Gawen, I think a lot of people on the list take supplements and vitamins because our food just does not contain what it used to anymore. A few months ago there was a mail in which somebody had figures of how the amount of vitamines declined over the years. Does anyone still have this mail? It is not just romanticising (spelling? ) if people say things used to taste better. A lot has been breeded out in favor of speed and quantity. I take fishoil, MSM, selenium and a few others without which I think I wouldn't get enough. Tomatoes from the supermarket usually taste like **** to me. Organic is a lot better but still not what it could be. There is a foundation that keeps and preserves 'old' seed and varieties of foods. It might be a thought to try and find them and see if we could get seeds from older sorts and try and raise our own foods where possible. Thought occured to me just now ;-) Christy Gawen Harrison schreef: > I seems that your Paleo vegetarianism may need to be questioned if > you need to take pills to stay healthy