On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:53:22 -0500, Don Wiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote (thread: Re: Wheat, was Re: How do you eat for high-energy? Definition ): >Charles Alban wrote: > >>Wheat is paleo, because hunter gatherers gather grass seed, and wheat is >>grass. Don: >No. First you can't easily gather wheat. Prior to man's selective breeding, >all of the seeds spontaneously fell off when ripe. And with their points >they would stick into the ground. How does that claim match to: "Over 60 species of grasses have been harvested for their grains in Africa. .. Several species, however, have provided food on a massive scale and have been staples for a number of tribes. Natural stands of wild grass can give very respectable yields of high-quality food. Yields of 500-800 kg/ha are not uncommon and 1 ton/ha can occasionally be obtained. ... Harlan cites Chevalier, who described an African wild-grass harvest and stated that one adult could easily gather 10 kg in a mornings effort." More text at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?A2=ind9808&L=paleodiet&P=R393 In the first time, I tended to believe such statements from Ray Audette. Now, to me it looks more as a resoning on purpose of a diabetic. Zero.point.zero grain may fight common allergies, but aktual paleo seems to be different... >Then processing is required to make the >seeds edible. They have to be ground. From my own experience I know that you can eat unground grains (e.g. spelt) when soaked (or sprouted) for a few days. Soaking can be done easily whith a little water on a leaf, peace of wood or a flat stone. >.. Some have argued that they ground the >grains with their teeth. Well, maybe, but you couldn't have consumed more >than a token amount of them. But soaked they are tender, just a little chewy. Roasting in sand at a fire is also a possible processing (like in Tibet). Not as the staple, but as a common contribution, even a main dish in the season I think we can see wild grains. I support Charles' view. Amadeus