>From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Mr. H. Sallah >Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:15:09 -0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: [63.88.177.2] >Received: from [149.68.45.24] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBCEE1D770038400438DE95442D18131A4; Mon Jun 11 07:16:06 2001 >Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu (149.68.45.24) by >maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id ><[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 9:15:42 -0500 >Received: from MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU by MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU >(LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 678251 for >[log in to unmask]; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:15:41 -0500 >Received: from hotmail.com (64.4.9.242) by maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for > OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; >Mon, 11 Jun 2001 9:15:34 -0500 >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; >Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:15:09 -0700 >Received: from 63.88.177.2 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 >Jun 2001 14:15:09 GMT >From [log in to unmask] Mon Jun 11 07:16:46 2001 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 14:15:09.0661 (UTC) > FILETIME=[EC1070D0:01C0F280] >Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> >Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> > >Sanusi, > >Sorry I wasn't able to get to your question earlier, but I think you're >asking the wrong person. I did agree to Yama's postulation about the party >structure being multi-faceted, but I also asked whether we know >if there are any motives behind all of this. That I don't have an answer >to. > >We should not polish it up for the man coz he's the one that erred, NOT me. >What if there was a Jola who probably left all of their commitments for the >day to attend this meeting. Are you telling me it's ok that he walks away >without a clue of what was said? We just can't polish this one properly. >And with all the support given to the opposition (UDP especially) on this >forum by many of you, not for once have you heard from the party leader, >not >even a thank you note. And they probably got higher modem connections than >Halifa's. The UDP party's trip was nothing more than a vacation/fund >seeking >drive to me. We must learn to be fair in our judgements, judgements of >oneself and of each other. Not to drag this any further, I believe that >Halifa is a better leader than ALL the other presidential candidates. We >need a leader, one who doesn't have to be right at all times, but one >that can take blame for mishaps or at least explain their blunders. If we >are seeking for change, we must do so with a good leadership, and I simply >don't see that in the other parties. > >In the absence of any further discussions on this topic, I will >respectfully >rest my case and move on. > >Essa > > > >>From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: Mr. H. Sallah >>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:14:03 +0100 >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>Received: from [149.68.45.24] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >>MHotMailBCEDD6CF000A40042A1F95442D18108E3; Mon Jun 11 02:14:18 2001 >>Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu (149.68.45.24) by >>maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id >><[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 4:14:32 -0500 >>Received: from MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU by MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU >>(LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 669778 for >>[log in to unmask]; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:14:31 -0500 >>Received: from web14104.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.172.134) by >>maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id >><[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 4:14:28 -0500 >>Received: from [194.6.79.172] by web14104.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 >> 10:14:03 BST >>From [log in to unmask] Mon Jun 11 02:15:38 2001 >>Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> >>Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >> >>Comrade Conteh >> >>There seem to be a confusion here. It wasn't me who >>stated that Lawyer Darboe used the Mandinka language >>throughout his speech. What I actually asked for was >>what's wrong with the UDP hierarchy? I am still >>awaiting a response from either Essa Thomas and Yama >>Perhaps I will learn something new from them. >> >>Until then I hope you have a wonderful day. >> >>Sanusi >> >> >> >>--- Jassey Conteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >>Sanusi: >> > >> > Please allow me to intervene in this debabe. Did >> > you say that the UDP leader used Mandinka throughout >> > his speech? If that is the case, he had erred. >> > >> > Communication is vital in any society and should not >> > be perceive that a language used is understood by >> > everyone. I hope Mr. Darboe will take this as a >> > mistake and learn from it. >> > >> > We as Gambians must understand that tribalism has >> > no place in our society. It is also unfair to >> > characterize that the use of Mandinka was tribal in >> > nature. Please let us grow up. Our major problem >> > is to unseat the dictator. Our minor differences >> > will help retain the dictator for five more years. >> > >> > Naphiyo, >> > >> > Comrade ML Jassey-Conteh,MBA >> > Greensboro, NC/Kombo East Contituency. >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Sanusi Owens >> > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:32:20 +0100 >> > To: [log in to unmask] >> > Subject: Re: Mr. H. Sallah >> > >> > >> > > Essa and Yama >> > > >> > > What's wrong with UDP'S Hierarchy? >> > > >> > > Awaiting your answer. >> > > >> > > Sanusi >> > > >> > > >> > > --- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > Yama, >> > > > >> > > > You are quite right about the party hierarchy, >> > but >> > > > do we know what happens >> > > > if the UDP party wins? Are they going to >> > maintain >> > > > the same hierarchy? >> > > > Right now, they are nowhere, and can assume any >> > > > party "hierarchy" they want. >> > > > Do you know if there are any motives behind >> > the >> > > > party structure? You and >> > > > I can't answer such questions, only the leader >> > can. >> > > > That being the case, he >> > > > should have known better than use Mandinka >> > > > throughout his speech. This is >> > > > indeed relevant. Like I said, a good leader >> > should >> > > > be easy to talk to, open >> > > > to suggestions, and fair and impartial at all >> > times. >> > > > >> > > > Essa >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >From: Kanja Darboe <[log in to unmask]> >> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing >> > > > list >> > > > ><[log in to unmask]> >> > > > >To: [log in to unmask] >> > > > >Subject: Re: Mr. H. Sallah >> > > > >Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:36:58 -0000 >> > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 >> > > > >X-Originating-IP: [199.248.201.253] >> > > > >Received: from [149.68.45.24] by hotmail.com >> > (3.2) >> > > > with ESMTP id >> > > > >MHotMailBCEA824800A6400437A395442D180D2A15; Fri >> > Jun >> > > > 08 13:38:23 2001 >> > > > >Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu >> > (149.68.45.24) >> > > > by >> > > > >maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) >> > > > with SMTP id >> > > > ><[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 8 Jun >> > 2001 >> > > > 15:37:25 -0500 >> > > > >Received: from MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU by >> > > > MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU >> > > > >(LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with >> > spool >> > > > id 668117 for >> > > > >[log in to unmask]; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 >> > > > 15:37:23 -0500 >> > > > >Received: from hotmail.com (64.4.15.155) by >> > > > maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP >> > > > >for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id >> > > > ><[log in to unmask]>; Fri, >> > > > 8 Jun 2001 15:37:23 >> > > > >-0500 >> > > > >Received: from mail pickup service by >> > hotmail.com >> > > > with Microsoft SMTPSVC; >> > > > >Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:36:59 -0700 >> > > > >Received: from 199.248.201.253 by >> > > > lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; >> > > > >Fri, 08 Jun 2001 20:36:58 GMT >> > > > >From [log in to unmask] Fri >> > Jun >> > > > 08 13:39:13 2001 >> > > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2001 >> > 20:36:59.0084 >> > > > (UTC) >> > > > > FILETIME=[C3E7B8C0:01C0F05A] >> > > > >Message-ID: >> > > > <[log in to unmask]> >> > > > >Sender: The Gambia and related-issues >> > mailing >> > > > list >> > > > ><[log in to unmask]> >> > > > > >> > > > >Lasana, I agree with you wholeheartly... what >> > some >> > > > of these people do not >> > > > >understand or conviently refuse to acknowledge >> > is >> > > > that a large population >> > > > >of >> > > > >the Gambians in New York do not speak English >> > and >> > > > having all three speakers >> > > > >speak in one of the languages that will be >> > > > understood by the majority that >> > > > >attended the meeting was very appropraite. Mr. >> > > > Banna who reported on the >> > > > >New York Meeting reported that a fellow at the >> > > > meeting spoke in sarahule so >> > > > >I am not sure why we are spending time >> > scrutinizig >> > > > what language someone >> > > > >spoke in. We have a bigger enemy to bring down >> > > > come October, the beast >> > > > >himself.. Yahya A.J.J. with his many titles. >> > If >> > > > one wants to critize the >> > > > >UDP of been tribalist, just look at the party >> > > > hierarchy and that speaks >> > > > >volumes of the party ... we can't be pitting >> > one >> > > > opposition against the >> > > > >other because all that creates is room for >> > Yahya to >> > > > enslave us for the next >> > > > >five years. So let's get our act together and >> > get >> > > > this moron out of there >> > > > >rather than all of us been acting like >> > political >> > > > analyst and not offering >> > > > >solutions. Have a good weekend! >> > > > >Yama >> > > > > >> > > > >>From: Lasana Jorbateh <[log in to unmask]> >> > > > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues >> > mailing >> > > > list >> > > > >><[log in to unmask]> >> > > > >>To: [log in to unmask] >> > > > >>Subject: Re: Mr. H. Sallah >> > > > >>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:34:54 EDT >> > > > >> >> > > > >>ELOW WALE >> > > > >> PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK ! >> > WHO >> > > > IS A TRIBALIST ? ONE WHO >> > > > >>SPEAKS IN HIS MOTHER TONGUE? >> > > > >> THE UDP DELEGATION SPOKE >> > IN >> > > > THREE GAMBIAN LANGUAGES - >> > > > >>MANDINKA,WOLLOF AND AKU- >> > > > >> CAN YOU NAME ONE PERSON >> > WHO >> > > > CANNOT COMMUNICATE IN ANY >> > > > >>OF >> > > > >>THOSE THREE LANGUAGES AT THAT MEETING ? >> > OR DO >> > > > YOU HATE TO HEAR ANY >> > > > >>ONE >> > > > >>SPEAK IN MANDINKA ? PERHAPS YOU ARE THE >> > TRIBALIST >> > > > ITSELF. ALSO BEAR IN >> > > > >>MIND >> > > > >>THAT THE UDP LIKE IN THE 96 GENERAL ELECTIONS >> > WILL >> > > > SPONSOR CANDIDATES IN >> > > > >>ALL >> > > > >>THE CONSTITUENCIES IN THE GAMBIA ; NOT JUST A >> > FEW. >> > > > THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF >> > >>=== message truncated === >> >> >>____________________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk >>or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >>Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>You may also send subscription requests to >>[log in to unmask] >>if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write >>your >>full name and e-mail address. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------