince yourselves about my motives for opposing Yaya. Contrary to >what > > you think, I CANNOT DICTATE how you decipher information. I only have > > control of what I write. How you receive that information is up to you. > > > > Yes, there are a lot of people that oppose Yaya based on purely >principled > > grounds. I happen to believe that anybody that orders the massacre of > > children as young as three, in cold blood, does NOT deserve to lead us. >That > > person belongs in jail. That is my beef with Yaya. Go check the >archives. > > Everything else came after that. > > > > If you want, you can still support Yaya DESPITE these atrocities. I will > > NEVER support him, especially when I know that he does NOT have anything > > extraordinary to offer us in terms of uplifting poor Gambians. Your > > government's own records have shown that Gambians have grown POORER >under > > Yaya's watch. Why on earth seemingly intelligent people will unashamedly > > support a callous leader that has rendered our people poorer, is >honestly > > beyond me. You can shout all you can about Yaya's 'developments'. What >you > > CANNOT run away from is the fact that the net effect of those >'developments' > > rendered the people POORER and they are going to suffer for generations >to > > come because of the debts this illegal government has saddled us with. > > > > So do NOT give me crap about Yaya having a vision for the country. The > > vision he has could be exhibited by any High School graduate in the >country. > > We do NOT need that 'development' and the callousness it comes with. Who > > needs a government that does NOT even have the wherewithal to ensure >that > > farmers (the bulk of the people in the society) earn a decent living >from > > their sweat and toil? Gassama, that is where we differ. I do NOT >tolerate > > mediocrity in any shape or form; let alone mediocrity accompanied by the > > callousness and the corruption of the AFPRC/APRC. > > > > You on the other hand, are prepared to IGNORE Yaya's abuses so long as >the > > mediocrity in the society continues. Even if people like Emanuel Joof >(whom > > you claimed to be friends with) is abused, you still prefer to keep >quiet > > about it and continue to support Yaya's diabolical regime. With friends >like > > you, Joof does NOT need enemies. I wonder where you were when Emmanuel >was > > being railroaded by Joseph Joof asking Police Officers to fabricate >evidence > > against the man? > > > > I hope you understand my stance better now. Right after the election an >APRC > > supporter I know called me to gloat. The first thing he told me was to >ask > > me why I opposed PPP and I am also unhappy with APRC. See, people like >me >do > > NOT just support a government because they are in power. When PPP was in > > power, I criticized them for their wrongs. Now that APRC is in power, I >will > > also criticize them for their wrongs. NOT to have PPP back, BUT to have >a > > Gambia that is better than anything we have seen before. 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