>"Also, since eating more red meat, I have had a lot of it sticking in my >teeth-painfully." I have problems with red meat, too; it gets caught where there used to be teeth. I had four good teeth pulled as part of my exciting orthdontic adventure. I like the end result (straight teeth) but those gaps are bigger than they should be, leaving room for meal debris. God bless the makers of waxed floss. Red meat is soooo good, however, I'll gladly put up with it. But I must admit, I have to floss almost right away sometimes or it drives me crazy. On a slightly related topic, I've found that leftover roast beef is far, far tastier than leftover chicken or fish. Newbies might want to keep that in mind, especially if you haven't mastered roasting yet. It's worth the effort! Dori Zook Denver, OC _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com