Ken; We did a job for a Greek church(nameless) there was one woman on the board who I be friended. When the church went to stiffing us on the last and second to last payment she started yelling .it took six months and alot of yelling but we got paid... signed squeaky wheels get the Earl.. .Ps Pirate will be up Jan 9-12 for a meeting at Pan Am see any of you ...will have one half of jello box.