>From: Christy ten Broeke <[log in to unmask]> >Eating lean meat only will keep you hungry a lot and will make it harder to >continue the diet. Eating a certain amount of fat will make you feel fuller >and >helps the intake of vitamins in the intestions. Eating only very lean and >lots >of veggies can be very very hard. I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV (pa dum dum, *chhh*) but I've been following this thread with interest. If I may, here's some skinny from Eades & Eades and a member of their staff. For quite a long period in human time, the meat they ate was much higher in fat than certain meats available today. The bigger the animal, the higher the fat content. Look at (or imagine, in this case) the mammoth. That and other animals were the primary kill and contained plenty of fat. Then, they went the way of the dodo bird. That's just a fact. Eades and Eades point out that some paleo researchers tend to forget this and promote lower than ideal fat consumption. Sorry, but they point to their close friend Loren Cordain on this. He has a body made of steel and does just fine with relatively low fat. But to help a patient lose weight, they go for high fat, moderate protein and low carbs, about 30g a day. Those familiar with the first Protein Power book remember the formulas; determine LBM (lean body mass) and eat the protein needed to support it. Eat about 30g healthy carbs a day. The rest of your required caloric intake? Sorry, it comes from fat. Ron Rosedale, MD at Eades & Eades treatment center in Boulder says this is about the only thing that works for major weight loss. The fact that fat helps you lose weight in most of the low-carb books. Some just do a better job than others explaining why. Yes, you have to watch your calories. But don't cut fat because it makes you fat; it doesn't. Drizzle some olive oil on your salmon, just don't drizzle too much. But don't eat it without some fat, either. If nothing else, it makes it taste better! Dori Zook Denver, CO