The on going saga continues........ Quick update: Dell Dimension XPS P200s, WIN98se I have tried moving the PCI USB to other slots with no luck. In fact, I completely removed both NIC's so that the USB could have the machine all to itself, and still nothing. I did notice that the joystick I tried was getting power (a light came on on the joystick itself), but Windows did not "see" a new device. Again, Intel's usbready.exe reports that all is well. Window's usbview sees the PCI USB card. There are no conflicts in Device Manager. By all indications the card is working and providing power to everything I plug into it, but STILL Windows will not see any of them! I have run out of ideas. Anyone have a last ditch effort? Kevin Weaver ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Curious about the people moderating your messages? Visit our staff web site: http://nospin.com/pc/staff.html