On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Philip Thrift wrote: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:05:37 +0100, Andy <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > >One can not say that ID theory makes no assumptions about the > >identity of the designer and is also scientific. If ID theory is > >scientific, > >then any designer must reside within the universe. > > As origin of life theories show (based totally on known chemical > models), there is just no need for a designer (nothing useful is > added). Ockam's Razor ? Before you or anyone else takes these theories as having settled or "shown" anything, read some of the quotations at http://id-www.ucsb.edu/fscf/library/origins/quotes/OL.html And please not that most of these are not by ID theorists. Todd Moody [log in to unmask]