----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Pistilli . >Why resort to such run-around theories as this to try and give support >to vegetarianism and escape the reality that human beings generally >gained dominance and success by killing prey, competitors, eating meat, >and developing technology to do so. Why bother trying to fantasize about >plans to scare of predators with fire games so they could tuck into >those wild carrots and tubers in the ground? Again this seems like only >something a vegan/vegetarian would do. Your logic is flawed ! The "hypothesis" was that hominids scared the lions (with fire) to steal their meat - that they ate : carrion , carcasses, meat (sun-dried), brains, rrow - (aswell as tubers) hardly any mild vegen/vegetarian vision ! If you were put naked on the savannah - how easy do you think it would be to catch a gazelle ? , what "prey" would you be able to kill ? - a lizard - a small bird in the nest? Even the "real" predators often fail - what then about hominids ? And predators often steal from oneanother (easier than hunting) - why would hominids have been any different ? I think they would have used their most formidable weapon - their superior intelligence! doing all kind of clever tricks to get food - including "playing" with fire. Esben