Sanusi, I certainlt sympathize with you. Yaya Jammeh is not going any where this October. I will bet you on that. No elections is going to ouster President Jammeh. ON Chongan, Sam Sarr and Co., I recommend we discuss all human right violations. If we are discussing only after the coup, what qualifies once a terror like Chongan to play victim and condemn any other terror? lamin Ceesay. >From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP. >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:29:59 +0100 > >Mr Jallow > >I think I will have to take some part of the blame for >"inflaming" this debate. Perhaps, I should have stayed >mute when Ous Ngum began his "counter attack". In my >book, I always have respect for people who are firm >and fair in their actions. In my view, for Chongan, to >say no to a coup plot and tried to resist it speaks >volumes for me and thats why I sympathised with him to >a greater degree. As I said in my previous emails, If >Gambia had 10 of Chongan's types during the >insurrection, July 22 Takeover would have been >crushed, period. Here I saw a man exercising his >legitimate powers only to be betrayed by his immediate >boss Pa Sallah Jagne, who wasted no time in joining >President Jawara and many others for The American >Vessel. How sad this man (Chongan) had to be left in >such bizzarre situation. As mentioned before, if Ebou >Colly had kept quiet about the Coup, no one would have >had first hand information from Chongan about the >prison conditions at Mile II prison. It is therefore >unfortunate that after Ebrima Chongan has made this >sacrifice of enlightening us about their prison >conditions, someone else tries to castigate him about >his past record. In my view, thats totally unfair and >I still stand by it, since most of them wanted to hear >from Chongan. > >Ous,Joe Sambou and many others are trying to make >reference to Chongan's past record. No problem with >that so long as the debate is about Human Rights >violation under the PPP regime. In fact I am ready to >partcipate in this debate if it is on the table, but >to be honest with you what we were debating about is >how military personnel detained under Decree 2 of the >AFPRC dated July/August 1994 were harshly treated at >Mile II prison. Lets therefore take note of that >before we lose track. > >On that note, I shall not make any more contributions >as it appears, a lot has been said and I wonder >whether this helps us in the struggle to topple Yahya >Jammeh through the ballot-box. > >Come October 2001 Gambia must be free as Yahya must go > >Have a wonderful morning. > >Sanusi. > >--- Ousman Jallow Bojang <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > In a >message dated 7/11/01 2:15:11 AM Pacific > > Daylight Time, > > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > > > > > "I hope you people understand that by focusing on > > > Chongan's past record as a soldier/police officer > > only > > > makes things difficult for us. If this is the > > approach > > > then surely people like Sir Dawda K Jawara, OJ > > Jallow > > > and many others cannot speak out about Human > > Rights > > > violation in The Gambia, since we all know what > > > happened after the events of July 1981." > > > > Mr. Owens, > > I cannot any more to your above words. This is what > > we should try to avoid. > > Mr. Ngum raised some very important points against > > Chongan and to my surprise > > they were substantiated by Mr. Joe Sambou. And all > > the Mr. Ngum is trying to > > say is that for Mr. Chongan to be playing victim > > when he was a recipient of > > his own medication does not mean that he is trying > > to justify what happened > > to Mr. Chongan. > > And one thing I cannot understand is that Chongan > > was defending the "legal" > > regime but those who are defending this regime > > despite with all her faults > > are called others. > > Come on now. Let us all be real here. As brother Ous > > Ngum said, let us call > > "a damn spade what it is." > > > > Ousman Bojang. > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > > postings, go to the Gambia-L > > Web interface at: > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > You may also send subscription requests to > > [log in to unmask] > > if you have problems accessing the web interface and > > remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk >or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------