Butch - Access is like Word or Excel ... knowing how to use it is a skill that will almost certainly come in handy in the long run because of its wide use. Sometimes, I think every programmer-in-training has written either a new database program or a new editor, there are so many of them out there. I have; but frankly have never used; the last release of PC-File, written primarily (if not exclusively) for Windows and can send that along if you'd like. I make absolutely no promises about its accessibility. -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC [log in to unmask]