On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Paul Sand wrote: > I still think that's not possible to get huge without any juices flowing > but again it brings my previouse question: > > How big is still Paleo. What body mass the average 6f Paleoman was carrying? There is no fixed answer to this. The amount of muscle you can carry is genetically determined, and it may not be huge. Probably isn't, in fact. The only way around that genetic ceiling is steroids, not diet. If you have been training consistently for a few years and getting adequate protein, you are probably already at that ceiling. Trying to add more mass (without steroids) is futile. By overeating you might be able to add a bit more, but you'll have to get fatter to do it. > From the efficiency point of view the less body mass you have the lower > energy intake you need so your chances to survive are higher. Exactly. And this is probably why the genetic ceiling exists in the first place. A massive body is a metabolically expensive body. While some of that mass can be regarded as a way to store energy against future shortages, there are trade-offs involved. Hugeness is not in itself adaptive. It is imperfectly correlated with strength, and strength itself is just one adaptation that would have been of value to paleo people. Todd Moody [log in to unmask]