Laye, I am glad you have detected Jobe's chimeric nature and deciphered his fantasies. What he sought to do in this forum, he will never succeed in. I will differ slightly with my good friend Mboge and say that Jobe might be more suited for contests like 'Price is Right' and other mindless game shows. The contestants in the 'Weakest Link' are markedly more intelligent that Jobe. Nevertheless, I would have loved to see Jobe's exit interview as he was voted out as 'The Weakest Link' and given a curt "Good-Bye". This mail is mainly for our friends in the Opposition that think that it is not worthwhile to engage Jobe. I reiterate that it is very important that we engage the likes of Jobe. That does not mean that we are abandoning other important issues the Opposition need to address. People like Ebrima are doing a superb job addressing elections issues and parts of Yaya's record. Colly is doing his thing. Sambou is doing his thing. Others are also helping to alleviate the plight of Gambians both on G_L and elsewhere. That is a very healthy thing. Let us leave it like that. It is arrogant for people to tell us that discoursing with Jobe is a waste of time and we should all duplicate Ebrima's or Colly's efforts by talking about the same things. We in the Opposition should avoid these dictatorial tendencies. Every topic is important to the person raising it. Let us discuss it with that person if we want or leave him or her alone. If we feel that we have a more important topic, no one is stopping us from bringing that topic up and discussing it with other interested subscribers. Having said that, I believe there is nothing wrong in someone tabling an issue and asking people to partake in discussing that issue. But if people do not want to discuss the issue, I feel it is wrong to criticize people for discussing some issues and leaving others. I learnt this when I just joined G_L. Going back to discoursing with Jobe, what people have to realize is that the messenger here (Jobe) is irrelevant. What is disturbing and relevant is the ideas Jobe seeks to peddle here. It is vital that we debunk these ideas and attitudes. I am more convinced in my conviction to engage Jobe after having certain discussions over the weekend with people that just came to the U.S. from Gambia. Laye, it is very sad that a lot of our brothers back home has been emasculated by the impotent (Yaya). When I spoke to this person, at times it was like talking to Jobe live and direct. Adults back home are too scared to think straight. Some of these people are so removed from the atrocities back home that they make you wonder whether they live in Gambia. This man came from Gambia just last week and I was the one to tell him about the Indemnity Decree. This man did not even know that this was in the offing. I had to painstakingly explain to him the implications of the Decree and thanks to the brilliant piece of Hamjatta on forgiveness and reconciliation, I tried to tie in how far away we are from closure on the April Massacre. All these people can see, are their jobs, the petty luxuries with their families, the coastal roads Yaya is building, the mansion in Kanilai and Yaya's obsession with 'juju'. These people mystify Yaya. They are scared of the man. In order to rationalize their fear, they search very hard for ways to justify their loyalty to the vermin. Have you noticed how hard Jobe is finding it to articulate why he supports Yaya? We all know that he is scared and supports the moron because of selfish motives. Try getting that self-evident truth out of Jobe. It is important that we unmask the bogus justifications they give us for their loyalty. That will help our people understand that Yaya does not deserve anybody's support. If we allow the Jobes of this world to continue fooling our people by touting these bogus justifications, we might as well forget about removing Yaya through the ballot box. How can we ignore people that go around saying that Yaya is the best thing that has ever happened to The Gambia? How can we ignore people that would tell any type of lie to perpetuate a child murderer? How can we ignore people that come here to absolve Yaya of culpability for the murder of our children? I submit that we cannot afford to ignore these people and their garbage. We have to endeavor to ensure that our people see through this garbage. We should not allow any intellectual rationalization for the murder and mayhem in our country. I for one do not spare these cowardly and selfish Gambians. I engaged the man I alluded to earlier on over the weekend. I unmasked his gullibility and showed him how he was trying to defend the indefensible. I challenged him to tell me why a child murderer deserves the highest honor in our country: the privilege to lead us. I explained to him how we can do lot better if Yaya was removed from the helm. I explained to him how those projects does not justify the callousness Yaya visits on our people. I pointed out how 90% of our budget came from grants and loans and how low Yaya's input was in formulating and implementing these projects. Basically, I explained to this gullible gentleman how Yaya does NOT deserve to lead us. Guess what? Like the cowards they are, they do not have any conviction. The man transformed from an avid Yaya fanatic to a devil's advocate. He said: Dampha, I am not really a Yaya supporter. I am just playing devil's advocate in order to let you know how Yaya supporters think. Does this silly explanation sound familiar? These are the words from a hypocrite. When he is unchallenged, he will sing Yaya's praises in order to safeguard that government job and that easy life he is sure of now (as opposed to the life that might come when we have a government change and mediocrity is eradicated). But when the pimp is challenged and he knows that Yaya is not watching his back, he transforms into a Yaya critic that is all for decency and the rule of law. 'I am just a devil's advocate' with a small 'D'. Matter of fact, they are The Devil's Advocate. We need to shield some of our good people from the message the Jobes of this world feeds them when the Opposition is not watching. Again, I hope other Opposition members understand where we are coming from when we engage the Jobes of this world. Attacking Yaya's record and preventing the peddling of lies to embellish that record, is as important (if not more important) than duplicating the fine job other Opposition members are doing vis-a-vis other facets of the struggle. Laye, thanks again for your contributions. KB >From: Bamba Laye Jallow <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: KB>>Re: My Reply To Kebba Jobe! >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:41:27 -0700 > >KB, > >I'm amused with the way you are having fun in untwining the twisted logic >flowing out of our clown guest "Jobe". The more junk he sends in, it is >becoming more and more obvious what his true mission is: > >- try all means necessary to portray the miscreant "DIRIMO" Yaya Jammeh to >be the all-innocent leader of a nation in the grips of an impending >implotion by parading all the good things 'he is doing' and downplay all >indications of his guilt or involvement in atrocities committed against the >people. > >- shift attention and blame unto the pawns (security forces, NAMS, aprc >supporters..etc.)used by Yaya, literally at gun-point, to further his >agenda >of gradual self enrichment and destruction of a peaceful society that is >Gambia. Not mentioning all the other agendas. > >- present himself ("Jobe")as a genuine concerned Gambian civil servant who >is interested in what is necessary to develop our country, in an attempt to >gain the trust and sympathy of the Gambia_L audience. This will allow him >to >gain a strong-hold in perpetuating his plans to the next step...take over >the forum. > >Like you've already noted, let this clown be aware that he is not dealing >with the likes of Yaya Jammeh in this forum. It will take you a lot of >effort to accomplish what he has paid you to do. You owe it to your >conscience to revisit the logic of your arguments and stop making a fool of >yourself Mr. "Jobe". > >Abdoulie A. Jallow >www.dalasigram.com >Making sending funds home more fun than hassle. >[log in to unmask] >[log in to unmask] >402-639-1105 > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Send a cool gift with your E-Card >http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------