Rayna and Ken, i believe the Oxford English Dictionary has the derivation of words and some phrases. There are many different stories about where things come from. Bobby In a message dated 6/7/01 2:44:42 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: << Of course the psychiatrist may have been `pulling' mine when he told me this - wouldn't be surprised, the guy wasn't all there if you ask me!! Rayna >>